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Old 08-07-2016, 07:03 AM   #1
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Default Trainer Interaction -- Hex Maniac and Volcanion EX

I have a question regarding the interaction between Hex Maniac and Volcanion-EX's Steam Up ability--specifically, when the player who plays Hex Maniac is also looking to attack the same turn and have the damage of the attacking Pokemon boosted by Steam Up.

Hex Maniac provides as follows: "Until the end of your opponent's next turn, each Pokémon in play, in each player's hand, and in each player's discard pile has no Abilities. (This includes cards that come into play on that turn.)"

And Volcanion-Ex's Steam Up ability provides as follows: "Once during your turn (before your attack), you may discard a [Fire] Energy card from your hand. If you do, during this turn, your Basic [Fire] Pokémon's attacks do 30 more damage to your opponent's Active Pokémon (before applying Weakness and Resistance)."

Of course, until a player plays Hex Maniac, he can use the abilities of his Pokemon without the abilities being affected. A clear example of this would be Flareon-EX's Flash Fire ability: "Once during your turn (before your attack), you may move a [Fire] Energy from 1 of your Pokémon to this Pokémon." A player could invoke the Flash Fire ability, move a fire energy onto Flareaon-EX, and then play Hex Maniac. If, however, the player had played Hex Maniac before invoking the Flash Fire ability, the player would be precluded from moving the fire energy onto Flareon-EX during the same turn that he had played Hex Maniac.

Returning to the Volcanion-Ex scenario, if a player announces that he is going to use the Steam Up ability that turn and then discards a fire energy from his hand, does that mean that (a) the boost of 30 damage has been set for that turn for all of the player's Basic Fire Pokemon and (b) subsequently playing Hex Maniac during that same turn will not affect application of the Steam Up damage boost for that turn? Or does playing Hex Maniac negate application of the Steam Up damage boost because the playing of the card precedes the attack by the Active Pokemon that looks to take advantage of the Steam Up damage boost?

Sorry for the length of the post, and many thanks for your help with this question!
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:42 PM   #2
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Hex Maniac prevents the use of Abilities, not Abilities that have already taken effect.
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It doesn't remove the effect of Abilities that have already been used.
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