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Old 07-04-2012, 10:00 AM   #1
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Default My new deck. First I've built in about 4 years. Opinions?

Hey guys I was wondering if I could get some deck advice! Been a long time since I last built one and even then I had help! What I've made is a deck based on the Dragons Collide structure with cards from my old D.D. Deck. Thanks in advance!

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Blue Eyes White Dragon
Red Eyes Black Chick
Prime Material Dragon
Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Red Eyes Black Dragon
Herald of Creation
Kaibaman
Dark Armed Dragon
Lord of Dragons
D.D. Assailant
Caius the Shadow Monarch
Light Pulsar Dragon
D.D. Survivor (x2)
D.D Warrior Lady
Darkflare Dragon

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Shield Crush
Smashing Ground
Monster Gate
Lightning Vortex
A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon
Book of Moon
Enemy Controller
Inferno Fireblast
Burst Stream of Destruction
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
The Flute of Summoning Dragon
Swords of Revealing Light
Monster Reborn

Traps:

Counter Counter
Escape from the Dark Dimension
Magic Cylinder
Compulsory Evacuation Device
Sakuretsu Armor (x2)
Call Of The Haunted
Metalmorph
Bottomless Trap Hole
Spirit Barrier

Also this deck is for local tournament use and I won't be able to test it for another week unfortunatly

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Any takers?

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Old 07-04-2012, 10:15 AM   #2
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It seems very haphazard and random, try to look at other decks for s/t staples (the solemns, bom etc). The best advice I can give you is find your play (be it redmd spam or d.d.) and focus on that. Hope I helped.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:31 AM   #3
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Compounding the perceived haphazardness of this deck is that atm, all ur cards are at x1. Focus on whatever style of Dragon you like best be it Blue-Eyes nostalgia, REDMD, hieretics, or a combo of hieretics and REDMD. Just don't try to combine too many elements into one deck tho. In addition to viewing other dragon themes threads, I'd recommend getting a couple Dragons Collide structure decks to get started. Best of luck!
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:39 AM   #4
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i see u like dragons?well i recommend on using chaos dragons cause they are based on hat structure deck and that's one of the best deck out there u just need a ff and fhd that's all.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:43 AM   #5
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Thanks for the advice guys will definitely look into it!
It's not specifically that I like dragons, my previous deck was a D.D deck but some of the cards were borrowed and had to be given back at the time so a lot of it's power was nerfed hence why I'm trying to build up this one

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- Dragons Rebirth
- Spirit Barrier
- Metalmorph
- Counter Counter

+ Interdimensional Matter Transporter
+ Torrential Tribute

- D.D. Assailant
- 2 D.D. Survivors

+ Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
+ Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress
+ Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
+ Jain, Lightsworn Paladin
+ Gargonith, Lightsworn Dragon

I know that one of the problems with my deck is that I don't have enough of some monsters (REDMD, DAD etc), but this is what I have to work with until I get some more cards.

Is it any better now you guys think?

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Old 07-06-2012, 05:57 AM   #6
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magic cards... why did we change the name? spell ruler sounds gay!

uhm, have you seen a chaos dragon build? if you wana run dragons, check out chaos dragons, dragonsworn, hopeless dragons and disaster dragons.

as for direct changes id make:
run x3 ryko
keep the assialant and make combos with lightpulsar to reuse ryko.
run 3 redmd

if you want to run the blue eyes go ahead, but run 2 trade ins and white stone of legend. lightpulsar sends the legends to grave, you get blue eyes. trade in blue eyes for 2 cards. then banish lightpulsar for redmd and ss blue eyes.

drop the red eyes dragon and chick and kiabaman. they wont stay out long enough these days.

take out herald and swap in divine dragon apocalypth. he makes more plays being able to get any lv dragon.

maybe throw in a ddomcaliber knight and athunder king?
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:04 AM   #7
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Awesome thanks! Ill look into trading for a few of those cards when I'm at Local on Sunday
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:23 AM   #8
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Well my boy. I can be your guide from here on out. I'm gonna be the first one to say that your deck straight up sucks. Like, it's not even good. It was a good attempt for someone just getting back into the game though.

I reccomend you play Chaos Dragons.
I'm gonna direct you to 3 places:

1. A thread that gives the intro to Chaos Dragons for begginers, as well as a sample deck list. Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1052544

2. A Chaos Dragons thread that discusses decks that are a lot more competitive. Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1041978

Both of those can be found in my sig, I'm too lazy to hyperlink.

And the final thing is my deck. This deck has won sooooo many games. I just got second at local tourney I went 4-1 until I got beat a ******ed stall deck. My Chaos deck is the first one. It in no way shape or form is budget.
Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1060795

Any questions just post in 3rd link I gave you.
Best of luck to you friend.

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magic cards... why did we change the name? spell ruler sounds gay!

uhm, have you seen a chaos dragon build? if you wana run dragons, check out chaos dragons, dragonsworn, hopeless dragons and disaster dragons.

as for direct changes id make:
run x3 ryko
keep the assialant and make combos with lightpulsar to reuse ryko.
run 3 redmd

if you want to run the blue eyes go ahead, but run 2 trade ins and white stone of legend. lightpulsar sends the legends to grave, you get blue eyes. trade in blue eyes for 2 cards. then banish lightpulsar for redmd and ss blue eyes.

drop the red eyes dragon and chick and kiabaman. they wont stay out long enough these days.

take out herald and swap in divine dragon apocalypth. he makes more plays being able to get any lv dragon.

maybe throw in a ddomcaliber knight and athunder king?
Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about, don't give advice until you actually get good at the game; I can tell you're not. And you might want to read Lightpulsar Dragon's effect one more time.

You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your Graveyard. You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by sending 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your hand to the Graveyard. When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can target 1 Level 5 or higher DARK Dragon-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target.

Unless BEWD is a lv 5 or higher Dark Dragon, I do believe you are wrong.
And how is Lightpulsar going to re-use Ryko?

And Thunder King Rai-Oh and Doomcaliber Knight are both straight up terrible cards for Chaos Dragons.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:12 AM   #9
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You need to get 3 Dragons Collide Structure Decks to start making a top tier deck, this is the best Deck that can be made with them and adding other cards:

Monsters - 30

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning x 1
Chaos Sorcerer x 3
Dark Armed Dragon x 1
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon x 2
Lightpulsar Dragon x 3
Darkflare Dragon x 2
Eclipse Wyvern x 2
Tour Guide From the Underworld x 3
Sangan x 1
Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress x 3
Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter x 3
Card Trooper x 2
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness x 1
Effect Veiler x 3

Spell - 10

Monster Reborn x 1
Dark Hole x 1
Heavy Storm x 1
Forbidden Lance x 2
Future Fusion x 1
Charge of the Light Brigade x 1
Solar Recharge x 3

Extra - 15

Five Headed Dragon x 1
Armory Arm x 1
Ally Of Justice, Catastor x 1
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier x 1
Black Rose Dragon x 1
Stardust Dragon x 1
Wind-Up Zenmaines x 1
Leviair the Sea Dragon x 1
Number 17: Leviathan x 1
Number 20: Giga-Brilliant x 1
Number 39: Utopia
Maestroke The Symphony Djinn x1
Inzektor Exa-Beetle x 1
Photon Strike Bounzer x 1
Giga Dragon, The Thunder Charge x 1

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Old 07-07-2012, 07:31 AM   #10
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Well my boy. I can be your guide from here on out. I'm gonna be the first one to say that your deck straight up sucks. Like, it's not even good. It was a good attempt for someone just getting back into the game though.

I reccomend you play Chaos Dragons.
I'm gonna direct you to 3 places:

1. A thread that gives the intro to Chaos Dragons for begginers, as well as a sample deck list. Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1052544

2. A Chaos Dragons thread that discusses decks that are a lot more competitive. Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1041978

Both of those can be found in my sig, I'm too lazy to hyperlink.

And the final thing is my deck. This deck has won sooooo many games. I just got second at local tourney I went 4-1 until I got beat a ******ed stall deck. My Chaos deck is the first one. It in no way shape or form is budget.
Here it is: http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1060795

Any questions just post in 3rd link I gave you.
Best of luck to you friend.

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Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about, don't give advice until you actually get good at the game; I can tell you're not. And you might want to read Lightpulsar Dragon's effect one more time.

You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your Graveyard. You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by sending 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your hand to the Graveyard. When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can target 1 Level 5 or higher DARK Dragon-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target.

Unless BEWD is a lv 5 or higher Dark Dragon, I do believe you are wrong.
And how is Lightpulsar going to re-use Ryko?

And Thunder King Rai-Oh and Doomcaliber Knight are both straight up terrible cards for Chaos Dragons.
i have been playing yugioh since the legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon came out, i know how to play. i also just won my locals with blackwings so you can suck my ****. i know how to play this card game. lightpulsar can send a white stone of legend and Night Assailant from your hand to the grave to summon itself from the grave. chain link 1 get blue eyes chain link 2 get ryko back from the grave. trade in blue eyes draw 2. special red eyes darkness Metal Dragon by banishing lightpulsar. special summon blue eyes. maybe you need to go to college and take english because you cant read.
doomcaliber isnt good in dragons are you ******ed? it would make this make a hell of a lot more sense. pro winston just make top 4 in nationals maindecking 2 doomcaliber knights.
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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i have been playing yugioh since the legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon came out, i know how to play. i also just won my locals with blackwings so you can suck my ****. i know how to play this card game. lightpulsar can send a white stone of legend and Night Assailant from your hand to the grave to summon itself from the grave. chain link 1 get blue eyes chain link 2 get ryko back from the grave. trade in blue eyes draw 2. special red eyes darkness Metal Dragon by banishing lightpulsar. special summon blue eyes. maybe you need to go to college and take english because you cant read.
doomcaliber isnt good in dragons are you ******ed? it would make this make a hell of a lot more sense. pro winston just make top 4 in nationals maindecking 2 doomcaliber knights.
Lol, okay.
The Chaos Dragons builds that are consistently getting in the top 32 are not using any White Stone of Legends, Night Assailants, or Blue Eyes White Dragons.

No competitive deck anywhere is using those cards. Doomcal is good, but there are better cards than Doomcal. I'm already aware the Winston's build had two.

You're real mature telling me to suck your d***. Grow up bro. I know what I'm talking about.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:36 PM   #12
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You need to grow up. I was just posting some suggestions to his dragon build. Not everyone has to play chaos dragon sworn. Its fun to go off other ideas and make you own deck. I know what im talking about, so dont tell me i dont and dont insult me.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:46 PM   #13
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Your locals must be pretty relaxed then, to win with Blackwing- it's the Internet, we don't care. We like facts about what works and that's it. Chaos Dragons are the most simple and easy deck to use and build that has ever been conceived so don't go confusing the guy with your "originality".
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im not. i just dont understand why he attacked me. i gave some suggestions. did he say make me a dragonsworn deck? we dont have to bash on the internet. my locals are standard. chaos dragons, sams, machinas, rabbits, inzectors, not too many dark worlds. we had a glad player last week and a really good agent player. lots of dragons though.
what works with blackwings? hmm.. icarus works really well. except against dragons. but it crushes a lot, and the fact that i can revive my target with blizzard or use my target, vayu, to make a synchro helps well. otherwise knowing how to play and thinking ahead like a game of chess is what works. blackwings arent great, but theyre so fun to play. reminds me of 2009 back wheni had oppression, and trunade, and dsf teledad decks.
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im not. i just dont understand why he attacked me. i gave some suggestions. did he say make me a dragonsworn deck? we dont have to bash on the internet. my locals are standard. chaos dragons, sams, machinas, rabbits, inzectors, not too many dark worlds. we had a glad player last week and a really good agent player. lots of dragons though.
what works with blackwings? hmm.. icarus works really well. except against dragons. but it crushes a lot, and the fact that i can revive my target with blizzard or use my target, vayu, to make a synchro helps well. otherwise knowing how to play and thinking ahead like a game of chess is what works. blackwings arent great, but theyre so fun to play. reminds me of 2009 back wheni had oppression, and trunade, and dsf teledad decks.
That was a hole lot of information that nobody really gives two ****s about. Boots88 was exactly right, none of that other **** works as well as what I suggested. I'd rather play a good build and win, against using the cards that got rejected by the meta for the sake of being "original".

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Your locals must be pretty relaxed then, to win with Blackwing- it's the Internet, we don't care. We like facts about what works and that's it. Chaos Dragons are the most simple and easy deck to use and build that has ever been conceived so don't go confusing the guy with your "originality".
Lol, on another note, I've never heard an experienced player say, "magic cards... why did we change the name? spell ruler sounds gay!".
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:59 AM   #16
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someones mad, and that someone is you
if i got really mad at people over the internet to try to make myself look better, i would be the coolest kid on earth, because everyone cares about how cool you can make yourself look on the internet. thats why we all have a facebook right???
i would rather have fun playing a deck i built rather than copy someone elses deck. i dont need "originality points" but having fun playing yugioh is why iv been playing the last 10 years.
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Okay... Yeah, I'm leaving this thread now, it's a waste of my time. If you ever see me online on Dueling Network, pm me. I'd love to beat you senseless.
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