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Old 02-20-2013, 07:14 PM   #1
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Welcome to the Side Deck Thread! Your one stop shop for all your side decking thread. In case you happen to be blind, my name is Gadget Baron and I’ll be the admin for this page. First things first, we need to set some ground rules.

Rule 1: Read the OP before you post.
Rule 2: This thread is entirely contributor run. I post very few choices. If you have a suggestion, post it on this thread DO NOT PM ME.
Rule 3: I accept side deck suggestions for ALL decks. However, I do NOT make a section for a deck until I have at least five cards to use against it.
Rule 4: Decks are based of the tiers as decided on in the “March 2013 Top Tier List ~~ Let’s Make a List Together” Thread. They are not exact copies, instead based upon them. NOTE: Until such a time where YCS resume, this rule is irrelevant. I am making the tier list and you may come to me with discussion and complaints. On this forum please, do not do it via PM I will ignore it.
Rule 5: There are two sections in this thread. One for TCG legal decks and one for not yet TCG legal decks. Please post which one you are posting for. This is for all decks, not just the ones that currently OCG. It’s very common that great side deck cards exist for a deck that isn’t yet legal.
Rule 6: If you disagree with any of the choices here, please post the card in question and why you don’t like it. I will assess the argument and remove/or keep the card.
Rule 7: If a card is used in AT LEAST 5 match ups, it is eligible to be moved to general usage. HOWEVER, just because it reaches these criteria does not mean it will be added. These cards are mainly for cards that work against nearly every tier 1 or tier 2 deck.

Building a Side Deck
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1) Explore target meta - Go to locals, talk to people, watch and comment their duels, make notes.
2) Playtest main - Playtest as much as you can against as many different decks possible. After some testing you'll realize what decks are problematic to you in which aspect. Again, make notes; try to figure out which cards in your main are useless/less useful/not necessary against certain matchup.
NOTE: If you realize that some card is often labeled as "useless" or "less useful", you might wanna replace it as main deck choice.
3) Build side pool - Literally gather all the cards you have/can easily get that are good side against any decks you might encounter at target tournament.
4) Organize side pool - try to figure out pros and cons of every card you picked as possible side. Make notes; try to write down all of those pros and cons for every single card and write which decks can you hurt using that.
5) Side choices - Now look at your notes from steps 2 and 4. Using those try to find side replacement for every card labeled "useless" against certain matchup. After that, do the same for "less useful" and "not necessary" to your liking, depending on how hard certain matchup might be. Make notes about your preliminary side ideas.
6) Side skeleton - go through your notes from step 5; you'll realize that certain cards are repetitive (for example, you might realize that some card is great against WU and Rabbit). Put those on a pile. Make notes about which decks are covered.
7) Beta side - if you feel that "pile of side cards" from previous step is lacking answers for some important matchup, feel free to add from side pool to your liking. After this, you should have some side-like fat pack around 20-25 cards big.
8) Cleanup - look at your notes from steps 2, 4 and 5. If you have "sided" too many cards for certain matchup (too many sided cards->you have too many cards you want to side in while lacking space opened by siding out "useless" or "less useful"), try to move unnecessary cards out. What cards are unnecessary? While siding against certain matchup, you always have to keep in mind one thing; you're trying to sabotage your opponent targeting one aspect of his deck or you're trying to side in cards that give you edge over certain decks making you stronger. First part, sabotage, usually means you want to hit one spot using everything you've got. For example, if you're siding against Six Samurai, you want to stop big synchros from coming (Chain diss., Black horn...) or you want to make big mess once they come (Kinetic, Snowman...). Siding Chain diss., Black horn, Kinetic and Snowman together is a bit much for your main to handle, you you're going for Kinetic & Snowman or Chain & Horn (this was rough example). Following this example try to move out any spares.

Current Suggestions for the TCG
NOTE: The current tiers are my decision, once we have results they will be refined

Currently Legal Decks

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Tier 2:
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Chaos Dragons: Dimensional Fissure, Electric Virus, Macro Cosmos, Bottomless Trap Hole, Big Burn, Soul Taker, Dimensional Prison, Soul Release, Different Dimension Ground, Banisher of the Radiance, Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer, Imperial Iron Wall, Chaos Hunter, Light-Imprisoning Mirror, Karma Cut, Necrovalley, Koa'ki Meiru Doom, Koa'ki Meiru Drago, Arcana Force 0 - The Fool, Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo, Victoria, Vanity's Ruler, Archlord Kristya, Messenger of Peace, Skill Drain, Zombie World, DNA Surgery, The End of Anubis, Vanity's Fiend, Level Limit - Area B, Debunk, Crevice Into the Different Dimension, The Dark Door, Magic Cylinder, Battle Fader, Skull Meister, Abyss Dweller, Soul Release, Summon Limit, Summoning Curse, Leeching the Light, Out of the Blue, Paralyzing Chain, Lightning Vortex, Jowgen the Spiritualist
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Contributor Regulations:

Regular Contributor: Any contribution to this thread
Top Contributor: At least 10 contributions, this is my discretion. Just because you have 10 contributions does not make you an automatic top contributor
THE Top Contributor: This is purely off my own discretion. Every month, I’ll decide on a new THE Top Contributor and will recognize them here. ALSO, those whom I recognize as top contributors will be my go to guys for making decisions. If they think that a card should be removed, I’ll probably defer to their judgment.



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Old 02-20-2013, 07:17 PM   #2
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:19 PM   #3
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #4
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OMG, facepalm. It says March 2012.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #5
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I could see Gadget bleeding into the T1 spot ones HA07 is released and Tin Goldfish is legal
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I could see Gadget bleeding into the T1 spot ones HA07 is released and Tin Goldfish is legal
I think they will but I'm biased as hell.

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Cant wait for HA7!!! a lot will change
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Totally forgot I was apart of these lol
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Indeed it will. Two new top tier decks and two decks get finished.
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For Mermails you have Debunk listed twice. ;p
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Just wondering, why side Cyber Dragon against Gravekeeper's?
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Cyber beats over spy if they don't have valley and some side in Malf Stardust so siding cyber ****ed that up
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We do, called Prophecy and the sides have been added.
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Droll and Lock Bird and Thunder King Rai-Oh for anything that adds to the hand constantly, such as Prophecys.
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I consider it Tier 1 lol so I just missed it
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Droll and Lock Bird and Thunder King Rai-Oh for anything that adds to the hand constantly, such as Prophecys.
That sounds like the entire meta. I think I'll add TKRO to general and Droll to....
Mermails, Fire Fists, Gadgets, HEROs, Prophecy, Wind-Ups, and what tier 3s?

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Not tier 1 til Judgment. Until then I'm marking it as Tier 2, honestly tier 3.
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Cyber beats over spy if they don't have valley and some side in Malf Stardust so siding cyber ****ed that up
Oh okay, makes sense. Also, wouldn't Rai-Oh work well against Fire Fist and other decks that search? It may be in there and I just completely missed it.
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Fire Fists: Malevolent Catastrophe, DNA Surgery, Royal Decree, Twister, Dark Simorgh, Mystical Space Typhoon, Dust Tornado, Wild Tornado, Overworked, Night Beam, Level Limit - Area B, Messenger of Peace, Spell Shattering Arrow, Fairy Wind, Kaiser Colosseum, Forbidden Lance, Deck Lockdown, Macro Cosmos, Dimensional Fissure, Thunder King Rai-Oh, Banisher of the Radiance, Banisher of the Light, Heavy Storm, Fairy Wind, Full House, Anti-Spell Fragrance, Trap Stun

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Add D.D. Crow to Dark World.
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And add Prohibition to Dark World.
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Can we mash Fire Kings & Fire Fist together?
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Yes, that is reccomended if you want to play fire kings right now.
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Wouldn't Gozen Match/Rivalry of the Warlords also be useful against Chaos Dragons?
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