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Old 06-17-2012, 05:49 PM   #1
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Alrightey Pojo, I wanna see how many of you guys out there like and play Armored Core. I started playing from Armored Core: Nexus. I was in GameStop one day, and saw this bad boy on the shelf, and my inner nerd jumped for joy. And that thing had TWO DISCS?!? Sign me up lol. It has been history ever since. I love the extremely deep level of customization in Armored Core, and especially how that customization got even deeper for the PS3/ 360 AC games. I love all the numbers that each part and weapon gives, and balancing them out til I get an AC that fits my style. Armored Core has never been one for a defined story, but I still appreciated the bits and pieces of story that you got, and how you had to piece it all together. Also, when the PS3 games came out, I was taken away by how good the game graphics looked (At least to me lol). As for multiplayer, I never played multi on PS2, and usually my ass rocked on PS3 lol. I did get a bit better in time, but I got ****ted on by the Japanese kids that played, they were ridiculously good lol. Anywhoo, enough from me, I wanna know how you guys feel about Armored Core, for those of you who have played, or appreciate it

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No one likes Armored Core out here? I IZ SO SAD AND FOREVERZ ALONE T_T
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:10 AM   #2
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Naw, you're not forever alone. Amored Core isn't too big a franchise anyhow, let alone going to the Video Game section of Pojo to find other players.

But while I'm here, let me drop a question for any AC players who happen by here. I can't upgrade/tune any of my weapons. The progress bar in the Assembly section is just a "Repaired/Junk" sign, and there are no specs on any weapons I buy, so I can't even set the thing's specs.

Tl;Dr: Do you have to be connected to XBox Live to tune/spec out your weaponry? If you disconnect from XBox Live with tuned weapons, do they stay tuned? Thank you.
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I assume you are talking about ACV. When you buy a weapon, you select how you want to tune it, like for "Power", or "Specialized for Power", and the same two options go for "Rapid-Fire" and "Accuracy". So, the more you use the weapon in gameplay, the more it gets "tuned". Some specs about the weapon will change (ex. If you tune it for power, stuff like damage, muzzle velocity will increase, and other factors will be negatively affected (like reload time will go up, which is bad, as it increases the interval between consecutive shots that are fired). I suggest when you buy a new weapon, and select the style that you would like to tune it, you replay an easy mission over and over again, using the weapon, so you can train it up and tune it faster, to be more prepared for later missions and online play. Also, there are 2 completely accounts for your game, the offline account (when not on Live, but you still wanna play), and the online account (when your XBox is connected to live). I dont think you have to be online to tune a weapon, but then again, those will be two different accounts you will be playing (your offline and online accounts), so it is like playing 2 different game files. Anyways, hope this helps.
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Nvm, figured it out. You don't get to tune weapons in offline mode. Which is weird.
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Alrightey, thats cool. Btw, you ever played any other Armored Core games?
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I started playing Armored Core since the original Playstation. I forget the name, but I really got into it when Armored Core: Master of Arena came out. I was only 6 years old when I was playing story mode and the Arena Mode (Arena was my favorite). I beat the Arena mode, Rank 1 AC was hella hard (of course it was, I was 6).

Since Master of Arena, I've played every Armored Core game that has come out since then, but I've only beaten AC4 and AC4A in story-mode. I never finished Last Raven or any of the others, but I still got at least half-way through them all.

I'm working on Armored Core V at the moment, and I'm starting to like it a lot. I don't have any interwebz so no co-op for me >__<

I still play AC4 and For Answer (let's face it, they're awesome), and I love the deep customization that is given to the player-base. I can use many different NEXTs, but I specialize in Snipers. I especially liked the Snipers in AC For Answer because of the speed that they had. The only NEXT that I can't really use is a blader since I suck at blading, but I'm getting better. I'm a gunner at heart and will forever be that way.

In Armored core 4 I had:

Mid-weight Biped tuned for High mobility.
Motorcobra Machine Gun
Assault Rifle
30-shot Grenade Cannon
96-shot VTF missiles

In Armored Core for Answer:

Mid-weight Quad-Sniper
Dual Long Range Sniper Rifles
Long Range Sniper Cannon
Rail Cannon
25,000+ Damage Assualt Armor

In ACV I use a wide variety of NEXT to fit the mission status:
Everything is High Mobility and High Def exept the Tank I use for Assault Missions (it's only High Def), I also use it as my AC killer. Everything has CE Shoulder Missiles 2000+ damage (32 ammo) except the Sniper Tank which has the Additional Magazine

Versatile Bipedal
Dual Gatling guns (2500 Ammo)
High-Powered Battle Rifle (150 ammo)
Pulse Machine Gun (400 Ammo)

Sniper Tank
Dual Sniper Rifle (32 ammo)
Dual Sniper Rifle (42 ammo)

Special Reverse-Joint
Gatling Gun (2500 Ammo)
High-Powered Battle Rifle (150 ammo)
H.E.A.T. Howitzer
Pulse Machine gun (400 ammo)

(fastest NEXT in my arsenal)

High Def Tank
Autocannon
Thermal Cannon
Gatling Gun (2500 Ammo)
Pulse Machine gun (400 Ammo)
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Finally, a replyyyy T_T lol. When I get back to the US, I will work on a midweight dual sniper build, with some pulse machine guns on the back. However, ACV and its defense system was built in a way where its like Rock Paper Sissors... I am really starting to not like this game lol. Also, I was told 360 players are extremely better than PS3 players... I am a PS3 player lol.
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Finally, a replyyyy T_T lol. When I get back to the US, I will work on a midweight dual sniper build, with some pulse machine guns on the back. However, ACV and its defense system was built in a way where its like Rock Paper Sissors... I am really starting to not like this game lol. Also, I was told 360 players are extremely better than PS3 players... I am a PS3 player lol.
Yea, bipedals, quad-legs, and reverse-joints got a serious upgrade since they can scale the terrain. I need to get use to using faster ACs, I'm stuck in the heavy armor mode that most beginners start in. I'm starting to get a feel for the Reverse-Joints, which I never liked from the previous Armored Core games. I was amazed at how much distance they can cover by jumping up and off walls and buildings.

... and why did they have to make blading even harder in ACV? Now you have to High-boost before you hit that blade trigger... not cool. I'll take the Ungodly speed of AC4A Bladers that strains your eyes over these extra slow ACV bladers.

I also don't like the defense split of ACV either... AC4 and AC4A was much better, when you got tagged hard, you lost chunks of AP no matter what weapon you got nailed with. Energy Defense and Ballistic Defense.... simple as that.

I was a PS3 Player and I thought I was pretty decent. Took a little while to get used to the 360, but I got the hang of it now... and I guess Scan mode helps a lot, that and the scout units.
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Yea, bipedals, quad-legs, and reverse-joints got a serious upgrade since they can scale the terrain. I need to get use to using faster ACs, I'm stuck in the heavy armor mode that most beginners start in. I'm starting to get a feel for the Reverse-Joints, which I never liked from the previous Armored Core games. I was amazed at how much distance they can cover by jumping up and off walls and buildings.

... and why did they have to make blading even harder in ACV? Now you have to High-boost before you hit that blade trigger... not cool. I'll take the Ungodly speed of AC4A Bladers that strains your eyes over these extra slow ACV bladers.

I also don't like the defense split of ACV either... AC4 and AC4A was much better, when you got tagged hard, you lost chunks of AP no matter what weapon you got nailed with. Energy Defense and Ballistic Defense.... simple as that.

I was a PS3 Player and I thought I was pretty decent. Took a little while to get used to the 360, but I got the hang of it now... and I guess Scan mode helps a lot, that and the scout units.
Play some single player matches to really see how good you are, its ridiculous lol. I usually beat the scrubs with near to, or lower points than me, or I get my ass wiped by those with higher points than me. I would definitely go back to ACFA, I at least had a bit more control over the game than how it is right now lol, a scrub that dual wields weapons of your weakness can essentially beat you -_-
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Play some single player matches to really see how good you are, its ridiculous lol. I usually beat the scrubs with near to, or lower points than me, or I get my ass wiped by those with higher points than me. I would definitely go back to ACFA, I at least had a bit more control over the game than how it is right now lol, a scrub that dual wields weapons of your weakness can essentially beat you -_-
So True, I wish I could go Live, I iz so frustrated. I also find it hard to take down ACs with more points than you. I either have to find a blind spot first, and after that it usually turns into Hit-and-Run... that or I use my Sniper Tank and piece them from way out yander. Still trying to get used to Mobile Targets, though. It was so much easier to hit Mobiles in AC4 and AC4A because the turning speed and targeting wasn't as limited as it is in ACV. I was able to tag Fragile at close range in AC4A with sniper rifles, but in ACV those flying ACs with pulse guns are ducking my chizz.... it's like "What the ***** is going on!?"
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So True, I wish I could go Live, I iz so frustrated. I also find it hard to take down ACs with more points than you. I either have to find a blind spot first, and after that it usually turns into Hit-and-Run... that or I use my Sniper Tank and piece them from way out yander. Still trying to get used to Mobile Targets, though. It was so much easier to hit Mobiles in AC4 and AC4A because the turning speed and targeting wasn't as limited as it is in ACV. I was able to tag Fragile at close range in AC4A with sniper rifles, but in ACV those flying ACs with pulse guns are ducking my chizz.... it's like "What the ***** is going on!?"
One of the fundamental things wrong with this game is the way they distribute defenses to leg parts, which is what determines speed next to boosters and essentially weight. Instead of lightweight, midweight, and heavyweight legs having defense from all 3 damage types relative to their weight (ex, lightweight legs have 50 KE, CE, TE defense each, midweight has 150 CE, KE, TE defense each, heavyweight has 250 CE, KE, TE defense each), they have it in such a way where lightweight legs have the most KE, midweights have the most CE, and Heavyweights have the most TE.... which is quite dumb. You use a lightweight, you are pretty much spamming pulse guns or pulse machine guns, since that build has the lowest EN drain and the highest speed... or you are screwed. You pilot a heavyweight build.... which has low KE and CE defense relatively.... and snipers will **** you like no tomorrow. You pilot a midweight build... and you have the chance to get a decent all around defense... but that means everything ***** you. The worse thing is that there seems to be no honor left in this game. Now, new fans (which FROM SOFTWARE made this game to get) play this game strictly to win. Everyone uses the same overpowered build, strictly to win. If you lose, they send you hate messages of how much you suck, and your a scrub, etc. Most of the longtime fans stopped playing this game, and went back to ACFA. Conquest is full of teams and booster teams, to acquire territories and such. And the customization in this game?? Forget about it. Relatively few weapons are relevant on multiplayer, I already stated whats wrong with body parts, but they murdered the values of different stats in this game. ACFA, you had like 10 or more different stats to keep track up, this game has like 2. They lowered thinking in this game to a minimum, and everyone essentially uses the same build anyway. They need to make drastic changes for the next AC game that comes out...
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One of the fundamental things wrong with this game is the way they distribute defenses to leg parts, which is what determines speed next to boosters and essentially weight. Instead of lightweight, midweight, and heavyweight legs having defense from all 3 damage types relative to their weight (ex, lightweight legs have 50 KE, CE, TE defense each, midweight has 150 CE, KE, TE defense each, heavyweight has 250 CE, KE, TE defense each), they have it in such a way where lightweight legs have the most KE, midweights have the most CE, and Heavyweights have the most TE.... which is quite dumb. You use a lightweight, you are pretty much spamming pulse guns or pulse machine guns, since that build has the lowest EN drain and the highest speed... or you are screwed. You pilot a heavyweight build.... which has low KE and CE defense relatively.... and snipers will **** you like no tomorrow. You pilot a midweight build... and you have the chance to get a decent all around defense... but that means everything ***** you. The worse thing is that there seems to be no honor left in this game. Now, new fans (which FROM SOFTWARE made this game to get) play this game strictly to win. Everyone uses the same overpowered build, strictly to win. If you lose, they send you hate messages of how much you suck, and your a scrub, etc. Most of the longtime fans stopped playing this game, and went back to ACFA. Conquest is full of teams and booster teams, to acquire territories and such. And the customization in this game?? Forget about it. Relatively few weapons are relevant on multiplayer, I already stated whats wrong with body parts, but they murdered the values of different stats in this game. ACFA, you had like 10 or more different stats to keep track up, this game has like 2. They lowered thinking in this game to a minimum, and everyone essentially uses the same build anyway. They need to make drastic changes for the next AC game that comes out...
I agree hardcore. I hope the next installment is a lot better. Also, I just constructed a few new ACs for different situations. I have a 1-shot killer medium biped that uses 2 H.E.A.T. Pile Drivers and 2 Long-range Laser Blades with the additional Magazines so that the Pile Drivers have 8 Ammo each and hitting at 35,000+ Damage.

I also made a Tetrapod Special Sniper that uses a high-caliber Sniper Cannon that hits at 12,000+ with 10 shots, a Rifle that hits at 908 damage with 530 shots, a Sniper Rifle with 43 ammo that hits at 2,400+, and a 2nd Gen Sentry Gun that fires the 4 rapid-fire missiles.

They're both really fun in they're own way. The Sniper Tetrapod is my main choice for Order Mission 31. It makes it sooo easy to rack-up money. 479,000+ auv everytime.... awesome.

What are some of your designs that you've used and/or like to use?
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Well, I joined an active team, so I have been practicing a lot in free player duels. I have a medium biped, with 2 sniper rifles (cycad I think they are called.. but I heard everyone uses seidenbalms... so I will try them out) specialized for power, and on my back, i have an arachide pulse machine gun and a USG23 gatling gun, as well as Mathura CE missles, so I have long range and short range battle down. However, I am thinking to switch to a sniper FCS, even though the glance fcs I have is good, but I feel I need a bit more lockon range for my snipers, so I will experiment with stuff. As for body parts, My KE and CE defense is around 1800 each, but my TE defense is pretty low, like around 600. I am not that butthurt about losing in this game anymore lol... I have been getting better. Also, I want to start using the sniper cannon... I sniped in Call of Duty, so I guess it cant be that hard? lol
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Well, I joined an active team, so I have been practicing a lot in free player duels. I have a medium biped, with 2 sniper rifles (cycad I think they are called.. but I heard everyone uses seidenbalms... so I will try them out) specialized for power, and on my back, i have an arachide pulse machine gun and a USG23 gatling gun, as well as Mathura CE missles, so I have long range and short range battle down. However, I am thinking to switch to a sniper FCS, even though the glance fcs I have is good, but I feel I need a bit more lockon range for my snipers, so I will experiment with stuff. As for body parts, My KE and CE defense is around 1800 each, but my TE defense is pretty low, like around 600. I am not that butthurt about losing in this game anymore lol... I have been getting better. Also, I want to start using the sniper cannon... I sniped in Call of Duty, so I guess it cant be that hard? lol
The Sniper Cannon is actually pretty easy to use. If you're good, you can nail a target 2 or 3 times before they move. But I like to have a Sentry Gun paired with a Ready-Position Weapon so as to not lose out to mobile ACs and close Range Fighters. However, the Sniper Tetrapod is the only AC that I use a ready-position weapon on. I prefer using Tanks for Ready-Position Weapons that are anything except Sniper and Rail Cannons. For Some reason, the lock-on for Sniper Cannons is really weird.

I still have no idea what I'm going to use for a general Purpose AC. I don't like using the Heavy Bipedal that I currently have for muli-purpose. I was thinking of using Tetropod legs, because I really like the Hover capability that they have. As of Right now, I really like the High Mobility High Defense, Heavy Reverse-Joint that I have. Gotta be one of the most Balanced AC's I have on this game.
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The Sniper Cannon is actually pretty easy to use. If you're good, you can nail a target 2 or 3 times before they move. But I like to have a Sentry Gun paired with a Ready-Position Weapon so as to not lose out to mobile ACs and close Range Fighters. However, the Sniper Tetrapod is the only AC that I use a ready-position weapon on. I prefer using Tanks for Ready-Position Weapons that are anything except Sniper and Rail Cannons. For Some reason, the lock-on for Sniper Cannons is really weird.

I still have no idea what I'm going to use for a general Purpose AC. I don't like using the Heavy Bipedal that I currently have for muli-purpose. I was thinking of using Tetropod legs, because I really like the Hover capability that they have. As of Right now, I really like the High Mobility High Defense, Heavy Reverse-Joint that I have. Gotta be one of the most Balanced AC's I have on this game.
Heavy Reverse Joint was the most abused leg type before the patch lol. But it is a good leg type, it has very good altitude control, so you can glide for a long time, also good jump performance, and good CE defense as well. It can be used for a range of weapons, especially snipers. I think the Heavy Reverse Joint will make a very good all purpose AC, what it lacks in movement and turning, it makes up for in flight and jump abilities. I would advise using a KE defense core (the heaviest KE core, which actually isnt that heavy at all, is a very good core to use, and then the choice of arm and head parts are up to you, although CE defense head parts have the best boost to speed and FCS, and CE defense arms have some of the best aim precision.
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Heavy Reverse Joint was the most abused leg type before the patch lol. But it is a good leg type, it has very good altitude control, so you can glide for a long time, also good jump performance, and good CE defense as well. It can be used for a range of weapons, especially snipers. I think the Heavy Reverse Joint will make a very good all purpose AC, what it lacks in movement and turning, it makes up for in flight and jump abilities. I would advise using a KE defense core (the heaviest KE core, which actually isnt that heavy at all, is a very good core to use, and then the choice of arm and head parts are up to you, although CE defense head parts have the best boost to speed and FCS, and CE defense arms have some of the best aim precision.
lol, that sounds exactly like my AC. I was using Meta and I didn't even know it, too funny. The Whole wall jumping and boosting was new to me, so I really cracked down and practiced that a lot in AC Test. Reverse-Joint + many buildings and mountains = ho...ly.... *****.

Now I see why the heavy reverse joint is so abused. I recently upgraded mine after I bought all the parts and decals from the shop.

Gatling Gun (3500 ammo, 487 KE Power)
Battle Rifle (150 Ammo, 1,600+ CE Power)
Laser Rifle (100 ammo, 3,400+ TE Power)
Rifle (530 ammo, 908 KE Power)
Medium Missiles (2,000+ CE Power, forgot how much ammo)

Turns out I really like Rifles... the inner White Glint in me is still strong, lol. I play 4 Answer entirely too much :P

I think I'll keep the Heavy Reverse-Joint, but I'll also make a Tetrapod General Purpose AC as well.
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lol, that sounds exactly like my AC. I was using Meta and I didn't even know it, too funny. The Whole wall jumping and boosting was new to me, so I really cracked down and practiced that a lot in AC Test. Reverse-Joint + many buildings and mountains = ho...ly.... *****.

Now I see why the heavy reverse joint is so abused. I recently upgraded mine after I bought all the parts and decals from the shop.

Gatling Gun (3500 ammo, 487 KE Power)
Battle Rifle (150 Ammo, 1,600+ CE Power)
Laser Rifle (100 ammo, 3,400+ TE Power)
Rifle (530 ammo, 908 KE Power)
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Turns out I really like Rifles... the inner White Glint in me is still strong, lol. I play 4 Answer entirely too much :P

I think I'll keep the Heavy Reverse-Joint, but I'll also make a Tetrapod General Purpose AC as well.
Well now, the new meta is using midweight biped legs... which I have been using lol. However, I have used them before they were meta... I guess that counts for something lol. Also, something important I learned from my teammates is that you need at least 800 TE defense to guard well against pulse machine guns, which are spammed like no tomorrow by ***tard kids looking for easy wins, so I suggest running something like the Sealeye head, or something to boost your TE defense. As for rifles, use em lol, they are still good this game. However, this game is about duck, cover, shoot, and repeat, so muzzle velocity plays a huge role in this game. I need to keep practicing wall jumping and shizz... I have gotten better, but I am still not that great at it lol.
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I know what you mean. Hit-and-Run plays a huge part to this game. Even in Story Mode... because enemy ACs can still kill you if they hit you enough times with your weakness. The Order Missions that take place in the city are the best times to incorporate wall jumping into your tactics, if you ask me.

I so wish I could join a team.... when you get back home, I'm coming to your house >___>
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Lol I have been back for a week, but I need a car >___> lol. I am part of a team, SOS Brigade on the ps3, but I am a newbie on the team lol. I can ask if they can let you join though, they are awesome, and highly skilled too lol. What is your PSN? Message me it if you want to.
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Cool, thanks. I has XBox, and I has no interwebz. I guess I'm a newbie too, since I don't know how to move like some of the pros I've seen on youtube.

I've seen a lot of powerful combination of weapons. Duel Snipers with Dual Battle Rifles. Double Autocannon Tanks, and even the cheap stuff like Dual Shotgun Stunlock, Machine Pulse Tanks, Flash rockets, and what I think is called A-Slashers or something like that.

I've witnessed the terror of the Mass Blade in a Battle Royal, as well as the Multiple Pulse (shudders). I've also gotten a lot better at melee weapons thanks to me watching some team free battles on youtube where everyone had melee weapons only. Heat Piles are awesome, you can 1-shot a medium weight and 3-shot a tank... and I now have new-found respect for the UAV or whatever that thing is that deploys the overhead view.

I'm definately gonna keep practicing with Melee weapons to get as good as I possible can with them. Are Tetrapod legs any good when it comes to Team support? I'm not talking Sniper Cannons, (ready-positioning weapons + multiplayer = bad idea) but can they fill a role? Honestly, I'd rather be a heavy Tank (not really with all the beaumens sniper rifles running around) or a mid-weight biped or reverse-joint. I can work a reverse-joint much better than a biped.
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Cool, thanks. I has XBox, and I has no interwebz. I guess I'm a newbie too, since I don't know how to move like some of the pros I've seen on youtube.

I've seen a lot of powerful combination of weapons. Duel Snipers with Dual Battle Rifles. Double Autocannon Tanks, and even the cheap stuff like Dual Shotgun Stunlock, Machine Pulse Tanks, Flash rockets, and what I think is called A-Slashers or something like that.

I've witnessed the terror of the Mass Blade in a Battle Royal, as well as the Multiple Pulse (shudders). I've also gotten a lot better at melee weapons thanks to me watching some team free battles on youtube where everyone had melee weapons only. Heat Piles are awesome, you can 1-shot a medium weight and 3-shot a tank... and I now have new-found respect for the UAV or whatever that thing is that deploys the overhead view.

I'm definately gonna keep practicing with Melee weapons to get as good as I possible can with them. Are Tetrapod legs any good when it comes to Team support? I'm not talking Sniper Cannons, (ready-positioning weapons + multiplayer = bad idea) but can they fill a role? Honestly, I'd rather be a heavy Tank (not really with all the beaumens sniper rifles running around) or a mid-weight biped or reverse-joint. I can work a reverse-joint much better than a biped.
Well, for tetrapods, they are primarily used for cannon support, but I have heard about people flying around and raining hell with tetrapods, so its not out of the question. I think you would be best off using a heavy reverse joint, its not meta anymore lol. Equip dual snipers, and then 2 spam weapons for when they come in close range, like a battle rifle + pulse machine gun, so you have weapon damage diversity. If you are using sniper rifles, look into using subcomputers. Also, UAV sounds intriguing, I plan to try them out lol. There is a game mechanic you have to adapt to. My new team has been training me, and they said that instead of quickboosting around like hell (which is what I used customize my AC for, since I have that ACFA mentality to this game), stay towards walls, and jump around. Use the high en output ho vital generator, and the burya high power booster to do this task, and you will fly around the map like nothing. This works especially well since you might be using heavy reverse joint, and have good altitude control. An EN Recovery of 4000 and higher is acceptable. Since TE defense will probably be low for you, I recommend using the TE Defense Head Sealeye, it also has good stability computation so you can keep your speed.
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Well, for tetrapods, they are primarily used for cannon support, but I have heard about people flying around and raining hell with tetrapods, so its not out of the question. I think you would be best off using a heavy reverse joint, its not meta anymore lol. Equip dual snipers, and then 2 spam weapons for when they come in close range, like a battle rifle + pulse machine gun, so you have weapon damage diversity. If you are using sniper rifles, look into using subcomputers. Also, UAV sounds intriguing, I plan to try them out lol. There is a game mechanic you have to adapt to. My new team has been training me, and they said that instead of quickboosting around like hell (which is what I used customize my AC for, since I have that ACFA mentality to this game), stay towards walls, and jump around. Use the high en output ho vital generator, and the burya high power booster to do this task, and you will fly around the map like nothing. This works especially well since you might be using heavy reverse joint, and have good altitude control. An EN Recovery of 4000 and higher is acceptable. Since TE defense will probably be low for you, I recommend using the TE Defense Head Sealeye, it also has good stability computation so you can keep your speed.
Yea. in all honesty, it would make the most sense to Rain down death from above, than for cannon support. Glad to hear about the heavy reverse-joint. I feel like it's my best build for general missions. I'm a sniper at heart, and I enjoy pairing it with a spam weapon like a Rifle or battle rifle... so I'll definately keep that in mind.

I'm intrigued about the subcomputers. I know what they do, but I'm confused as to how they help sniping... and as far as I know, UAV is only really decent when you have a LOT of cover.

I had that mentality at first, too, but I broke out of that when I kept running out of energy in crucial situations. I enjoy raining down death from above, that's my usual default battle strategy. Thanks for the booster and build tips, I'll be sure to put them to use.

You gotta let me know when your team starts making Youtube vids. I'd definately check them out. I'm been watching this dude and his team GodlyPerfection on youtube, and they're pretty good.
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Yea. in all honesty, it would make the most sense to Rain down death from above, than for cannon support. Glad to hear about the heavy reverse-joint. I feel like it's my best build for general missions. I'm a sniper at heart, and I enjoy pairing it with a spam weapon like a Rifle or battle rifle... so I'll definately keep that in mind.

I'm intrigued about the subcomputers. I know what they do, but I'm confused as to how they help sniping... and as far as I know, UAV is only really decent when you have a LOT of cover.

I had that mentality at first, too, but I broke out of that when I kept running out of energy in crucial situations. I enjoy raining down death from above, that's my usual default battle strategy. Thanks for the booster and build tips, I'll be sure to put them to use.

You gotta let me know when your team starts making Youtube vids. I'd definately check them out. I'm been watching this dude and his team GodlyPerfection on youtube, and they're pretty good.
Ya I know about TehGodlyPerfection, I think his GT is AZIAN_FTW or something like that. Anyway, I hear conquest on 360 is pretty bad lol, lots of boosters, ppl not accepting challenges to fight for territory, etc. I have been practicing a lot on ACV, but I went back to ACFA for a good while today... been thinking of ways to make my main build better, since it is an all around build equiped with a sniper rifle, blade, grenade launcher, and missles... I have been having FCS problems for a while, which one to pick, because then I would have to tune to that FCS's weaknesses (whether it be lockon speed, missle lockon speed, or radar refresh rate)... and I ended up using a lot of tuning points toward this. So, I decided to use the INBLUE FCS, and equip AS missiles, and I tuned the FCS to 1000 lockon speed. I gotta tell you, in short to mid range combat, AS missiles are boss. You just keep spamming them, you dont even gotta aim, and it drives players crazy lol, and then I can spam them with grenades or sniper rifle, and then finish with the blade after all my ammo is done. Had some good success with it online, beat a few players. Also, the 240 blade lockon range is also very good for me lol, and this AC QB's like a boss. I just need to work on my skills some more.
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Ya I know about TehGodlyPerfection, I think his GT is AZIAN_FTW or something like that. Anyway, I hear conquest on 360 is pretty bad lol, lots of boosters, ppl not accepting challenges to fight for territory, etc. I have been practicing a lot on ACV, but I went back to ACFA for a good while today... been thinking of ways to make my main build better, since it is an all around build equiped with a sniper rifle, blade, grenade launcher, and missles... I have been having FCS problems for a while, which one to pick, because then I would have to tune to that FCS's weaknesses (whether it be lockon speed, missle lockon speed, or radar refresh rate)... and I ended up using a lot of tuning points toward this. So, I decided to use the INBLUE FCS, and equip AS missiles, and I tuned the FCS to 1000 lockon speed. I gotta tell you, in short to mid range combat, AS missiles are boss. You just keep spamming them, you dont even gotta aim, and it drives players crazy lol, and then I can spam them with grenades or sniper rifle, and then finish with the blade after all my ammo is done. Had some good success with it online, beat a few players. Also, the 240 blade lockon range is also very good for me lol, and this AC QB's like a boss. I just need to work on my skills some more.
Lol, I know what you mean. No matter how hard I try to stay on ACV, I keep going back to AC4 and AC4A. You have a very wide range of attacks. I can't do that, it's either gun from mid-range or go long. I can't stand being up close, unless I'm against an AC that's slower. Do you use the Moonlight, or the Dragonslayer Blade? Obvious pick is Moonlight, but some players prefer the Dragonslayer.
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Lol, I know what you mean. No matter how hard I try to stay on ACV, I keep going back to AC4 and AC4A. You have a very wide range of attacks. I can't do that, it's either gun from mid-range or go long. I can't stand being up close, unless I'm against an AC that's slower. Do you use the Moonlight, or the Dragonslayer Blade? Obvious pick is Moonlight, but some players prefer the Dragonslayer.
I use neither lol. I used to use the ELTINAN, that really EN efficient one with like 14000 attack power, but I found online, that I rarely ever ended up hitting anyone. So I switched to that laser blade that has 20 length, and so far, I am getting quite a bit more hits online than I was getting before lol, even against lightweights. Also, this laser blade weights about 300 less than the ELTINAN, so I am even faster... although I lose out on about 800 EN recovery using this blade compared to the ELTINAN :/... but I suppose part balance is part balance, you cant have it all. MOONLIGHT can only really be used with a dedicated blader build, but even so, it is still quite heavy, EN consuming, and also the interval between blade strikes is quite high. So in terms of my Main AC, I have freed up about 600 weight, and also a bunch of tuning points, and I used to max out the QB of my main and back booster, but I found out the back booster QB only works when you are backpedaling, and I though it also helped when you are QB'ing forward (like when blading). So I switched my booster setup from a Virtue/Aaliyah/Latona, to a Virtue/Latona/Judith.... and I shave off a lot of weight, and horizontal booster en consumption this way. So, my build is now a lot more efficient. I am loving having 1000 lockon speed lol, helps with blading and rifle a lot. I just wish the *** players I usually play online were a bit slower and stayed to the ground a bit more so I can grenade spam them lol. They fly around quite a bit with their LAHIRE frame lightweight builds, it gets soo annoying lol. With the nature of my FCS, my AC is a mid to short range build, as my max lockon distance with this FCS is 650 meters, but I guess I can still play like a "long range" because I have a sniper rifle. Its just that the LATONA arms I have may more be able to support the recoil and weight of the sniper, so I have to give a bit of tuning to my arms maneuverability and firing stability. Also, only 6 more missions (out of normal and hard mode) to S rank before I get the SS rank and unlock 9 Balls emblem!!
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