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Old 07-14-2012, 11:44 AM   #576
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Perhaps the same could be said about Gishki
Gishkis actually can be T1.5 say thanks to the second Master of Loops after Brionac: M7

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You guys need to play some good players playing good decks then flaunt your ego's around...
You mean me? I just wanted to ask because I haven't played Vylons a while so wtf..
I've played the Chaos Vylons while they were T1.5:

1x Black Luster Solider - EotB
1x Chaos Sorcerer
1x Dark Armed Dragon
3x Effect Veiler
1x Gorz Envoy of Darkness
1x Honest
1x Sangan
2x Summoner Monk
1x TK Raiou
3x Tour Whore
2x Tragoedia
3x Vylon Prism

1x Allure
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
3x Hidden Armory
2x Instant Fusion
1x Mind Control
1x Monster Reborn
3x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Pot of Avarice
3x Vylon Segment
3x Vylon Material

1x LV5 Dark Fusion
2x LV4 Dark Fusion
2x Scrap Dragon
2x Stardust Dragon
1x Vylon Alpha
2x Vylon Epsilon
1x Leviair
1x Leviathan
1x Disigma
2x Zenmaines

Obviously a Epsilon Control build.

btw: atm i'm playing worms which are t1.5
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #577
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:07 PM   #578
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:20 PM   #579
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What's with all this tier garbage? Chaos Vylons tier 1.5? Wonderful, but wtf is tier 1.5. With how tiers are made, it's either tier 1 or tier 2.
Anyway, why does a deck need to be tier 1 to be enjoyed?(maybe people call them tier 1.5 so the deck 'feels' like top tier in their mind?)
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:35 PM   #580
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Omfg whats wrong with you? Did I said somewhere it needs to be T1 to be enjoyed? WTF? And I said Chaos Vylons WERE T1.5 before Inzektors and all that herp derp stuff came out.

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(maybe people call them tier 1.5 so the deck 'feels' like top tier in their mind?)
T2 begins with fun-decks. T1.5 is like the border between fun decks and competitive decks. Semi-competetive decks.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #581
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There is no such thing as T1.5. Calling people noobs whilst displaying inadequate knowledge of the game makes you look rather silly indeed.

Tier 1: Decks that have been proven as the best through official konami tournaments.

Tier 2: Decks that have potential to become tier 1 or with a skilled pilot can beat tier 1 decks. This category often encompasses a large number of decks.

Tier 3: Decks which are "missing something" or decks that are made redundant in the competitive scene due to format changes.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #582
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I find it dumb that people think any non tier1 deck is automatically a fun deck

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Current build, I find 2 tethras to be useful since I can go Based God without fearing of drawing Sphere
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #583
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Funny how I criticized the idea of Tier 1.5(which makes no sense when you think about it) and got attacked.
My point was, that Tier 1.5 is stupid. It's either Tier 1 or Tier 2...and no, Tier 2 and lower doesn't mean 'fun-only' deck.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:38 PM   #584
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My point was, that Tier 1.5 is stupid. It's either Tier 1 or Tier 2...and no, Tier 2 and lower doesn't mean 'fun-only' deck.
T1.5 is not stupid. It does exist atleast for me and most of the other persons I'm seeing at tournaments, because all of them are calling my Worm Deck T1.5. T1.5 is the border between competitive and fun decks.. And Vylon in it's current form is a fun deck although it could win against meta decks with much luck (not counting those noobs who can't even autopilot).

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Tier 2: Decks that have potential to become tier 1 or with a skilled pilot can beat tier 1 decks. This category often encompasses a large number of decks.
Because of the last sentence people are using T1.5 and T2 as different types. T1.5 as the semi competitives and T2 as the fun decks.

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I never said any non T1 Deck is a fun deck. And I also never said a fun deck couldn't beat a T1 Deck (there are many many idiots who can't even autopilot). But in its current state I would say Vylons are a fun deck. But I admit the last thing I heard of Vylons was the news that the Kay'est Combo works but is much too inconsistent. There the most stable Deck was the one I posted.

So if you can prove me something else: I'm always open for better Vylons lol. And with this I don't only mean beating T1 Decks but also beating T1.5 Decks like Worms or TGs or GK's or T2 Decks like Glads.


btw: Why are you all using Tesseract?
And Nova Summoner and Shining Angel don't they get ****ed up by Inzektors?..
And with all those fairies what about Cards from the Sky? You could add Hapt or Vanguard.

And Pot of Duality seems pretty good too as you won't have all cards first turn.

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Old 07-14-2012, 01:41 PM   #586
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Then tell me what was wrong with my post.
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It blows my mind how much you contradicted yourself in that post.
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Im starting to understand why everyone on dgz hates pojo. I want to come back to Vylons and understand them again and instead of doing what a community is intented to do u **** up on the t1.5 stuff. very necessary
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Im starting to understand why everyone on dgz hates pojo. I want to come back to Vylons and understand them again and instead of doing what a community is intented to do u **** up on the t1.5 stuff. very necessary
Ironic,since your the one who started spazzing out because I said Tier 1.5 is stupid.
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This is the Vylon thread not the "Is tier 1.5 real?" thread lol
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Vylon Thread is becoming more and more fun, just keep away from ero stuff and you'll be cool
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I just desided to duel with vylons cause i was bored, and summoned Alpha, Epsilon, and Sigma in the same duel, with all three on the field at the same time. and my opponent went "noob you cant even summon Omega" and left. WTF! -.-
next duel i busted out Omega and the opponent went "noob all you use is Omega, you dont even care about the GOOD vylons" and left. seriously annoyed at DN....but also happy that my deck did ok xD
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I just desided to duel with vylons cause i was bored, and summoned Alpha, Epsilon, and Sigma in the same duel, with all three on the field at the same time. and my opponent went "noob you cant even summon Omega" and left. WTF! -.-
next duel i busted out Omega and the opponent went "noob all you use is Omega, you dont even care about the GOOD vylons" and left. seriously annoyed at DN....but also happy that my deck did ok xD
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, DN, so much going.

also Congrats on the Sigma, alpha and Epsilon
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I just desided to duel with vylons cause i was bored, and summoned Alpha, Epsilon, and Sigma in the same duel, with all three on the field at the same time. and my opponent went "noob you cant even summon Omega" and left. WTF! -.-
next duel i busted out Omega and the opponent went "noob all you use is Omega, you dont even care about the GOOD vylons" and left. seriously annoyed at DN....but also happy that my deck did ok xD
Vylons seem to be causing a lot of ass pain.
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Still you guys could answer me my questions:
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And Nova Summoner and Shining Angel don't they get ****ed up by Inzektors?..
And with all those fairies what about Cards from the Sky? You could add Hapt or Vanguard.
What about Trident Warrior and Thrasher instead of Nova and Angel? Thrasher can even kill a Rai-Oh..
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Tesseract acts as a second Tetrah, as far as I know, being machine also gives it an edge over some Vylon nontuners.
Many decks get screwed over by inzekts, the deck can't be perfect.
Cards from the Sky suffer the same as Duality, they give you some setup power but they slow you down. and Cards can really cripple you if you run out of fairies
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Tesseract acts as a second Tetrah, as far as I know, being machine also gives it an edge over some Vylon nontuners.
Why would you use Tesseract instead of Tetrah. In the end you will have Tetrah in grave or am I missing something?

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Well my point was that no one throws out Omega first turn. So yeah.. but your right actually
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Still you guys could answer me my questions:


What about Trident Warrior and Thrasher instead of Nova and Angel? Thrasher can even kill a Rai-Oh..
The problem is that Vylons have no way to search for Vylons :L
Angel and Nova can both set-up plays for next turn.
Yea, Inzektors pwn them, but they pwn a lot of stuff. Just side 3x Mirror, 2x Consecrated Light, and be done with it :P


Fasa, I can throw out 4 Omegas(1 Constellar Omega, obviously) in my first turn. It requires a good hand(Tesseract/Pentachloro, Element, Vylon Equip, Kay'Est), but it's possible. It's actually stupid easy to summon Omega and any Rank4 on your first turn.
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Tetrah is obviously =/= Tesseract, both are used to make Omega AND protect it from generic destruction
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The problem is that Vylons have no way to search for Vylons :L
Well you could play Stella and then go into Sigma and search for the last part.
Or use TGU to search Sangan to search Cube.

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Tetrah is obviously =/= Tesseract, both are used to make Omega AND protect it from generic destruction
When both are used for the same whats the difference then?..
I mean the builds I saw didnt even play Prism and you cant make Omega with a LV4 and no Prism..
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