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06-23-2012, 07:43 PM
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XxDustxFlarexX
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September 2012 Banlist predictions
Banned
Wind-up Hunter - Without it the loop is gone and wind-ups become a somewhat fast paced Xyz summoning deck. I hit this instead of zenmaity because unlike this card you can play zenmaity in regular wind-ups and it is helpful. Banning or limiting zenmaity would hurt an otherwise fun and fair deck archtype. Also, we all know Trollnami hates loops.
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning - Way to overpowered. Ive top-decked this many times w/o a hand or field and won the duel. Chaos decks already have 3 chaos sorcs, 3 lightpulsar, and 3 darkflare. It wouldnt destroy the deck. Its a great beatstick with a overpowered effect. It doesnt need to be at 1. It wouldnt change the meta, but would take out the ability to to topdeck a win.
Gateway of the Six - Six samurai are good. They got boosted, but this card is unbalanced with an extremely easy, fast and good effect the deck is overpowered. You can plus on it all day, and by unlimiting smoke signal and banning this, it doesnt destroy six sams but makes them more balanced.
Limited
Tsukuyomi - It may be a reusable Book of Moon but with cards like Mind Crush it becomes more balanced. It also no longer is abusable with Super-Nimble Mega Hamster as dandyturbo is dead. The card also can get solemned. In my opinion its just like grand-mole. Its easily splashable, returns to your hand, and gets under bottomless, but unlike grand-mole it can't be special summoned. It may be a reusable book, but grand-mole is a reusable compulse.
Inzektor Hornet - Makes Inzektors a deck that can Xyz summon Rank 5s and occasionaly pop a few cards, but with cards like D.D. Crow you force your opponent into leviair and makes your opponent unable to +4 every turn, and instead Xyz summon, while sometimes being able to pop cards.
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon - This card alone being limited helps fix chaos dragons. It stops your opponent to plus every turn with an amazing beatstick. It stops swarm, but doesnt kill chaos dragons to unplayable, but instead stops them from +2 every turn and having 2 2800 atk beaters.
Hieratic Dragon King of Atum - Stops hieratics, dragunity loop, and other things. Its easily summoned and is too good to be unlimited.
Snoww, unlight of Dark World - keeps dark worlds playable while stopping them from having amazing sarch power every turn. Thats all their is to it.
Sem-Limited
Rescue Rabbit - Hits dino rabbit without hitting evols at the same time and tour guide a balanced staple that at 2 wouldnt chabge anything and at 1 would b unplayable.
Lightpulsar dragon - yes, i know your gonna say it won't change anythng but a good amount of people run it a 3. It stops abuse of chaos monsters and with this BLS and REDMD chaos dragons are competitive but beatable.
Debris Dragon - Synchros are dead and this wont make them popular it will just make turbo decks a little more viable. Nothing else to say really.
Gladiator Beasts Bestiari - GBs are nearly unplayable, this could boost them enough to be close to competitive. Other than that,thats the only reason. Oh and its practically a lyla, so with all the s/t removal currently it can go to 2. I dont think it would change too much.
Unlimited
Shien's Smoke Signal - gives reasoning to banning Gateway.
Marshmallon - Spirit Reaper is at 3 so this should be at 3 soon.
Last edited by pokefielder : 06-23-2012 at 07:49 PM.
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06-23-2012, 07:47 PM
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Pojo Veteran
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Lightpulsar limited? HAH.
Do not be misled-that was not the peak of my skepticism.
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Originally Posted by zeebzob
go get OTKd by OCG hieratics on their first turn and then look at me in the eyes and tell me your gaping anus isnt in pain from that massive hieratic DILLDO, you smelly KUNT!! LIE TO ME!!!!
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Last edited by solomendonca : 06-23-2012 at 07:49 PM.
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06-23-2012, 07:47 PM
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XxDustxFlarexX
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Semi-limited not limited.
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06-23-2012, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pokefielder
Semi-limited not limited.
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Woah, that completely changes things.
Additional Comment:
It actually doesn't. REDMD's hit will suffice.
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Originally Posted by zeebzob
go get OTKd by OCG hieratics on their first turn and then look at me in the eyes and tell me your gaping anus isnt in pain from that massive hieratic DILLDO, you smelly KUNT!! LIE TO ME!!!!
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Last edited by solomendonca : 06-23-2012 at 07:50 PM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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06-23-2012, 07:51 PM
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XxDustxFlarexX
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Lol, yea ikr!? Anyway the main reason is just so you have a smaller chance of pulling off the REDMD lightpulsar soft lock
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06-23-2012, 07:59 PM
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The Agent of Fluff
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I think you're operating under the assumption that Konami WANTS lower-tier decks to have an easier time competing in the meta. I think Konami doesn't really give a damn about decks that aren't from recent sets that are still bringing in money. I highly doubt if Sams will get messed with at all, hell, Shi En might even go back up to two since he's being reprinted. Same as Chaos Dragons, Hieratics, Dark World...
Konami doesn't want the game to slow down. Something like 15 different decks have topped at major TCG events globally this format including **** like Malefics, Junk Doppel and Gravekeepers. There's diversity, you can't deny that. I think this is a good format. With the next structure deck and the next core set, the game is just going to get faster. That's how KDE keeps the game fresh.
I think it's possible that Dino Rabbit and Inzektors will get hit. But I very much doubt that anything will noticeably change, besides that.
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06-24-2012, 07:56 PM
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Six Samurai are not really a problem at the moment, but whatever. Take Rescue Rabbit off and Ban Leviar.
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06-25-2012, 06:47 AM
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XxDustxFlarexX
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Leviair is not going straight to 0, along with laggia, hornet and some other crap. Konami doesnt want to kill every deck that runs leviair and just completely take it off of the sonar. Laggia hurts evols. They dont need to be hurt they hardly can beat tier 2 decks. Also, with hornet: konami isnt just gonna turn a deck thats a +4 destruction into a rank 3/5 xyz summoning deck. Also, as far as i am aware konami doesnt have cards go from 3 - 0 or 0 - 3 unless its loops, FTKs or Cards like Spore and glow-up where more than one is pointless.
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06-25-2012, 07:59 AM
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Hero Stun=Ep!c
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glomp Panda
I think you're operating under the assumption that Konami WANTS lower-tier decks to have an easier time competing in the meta. I think Konami doesn't really give a damn about decks that aren't from recent sets that are still bringing in money. I highly doubt if Sams will get messed with at all, hell, Shi En might even go back up to two since he's being reprinted. Same as Chaos Dragons, Hieratics, Dark World...
Konami doesn't want the game to slow down. Something like 15 different decks have topped at major TCG events globally this format including **** like Malefics, Junk Doppel and Gravekeepers. There's diversity, you can't deny that. I think this is a good format. With the next structure deck and the next core set, the game is just going to get faster. That's how KDE keeps the game fresh.
I think it's possible that Dino Rabbit and Inzektors will get hit. But I very much doubt that anything will noticeably change, besides that.
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^^^ This pretty much sums up what I have to say.
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06-25-2012, 09:32 AM
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Abyssal Wing
Join Date: Jun 2011
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DWs don't need a hit. Snow is great for searching but unlike other ROTA-ish cards you need to combine it with a discard outlet.
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06-28-2012, 01:09 PM
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XxDustxFlarexX
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True, but konami definitely will hit some decks, as far as im aware, every banlist cards get banned, limited, and semi-limited.
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