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Old 07-15-2011, 03:30 PM   #1
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Default Xyz Material Monsters VS Dimensonal Fissure/Macro Cosmos/etc

Player A controls Number 39: Utopia and a face-up Dimensional Fissure/Macros Cosmos/Card of similar effect towards monsters or his opponent does.

Q1: Can you detach Xyz Material Monsters when said cards are active on the field for the use of an Xyz Monster's ignition effect, or when it has a continuous/trigger effect activate?
Q2: What happens to the Xyz Material Monsters when detached in the event you can use their effects while these cards are active?
Q3: Are Xyz Material Monsters effected by this cards at all because at the time they are not considered to be "Monster cards"?
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:42 PM   #2
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1. Yes
2. If Dimensional Fissure is face-up on the field the material will be sent to the graveyard since it is not treated as a monster card. If cards like Macro Cosmos is on the field it will be banished.
3.I don't understand your question.
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XYZ'd monsters are a considered a monster card, but they're not able to be used as Synchro Material. SO in answer to 3.

You could Dimensional Prison, Mirror Force, bottom less traphole, or target the actual XYZ'D (utopia, reive dragon ETC) card with any card that effects a monster, you are not able to target the overlay materiel (any of the monsters beneath the xyz'd) card.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:52 PM   #4
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Question 2 and 3 I really did not word properly....so Ill see if I can clear up any confusion....

The Question - What happens to the Xyz Material Monster(s) during these scenarios?
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Scenario 1
Player A controls Dimensional Fissure and Number 39: Utopia with 2 Xyz Material Monsters
Player B uses Dark Hole
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Scenario 2
Player A controls a Dimensional Fissure and special summons Number 39: Utopia
Player B negates its summon
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Scenario 3
Player A controls a Dimensional Fissure and uses the effect of Number 39: Utopia
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:58 PM   #5
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Did you not see:
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2. If "Dimensional Fissure" is face-up on the field the material will be sent to the graveyard since it is not treated as a monster card. If cards like "Macro Cosmos" is on the field it will be banished.
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Alright then.

Thank you all for the answers. Hopefully the entire Xyz Cards can get their rulings with them being so new.
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Right so the easiest way to say this is.

Negate Special Summon or destroy XYZ'd monster, the actual XYZ'd monster would be removed in this situation, but the overlay the 2+ cards used to summon it would go to the graveyard except under macro casmos effect.
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Ok I also.asked this question to some judges and they said that even with macro or banisher the material monsters still hit the graveyard. This is how they explain it.
1st can you Mst the monsters? No.
2nd can you Smashing Ground the monsters? No.
3rd they are only materials and when a XYZ monster let's go of one material it has to hit graveyard 1st.
So if it doesn't have a Target you can't do nothing to it but if yiu have a face up banisher or macro on the field n then use Smashing Ground on Utopia then Utopia hits the remove from play zone with the materials. At that point I was so confuse. Lmfao!!!
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Xyz Material are cards. They are affected by Banisher.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:40 AM   #10
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Ok I also.asked this question to some judges and they said that even with macro or banisher the material monsters still hit the graveyard. This is how they explain it.
1st can you Mst the monsters? No.
They're not on the field. And even if they were, they're not Spell/Trap cards.

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2nd can you Smashing Ground the monsters? No.
See above, except that they're also not Monster cards.

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3rd they are only materials and when a XYZ monster let's go of one material it has to hit graveyard 1st.
Why does it have to hit the Graveyard? They're still treated as cards, and that's what Banisher of the Radiance/Macro Cosmos care about.
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RabbitUp that was my exact argument. I think that judge doesn't know he's rulings!!!!
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