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08-16-2010, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheParanoidAndroid
Zinn is definitely not a anarchist, but I can see a definite influence of anarchist politics in his writings. He's closer to a democratic socialist, altogether.
I haven't spent too much time reading any of Goldman's works, but from what I do know about her I find fascinating. She was so ahead of her time in relation to social issues and political philosophy in general, it seems.
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Have you ever read/heard of Zinn's play on Marx and another on Emma Goldman? I remember a comic book adaption of A People's History of the US and he talks and praises E.G., which I thought was great. Btw, do/have you read Marx/Engels/Lenin as well?
Oh, and so, thus far this summer I've read:
- The Days of the French Revolution
- Malcolm X: A Graphic Biography
- A World Lit Only By Fire
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Now I'm reading A People's History of Rome again (Which I had to put down for awhile to finish the summer reading), and the Epic of Gilgamesh (Of which I'm always reminded of the FF Gilgamesh. Despite the real Gilgamesh not being such a Large Ham, though he still is.)
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Originally Posted by La Marseillaise
Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Lead, support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight with thy defenders!
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08-16-2010, 02:34 PM
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#577
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Originally Posted by Chaos Swordsman
Now I'm reading A People's History of Rome again (Which I had to put down for awhile to finish the summer reading), and the Epic of Gilgamesh (Of which I'm always reminded of the FF Gilgamesh. Despite the real Gilgamesh not being such a Large Ham, though he still is.)
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There's a character in Final Fantasy named "Gilgamesh"? For the first time ever I want to say "lolwut."
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08-16-2010, 04:14 PM
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The Hippie Vet
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Originally Posted by Chaos Swordsman
Have you ever read/heard of Zinn's play on Marx and another on Emma Goldman? I remember a comic book adaption of A People's History of the US and he talks and praises E.G., which I thought was great. Btw, do/have you read Marx/Engels/Lenin as well?
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I have heard of Zinn's plays on Marx and Goldman, but I haven't actually read them. I was planning on exploring his work when I heard he died last year, but I was caught up with school then and couldn't really find time.
I have read the Communist Manifesto and a few odd essays by Marx and Engels. As for Lenin, I read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism and am planning on looking into more of his work.
I only wish I had more time to dedicate to reading. :[
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08-16-2010, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarco the Legend
There's a character in Final Fantasy named "Gilgamesh"? For the first time ever I want to say "lolwut."
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"Enough expository banter! Now, we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! For Gilgamesh... IT IS MORPHING TIME!" ~FF5
"FOOLS! You face the mightiest swordsman in all Ivalice! You face ME! GILGAMESH! Long have I sought the blade of legend, scoured have I the furthest marches, east and west! And now my search brings me HERE! To YOU! Your weapons are forefeit to me!!!" ~FF12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spoEbPV1sxc
ParanoidAndroid: I feel ya. I want to read A People's History of the United State, but it's pretty darn huge.
On teh Marx, I've read the Manfiesto too. I want to read The State and Revolution by Lenin, and Accumlation of Capital by Rosa Luxemburg. If ever I have the time, I might try reading Trotsky's A History of the Russian Revolution, which is like 800-1000 pages long.
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Originally Posted by La Marseillaise
Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Lead, support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight with thy defenders!
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Last edited by Chaos Swordsman : 08-16-2010 at 07:46 PM.
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08-17-2010, 06:20 PM
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Market Anarchist
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Originally Posted by TheParanoidAndroid
I've done my fair share of anarchist political readings, I like to think. A little Bakunin, some Kropotkin.
Have you read any Chomsky or Zinn, Airknight's Second?
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I've read a few works by Zinn but nothing major, I'm going to read A People's History pretty soon, I have almost not interest in Chomsky because as it's already been pointed out (rightly and I commend Chaos for making this good distinction) he is NOT an anarchist.
But just like Zinn they're basically radical social democrats at best and at worst just government supporters under the guise of so called anarchism. I highly respect Zinn in some aspects and Chomsky as well of course.
I'm still reading The Ethical [Promiscuous Women] (because Pojo sucks).
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08-17-2010, 06:31 PM
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Tonight.....You...
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reading the novel of the god of war game.
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08-22-2010, 08:34 PM
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I want to read something but the library won't be open till tomorrow morning and I've been stuck in my dorm without books since Friday...I didn't bring any of my own because I diddn't want them to get messed up...I might die before tomorrow, without books....
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08-22-2010, 08:50 PM
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If anyone's in to Zombie Horror I reccomend Patient Zero by Jonathan Maberry
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GB won the first jump of the Tele Dad format. Look what happened there, Tele Dad had every card, but it was under represented.
All I'm saying is my Amazoness-Alien-Fish deck is going to take YCS Germany by storm.
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08-23-2010, 01:55 PM
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[quote=Chaos Swordsman;18925305]"Enough expository banter! Now, we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! For Gilgamesh... IT IS MORPHING TIME!" ~FF5
"FOOLS! You face the mightiest swordsman in all Ivalice! You face ME! GILGAMESH! Long have I sought the blade of legend, scoured have I the furthest marches, east and west! And now my search brings me HERE! To YOU! Your weapons are forefeit to me!!!" ~FF12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spoEbPV1sxc
Neither of those quotes makes sense, nor does the second quote in your sig.
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08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarco the Legend
Neither of those quotes makes sense, nor does the second quote in your sig.
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Well, to explain, Gilgamesh is a re-occuring boss character in FF. He's a flamboyant over-the-top boss. He appears in FFV with the quote I mentioned, and in the battle transforms. The "ladies who dress like men!" is how one of the characters is a woman who dresses up as a man (over being the only girl as a pirate, it's rather weird plotline)
The second quote, and video, is from FF12, where you fight him as a boss. He's basically trying to nab your weapons, and is again over-the-top. Both Gilgamesh and his partner Enkidu are named after The Epic of Gilgamesh story. Sorry for not explaining it well.
The second quote in my sig is from Final Fantasy X, at the climax of the game.
And now with the magic power of editing, I have a verse of La Marseillaise in my sig.
Oh, and for book discussion, I just read The Killing Joke. Dear god Alan Moore is a genius. It's frightening how obvious Batman and The Joker are just as insane, expect one is bent on destruction and the other order and law.
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Originally Posted by La Marseillaise
Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Lead, support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight with thy defenders!
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Last edited by Chaos Swordsman : 08-25-2010 at 10:15 PM.
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