Boss Deck - Any suggestions welcome.

[ZZSpecs]

This deck goes out to all you big-shot boss monsters that never see any play due to your required tributes and sacrifices. I'm here to show the world that you can really do some damage when given a chance.
Basically, the deck's purpose is to continually and consistently get out big, high-level, strong-ATK monsters with good-enough effects to do some damage. Heres the list:

Monsters - 22
The Bosses
2 The Creator
2 Destiny Hero Dasher
2 Black Tyranno
2 Chaos Sorcerer
1 Mystical Knight of Jackal
1 Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast
1 Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu
1 Sacred Phoenix of Nepthys
1 Majestic Mech – Goryu
The Helpers
3 Nimble Momonga
2 Level Eater
2 The Calculator
1 Jester Confit
1 Hand of Nepthys

Magic - 14
3 Soul Exchange
2 Precious Cards From Beyond
2 Mausoleum of the Emperor
2 Star Blast
1 Reasoning
1 Heavy Storm
1 Brain Control
1 Monster Gate
1 MST

Traps - 4
3 Level Conversion Lab
1 Call of the Haunted

I've never really seen this done before, and I've probably overlooked alot of cards. I'm sure there's more stuff out there. This deck hasn't been tested against any top-tier decks, so its effectiveness is a toss-up. Here are some cards that I've been considering:
Great Maju Garzett
Earthbound Immortals
Shooting Star Bow Ceal
Yamata Dragon
Obelisk
Trade-In
Allure

Any suggestions welcome.

[ihavenoidea]

Why do you have 4 Creators? Is the latter supposed to be "The Dark Creator"?

[Strike Noir]

Originally Posted by ZZSpecs

1 Mystical Knight of Jackal

Old school FTW. I had a flashback after seeing that.

I don't have any real fixes but did you think about Kaiser Sea Horse? I could see it working if you narrow the boss line up down to light and darks and add in a little more protection. Anything that rhymes with Bottomless Trap Hole, Mirror Force, or Torrential Tribute laughs at your squad. Run 2x MBaaS

And I was digging through my junk commons box and dusted off a playset of Zolga. You gain 2K when it's sacked. Might wanna look at it.

Shooting Star Bow Ceal

Nah that's too far back. Hell no.

[imperialkat]

Drop the Level Labs for 1 or 2 Star Blasts and 1 of 2 foolish (for your dashers). Creator incarnate can get Creator easier. I'm too lazy to check all your monsters but Trade-in becomes viable if you run at least 4 8* monsters. If you're going for the light and dark thing drop Black tyranno for Super-conducting tyranno (light, 3300 ATK, and 8* -- win, win, win).

If you want more draw power and don't mind going against the dump-and-revive tactic a little, then run Allure. Trade-in should have you covered, though.

I built a similar deck that was more Creator-based. I like your build, though.

No Beast kings?

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by ihavenoidea

Why do you have 4 Creators? Is the latter supposed to be "The Dark Creator"?

...I feel silly.

Originally Posted by Strike Noir

Old school FTW. I had a flashback after seeing that.

I don't have any real fixes but did you think about Kaiser Sea Horse? I could see it working if you narrow the boss line up down to light and darks and add in a little more protection. Anything that rhymes with Bottomless Trap Hole, Mirror Force, or Torrential Tribute laughs at your squad. Run 2x MBaaS

And I was digging through my junk commons box and dusted off a playset of Zolga. You gain 2K when it's sacked. Might wanna look at it.


Nah that's too far back. Hell no.

Haha. Old School's the only kind of school I attend. That sounded alot cooler in my head.
This deck was originally the Rise of Dragon Lords structure deck. Kaiser Sea Horse, from what I found, was just ineffective. I would rather just save my normal summon and get something better, basically.
I didn't bother trying to fit in staples, as this deck was basically just for feces and funnies, so things like MBAAS didn't find their way in. Not yet, anyways.
Zolga....that's about as old school as it can get without resorting to Dark Magician or Blue-Eyes. Once again, I would rather use a normal summon on a "boss" monster rather than a Zolga. Suggestion appreciated, though.
I did actually ifnd success at one point with Ceal and Tyrant Dragon. Lots o' fun there. But yeah, equip cards are pretty flawed without the right system to protect em.

Originally Posted by imperialkat

Drop the Level Labs for 1 or 2 Star Blasts and 1 of 2 foolish (for your dashers). Creator incarnate can get Creator easier. I'm too lazy to check all your monsters but Trade-in becomes viable if you run at least 4 8* monsters. If you're going for the light and dark thing drop Black tyranno for Super-conducting tyranno (light, 3300 ATK, and 8* -- win, win, win).

If you want more draw power and don't mind going against the dump-and-revive tactic a little, then run Allure. Trade-in should have you covered, though.

I built a similar deck that was more Creator-based. I like your build, though.

No Beast kings?

Star Blast is very interesting. I've never seen it before. I'll definitely try em out.
Creator Incarnate wouldn't be good unless I had some way to efficiently get both in my hand, and even so, the Creator is easy enough to get anyways.
I plan on throwing in some Trade-Ins once I get my hands on em.
Black Tyranno is actually really good if I'm in control. Its one of my favorite cards in the deck actually. Super Conducto Tyranno...just isn't good. There's plenty other better monsters to fit that description, like Majestic Mech Goryu or another Creator or any number of things.
If I was to go Allures, then yeah, I might go with more of a Light/Dark feel to the deck.
I'm too poor for Barbaros.
Do you have a decklist or link, perhaps?

Here's what I'm looking for (But, of course, any other suggestions are welcome):
Good/Better Boss Monsters
Easier Ways to get out the Boss Monsters
Speed
Consistency
A better kill-strat or maybe even an OTK-Style card

[Chain Smoker]

ignore this comment @____@

(hey, free bump!)

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by Chain Smoker

OTK idea!!



maybe im just drunk

OTK!!!!...Where?
Maybe I'm blind, and I'm not good at picking up on decks just by looking, but where does the OTK happen?
Machine Duplication doesn't work on the Calculator . It starts off at 600 ATK already. Pouty face.
Hey - being drunk is nothing to be ashamed of!

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by Chain Smoker

ignore this comment @____@

(hey, free bump!)

The "drunk" thing is becoming more and more plausible...

[Reapex]

So....
How does this play-test?

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by Reapex

So....
How does this play-test?

It hasn't gone against anything Tier 1, but in casual play, it works very...inconsistently, for lack of a better word. Good opening hand = massive rape. Other opening hands...I'm on the defensive early. It's not a bad deck by any means, it just really needs work.

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Bumpsters....

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Cum Bumpster.

[KOL40]

One off tribute cards like double coston, kaiser, the fire one (lol)

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by KOL40

One off tribute cards like double coston, kaiser, the fire one (lol)

I like the specification of your "the fire one"

One-off tribute cards are good. One-off Tribute monster cards aren't great. Too slow, and they just don't help if im on the defensive. I need cards that can get field presence quickly and efficiently, and using a normal summon on one of those monsters means it takes an entire turn to reach effectiveness. Thanks for the comment, still.

[KOL40]

Well 3 trade ins is a no brainer.

If you have them, work in 3 giant germ as well.

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by KOL40

Well 3 trade ins is a no brainer.

If you have them, work in 3 giant germ as well.

Yeah, I need to find some Trade-Ins. That's basically a whole new element for the deck.
3 Giant Germ and 3 Nimble Momongas? It seems like a bit much, no? Where would I make room?

[Tristriam]

Try to work in some Metal Reflect Slimes. Maybe take out the Fusilier Dragon or the Phoenix and Hand.

[kamikazi]

i ran something like this waaay back when as well, but they were all dark monsters. I remember I had a Dark Lord Hades, and I also used zombie turtles to get out the costons so I wouldnt waste the normal summon. Just for kicks, Barrel Dragon use to be my favorite just because it was so unpredictable. Props on the deck - brings back a lot of memories.

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by Tristriam

Try to work in some Metal Reflect Slimes. Maybe take out the Fusilier Dragon or the Phoenix and Hand.

Very interesting thought on the Metal Reflect Slimes. I used to try out Embodiment of Apophis, but it was useless when i wasn't tributing it. This, on the other hand...well, I like it, to say the least.
Only one thing - and this brings me to my next point - it's a trap. I just recently contemplated putting in Royal Decrees to protect the Bosses, as running into a Mirror Force with a Boss is just so disheartening. So basically, how do you think Decrees would run?
Fusilier is in just for its DARK and 8* status (once I get Trade-Ins). The Phoenix/Hand tandem is in just because I had both cards and I thought they were cool. In other words, they're disposable.

Originally Posted by kamikazi

i ran something like this waaay back when as well, but they were all dark monsters. I remember I had a Dark Lord Hades, and I also used zombie turtles to get out the costons so I wouldnt waste the normal summon. Just for kicks, Barrel Dragon use to be my favorite just because it was so unpredictable. Props on the deck - brings back a lot of memories.

If you're referencing Barrel Dragon, then you must not be kidding about this being "waaay" back. Naturally, though, over the course of time new cards have come out over time that basically rule out the need for Costons and whatnot. I assume the DARK attributes were just for Costons? Or is there more support you were using? Graveyard revival could probably have been utilized, I suppose, with Armageddon Knight and stuff.

So, if you were to post an ideal decklist, what would it look like? I'm figuring that I need to utilize cards like Trade-In, Allure, maybe even synchroing. Nothing here really considers any Synchro aspect, although Level Eaters could probably do some damage in that sense. I'm also really intruiged by Yamata Dragon; that card can really do some damage.

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Just the usual.

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Somebody say hello, at least?

[JTomoyasu]

If you like going with trap monsters than you can try using Zoma the Spirit. It might not have the shear defensive power of the Slimes but its burn effect allows for some interesting options. Also you can add in Spell Strikers for tribute fodder.

[ZZSpecs]

If I was to go with any trap monster, Reflect Slimes would probably be my main choice, and I wouldn't run any more than 1 or 2. Trap monsters are interesting, but they're kind of slow, vulnerable, and ineffective in the wake of other cards. Thanks for the comment, though. It lets me know that someone cares .

[JTomoyasu]

Originally Posted by ZZSpecs

Fusilier is in just for its DARK and 8* status (once I get Trade-Ins).

Fusilier, Black Tyranno, and Knight of Jackal are all lvl 7.

[ZZSpecs]

I knew about Jackal and Tyranno. I didn't catch Fusilier...Lame. Oh well. Regardless, I guess its in there until I get better cards or until I get Trade-Ins. This deck really isn't high-priority for me, I just wanted to see what people thought and if they had any ideas for it.

[yugiohchamp]

how are fusler and mystic knight of jackal working out for u?

[ZZSpecs]

Fusiliers good when I'm backed into a corner, as only 9 other cards in the deck are summonable without cost. Besides that, I'm just waiting until I can get a better replacement.
Mystical Knight of Jackal is really basically for kicks. Its effect does come in handy against slower decks, but besides that, its really just for annoyance purposes.
Plus, they're light and dark for chaos sorcerer. Minor side boost there.

[kamikazi]

sorry I meant to reply sooner, but yea the last format I remember playing everyone was running three sorcerers and three cyber dragons.

The Bosses
2 The Creator
2 Destiny Hero Dasher
1 Jinzo
1 Dark Ruler Hades
1 Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast
1 Barrel Dragon
1 Spirit Reaper
3 Nimble Momonga
2 Double Coston
3 Zombie Turltes


Magic - 12
1 Scapegoat
2 Allure of Darkness
2 Mausoleum of the Emperor
2 Foolish Burial
1 Reasoning
1 Heavy Storm
1 Brain Control
1 Monster Gate
1 MST
2 Enemy Controller
Book of Life

Traps - 5
3 Royal Decree
1 Mirror Force
1 Call of the Haunted

this isnt a complete list but I would do something like this for now, you're right that I dont know a lot of the new cards as I am just playing again recently. I use to use dmoc in here but hes banned now, I also do like your idea of having decrees, Jinzo is in as a fourth decree. you still have spots for monsters I don't really know whats a good dark boss, like I said this would be something I would do with my knowledge of whats out there. Hows your play testing for your version going?

[ZZSpecs]

Originally Posted by kamikazi

sorry I meant to reply sooner, but yea the last format I remember playing everyone was running three sorcerers and three cyber dragons.

The Bosses
2 The Creator
2 Destiny Hero Dasher
1 Jinzo
1 Dark Ruler Hades
1 Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast
1 Barrel Dragon
1 Spirit Reaper
3 Nimble Momonga
2 Double Coston
3 Zombie Turltes


Magic - 12
1 Scapegoat
2 Allure of Darkness
2 Mausoleum of the Emperor
2 Foolish Burial
1 Reasoning
1 Heavy Storm
1 Brain Control
1 Monster Gate
1 MST
2 Enemy Controller
Book of Life

Traps - 5
3 Royal Decree
1 Mirror Force
1 Call of the Haunted

this isnt a complete list but I would do something like this for now, you're right that I dont know a lot of the new cards as I am just playing again recently. I use to use dmoc in here but hes banned now, I also do like your idea of having decrees, Jinzo is in as a fourth decree. you still have spots for monsters I don't really know whats a good dark boss, like I said this would be something I would do with my knowledge of whats out there. Hows your play testing for your version going?

It's nice to see someone sharing my vision.
Just some comments -
I used to run Ha Des, but its really not that effective.
Barrel Dragon...random, to say the least. Haha. I do like it as a card, but let's just say I have horrible luck already. Adding more of a gamble to an already-unstable deck just doesn't agree with my luck, if you get what I'm saying.
Jinzo is nice. I always meant to try it out, I just never got around to it.
What are Zombie Turtles supposed to search for? Double Coston? I don't see that being reliable enough of a system, with all the effect destruction we see now-a-days. Being destroyed by battle doesnt occur as much as it used to, sadly. Ultimate Offering might be a better choice.
While I'm not saying that your deck is bad or won't work, I just don't see it fitting the style that I'm going for. Feel free to try it out and get back to me, I'd love to know if I'm wrong with my feelings towards Zombie Turtles / Costons. Keep me updated if you decide to go with that.