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Old 09-12-2008, 03:56 PM   #1
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Exclamation Hopeless Dragon

Hopeless Dragon

Monster: 20

3 Dark Horus
3 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
2 Dark Armed Dragon
2 Phantom of Chaos
2 The Dark Creator
2 Dark Grepher
2 Axe Dragonuit
1 Darklord Zerato
1 Gorz, the Emissary of Darkness
1 Sangan
1 Breaker the Magical Warrior

Spell: 17

3 Trade-In
3 Allure of Darkness
3 Arms Hole
2 D.D.R. - Different Dimension Reincarnation
1 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Future Fusion
1 Reinforcement of the Army
1 Monster Reborn
1 Heavy Storm
1 Giant Trunade

Trap: 3

1 Return from the Different Dimension
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Crush Card Virus
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:10 PM   #2
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the original ran masked dragon. i hope u took that into consideration. dragons's mirror may also help.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:38 PM   #3
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I wouldn't use breaker in this deck because you can't phantom of chaos him. Plus, playing arms hole means you can't normal summon for the turn. Don't forget FHD for your Future Fusion.

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Old 09-25-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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Armageddon KNight is the better choice. (Although you can run both) Armageddon Knight probably is the best target for Dark Horus if your foe plays a spell.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:30 PM   #5
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Yes, you need some type of >LV4 Dragon for a Normal Summon at least so you can SS REDMD if he's in your hand as well...

OT: Does anyone know why they named it "hopeless"?
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:51 AM   #6
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No idea on the Hopeless.
Why not try Infernal Dragon for the low level dragon the deck needs, i'm trying out a similar deck running it, and it seems to be going ok.

Dark, so Allureabe, reasonable attack, and it's effect can be worked around, especially if just using it as tribute/allure/Knight/Five Headed/REDMD fodder. About the only 'problem' is it not being searchable by Sangan.
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:31 AM   #7
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Axe Dragonute>>> Hell Dragon in all ways.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:41 AM   #8
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Yes, you need some type of >LV4 Dragon for a Normal Summon at least so you can SS REDMD if he's in your hand as well...

OT: Does anyone know why they named it "hopeless"?
Hopeless because the main strategy is to bring out all your powerful dragons @ once & even if it can be wipe out, it can be easily be restored. That's why, HOPELESS... for the opponent!
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:13 PM   #9
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Its named hopeless because english level in japan public schools is very low
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:59 PM   #10
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I think teching united we stand wouldn't hurt since it's searchable
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:14 AM   #11
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I still think using 1 judgment dragon helps. He's a lv8 so you can trade him in.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:58 AM   #12
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I like the idea of maindecking Judgement. its an origional choice.
I dont really like hte idea of arms hole if your teching tons of lower levels. its either one or the other, to be honest.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:38 PM   #13
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this is good. i rlly like this...pie is good
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:46 PM   #14
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Can REDMD be SS from the removed card pile?
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:35 AM   #15
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Can REDMD be SS from the removed card pile?
REDMD has NO summoning restrictions whatsoever.

I know, its so broken. Dump it with Weekend Knight and revive it with dark creator, with COSR and its an instant +who knows what
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:34 PM   #16
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Wouldnt 1 burial from the D.D. be extremely useful in this deck type?

I would personally
- 1 breaker
+ 1 armageddon knight
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:03 PM   #17
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No, Burial from DD is worthless here.
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:21 PM   #18
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I could be useful due the fact that you have

3 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
2 Dark Armed Dragon
2 Phantom of Chaos
2 The Dark Creator

That remove monsters from play, also it can be very good combo with the dark creator when you need those 5 darks or Darkness Metal when your out of dragons in grave or maybe just more targets for DaD?

Besides its just one.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:35 AM   #19
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No, you dont need to bring back much RFP monsters. a good Hopeless Dragon wont use it. My variant uses 2 dimension alchemist, but thats about it.
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:09 AM   #20
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here's my version, it works well for me.

3x Armageddon Knight
2x Phantom of Chaos
1x Sangan
3x Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
3x Dark Horus
2x The Dark Creator
2x Dark Armed Dragon
3x Infernal Dragon
1x Judgment Dragon

2x Foolish Burial
1x Future Fusion
1x Monster Reborn
2x Monster Reincarnation
1x Heavy Storm
3x Allure of Darkness
3x Trade-In
2x Upstart Goblin
2x D.D.R. Different Dimension Reincarnation

2x Royal Decree
1x Crush Card Virus
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:23 AM   #21
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as mentioned before, axe dragonuit > infernal dragon in every possible way
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:56 PM   #22
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The only problem with Hopeless Dragon is if you open bad you lose. "/

But, good deck besides that.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:34 PM   #23
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The only problem with Hopeless Dragon is if you open bad you lose. "/

But, good deck besides that.
So. True.
It sucks to stare at 2 Creators and 2 DADs and 1 Reincarnation on your first turn.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:28 PM   #24
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Why does the deck run Masked Dragon? I might have missed something in the previous posts but I only noticed the 2 Masked being able to search each other.
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Lancer Dragonute.

Also, REDMD fodder, Allure fodder being lancer.
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