[WildAce]

Originally Posted by A_Midnight_Ninja

Here's something new:

Mantine @ Leftovers / Wet Rock
Swift Swim Ability
Calm Nature
EVs: 252 Sp.Def | 192 HP | 64 Sp.Atk
- Rain Dance
- Surf
- Protect / Ice Beam
- Toxic

A Special wall. Wet Rock to lengthen Rain Dance, of Leftovers for recovery. Rain Dance is to boost its Speed with Swift Swim. Surf is for STAB, and more power due to Rain Dance. If you choose Leftovers, Protect is for an extra turn of recovery, or Ice Beam to hit Dragons. Toxic usually force your opponent a switch, a good tanking move. Skarmtine ftw!

That a good explanantion for ya, Wace?

Yes AMN. THIS is the type of analysis I'm looking for.

The set you've made is like the offensive version for Skarmory with a bit of support (toxic mainly).
Now, I think that this is best used as the Skarmory for Sp. DEF purposes for UU (as you pointed out...Skarmtine). It has the Same Base HP and Sp.DEF as Skarms Base HP and DEF (respectively).

So, how's about this:

Mantine @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Calm
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Sp.DEF / 4 Sp.ATK
- Toxic
- Confuse Ray
- Hydro Pump / Aqua Ring
- Protect

I would have liked to fit in Mirror Coat in there, but I'm not entirely sure what to replace...maybe Pump / Ring.
Like you've said, this works excellently with SRock / Spikes Support...
It's a bit noobish I admit, but aside from the "sweeper" variant, I don't see many other options for this thing.

Now, I can only hope people will discuss this for a (little) while.

I want to see a few good arguments for both sets from OTHER people too.

@ Dark`: Oh wellz.