Official Machina Guide and Discussion - Thread 24

[Mage Master]

It dies to removal so I can see why people wouldn't want to run it.

Oh wait, every other monster in the deck also dies to removal. My bad.

[UTurnMeOn]

I wish they would limit CFnomnomD and ban Limiter Removal. We could easily climb up to 1 for just a format, it's all I'm asking.

this is just stupid on banning Limiter Removal just to make us tier1 which doesnt make sense because limiter is like our game condition -_-. just limit Cyber Dragon and then its all good even if cfd is limited people will only tend to use 1 of them most of the time.

[ThatKidThere]

this is just stupid on banning Limiter Removal just to make us tier1 which doesnt make sense because limiter is like our game condition -_-. just limit Cyber Dragon and then its all good even if cfd is limited people will only tend to use 1 of them most of the time.

it's the one and only card I hear people complain about through machines, so why not? I've won games without drawing into it before. I like triple Cyber Dragon, it's just CFD is the real problem. I notice people don't like running Cyber Dragon because of CFD threat. All those times this thread has argued about it... kinda hard to forget.

Additional Comment:

and plus, we all know first turn Gearframe, Fortress, Giant Trunade, Limiter Removal is broken.

[UTurnMeOn]

and plus, we all know first turn Gearframe, Fortress, Giant Trunade, Limiter Removal is broken.

Always happens to me. CFD should just be banned no?

[ThatKidThere]

I think banning CFD will just break us even more. I wouldn't mind it, of course =]
Plus there's always threats like System Down.

[Tension]

3 Machina Fortress
3 Machina Gearframe
3 Genex Ally Birdman
2 Red Gadget
2 Yellow Gadget
2 Green Gadget
2 Breaker the Magical Warrior
1 Genex Neutron
[18]

Okay, without cutting Neutron where would you guys put Force in here?

Personally I would cut the Genex Neutron, because you seem to want to make arcanite plays off breaker. It depends heavily on what Monster:Spell:Trap ratio you want, and how many cards you're running in the deck in total.

[Mage Master]

You'd cut Neutron for Force?

[UTurnMeOn]

I think banning CFD will just break us even more. I wouldn't mind it, of course =]
Plus there's always threats like System Down.

Haha when people start using System Down it just makes me happy because people would start countering us specifically machines. Banning of CFD would just lead us to more explosiveness but konami wouldnt do that =/

[blockman11]

Wat do u guys think about 2 malefic cyber end in the side. Since Dragunities and GKS are so popular, u could potentially drop a free 4k beater. Also at worst it's a 1 card pitch for fortress. I also side in 3 Zombie World against certian decks. I think it deserves some more testing. Ur opinions?

[Xardas]

Back from my holiday. Did I miss much?

[ThatKidThere]

Wat do u guys think about 2 malefic cyber end in the side. Since Dragunities and GKS are so popular, u could potentially drop a free 4k beater. Also at worst it's a 1 card pitch for fortress. I also side in 3 Zombie World against certian decks. I think it deserves some more testing. Ur opinions?

I think it's good side material as well.

Back from my holiday. Did I miss much?

Birdman builds being posted without Genex Neutrons, me thinking limit CFD and ban Limiter Removal will make us balanced and all that jazz.

Additional Comment:

oh yeah, and welcome back!

[Xardas]

Wait, birdman builds without a single neutron?
NANI?!
I know some of my ideas might be a bit eccentric but like... seriously?
THIS ISN'T MADNESS. THIS IS UTTER ****UP.
And that would be cool. But then I wouldnt know what to side :D

And thank you very much :)

[UTurnMeOn]

**** Genex Neutron its all about that lone birdman!

should we consider running 2 Arcanite Magician in the xtra deck?

[Mage Master]

Don't worry Xard I'm fighting the good fight.

[NaniwaTiger]

I actually dropped a Birdman for a Reaper last minute today.

Didn't really regret as Reaper is an MVP this format. So good.

[Xardas]

Here is the way I would like to run my birdie build :
6 Gadgets
3 Gearframes
3 Fortress
2 Breaker
2 Reaper / TKRO
2 Birdie
1 Neutron

And thank god Mage Master :)

[ThatKidThere]

I stand with Genex Neutron. Ancient Sacred Wyvern is the nuts, btw.

[UTurnMeOn]

I stand with Genex Neutron. Ancient Sacred Wyvern is the nuts, btw.

Ancient Sacred Wyvern? what how?

[ThatKidThere]

Good question. I think I'm getting mixed up with my nordic deck, my bad. =|

[encyclopedea]

what do you think of this build? it places more emphasis on unions...


Monsters:23

3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Gearframe
3x Machina Peacekeeper
2x Oilmen
2x Heavy Mech Support Platform
2x Red Gadget
2x Yellow Gadget
2x Green Gadget
2x genex ally birdman
1x Machina Force
1x Plaguespreader Zombie

spells:13

2x Solidarity
2x Frontline Base
1x Dark Hole
1x Monster Reborn
1x Machine Duplication
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
2x Combination Attack
1x Limiter Removal
1x Release Restraint Wave

traps: 6

3x Roll Out!
2x Dimensional Prison
1x Mirror Force

extra:6

2x Ally of Justice Catastor
1x Black Rose Dragon
2x karakuri shogun burei
1x Stardust Dragon
2x Armory Arm
1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Side:10
2x Imperial Iron Wall
2x Smashing Ground
2x Nobleman of Crossout
2x Prohibition
2x Cyber Dragon

[UTurnMeOn]

Good question. I think I'm getting mixed up with my nordic deck, my bad. =|

lulz oookay
does anyone think that Scraps are the new Machinas?

[Jazriel]

Just rolled locals today, lost in last round of swiss due to bad ruling and a misplay, beat him in finals.


Machina v2.5
3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Gearframe
3x Machina Peacekeeper
3x D.D. Warrior Lady
2x Machina Force
2x Spirit Reaper
1x Machina Sniper
1x Machina Soldier
1x Effect Veiler

3x Smashing Ground
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Giant Trunade
1x Monster Reborn
1x Pot of Avarice
1x Limiter Removal
1x Book of Moon
1x Dark Hole
1x Nobleman of Crossout

2x Seven Tools of the Bandit
2x Bottomless Trap Hole
2x Dimensional Prison
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Mirror Force

Side Deck:
2x Kinetic Soldier
2x Dust Tornado
2x Cyber Dragon
2x Snowman Eater
1x Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
1x Nobleman of Crossout



DDWL MVP. Spirit Reaper won me 2 games due to massive plus. Siding into Snowman and Grand Mole too good. Kinetic ***** LSS. I beat 2 GK due to me being awesome and maining + siding a NoC. Veiler is honestly not as useful as I thought it would be, since it's only during their turn. I had 1 game where I opened with it and was ready to negate Kagemusha, but he drew poorly and didn't have the opening anyways. Shi En is really friggin' annoying, can't draw into monster-based monster-hate enough vs that ******.

Get at me bro.

[Cyberzilla]

lulz oookay
does anyone think that Scraps are the new Machinas?

no, they're kind of old anyway. They run totally differently than machina.

Agents are definitely the new machina.

[Delta]

Any suggestions on a Machina/Jinzo build?

[ThatKidThere]

Probably the future fusion build of it

[UTurnMeOn]

Just rolled locals today, lost in last round of swiss due to bad ruling and a misplay, beat him in finals.


Machina v2.5
3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Gearframe
3x Machina Peacekeeper
3x D.D. Warrior Lady
2x Machina Force
2x Spirit Reaper
1x Machina Sniper
1x Machina Soldier
1x Effect Veiler

3x Smashing Ground
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Giant Trunade
1x Monster Reborn
1x Pot of Avarice
1x Limiter Removal
1x Book of Moon
1x Dark Hole
1x Nobleman of Crossout

2x Seven Tools of the Bandit
2x Bottomless Trap Hole
2x Dimensional Prison
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Mirror Force

Side Deck:
2x Kinetic Soldier
2x Dust Tornado
2x Cyber Dragon
2x Snowman Eater
1x Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
1x Nobleman of Crossout



DDWL MVP. Spirit Reaper won me 2 games due to massive plus. Siding into Snowman and Grand Mole too good. Kinetic ***** LSS. I beat 2 GK due to me being awesome and maining + siding a NoC. Veiler is honestly not as useful as I thought it would be, since it's only during their turn. I had 1 game where I opened with it and was ready to negate Kagemusha, but he drew poorly and didn't have the opening anyways. Shi En is really friggin' annoying, can't draw into monster-based monster-hate enough vs that ******.

Get at me bro.

PLS tell me how the DDWLs were mvp because I use to run them to and I kinda want to run them again pls inspire me!

[Jazriel]

PLS tell me how the DDWLs were mvp because I use to run them to and I kinda want to run them again pls inspire me!

Match starts. Lose the die roll (I only won 2 die rolls in 7 matches). Opponent: Smoke Signal for Kageki, summon Kagemusha. Tune into Shi En. Set 3 backrow end.

You open with 7 Tools, MST, Reborn, DDWL, Peacekeeper, and something else. Set DDWL, 7 Tools, and MST.

They draw, look at their hand, and attack. You now win.


That was basically it vs LSS. Vs Gravekeeper I would remove recruiters/descendants with BTH and use DDWL to remove their Assailants/Attackers. Played some random burn, won 'cause I could remove Marshmallon. What else did I play, a rough netdeck of Flores' winning deck. DDWL removing Rai-Oh too good.


As we can see in Flores' deck, monster-based monster-hate is trump this format. DDWL is just so good right now. The worst play I had to do today with DDWL was ram her into a Shi En to get rid of it for -1000 life points.

[Ssj4NyanNyan]

I won my Box tourny a while ago due to a running a D.D. Warrior Lady engine

[3] Warrior Lady
[1] RoTA

It *****

[UTurnMeOn]

Match starts. Lose the die roll (I only won 2 die rolls in 7 matches). Opponent: Smoke Signal for Kageki, summon Kagemusha. Tune into Shi En. Set 3 backrow end.

You open with 7 Tools, MST, Reborn, DDWL, Peacekeeper, and something else. Set DDWL, 7 Tools, and MST.

They draw, look at their hand, and attack. You now win.


That was basically it vs LSS. Vs Gravekeeper I would remove recruiters/descendants with BTH and use DDWL to remove their Assailants/Attackers. Played some random burn, won 'cause I could remove Marshmallon. What else did I play, a rough netdeck of Flores' winning deck. DDWL removing Rai-Oh too good.


As we can see in Flores' deck, monster-based monster-hate is trump this format. DDWL is just so good right now. The worst play I had to do today with DDWL was ram her into a Shi En to get rid of it for -1000 life points.

dam... do you usually need to side it out if u play against different decks? and lol i wanna try that d.d warrior lady engine.

[Tension]

You'd cut Neutron for Force?

To answer your question, yes. You asked me how I would fit in force in that line-up. That is how I would do it. However, since I've never tried to build a deck using birdman before, I don't really have any experience with that sort of style. In my current control build, I run 42 cards with 19 monsters. As I stated, I have no idea on how many cards you run in your deck, and so I chose the best possible option from my point of view. I would honestly only run Neutron if you wanted to draw birdman more and if you wanted more deck-thinning, which IMO, machina have enough of already.

[Jazriel]

dam... do you usually need to side it out if u play against different decks? and lol i wanna try that d.d warrior lady engine.

Wtf? DDWL was the last thing I'd side out. Considering I'd side into Dust, CyDra, Kinetic, Snowman, or another NoC.

Things I'd side out are dead draws like Avarice, Prisons vs LSS, Fortress + Force, or other stuff. DDWL stayed in always and I would side in more monster-based monster-hate. DDWL is so good, I was considering running a RotA just for her but I felt that with Reaper and DDWL and PK I was fine.

[Ssj4NyanNyan]

In the warrior Lady engine, you can also run 1x Rose Warrior of Revenge and 1x Monk. May seem random, but it maKES YOU A DUST in a single turn. It won me that tourny.

[UTurnMeOn]

Wtf? DDWL was the last thing I'd side out. Considering I'd side into Dust, CyDra, Kinetic, Snowman, or another NoC.

Things I'd side out are dead draws like Avarice, Prisons vs LSS, Fortress + Force, or other stuff. DDWL stayed in always and I would side in more monster-based monster-hate. DDWL is so good, I was considering running a RotA just for her but I felt that with Reaper and DDWL and PK I was fine.

Dude u have to tell me how to use ddwl effectively I usually find it kinda dead at late games or like when my opponent over swarms the field

Additional Comment:

In the warrior Lady engine, you can also run 1x Rose Warrior of Revenge and 1x Monk. May seem random, but it maKES YOU A DUST in a single turn. It won me that tourny.

wait i dont get what u mean by making me a dust

[Ssj4NyanNyan]

Monk + Rose = Dust

Ignore caps. Nonthe les, it is a sexy engine

[Allen]

My deck for locals next week.

Monsters:

Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon x3
Machina Fortress x3
Machina Gearframe x3
Card Trooper(will be a 3rd Dekoichi when I have it)
Malefic Cyber End Dragon x3
Dark Armed Dragon
Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive x2
Snipe Hunter x2
Spirit Reaper

Spells:
Geartown x3
Mystical Space Typhoon x2
Gold Sarcophagus x2
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole
Giant Trunade
Terraforming
Pot of Avarice
Limiter Removal

Traps:
Bottomless Trap Hole x2
Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Magical Hats x2(lol)
Starlight Road
Trap Stun

[UTurnMeOn]

Monk + Rose = Dust

Ignore caps. Nonthe les, it is a sexy engine

Dust??? what is dust?

[Tension]

Dust??? what is dust?

He's referring to Stardust Dragon.

[UTurnMeOn]

He's referring to Stardust Dragon.

lol okay as of now im going back to my 2 DDWL duo and drop 1 of my cyber -_-

Additional Comment:

what do you think of this build? it places more emphasis on unions...


Monsters:23

3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Gearframe
3x Machina Peacekeeper
2x Oilmen
2x Heavy Mech Support Platform
2x Red Gadget
2x Yellow Gadget
2x Green Gadget
2x genex ally birdman
1x Machina Force
1x Plaguespreader Zombie

spells:13

2x Solidarity
2x Frontline Base
1x Dark Hole
1x Monster Reborn
1x Machine Duplication
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
2x Combination Attack
1x Limiter Removal
1x Release Restraint Wave

traps: 6

3x Roll Out!
2x Dimensional Prison
1x Mirror Force

extra:6

2x Ally of Justice Catastor
1x Black Rose Dragon
2x karakuri shogun burei
1x Stardust Dragon
2x Armory Arm
1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Side:10
2x Imperial Iron Wall
2x Smashing Ground
2x Nobleman of Crossout
2x Prohibition
2x Cyber Dragon

im sorry but how does this deck really works?

[Ephemerality]

If you synchro Birdman with DDWL, can you bring out the DDWL you're synching with in defense position if you make Triforce

[Reapex]

Yes .

[Ephemerality]

I thought the effect activates before DDWL hits the grave. w/e

[UTurnMeOn]

my my my god......triple D.D. Warrior ladies with rota is is just ******* beast! I just played my friend's gravekeepers on which I usually lose 1st game since I only carry 2 breaker but when I added the ddwl engine it was just amazing!

[G6Toast]

Anyone want to rate my deck?

Monsters: 17
2 Yellow Gadget
2 Red Gadget
2 Green Gadget
3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
1 Machina Force
2 Cyber Dragon
2 Genex Ally Birdman

Magic: 12
2 Upstart Goblin
2 Solidarity
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Smashing Ground
1 Monster Reborn
1 Limiter Removal
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole

Traps: 11
2 Solemn Warning
2 Dimensional Prison
1 Mirror Force
1 Royal Oppression
2 Seven Tools of the Bandit
1 Solemn Judgment
2 Malevolent Catastrophe

Extra: 15
2 Genex Ally Triforce
2 Black Rose Dragon
1 Chimaratech Fortress Dragon
10 Staple Syncrhos

Side: 15
1 Cyber Dragon
3 Cyber End Dragon
3 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
2 Kinetic Soildiers
1 Mind Crush
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Smashing Ground
3 undecided side deck cards

When I buy Duality's I am going to -2 Upstart Goblin and add them in. I just do not want to buy them until all 18 of Gold series 4 cards have been released.

The basic strategy of this deck is to summon Genex Ally Triforce with Birdman and a gadget really easily. It has a broken effect when summoned with an earth monster, and this deck makes getting it really easily. I also find it very good agaisnt Gravekeepers, it has alot of spell and trap hate. This is how my games usually go if all go to plan.

Game 1 vs GK: Destroy Necrovalley as much as possible with Malevolent Catastrophe, Mystical Space Typhoon and just use as much of my spells and traps as possible to hurt them with Smashing Ground, solemn warning, Royal Oppression, and D-Prison.

Game 2 vs GK: I now side in my 3 Cyber End Dragon, 3 Malefic Cyber End Dragon, Mind Crush and Trap Dustshoot. I then try and go for game with my 4000 beatsticks since they have helped me out with Necrovalley on the field.

[Ephemerality]

This has been said many times. Upstart is not a PoD replacement. Don't run it at all.

[G6Toast]

This has been said many times. Upstart is not a PoD replacement. Don't run it at all.

I thought it would be better since there so much special summoning in this deck, so main 2 PoD instead?

[Ephemerality]

I thought it would be better since there so much special summoning in this deck, so main 2 PoD instead?Imo, space in my deck is so tight that I can't even fit some main cards T_T

[Tension]

I thought the effect activates before DDWL hits the grave. w/e

If you reread Triforce's effect, you will see that it is an ignition effect.

[Ephemerality]

If you reread Triforce's effect, you will see that it is an ignition effect.Okay thanks but I'm a ruling nub. I can't distinguish the difference between Ignition and Trigger. And even if I can, I can't remember which one is which. etc etc. I have to rely on the only reliable judge in my city cause every other judge *****s up rulings for me.

Me: "Can't DD Crow my Machina Fortress. It's an inherent summon"
Judge: "Yes you can. No it's not an inherent summon"

Outruled. QQ

[Rafael5360]

I cannot really understand how can I fit in a tripple D.D. Warrior Lady? This would mess the hand entirely. Plus, it cannot be used for summoning Machina Fortress, and by drawing 2 of them you will suck a huge Dic K.

[Tension]

Okay thanks but I'm a ruling nub. I can't distinguish the difference between Ignition and Trigger. And even if I can, I can't remember which one is which. etc etc. I have to rely on the only reliable judge in my city cause every other judge *****s up rulings for me.

Me: "Can't DD Crow my Machina Fortress. It's an inherent summon"
Judge: "Yes you can. No it's not an inherent summon"

Outruled. QQ

I am as well, although I know most of my triggers and ignitions. The only reason I could tell for Triforce was that it said 'Once per Turn....' not 'When this card is summoned...' . I had to double check on wikipedia as well :P

[vahallo]

my friend day two d anahiem with this deck, his monster line up was 2 of each gadget, 1 cyber, 1 tropper, 3 gearframe, 3 fortress and 1 duradark. he mained 2 duality and 2 solidarity

[bankotsu07]

My deck for locals next week.

Monsters:

Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon x3
Machina Fortress x3
Machina Gearframe x3
Card Trooper(will be a 3rd Dekoichi when I have it)
Malefic Cyber End Dragon x3
Dark Armed Dragon
Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive x2
Snipe Hunter x2
Spirit Reaper

Spells:
Geartown x3
Mystical Space Typhoon x2
Gold Sarcophagus x2
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole
Giant Trunade
Terraforming
Pot of Avarice
Limiter Removal

Traps:
Bottomless Trap Hole x2
Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Magical Hats x2(lol)
Starlight Road
Trap Stun

how does it do

[Xardas]

my my my god......triple D.D. Warrior ladies with rota is is just ******* beast! I just played my friend's gravekeepers on which I usually lose 1st game since I only carry 2 breaker but when I added the ddwl engine it was just amazing!

Add in 2 birdies as well + a neutron
<3

[Alphamale]

Went 1-4 at the same local I went 4-1 and 5-0 at the last two weeks.

I was off my game. Focusing on trades and such. Over extending for fun, seeing how people handle it. My only win came in a bye, lol.

I've been focusing so much on my Hyperion deck I almost forgot how to run smoothly. I miss veilers effect over 5 times now that I'm running two. I guess not playing gadgets got me out of my groove.

In other news, that Hyperion deck wrecks face.

[Jazriel]

It's not an "engine" -_-

It's just tech. 5 plant cards is an engine because it actually adds a lot to the deck, and the deck's plays are based around those 5 plants. Running triple DDWL, while boss, is just tech.

Additional Comment:

Anyone have thoughts on maining Duradark? I just got one and am strongly considering maining him.

[Reapex]

He's pretty awesome tech.

[Jazriel]

He's pretty awesome tech.

Side/Main? Outs to Shi En are always good, but I'm wondering what this format you can really take down with his effect that would warrant him being mained. Only GK and Shi En come to mind, so it seems more of a side deck card.

[Xardas]

Side/Main? Outs to Shi En are always good, but I'm wondering what this format you can really take down with his effect that would warrant him being mained. Only GK and Shi En come to mind, so it seems more of a side deck card.

I prefer him in side. There's a lot of decks at my locals that do not really run dark monsters so...

[Radant128]

I'll keep singing it, but Karakuri Ninja mdl 339 "Sazank".... Loving the hell out of it. Like Duradark, it's an out to Shi En, but unlike Duradark, it's ability to deal with monsters is more generic and... it doesn't "destroy". :cool:

Duradark's main advantage is that it's faster but it can also get hit by Musakani Magatama.

[UTurnMeOn]

Karakuri Ninja mdl 339 "Sazank" vs DDWL
the only thing I dont like about sazank is that it has to attack sooo if there's a beater out there he goes suicide

Additional Comment:

Add in 2 birdies as well + a neutron
<3

wassup with the neutrons lol i think that most people would bottomless him right away lol and ya im tied down to 1 birdy 0.o

[Radant128]

Karakuri Ninja mdl 339 "Sazank" vs DDWL
the only thing I dont like about sazank is that it has to attack sooo if there's a beater out there he goes suicide

Additional Comment:



wassup with the neutrons lol i think that most people would bottomless him right away lol and ya im tied down to 1 birdy 0.o

The nice thing about Sazank is that the turn it is flipped, it can attack directly. And if it is attacked, it goes to defense position. And if it somehow lived to the next turn, you simply change it's battle position and then it's "I must attack if I'm able to" clause doesn't matter because... well, it is unable to attack in defense position.

Mostly you just set it and forget it.

[UTurnMeOn]

The nice thing about Sazank is that the turn it is flipped, it can attack directly. And if it is attacked, it goes to defense position. And if it somehow lived to the next turn, you simply change it's battle position and then it's "I must attack if I'm able to" clause doesn't matter because... well, it is unable to attack in defense position.

Mostly you just set it and forget it.

How well does sazank do against gks?

[Radant128]

How well does sazank do against gks?

I've had limited opportunity to test against that match up. However, that is one match up where D.D. Warrior Lady might function better since it can truck a Recruiter and then straight send it out of play.

That being said, I can already say Sazank works just fine against Samurai, X-Sabers, Stun, and Gladiator Beasts. In those match ups, Sazank doesn't frequently work any worse, can actually work better, or it simply either doesn't hurt or doesn't change much.

Right now, I'm currently at a single D.D. Warrior Lady... Might be going up to two, though.

[ThatKidThere]

It's been a while since in played a Machina Gadget deck. I think I'll work on one soon.

[vahallo]

Solidarity is the only way to go this format...I haven't played the deck in months though I might if I get dualitys soon though

[Mage Master]

That statement seems rather questionable when you yourself admit that you haven't played the deck in months.

[Cyberzilla]

Solidarity is the only way to go this format...I haven't played the deck in months though I might if I get dualitys soon though
Wrong.
That statement seems rather questionable when you yourself admit that you haven't played the deck in months.

Exactly.

[bankotsu07]

hey i activate reborn on his thought rulerin his grave and he chains call on it to take control of it can he do that

[Cyberzilla]

hey i activate reborn on his thought rulerin his grave and he chains call on it to take control of it can he do that

actually yes. Then reborn does not go through.

[555cookiez]

subbing also wat do u guys think of this build I'm new to gadgets so plz tell me wat u think
Monsters: 16
3 Machina Fortress
3 Machina Gearframe
1 Machina Force
3 Cyber Dragon
2 Red Gadget
2 Green Gadget
2 Yellow Gadget

Spells: 15
3 Solidarity
3 Smashing Ground
1 fissure
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Limiter Removal
1 Giant Trunade

Traps: 8
3 Dimensional Prison
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
2 Divine Wrath
1 Mirror Force

Side deck:6 so far
2 Gozen Match
2 Necrovalley
2 consecrated light

[socc0rfreak]

With birdman and HA4 becoming legal soon.. what do you guys think is the best gadget variant?

[Mage Master]

Gadget variant? Wrong thread?

Or do you mean Machina deck running Gadgets?

[Ephemerality]

With birdman and HA4 becoming legal soon.. what do you guys think is the best gadget variant?Personally running 2 DDWL 2 Breaker 3 Birdman and the rest standard. A lot of monsters but I guess that's a plus when you run Birdman. Haven't tested it much as spring break started but I might do some testing on Wednesday with my friends.

[Eza2510]

subbing also wat do u guys think of this build I'm new to gadgets so plz tell me wat u think

-2 Cyber Dragons (3 is just suicide. Never use 3 unless you're actually using a Cyber Dragon deck/ monarchs)
-1 Solidarity (3 is too many and the third usually leads to dead draws)

+2 techs
+1 something else lolz

Additional Comment:

Also, how many birdmans do you think should be the standard. I managed to get my hands on one and I'm trying to get another one. I think 3 is too much?

[Mage Master]

3 Birdmen, no more no less.

[blockman11]

I'll keep singing it, but Karakuri Ninja mdl 339 "Sazank".... Loving the hell out of it. Like Duradark, it's an out to Shi En, but unlike Duradark, it's ability to deal with monsters is more generic and... it doesn't "destroy". :cool:

Duradark's main advantage is that it's faster but it can also get hit by Musakani Magatama.

It's decent tech if u got a burei in the side. I won a game won by synching gale and a gadget into burei, SS sazank. Hit over my oppenent's Grandmaster (cut from GAle), Kageki, for a great deal of damage. He tops Juju master. Sets it. I turn it to atk mode with Burei, He goes: " WTF! Burei can DO THAT?" I switch it to atk, and proceed to hit him for game =P Good times....

Additional Comment:

my my my god......triple D.D. Warrior ladies with rota is is just ******* beast! I just played my friend's gravekeepers on which I usually lose 1st game since I only carry 2 breaker but when I added the ddwl engine it was just amazing!

I think that 4 ways to grab DDWL is just a bit much. Personally.

[vahallo]

Wrong.


Exactly.
im just going off what i see top ycs regionals and locals...

i still dont think tht Solidarity is ever dead...dont see how it could be.

[Cyberzilla]

im just going off what i see top ycs regionals and locals...

i still dont think tht Solidarity is ever dead...dont see how it could be.

Non-solidarity builds have topped YCS's the most...

[vahallo]

this format? look again misterrr...

[Cyberzilla]

A lot of the time, it's better to have techs than beefy gadgets

Additional Comment:

this format? look again misterrr...

And how many ycs's have there been this format?

The very last ycs, no one topped with Solidarity.

Where are you getting your info?

Additional Comment:

Also, in my opinion, good players will do equally well with solid or tech builds.
That's how it's been for me in any case, i just like to play tech builds more.

Additional Comment:

April 14th anaheim ycs
Takaya Katsuma (Top 32 – Machina Gadget)
Monsters: 17
1 Tragoedia
2 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Gearframe
3 Green Gadget
3 Red Gadget
3 Yellow Gadget
1 Sangan
1 Plaguespreader Zombie
1 Effect Veiler

Spells: 15
3 Pot of Duality
3 Smashing Ground
3 Creature Swap
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon

Traps: 13
1 Solemn Judgment
2 Solemn Warning
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
3 Dimensional Prison
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Chain Disappearance
1 Royal Oppression

Extra Deck: 15
1 Mist Wurm
2 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Arcanite Magician
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Iron Chain Dragon
1 Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Magical Android
1 Armory Arm
1 Formula Synchron

Side Deck: 15
3 Mask of Restrict
3 Spell Shattering Arrow
3 Nobleman of Crossout
3 D.D. Crow
2 Kinetic Soldier
1 Cyber Dragon

As you can see, no solidarity

[Jazriel]

Solidarity isn't going to do anything this format. It'll either be Descendant fodder or hit by MST/Hand.

[vahallo]

i didnt mean ycs but regionals and locals yes, but my friend was 1 win away from top 32 at anahiem was solidarity

[Ephemerality]

Some of us can't afford Dualities :|

[vahallo]

lots of us cant

[TimelessHero]

This is my decklist. tell me what u guys think


3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Peacekeeper
2 Genex ally birdman
2 Ancient Gear Gadjilitron Dragon
1 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
2 Breaker the Magical Warrior
1 Minefieldriller
2 Gigantes
1 Thunder King Rai-Oh


3 Geartown
2 Terraforming
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole
2 Double Cyclone
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Smashing Ground


1 Mirror Force
2 Trap Stun
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Magical cylindar

[vahallo]

Dude u have to tell me how to use ddwl effectively I usually find it kinda dead at late games or like when my opponent over swarms the field

Additional Comment:



wait i dont get what u mean by making me a dust

justralized u commented on my youtube video along time ago haha only reconized u by ur pict http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBreasticles

[Cyberzilla]

i didnt mean ycs but regionals and locals yes, but my friend was 1 win away from top 32 at anahiem was solidarity

1 win away doesn't count. I'm sure there was aldo a non-solid who was 1 win away lol, you never know.

And I got my invite with non-solid and I know others who got invites with both versions, so that statement is unsupported as well

[TimelessHero]

l> for advice on my decklist

[UTurnMeOn]

It's decent tech if u got a burei in the side. I won a game won by synching gale and a gadget into burei, SS sazank. Hit over my oppenent's Grandmaster (cut from GAle), Kageki, for a great deal of damage. He tops Juju master. Sets it. I turn it to atk mode with Burei, He goes: " WTF! Burei can DO THAT?" I switch it to atk, and proceed to hit him for game =P Good times....

Additional Comment:



I think that 4 ways to grab DDWL is just a bit much. Personally.

ya it was just a trial right now i dropped 1 ddwl and 1 rota for 1 breaker and 1 Cyber Dragon. Cyber Dragon makes birdman plays alot faster =/
Anyone thinks that the most played deck right now would be light beats? if so how should control decks adjust to them like carry monster hate or backrow hate?

Additional Comment:

This is my decklist. tell me what u guys think


3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Peacekeeper
2 Genex ally birdman
2 Ancient Gear Gadjilitron Dragon
1 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
2 Breaker the Magical Warrior
1 Minefieldriller
2 Gigantes
1 Thunder King Rai-Oh


3 Geartown
2 Terraforming
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole
2 Double Cyclone
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Smashing Ground


1 Mirror Force
2 Trap Stun
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Magical cylindar

is this a fun deck to play?

Additional Comment:

justralized u commented on my youtube video along time ago haha only reconized u by ur pict http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBreasticles

lol what video was it?

[timgeeline~]

ill play this deck when this guy comes out >>>> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tech_Genus_Gear_Zombie

[vahallo]

just for instant catasore?

[TimelessHero]

@uturnmeon its really fun to play against decks that rely on field spells like dragunitys. btw how do u do that quote thingy?

[UTurnMeOn]

@uturnmeon its really fun to play against decks that rely on field spells like dragunitys. btw how do u do that quote thingy?

oh okay. all u have to do is press the quote button on the post that u want to quote then voila

[TimelessHero]

wow thanks. so any changes in my deck? how competitive can it be?

[UTurnMeOn]

wow thanks. so any changes in my deck? how competitive can it be?

i dont really know on how it works but minedriller could be changed to something

[vahallo]

play malefic cyber end in this

[UTurnMeOn]

play malefic cyber end in this

what was that video??

[Radant128]

It's decent tech if u got a burei in the side. I won a game won by synching gale and a gadget into burei, SS sazank. Hit over my oppenent's Grandmaster (cut from GAle), Kageki, for a great deal of damage. He tops Juju master. Sets it. I turn it to atk mode with Burei, He goes: " WTF! Burei can DO THAT?" I switch it to atk, and proceed to hit him for game =P Good times....

It'd be a lot better if Burei could flip Sazank back down and if Sazank was a tuner, neither of which are the case. The purpose of Sazank is to set it and forget it. Friend of mine *****ed at me so hard while he was playing Samurai because he's like "Sazank isn't fair, I have no answer to it, that card is overpowered"... Yet Shi En is totally fair because without Sazank, my only answer is Fortress and Shi En basically shuts down the very spell/trap-based removal Machina Gadgets is otherwise completely dependent upon.

Yeah, that's more fair, though. >_> My tech answers or dodges three of your cards. Your absurd, brainlessly easy to summon synchro guy answers almost my entire deck, single-handedly. :rolleyes:

1 win away doesn't count. I'm sure there was aldo a non-solid who was 1 win away lol, you never know.

And I got my invite with non-solid and I know others who got invites with both versions, so that statement is unsupported as well

The build I qualified for nationals with was also a non-solid. I'm not opposed to Solidarity decks doing well, but I get nervous about Solidarity clogging my draws. That being said, Solidarity+Gadgets+Royal Oppression = :cool:

[vahallo]

what was that video??

i deleted it lol

Additional Comment:

how do u guys think Solidarity is ever dead?!?!?!?! it stacks u know?!?!?

[UTurnMeOn]

i deleted it lol

Additional Comment:

how do u guys think Solidarity is ever dead?!?!?!?! it stacks u know?!?!?

what was it about?
Solidarity stacks but yahhh

[MADSCIENTIST]

it doesnt matter how many times Solidarity stacks if you dont have any monsters Solidarity is DEAD.

[ThatKidThere]

I never stack my Solidarity, I set them. You know, it is the "set, set, set. go." format still.

[UTurnMeOn]

I never stack my Solidarity, I set them. You know, it is the "set, set, set. go." format still.

Xing Zhen Hu ***** my friend the other day for doing that

[vahallo]

it doesnt matter how many times Solidarity stacks if you dont have any monsters Solidarity is DEAD.

u should always have monsters lol thts why this deck is a massive tool box haha

[Allen]

how does it do

Ive only had the chance to test it against my formula deck but it lost twice in about 10 or so matches. It pretty surprising actually. At one point in one game I had Dark Armed, Fortress and a Gadjiltron on the field. Magical Hats sort of counteracts MCED but not enough to where I would drop MCED. Ill know for sure how it works in two days when I go to a tourney.

[555cookiez]

-2 Cyber Dragons (3 is just suicide. Never use 3 unless you're actually using a Cyber Dragon deck/ monarchs)
-1 Solidarity (3 is too many and the third usually leads to dead draws)

+2 techs
+1 something else lolz

Additional Comment:

Also, how many birdmans do you think should be the standard. I managed to get my hands on one and I'm trying to get another one. I think 3 is too much?
here is the updated version -2 CyDra +2 recyclers -1 Solidarity -1 Pot of Avarice +2 fissure
Monsters: 17
3 Machina Fortress
3 Machina Gearframe
1 Machina Force
1 Cyber Dragon
2 Red Gadget
2 Green Gadget
2 Yellow Gadget
2 scrap recycer

Spells: 15
2 Solidarity
3 Smashing Ground
3 fissure
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Giant Trunade

Traps: 9
3 Dimensional Prison
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
2 Divine Wrath
1 Mirror Force

Side deck:6 so far
2 Gozen Match
2 Necrovalley
2 consecrated light

[socc0rfreak]

Gadget variant? Wrong thread?

Or do you mean Machina deck running Gadgets?

ya i meant machina deck lol ...

right now im running a Future Fusion/Overload Fusion build with double gold sarc...i just dont seem to pull it off enough or quick enough

[vahallo]

only run Future Fusion if ur running Jinzo otk imo, its pretty good this format with 3 sarc

[socc0rfreak]

do you think its better to have 3 Jinzo/jinzo returner or just 2?

[Reapex]

3 Sarc
3 Duality

Jinzo OTK sounds good.

[vahallo]

2 Jinzo/returner personally

[socc0rfreak]

if only i could afford 3 dualities :(

[vahallo]

anyone wanna yvd?

[socc0rfreak]

Heres my decklist as of right now for the Jinzo OTK

Monsters: 18
3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Gearframe
1x Machina Force
2x Red Gadget
2x Yellow Gadget
2x Green Gadget
2x Jinzo
2x Jinzo - Returner
1x Jinzo - Lord

spells: 13
1x Future Fusion
3x Smashing Ground
1x Giant Trunade
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
3x Gold Sarc
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Limiter Removal

traps:9
2x Dimensional Prison
2x Bottomless Trap Hole
1x Seven Tools of the Bandit
1x Torrential Tribute
2x Compulsory Evacuation Device
1x Mirror Force

i dont have any PoD or warning/judgement atm

[vahallo]

Monsters:

2x Red Gadget

2x Yellow Gadget

2x Green Gadget

3x Machina Fortress

1x Machina Force

3x Machina Gearframe

2x Card Trooper

2x Jinzo

2x Jinzo – Returner

2x Cyber Dragon




Spells:

3x Gold Sarcophagus

2x Mystical Space Typhoon

1x Pot of Avarice

1x Limiter Removal

1x Future Fusion

2x Solidarity

2x Smashing Ground



Traps:

2x Bottomless Trap Hole

1x Mirror Force

1x Torrential Tribute

1x Trap Dustshoot

1x Royal Oppression

1x Solemn Judgment

1x Call Of The Haunted

try this...

[Birchthegreat]

So what are we going to do for the upcoming format that im expecting to be dominated with Hyper Librarian decks?

or big play is what, play a guy, search another. Maybe do some birdman tricks.

while they are drawing 10 cards a turn or going for a OTK.

[555cookiez]

So what are we going to do for the upcoming format that im expecting to be dominated with Hyper Librarian decks?

or big play is what, play a guy, search another. Maybe do some birdman tricks.

while they are drawing 10 cards a turn or going for a OTK.

lmfao so true .

[encyclopedea]

So what are we going to do for the upcoming format that im expecting to be dominated with Hyper Librarian decks?

or big play is what, play a guy, search another. Maybe do some birdman tricks.

while they are drawing 10 cards a turn or going for a OTK.

take the deck up a notch, give it some speed with some overlooked cards.... maybe

[UTurnMeOn]

So what are we going to do for the upcoming format that im expecting to be dominated with Hyper Librarian decks?

or big play is what, play a guy, search another. Maybe do some birdman tricks.

while they are drawing 10 cards a turn or going for a OTK.

TKRO might be good this format just for that lol. All I could say is that we should watch out for those Doppel shenanigans and stuff I upped my DDWL to 3 since I realized that this deck has a hard time getting rid of bigger monsters late game.

Oh ya has anyone bought anything from ideal808 in ebay because I bought a birdman there and I heard that they take too long to ship and stuff

[Alphamale]

19
6x Gadgets
2x Machina Gearframe
2x Machina Fortress
1x Summoner Monk
2x D.D. Warrior Lady
1x Rose, Warrior of Revenge
3x Genex Ally Birdman
1x Krebons
1x Psychic Commander
11
1x ROTA
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Giant Trunade
1x Emergency Teleport
1x Limiter Removal (even needed?)
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
3x Smashing Ground
1x Fissure (just wanted another spell)
9
1x Mirror Force
1x Torrential Tribute
2x Bottomless Trap Hole
3x Compulsion Evacuation Device
2x Trap Stun

Just some musing. Birdman can bounce monk for some quick level 7s, Rota can search dd warrior/Rose for some synchros. I have no idea how well it runs, just something I was thinking about.

[UTurnMeOn]

19
6x Gadgets
2x Machina Gearframe
2x Machina Fortress
1x Summoner Monk
2x D.D. Warrior Lady
1x Rose, Warrior of Revenge
3x Genex Ally Birdman
1x Krebons
1x Psychic Commander
11
1x ROTA
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Giant Trunade
1x Emergency Teleport
1x Limiter Removal (even needed?)
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
3x Smashing Ground
1x Fissure (just wanted another spell)
9
1x Mirror Force
1x Torrential Tribute
2x Bottomless Trap Hole
3x Compulsion Evacuation Device
2x Trap Stun

Just some musing. Birdman can bounce monk for some quick level 7s, Rota can search dd warrior/Rose for some synchros. I have no idea how well it runs, just something I was thinking about.

lolololo add 1 more ddwl for the awesome rota engine

[Alphamale]

lolololo add 1 more ddwl for the awesome rota engine
Rose, Warrior of Revenge is a level 4 warrior. Works with ROTA.

[UTurnMeOn]

Rose, Warrior of Revenge is a level 4 warrior. Works with ROTA.

what im trying to say is that u shud increase the target of rota instead of just 3 monsters

[Alphamale]

what im trying to say is that u shud increase the target of rota instead of just 3 monsters

I guess you can up the ddwarrior/Rose count. Just musing at a different way to run machina.

[UTurnMeOn]

I guess you can up the ddwarrior/Rose count. Just musing at a different way to run machina.

hmm ya sure why not. Do u guys think that KMP is better than OG machina gadgets?

[alex01]

Hey I'm working on a Machina deck (because the Machina Mayhem deck was the cheapest to buy haha) but sadly I don't have many cards (well, over 100 now) but not these 'techs' you guys talk about or cards like Smashing Ground, bottomless etc.
I was wondering though, how do Machina decks play against decks that focus on Removing cards from play. Because once fortress is gone, the deck is pretty much useless. Would like some advice :)
I was going to post my deck up, but its not that great haha

[UTurnMeOn]

Hey I'm working on a Machina deck (because the Machina Mayhem deck was the cheapest to buy haha) but sadly I don't have many cards (well, over 100 now) but not these 'techs' you guys talk about or cards like Smashing Ground, bottomless etc.
I was wondering though, how do Machina decks play against decks that focus on Removing cards from play. Because once fortress is gone, the deck is pretty much useless. Would like some advice :)
I was going to post my deck up, but its not that great haha

Well sure it hurts us alot when Fortress is gone but the deck itself has a lot of ins and outs to win duels just like when my opponent uses Prohibition and calls out fortress, I was still able to win with the "techs" that I put in the deck so ya. You should post up your deck so we can see on what we can fix on it.

[Xardas]

I have pretty much completely switched to KMP by now. The deck is godly.

[vahallo]

i didnt like KMP....i play junk turbo ;D

[UTurnMeOn]

I have pretty much completely switched to KMP by now. The deck is godly.

Aww I guess you won't hang with the cool kids anymore =/

For some reason I feel that Machina Gadgets is like a Religion and that KMP didn't like how Machina Gadgets work and changed their ways on how they touch lil kids.

Anti Meta Gadget=Jews->Machina Gadget=Catholics->KMP=Protestant
meh idk I'm just bored.

[vahallo]

Aww I guess you won't hang with the cool kids anymore =/

For some reason I feel that Machina Gadgets is like a Religion and that KMP didn't like how Machina Gadgets work and changed their ways on how they touch lil kids.

Anti Meta Gadget=Jews->Machina Gadget=Catholics->KMP=Protestant
meh idk I'm just bored.
im sigging this hahahhaha

[ThatKidThere]

I've been KMP for some time now. The gadget engine was slow at my locals so I changed pace with KMP.

[Alphamale]

I don't have the cash for KMP =\
I'm prepping myself for Fairy Agents. Granted 90% of what I need will come from the structure, i need a few more synchros, trish being one.

[Radant128]

I have everything for KMP except for Burei... Turns out that card is pretty necessary. /RAGE!!!

I'll get a couple eventually, though.

[555cookiez]

wat do u guys think should I keep playing Solidarity or replace it with ddwl and stuff?

[Cyberzilla]

wat do u guys think should I keep playing Solidarity or replace it with ddwl and stuff?

Whatever's more comfortable

[FAD!]

Why are we back to suggesting terrible cards like Machina Force?

What makes it terrible? D:
It only sucks early game.

I'd rather run pretty much any tech card over it. That makes it terrible enough in my mind.

ive ran it without it before and trust me when u top deck gearframe late game with no other machines in hand...u wish u had force in ur deck

Ehh. I wouldn't build the deck without force. Late game, I'm looking forward to either Force or Gearframe to get Force.

Now, I tried the 2nd force in the side for GK. I hated that. One is max for me.

Force is outdated... Yay for Machina Cannon.

[Xardas]

Force is outdated... Yay for Machina Cannon.

Are we ever going to get it?...

[ivogel]

I made a machina/XYZ deck, it has done really well so far on yvd and all the pieces work really well together.

monsters: 20

Cyber Eltanin x2
Machina Fortress x2
Machina Gearframe x2
Machina Peacekeeper x3
X-Head Cannon x3
Y-Dragon Head x2
Z-Metal Tank x2
Honest
Cyber Valley x3

spell: 10
Gold Sarcophagus
Dark Hole
Limiter Removal
Book of Moon
Mystical Space Typhoon
Monster Reborn
Forbidden Lance x2
Machine Duplication x2

trap: 10

roll out
Return from the Different Dimension
Torrential Tribute
Mirror Force
Bottomless Trap Hole
Solemn Judgment
solemn warning x2
Ultimate Offering
Seven Tools of the Bandit

extra deck: all XYZ fusion monsters x2 + generic synchros

I really like this deck, the YZ-pieces are searchable by peacekeeper.
Peacekeeper and valley are very good with Machine Duplication.
Discard a XYZ piece for fortress, fill up the graveyard with light machines, remove them for eltanin, RFTDD for the win

Honest can be used as unexpected surprise.

[Jazriel]

Hey I'm working on a Machina deck (because the Machina Mayhem deck was the cheapest to buy haha) but sadly I don't have many cards (well, over 100 now) but not these 'techs' you guys talk about or cards like Smashing Ground, bottomless etc.
I was wondering though, how do Machina decks play against decks that focus on Removing cards from play. Because once fortress is gone, the deck is pretty much useless. Would like some advice :)
I was going to post my deck up, but its not that great haha

Not if you're good. The only cards that commonly see play that RFP are D. Prison and Bottomless. When you become a better player at this game, you'll learn to read those cards or force exchanges that leave you at the advantage in terms of Card Advantage (CA).

Remember, everytime someone Bottomless's or D. Prison's your gearframe, you've just won that exchange.

[555cookiez]

Whatever's more comfortable

cool so they're both equally effective? I wouldn't know because I'm new to MGs

[vahallo]

it depends on ur playstyle, and meta at ur locals

[555cookiez]

it depends on ur playstyle, and meta at ur locals

cool I guess I'll go the tech route then

Additional Comment:

hold on couldn't u go the route of Solidarity and ddwl since ddwl removes herself from play?

[ThatKidThere]

so it's agreed that the only thing beneficial from HA04 is Genex Ally Birdbro and Triforce, mirite?

[bankotsu07]

has anyone thought about trying Snipe Hunter u got alot of fodder gadgets even machina fort to help and plus ir could help gid rid of a annoying warning in future

[Mage Master]

so it's agreed that the only thing beneficial from HA04 is Genex Ally Birdbro and Triforce, mirite?
Trish >_>

[ThatKidThere]

I'm tryin to buy singles, Mage Master. It's been proven not every box has a trish =[

[bankotsu07]

so any comment

[Mage Master]

I'm tryin to buy singles, Mage Master. It's been proven not every box has a trish =[
Well your post didn't make that very clear so it was an honest mistake on my part.

[ThatKidThere]

Yeah I could have been more clear. My bad. Forgot I had money back from my tax return, will be posting a box opening later today.

[Alphamale]

has anyone thought about trying Snipe Hunter u got alot of fodder gadgets even machina fort to help and plus ir could help gid rid of a annoying warning in future
Test it out.

[555cookiez]

k I screwed around with it a little and this is my version
Monsters: 16
2 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Gearframe
1 Machina Force
1 Cyber Dragon
2 Red Gadget
2 Green Gadget
2 Yellow Gadget
2 Scrap Recycler
2 D.D. Warrior lady

Spells: 15
2 Solidarity
3 Smashing Ground
3 fissure
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Limiter Removal
1 Giant Trunade

Traps: 9
3 Dimensional Prison
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Mirror Force

Side deck:6 so far
2 Gozen Match
2 Necrovalley
2 consecrated light

[blockman11]

has anyone thought about trying Snipe Hunter u got alot of fodder gadgets even machina fort to help and plus ir could help gid rid of a annoying warning in future

I would just run Dust Tornado or even better 7 tools if u're afraid of warning. I mean u don't want to waste a summon bringing out Snipe Hunter when u could be dropping a gadget for a plus. Also wat if u don't have excess gadgets to ditch, and if u do have excess gadgets, why not ditch them for fortress instead, which I might add is an out to stardust and shi en, among others, that u would be targeting with Snipe Hunter anyway. Also of course Snipe Hunter is not even 100% accurate! I just don't see Snipe Hunter as being beneficial in anyway, it is in my opinion terrible ygos to play in Machina Gadget.

Additional Comment:

k I screwed around with it a little and this is my version

I really dislike the scrap recyclers, but if the work for u then.... Also 3x Fissure is definitely overboard. 1 is very good, 2 is decent 3 is completely unneeded, especially in a Solidarity build. As most of ur monsters will be able to run u opponents monster's down anyway. I think the fissures should be replaced by 7 tools to hit warnings and any other traps which would really hinder the beat down power of the deck. There are other things I dislike too but I really don't feel like going into an argument about Solidarity vs non-solidarity.....

[ThatKidThere]

HA04 Vid! (http://youtu.be/0Q51DZ6BrbQ)
Spoilers: might make a Birdbro build.

[alex01]

Not if you're good. The only cards that commonly see play that RFP are D. Prison and Bottomless. When you become a better player at this game, you'll learn to read those cards or force exchanges that leave you at the advantage in terms of Card Advantage (CA).

Remember, everytime someone Bottomless's or D. Prison's your gearframe, you've just won that exchange.


Well sure it hurts us alot when Fortress is gone but the deck itself has a lot of ins and outs to win duels just like when my opponent uses Prohibition and calls out fortress, I was still able to win with the "techs" that I put in the deck so ya. You should post up your deck so we can see on what we can fix on it.

Thanks both of you! I just felt once Fortress was gone it was all over! I was in a match with someone who had Macro Cosmos and Dimensional Fissure(think thats it) on the feild and I was pretty wary when to play my fortress!
The weekend just gone, I have bought another Machina structure deck, so i havn't tested it yet, but it looks like this

Monsters
2x Machina Fortress
2x Machina Gearframe
6x Gadgets
1x Cyber Valley
2x Cyber Dragon
2x Heavy Mech Support Platform
1x Blast Sphere
1x The Big Saturn
1x Armored Cybern
1x Machina Force
1x Shredder
1x Scrap Recycler

Spells
2x Shrink
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Fissure
2x Swords of Revealing Light
2x Solidarity

Traps
1x Time Machine
2x D Prison
2x Compulsory Evacuation Device
1x Rollout!
1x Metalmorph
1x Ceasefire
1x Widespread Ruin
1x Remote Revenge

Ok, rip it apart! :)

[Mage Master]

@TKT- Oh I hate you alright but it's more for pulling triple Birdman and Tri-Force than anything else. :D

Speaking of which, I'm looking for all of the above if anyone like cracks a case or whatever and ends up with any extras for trade.

[Cyberzilla]

TKT, you got some good pulls lol

[ThatKidThere]

@TKT- Oh I hate you alright but it's more for pulling triple Birdman and Tri-Force than anything else. :D

Speaking of which, I'm looking for all of the above if anyone like cracks a case or whatever and ends up with any extras for trade.

i went in fully expecting no trish and at least 2 birdman. as far as I know, I'm done with this set. If I do get some packs of it again and get some birdmans, I'll let you know.

[Eza2510]

I hate cards like trishula and the Rare Cyber Dragon where there's a 1 in 2 boxes chance of getting it. It's just ridiculous!

[vahallo]

trishula is acually 4/5 box chance

[UTurnMeOn]

Thanks both of you! I just felt once Fortress was gone it was all over! I was in a match with someone who had Macro Cosmos and Dimensional Fissure(think thats it) on the feild and I was pretty wary when to play my fortress!
The weekend just gone, I have bought another Machina structure deck, so i havn't tested it yet, but it looks like this

Monsters
2x Machina Fortress
2x Machina Gearframe
6x Gadgets
1x Cyber Valley
2x Cyber Dragon
2x Heavy Mech Support Platform
1x Blast Sphere
1x The Big Saturn
1x Armored Cybern
1x Machina Force
1x Shredder
1x Scrap Recycler

Spells
2x Shrink
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Fissure
2x Swords of Revealing Light
2x Solidarity

Traps
1x Time Machine
2x D Prison
2x Compulsory Evacuation Device
1x Rollout!
1x Metalmorph
1x Ceasefire
1x Widespread Ruin
1x Remote Revenge

Ok, rip it apart! :)

U shud maybe buy 1 more box for the triple gearframe and fortress and a third d prison, after u do that we'll fix ur deck even more
and also swords of revealing lights is limited

Additional Comment:

HA04 Vid! (http://youtu.be/0Q51DZ6BrbQ)
Spoilers: might make a Birdbro build.

Who ever was opening that pack was slow as fuuuck lol jk

Additional Comment:

im sigging this hahahhaha

lulz wuut?

[ThatKidThere]

Who ever was opening that pack was slow as fuuuck lol jk



I swear, those packs were like super glued together.

[vahallo]

pack number 3 was hella funny sorry

[alex01]

U shud maybe buy 1 more box for the triple gearframe and fortress and a third d prison, after u do that we'll fix ur deck even more
and also swords of revealing lights is limited



Yea im wondering whether to buy another deck or buy seperately. I will have to see whats cheaper :P
And thanks, completely forgot it was limited lol

[Paola_Sauzaxoxo]

How many bird mans are you guys running? Lol

[vahallo]

0, its the best way imo

[MADSCIENTIST]

i would run 2-3 birdman its up to you but i would need to see a decklist just to be sure

[vahallo]

it dont like birdman, it confflicts with the utter simplicity of the deck and just seems out of place

[MADSCIENTIST]

well you know sometimes simplicity isnt always the best thing

also you sig ........i dont know whether to be offended by the jewish comment or embrace it

[Eza2510]

I'd like to run 2 birdmen but I only have one and its working perfectly.

I'll have to try 2 and 3 first..

[555cookiez]

I really dislike the scrap recyclers, but if the work for u then.... Also 3x Fissure is definitely overboard. 1 is very good, 2 is decent 3 is completely unneeded, especially in a Solidarity build. As most of ur monsters will be able to run u opponents monster's down anyway. I think the fissures should be replaced by 7 tools to hit warnings and any other traps which would really hinder the beat down power of the deck. There are other things I dislike too but I really don't feel like going into an argument about Solidarity vs non-solidarity.....

the scrap recyclers I personally like becuz the send fortress to the grave,I discard two gadgets for fortress to ss and then recycler recycles my gadgets and I draw a card.I see your point about the fissures they were just filler I'll relplace them with seven tools.Thnx for the input!

[Xardas]

well you know sometimes simplicity isnt always the best thing

also you sig ........i dont know whether to be offended by the jewish comment or embrace it

Beautiful sig is beautiful.
If this offends you, do not watch Jimmy Carr's most offensive jokes...

[vahallo]

hey im part jewish to and i dont really care about my sig haha

[MADSCIENTIST]

meh whatever everyone cracks jokes about the jews until its time to get financial advice. but hey its cool this jew has 6 dualities and 5 warnings :D

anyway idk what i was doing but i get really bored didnt really put a lot of thought into it but whatever i havent posted a deck in like 2 months

monsters-21
3 gearframe
2 fortress
1 force
1 malefic cyber end
2 birdman
3 gadjiltron
2 Cyber Dragon
2 green
2 yellow
2 red
1 recycler

spells-14
2 overload
1 future
1 trunade
2 mst
1 poa
1 Dark Hole
1 limiter
1 BoM
1 reborn
3 Geartown

traps-7
2 trapstun
2 warning
1 solemn
1 seven tools
1 magical hats

[Reapex]

hey im part jewish

...fail...


Also, how the **** are Machina Gadgets Catholic while Stun Gadgets are Jews? =\

[MADSCIENTIST]

because nobody likes the jews just like nobody likes the gadjet stun matchup

[vahallo]

i didnt say the damn thing haha go ask the guys who said it

[Radant128]

3x Machina Fortress
1x Machina Force
1x Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

3x Machina Gearframe
2x Red Gadget
2x Yellow Gadget
2x Green Gadget
2x Genex Ally Birdman
3x Karakuri Ninja mdl 339 "Sazank"

3x Smashing Ground
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Giant Trunade
1x Dark Hole
1x Monster Reborn
1x Book of Moon
1x Pot of Avarice
1x Limiter Removal

1x Torrential Tribute
1x Mirror Force
1x Compulsory Evacuation Device
1x Bottomless Trap Hole
3x Dimensional Prison
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Royal Oppression

Access to Black Rose Dragon gives the deck a little extra in terms of monster based board removal but I still want to keep a nice amount of it there. But yeah, a friend of mine is getting a box of Hidden Arsenal 4 and he's gonna trade me some Birdman, hopefully.

[Alphamale]

Bought a blister to get 1 or two birdman.
0 birdman
1 Trishula

Happy but still bitter. Now, to keep up with my trend from HA1, I'm going to want a super rare, and get nothing but the money card.

I needs birdmen :(

[Jackel]

Bought a blister to get 1 or two birdman.
0 birdman
1 Trishula

Happy but still bitter. Now, to keep up with my trend from HA1, I'm going to want a super rare, and get nothing but the money card.

I needs birdmen :(

Trade it for a dozen birdman? Not a hard problem to solve.

[TimelessHero]

i bought 2 birdmans and 1 trifocre for 10 bucks.

btw if you gunna run gad dragons with machinas, take out the gadgets and add Gigantes and minefield drillers. Gigantes detroys all spell/trap cards so that mean Geartown, and minefield driler recycles your Geartown.

[Alphamale]

Trade it for a dozen birdman? Not a hard problem to solve.

Nah, gonna keep it in the extra deck and trade for the birdmans

[TimelessHero]

3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Peacekeeper
2 Machina Force
2 Genex ally birdman
2 Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
1 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
1 Minefieldriller
2 Gigantes
2 Cyber Dragon



3 Geartown
2 Terraforming
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
2 Double Cyclone
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Smashing Ground


1 Mirror Force
2 Trap Stun
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Magical cylinder

1 Brionic Dragon of the ice barrier
3 Genex ally triforce
1 Chimeritech fortress dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 blackrose dragon

[~NrvnqsrChaos~]

How effective are Meklords like Granel and Wisel in this deck? Anyone try them out yet?

[ThatKidThere]

How effective are Meklords like Granel and Wisel in this deck? Anyone try them out yet?

been meaning to test out just one Granel ∞ when it comes out.

[JadenSRB]

should i run 2x Xing Zhen Hu in main ?

[ThatKidThere]

should i run 2x Xing Zhen Hu in main ?

Sounds good, just with a bunch of 7tools and trap stuns this format, maybe. I guess it acts as a 141 in that situation.

[Xardas]

Yes bruvs, I went locals today, here is a short report :
Infernities (with 3 trishula)
4-2. All games were quite good but domination of either side in 4 out of 6 games was rather annoying.
Sabers
5-1
Not a problem there.
Six Samurai
4-1
Not much of a problem
Chaos Plants
2-0 Need more playtesting
Chaos
0-3
Someone tell me what to side against chaos please?

[ThatKidThere]

Yes bruvs, I went locals today, here is a short report :
Infernities (with 3 trishula)
4-2. All games were quite good but domination of either side in 4 out of 6 games was rather annoying.
Sabers
5-1
Not a problem there.
Six Samurai
4-1
Not much of a problem
Chaos Plants
2-0 Need more playtesting
Chaos
0-3
Someone tell me what to side against chaos please?

Chaos Hunter <_<
iron imprisoning wall
That's all I can think of.

[Xardas]

Well, my side so far is :
2 x TKRO
2 x Banisher
2 x NoC
2 x Dust Tornado
2 x Chain Disappearance
2 x Cyber Dragon
2 x Effect Veiler
1 x Sazank

So I do not know where I am going wrong :/

Additional Comment:

I forgot to mention, I did not side against infernities lol

[Jazriel]

What is this "Chaos" you speak of?

[Xardas]

Standard Chaos build. Dekoichis, Veilers, Cyber Dragons, Thunder Kings, Salvo.

[vahallo]

Well, my side so far is :
2 x TKRO
2 x Banisher
2 x NoC
2 x Dust Tornado
2 x Chain Disappearance
2 x Cyber Dragon
2 x Effect Veiler
1 x Sazank

So I do not know where I am going wrong :/

Additional Comment:

I forgot to mention, I did not side against infernities lol

haha thts almost my exact side except

-2 effect veiler
+ 2 king tiger

-1 cyber
-1 sazank

+2 zombie world

[Cyberzilla]

Chaos hunter is a cool card, better than IIW imo

[vahallo]

heremy agent angel deck if any of u wanna check oit out, its bad quality though hhaha idk why though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XunB0-5uNXI

[Radant128]

Chaos hunter is a cool card, better than IIW imo

That card is beastly. Not even gonna lie, that thing is a *****.

One of the cards I'm considering for the sideboard is Zombie-World. It's good in the Samurai match, it's good in the Karakuri-Machina-Plant match up (since they can't make Buriedo without a Machine-type non-tuner), it'll take away many of the power plays of Frogs, (since they can't tribute for RaiDa or Monarchs) and it's good in the Dragunity match up since it not only nerfs their field spell, but stops them from doing their nuttiness.

[UTurnMeOn]

...fail...


Also, how the **** are Machina Gadgets Catholic while Stun Gadgets are Jews? =\

Isn't Mkohl jewish maybe that's why.

[Cyberzilla]

That card is beastly. Not even gonna lie, that thing is a *****.

One of the cards I'm considering for the sideboard is Zombie-World. It's good in the Samurai match, it's good in the Karakuri-Machina-Plant match up (since they can't make Buriedo without a Machine-type non-tuner), it'll take away many of the power plays of Frogs, (since they can't tribute for RaiDa or Monarchs) and it's good in the Dragunity match up since it not only nerfs their field spell, but stops them from doing their nuttiness.

Zombie World is a great side imo

[vahallo]

and they cant CFD or System Down you lol.....thts the best reason

[Radant128]

Yeah, you're siding for their side as well as frequently for their main. One of the local stores I go to still has the Zombie structure so I'll grab one at some point if it's still there (or buy singles).

[Xardas]

Yeah, I like Zombie World. But it doesnt really work in KMPs lol.

[Radant128]

Yeah, I like Zombie World. But it doesnt really work in KMPs lol.

I said I'd side it against them and so they can't swarm and I can flip them the bird. :cool: I'm not currently playing KMP.

[Xardas]

Yeah, I am playing KMPs thats why Zombie World is not an option haha

[Radant128]

Yeah, I am playing KMPs thats why Zombie World is not an option haha

Do it anyway... Show the world how Chuck-Norris ballsy you are!

[blockman11]

Zombie World is good ygos.

Additional Comment:

I was ready to make kmp, but then trade my burei for a glow up bulb. It was a really though choose. Cause Burei is one of my fav cards in the game, but I've been wanting a glow up build every since it came out......

[UTurnMeOn]

Hey guys no lie but im kinda worried about scraps. They're going to get alot stronger when Extreme Victory comes out and I was kinda wondering what cards should I MAIN against them and stuff.

[Xardas]

Normal summon banisher, set 4.
<Scrap players looks at me with a : Are you ******* kidding me? face>
Next turn, normal summon Spirit Reaper, attack.
Scrap player scoops.

[UTurnMeOn]

Normal summon banisher, set 4.
<Scrap players looks at me with a : Are you ******* kidding me? face>
Next turn, normal summon Spirit Reaper, attack.
Scrap player scoops.

oh ya I remember someone over here was talking about maining double banisher and double spirit lol. Oh ya is it fair enough to main ddwl against them?

Additional Comment:

Omg super fail on my ass I used a 25 dollar ebay Gift Card and bought an ally genex birdman for 5 bucks and 2 genex ally triforce for 2 each. I had to give my friend the rest of the Gift Card because he used his paypal -_- man I really thought birdman would go up in price now its like 2 dollars in troll and toad =////////////////////////////////////////////

[Xardas]

Ah, the good times :D
It's fair enough, as long as you have some backrow, they are likely to go for backrow destruction first :)

[freakshow18]

could someone give me a agrro machina deck with birdman and a good side deck for a rigonals and tell me if i could win with no pod or if i should just use frognarchs ?

[vahallo]

lol frogarchs are terrible imo.

[Xardas]

Frognarchs = lol
They are so easy to side against, especially for machina.

[UTurnMeOn]

Ah, the good times :D
It's fair enough, as long as you have some backrow, they are likely to go for backrow destruction first :)

how bout TKRO they cant use scrap storm or scrap yard ima right?

[Xardas]

Why would they not be able to use scrapstorm? TKRO is still an amazing side as when you dont have oppression, you can go : lol negate.

[Mage Master]

Welp, I can get 3 Birdmen and a Tri-Force for about £8. Guess I don't need to buy packs after all.

[vahallo]

how much r DT birdmans right now?

[Xardas]

Welp, I can get 3 Birdmen and a Tri-Force for about £8. Guess I don't need to buy packs after all.

I am currently bidding on a playset, if I can get that for £3, score :D

[vahallo]

well im glad i got rid of my DT one for $12 :D

[Allen]

Im going out in a bit to buy some packs to get the last 2 birdmen I need. Also what is a decent machina(sort of budget) list for using birdman?

[vahallo]

machina in itself is the ultimate budget deck(aside from fish ftk). umm i dont like birdman but

monsters- 18
3 gearframe
3 fortress
1 peacekeeper
2 re
2 green
2 yellow
2 birdman
1 Card Trooper
2 Cyber Dragon

spells- 13
3 Solidarity
3 Smashing Ground
2 mst
1 limiter
1 book
1 reborn
1 trunade
1 Dark Hole

traps- 10
2 bottemless
2 compulse
2 Dust Tornado (amazing in main trust me)
1 Mirror Force
1 torrential
1 royal oppresion
1 Solemn Judgment



Additional Comment:

i got a birdman for 1 quid from a little kid on my street

[UTurnMeOn]

Why would they not be able to use scrapstorm? TKRO is still an amazing side as when you dont have oppression, you can go : lol negate.

they wont be able to draw a card =/

Additional Comment:

why is dust so good in main?

[ThatKidThere]

Who is gonna make thread 25? I would if I had a computer. On my iPhone right now. Won't be on a computer till 12:00AM PST.

[Kelvin838]

how many genex ally triforce should i put in the extra deck? this card looks awesome.

[Mage Master]

I wouldn't play more than one.

[Cyberzilla]

In solid birdman, you could run 2.

[blockman11]

OMG Finally getting to go to locals tomorrow after 3 weeks of work lol. Gotta get some birdmans and complete my playset of TKROs. and some triforces... I picked up Axel a while ago =P since it was for something random, and i might go into it once or something, it's a good card. Also wrong thread but WTF is cerrberal going for so cheap? It's a hugely broken card.

[UTurnMeOn]

OMG Finally getting to go to locals tomorrow after 3 weeks of work lol. Gotta get some birdmans and complete my playset of TKROs. and some triforces... I picked up Axel a while ago =P since it was for something random, and i might go into it once or something, it's a good card. Also wrong thread but WTF is cerrberal going for so cheap? It's a hugely broken card.

Because people be pulling them left and right just like Birdman T_T

[freakshow18]

so no one wants to help me :(

[UTurnMeOn]

so no one wants to help me :(

ya well just use a Solidarity build and then side into a stun or something. If I were you I would run the frognarchs lol

[Mage Master]

Reading through the thread before asking for help is a next level play that I wish more people would make.

[UTurnMeOn]

Someone make a new thread with a bad ass title!

[Kelvin838]

OMG Finally getting to go to locals tomorrow after 3 weeks of work lol. Gotta get some birdmans and complete my playset of TKROs. and some triforces... I picked up Axel a while ago =P since it was for something random, and i might go into it once or something, it's a good card. Also wrong thread but WTF is cerrberal going for so cheap? It's a hugely broken card.

it's not that cheap, it only went down $2.

[TimelessHero]

im going locals tmr and this is the deck im taking. or should i just scrap the Geartown stuff and put in the gadgets?

3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Peacekeeper
2 Machina Force
2 Genex ally birdman
2 Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
1 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
1 Minefieldriller
2 Gigantes
2 Cyber Dragon



3 Geartown
2 Terraforming
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
2 Double Cyclone
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Smashing Ground


1 Mirror Force
2 Trap Stun
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Magical cylinder

blackrose dragon
Ancient Fairy Dragon
genex ally triforce
Stardust Dragon
brionic

[Jazriel]

im going locals tmr and this is the deck im taking. or should i just scrap the Geartown stuff and put in the gadgets?

3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Peacekeeper
2 Machina Force
2 Genex ally birdman
2 Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
1 Malefic Cyber End Dragon
1 Minefieldriller
2 Gigantes
2 Cyber Dragon



3 Geartown
2 Terraforming
1 Limiter Removal
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
2 Double Cyclone
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Smashing Ground


1 Mirror Force
2 Trap Stun
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Magical cylinder

blackrose dragon
Ancient Fairy Dragon
genex ally triforce
Stardust Dragon
brionic


Or be good like me and run neither Geartown or Gadgets, and have **** matchups vs all the top decks, except maybe sabers.

Triple DDWL is too beast. I've been thinking of putting in a RotA for them for a while, but 3:1 is too few for me, so for my fourth warrior, I've been thinking of maining 1 Greenkappa. Anyone have any thoughts?

[TimelessHero]

i dont understand what you just said. run neither gadgets or Geartown? and what rota?

3 ddwl does sound beast though

[blockman11]

I would only run 2 ddwl, that's my perfered number. Tkro is AMAZING though....

[Katsuta]

While Gadgets are good for adding to your hand, the way the game is now is about useful hand advantage.

My build has sort of abandoned the Gadgets for now, until Exceed monsters show up.

Monsters: 20

3 Machina Fortress
3 Machina Gearframe
1 Machina Force
3 Genex Ally Birdman
2 Cyber Dragon
3 Thunder King Rai-Oh
3 Breaker the Magical Warrior
2 Effect Veiler

Spells: 8

1 Limiter Removal
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Giant Trunade
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Forbidden Lance

Traps: 12

2 Dimensional Prison
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
2 Dust Tornado
1 Trap Stun
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Royal Oppression

Extra: 15

1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Mist Wurm
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Thought Ruler Archfiend
2 Black Rose Dragon
2 Arcanite Magician
1 Genex Ally Triforce
1 Scrap Archfiend
1 Ancient Fairy Dragon
1 Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "Burei"
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Side: 15

2 D.D. Crow ( Used to be Power Filter, but after fighting Infernity yesterday I see this being necessary this format. =/ )
2 Chain Disappearance
2 Nobleman of Crossout
2 Puppet Plant
1 Effect Veiler
3 Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
3 Geartown

This build is highly Anti-meta and has shown to even compete with the beatsticks of Hero Beat with its 6 monster count of 1900 ATK monsters along with 2 2100 monsters. It can deal with Necrovalley and Oppression in 8 main deck answers. With 3 mained Breakers it also deals with obscure threats like Burn and Stall.

I also found that a first turn Breaker does a lot of weird Mind Game stuff with what cards your opponent sets turn 2.

[UTurnMeOn]

okay guys help me on this okay im trying to fit in 3 cards and this are my choices

3 DDWL
2 DDWL 1 Breaker
2 DDWL 1 Mole
2 DDWL 1 Cyber
2 DDWL 1 Penguin Soldier
2 DDWL 1 Dust Tornado
2 DDWL 1 CotH
2 DDWL 1 BoM
2 DDWL 1 Compulsory
2 Cyber 1 DDWL
2 Cyber 1 Breaker
2 Cyber 1 [insert s/t from above]

P.S I already main 1 Breaker

[Kelvin838]

for people running 3 birdman, does that create dead draws?

[Cyberzilla]

okay guys help me on this okay im trying to fit in 3 cards and this are my choices

3 DDWL
2 DDWL 1 Breaker
2 DDWL 1 Mole
2 DDWL 1 Cyber
2 DDWL 1 Penguin Soldier
2 DDWL 1 Dust Tornado
2 DDWL 1 CotH
2 DDWL 1 BoM
2 DDWL 1 Compulsory
2 Cyber 1 DDWL
2 Cyber 1 Breaker
2 Cyber 1 [insert s/t from above]

P.S I already main 1 Breaker

don't main more than 1 cyber, it will hurt you (from lots of experience)

[vahallo]

dont run birdman at all imo

[TimelessHero]

question: what is tkro and RoTa? and birdman dont usually end up as a dead draw. unless you have 0 cards on field and 0 cards in hand and you get him in your draw.

[UTurnMeOn]

question: what is tkro and RoTa? and birdman dont usually end up as a dead draw. unless you have 0 cards on field and 0 cards in hand and you get him in your draw.

TKRO is Thunderking Rai Oh and he is an African American descent. ROTA is Reinforment of the Army.

[vahallo]

TKRO is Thunderking Rai Oh and he is an African American descent. ROTA is Reinforment of the Army.

i kinda wanna sig tht but i have no room :(

[UTurnMeOn]

for people running 3 birdman, does that create dead draws?

Hey Kelvin I always see u making those card of the day videos and ya whats ur main deck?

Additional Comment:

don't main more than 1 cyber, it will hurt you (from lots of experience)

Idk people are dumb sometimes not to use my own Cyber Dragon against me =/ honestly my only problem is that I lack good beater monsters =/

[TimelessHero]

umm another question. how do you permantly put a quote on the bottom of your posts? like vahallo?

[Kelvin838]

Hey Kelvin I always see u making those card of the day videos and ya whats ur main deck?


either machina gadgets or flamvell monarch/synchro.

[UTurnMeOn]

umm another question. how do you permantly put a quote on the bottom of your posts? like vahallo?

ya i wana know that too lol

Additional Comment:

either machina gadgets or flamvell monarch/synchro.

how come I dont see a deck profile video about machina gadgets??

[Kelvin838]

how come I dont see a deck profile video about machina gadgets??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2rWg6ns6hI

i will update it someday.

[TimelessHero]

kelvin can we see your decklist? i need a deck for locals tmr, and im torn between machina town or machina gadgets