Freezing Flames

[Cross Fire88]

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4 Seel (2 Cold Breath 2 Double Headbut)
3 Dewgong (Freeze Lock)
4 Evee
3 Jolteon (Sand Storm)
2 Espeon (Sand Storm)
2 Wobbuffett
1 Zangoose

So it may seem like they are really flimsy but they actually work pretty good. Dewgong is the main Poke, Jolteon is to protect agianst steel. Wobbuffett is for Garde Ex. Electabuzz and Flareon werent needed that much in playtesting.

Energy 18
6 Water
6 Electric
4 Multi
2 Boost

Multi is good in this deck. Really helps with Wobbuffett. I completely dropped Electabuzz and Flareon. So fire wasnt needed.

Trainers 23
4 TV Reporter
4 Oak R.
2 Master Ball
3 Fisherman
3 Switch
3 Warp Point
2 Oran Berry
2 Town Volunteers


I think the trainers need the most help. If you guys have any opinions that would be great.

This is not my tournament deck, well actually its my second deck. My main deck is Cacturne Espeon. I had posted in the old forum and its record is almost unbelievable. It humbles Garde Ex. But I want to make this one pretty strong.

[Spiritual Rain]

-[2] Electric
-[2] ER2 (not enough to be effective)
-[2] Moo Moo Milk
+[4] Oran or [2/2] Potion/Oran...
IMO, Potion/Oran is more reliable
+[2] Copycat

[Zangoosed]

Theres too much going on in your deck for it to work, IMO. *shrugs*

[Cross Fire88]

Yea, thanks I never really used ER2 b4. I just kinda needed cards to fill up space and b somewhat effective at the same time. I never really used oran berry either. Ill try it.

Its not to much going on, if your fimilar with it you can win. All you have to is concentrate on getting Dewgong up and going. And the only time you need to focus on other stuff is when you see a Steel pokemon coming out or Garde Ex. Its really like two Evolution lines. Im doin playtestin today, and ill post the updates tonight. This deck will erase a lot of stuff if played right Especially Chicken/Eggs

Does anybody think i could make this deck tournament worthy. Tournaments are comin up and Id either run this or a Cacturne/Espeon deck that I have which is pretty good.

[Zangoosed]

I dont see how this could beat a Gardevoir/Gardevoir EX deck consistantly. Most good garde decks run both the EX version as well as the Ruby & Sapphire version.

Garde ex has 150 hp and can be powered up faster than your pokes with 80 hps and no Gardevoir power to get them going faster.

Sure you have Wobbuffet and Espeon but they can be OHKO'd by a Gardevoir from Ruby and Sapphire with one energy attached. An experienced player would just make sure they hit you before you could hit them.

You have a good deck, but not good enough to compete with the big archetypes, IMO.

I would consider dropping Dewgong altogether for the Ruby and Sapphire Wailord. Its first attack is all colorless and does 50 damage for less energy than Dewgong. Its HP are higher than Dewgong. And it can kill a Blaziken, the only fire pokemon that is tournament worthy, in one shot. And since its attack is colorless, you could just DROP all the water energy in your deck to make things smoother.

[Cardzmaster2004]

I'm raher confused as to which Espeon, Buzz, Dewgong, etc that you are using. It wouold be nice for you to edit the post and tell us which one you are using.

[Cross Fire88]

I edited it. Could you guys tell me what you think of the new deck?