ever regret tryin to help a noob?

[chocolate jesus]

so my friend brings this guy to our locals, after a sneek for trades, and hes been playing for a few months but is still a total noob.

he then asks us to help him with his deck and we give him lagit opinions and advice...however no matter wat we said he insisted on keeping his 48 sized phychic/archfreind/synchron/monarch deck (featuring 1 tyrant drgn) as is. and fought anything we said. so we ask why he even askd us to help, he then caved...

later that day he rebuild it back to its fail state and added more stuff from the sneek...

has this happend to u?

[ASSassiNATION=]]

Yes omg it's the worse. My friend recently started playing competitively and he has 2 decks: Spellcaster and dragons. First off his first tourney he went with spellcasters and I didn't get a chance to see it, so by the end of the tourney he goes 0-5. And I asked to see his deck and I'm like WTF is this ****?!!?!?!?! It was basically any magician you would see in Yugi's deck and any cute looking magician cards also....I then told him I would fix it and use some of my cards and then next week I gave him the deck and right before the tourney he adds most of his cards back so it was at like 56 card deck. I pretty much gave up on him, but I do want my cards I gave to him back.

P.S his dragon deck was worse had only FIVE level 4 or lower monsters and like 18 tribute monsters......

[chocolate jesus]

yeah we get alot of them at our locals but we also have really competitive people there too who take advantage.

[skull666388]

Heres the thing. In the competitive mindset, these guys are scrubs. but most of them are just kids trying to have a good time, not compete in a tournament. Alot of them don't have the money, or the interest to fund competitive play on there part. Obviously, you trey and help them, and they turn it down, but thats just because they like the cards for the sake of the cards, not for competitive combos and the like. If they complain about loosing, yes its there fault if you helped them, and they had all the cards in order, but still. I actually have a couple of decks I've made for fun. There not really build for competition. If I meet a scrub, I pull one of them out. You'd be surprised how happy some little kid can be, when he looses, but he got out Dark Magician or something.

[chocolate jesus]

Heres the thing. In the competitive mindset, these guys are scrubs. but most of them are just kids trying to have a good time, not compete in a tournament. Alot of them don't have the money, or the interest to fund competitive play on there part. Obviously, you trey and help them, and they turn it down, but thats just because they like the cards for the sake of the cards, not for competitive combos and the like. If they complain about loosing, yes its there fault if you helped them, and they had all the cards in order, but still. I actually have a couple of decks I've made for fun. There not really build for competition. If I meet a scrub, I pull one of them out. You'd be surprised how happy some little kid can be, when he looses, but he got out Dark Magician or something.

oh yeah i totaly agree. i too have fun decks (many actually and more to come) but wat i ment is someone who asks for ur help in order to become better dualist but then turn around and think they know beter then u do just cuz they see the tv show....

btw the noob was around 19-21 years old. not a kid :(

[skull666388]

oh yeah i totaly agree. i too have fun decks (many actually and more to come) but wat i ment is someone who asks for ur help in order to become better dualist but then turn around and think they know beter then u do just cuz they see the tv show....

btw the noob was around 19-21 years old. not a kid :(

Thats an entirely different story, and deserve to suffer... at least until they listen to you. That can get quite annoying. Getting your advice that you were asked to give shoved back in your face. But still, some people just like how they do things, even if it won't allow them to get better. >.>

[chocolate jesus]

yes i know its annoying and i was like that at one point too. but am now very open. but it seems odd how more people r like this nowadays. even on pojo exmp:

"hey can u rate my deck?"
"sure. try -2xxx -1xxx and try adding dark hole"
"well i want those IF blah blah. that card is trash theyll just use Starlight Road!!!"
"...."

lulz

any other storys guys?

[chocolate jesus]

haha another prob i had is that everyone in my group got 2-1 and went top8 except me cuz i only beat noobs who had low scores :(

[Silent-Magician]

I've honestly never topped at a tourney since I started playing the game. I eventually get paired with one or two of the noobs and don't have a problem winning because the main point of my deck tends to go off without a hitch.

I guess my question is, if you knew your opponent to be not a very good player, would you ask the judge/TO if you could use a different deck so you can give them a chance? Personally, it makes me feel bad when I beat noobs (kids or otherwise) with a proven meta deck/stratergy)

[skull666388]

If there paying the money to enter, its there fault. Most of these tourneys aren't cheap, with the exception of Locals, but anything goes there really. Also, I'm a noob... well, an oldbie who used to have little to no knowledge of the new stuff. Its been about 2 years since I got back in (I left before Yata lock time), and now I'm making most of my friends decks. Obviously I still put stuff up on here to get feedback, but I find myself acting like alot of the people. I like my deck the way it is, I will take your suggestions into consideration, but it doesn't mean there gonna be implemented. What I hate on here, are the noobs who give advice like their a bloody prophet, who don't know what there talking about. Then theres the ones that are just, "If you don't have 2 Solemn Warning, and Duality, your deck is doomed to fail, no exceptions".

[Epicake]

well the definition of noob is stupid.
if anyone is partially smart they'll look at the game and understand it.

[BumperNinja0058]

Yeah, quite a bit of the time.
One example could be way back when Retiari was released as a SCR, this guy traded off his Retiari for a bunch a Jank Holos that were like not even 10% of the value.

Or when I have to sit down and patiently explain that having 3x Blue-Eyes, 3x Red-Eyes, don't make a good deck. Tell the kid add some of these cards, and does he do it? No........

I mean, its not like I tell them to add 3x POD.

[tmetal5788]

I don't ever regret trying to help a Noob, but I can't sleep at night when I think about helping that Saibot.

[skull666388]

well the definition of noob is stupid.
if anyone is partially smart they'll look at the game and understand it.

wow, your a ****. The Definition of noob is a new player, the internets definition of a noob is someone stupid. You sir, should go back to 4chan. Sorry for getting off topic. Anyway, don't regret helping noobs out. They need to be helped, or they don't get better. Well, partially true. I feel sorry for myself, when I do to good a job and get trounced.

[Epicake]

wow, your a ****. The Definition of noob is a new player, the internets definition of a noob is someone stupid. You sir, should go back to 4chan. Sorry for getting off topic. Anyway, don't regret helping noobs out. They need to be helped, or they don't get better. Well, partially true. I feel sorry for myself, when I do to good a job and get trounced.

your opinion is your opinion "sir"

[instantwin]

i've played against some of these people a few times at locals

i feel bad when they just walk into all sorts of plays and take huge minuses and get completely destroyed :(

i try to help them if they ask for it, but their decks are just a huge mess and it's hard to fix it without replacing half the cards in the deck

[skull666388]

your opinion is your opinion "sir"

and nothing more, but granted I consider myself a noob because of the way I do things, I don't want this guy coming around an insulting, my, and half of the Yugioh population's intelligence. Its attitudes like that that give the "Competitive" side of any game a bad name.

[Epicake]

and nothing more, but granted I consider myself a noob because of the way I do things, I don't want this guy coming around an insulting, my, and half of the Yugioh population's intelligence. Its attitudes like that that give the "Competitive" side of any game a bad name.


but if you think about the game for more than like 10 seconds and not think about the card art like most noobs its logic.

noob = stupid UNTIL they understand the game

[The_Dark_Monarch]

so my friend brings this guy to our locals, after a sneek for trades, and hes been playing for a few months but is still a total noob.

he then asks us to help him with his deck and we give him lagit opinions and advice...however no matter wat we said he insisted on keeping his 48 sized phychic/archfreind/synchron/monarch deck (featuring 1 tyrant drgn) as is. and fought anything we said. so we ask why he even askd us to help, he then caved...

later that day he rebuild it back to its fail state and added more stuff from the sneek...

has this happend to u?

It has happened to me over and over, but I have no regrets.

I once gave a noob a lot of good cards for his deck. The next day, he traded them all for even more crap.

I also offered to help my daughter's friend with her ALO deck, but she refused my assistance. I then beat her 10 matches in a row and she quit.

People have tried to 'help' me, but if that help is '******* Fiends off and netdeck Glads/BW's/X-Sabers' my usual reply is 'thanks but no thanks'.

There are some basic 'ground rules' you must follow when it comes to helping noobs:

1. Never help them out unless they ask you to.

As you stated, the noob approached you, so you are well within your rights to say 'If you don't want to listen, then don't ask me in future'.

People's intentions may be good and all, but if noobs are not willing to be helped/not receptive to assistance, you will only be flogging a dead horse and end up getting annoyed.

Some people, like me, prefer to learn by ourselves through trial and error.
We don't care if we lose if we can actually learn from it, but we never give up.

Thus, I hardly ever ask for help/advice from anybody myself.
Of course, I am open to 'suggestions', just don't get offended if I don't adopt it. I will always be polite about it though and thank you for your time.

2. Understand that noobs only play for fun and they just like using certain cards. Winning is not important.

You can explain why cards like Dian Keto and Solemn Wishes are bad until you are blue in the face, but it will make no difference.

I remember playing heaps of LP gaining cards when I first started out. I learned that they were not useful after a few weeks and after many losses.

It's better if you duel them (and constantly beat them) to explain your point rather than saying 'card X is crap' because they will only fail to understand why it is.

Only by getting slaughtered match in and out, will it finally dawn on them. Then, they will do one of three things:

a. Adapt and use better cards,
b. Continue to run those cards and actually enjoy losing or
c. Quit the game.

3. Don't 'expect' anything from a noob.

If you give cards to a noob to help them out, they are theirs to do whatever the hell they want with.

If the noob decides to listen to you, that's a bonus. If they don't, just say 'ah well...maybe the next noob will benefit from my experience'.

Of course, I have tried to help my fair share of stubborn noobs, but for every one that I cannot help, there's one or two that I can and that kinda makes up for it.
Many just give up helping noobs after a few bad experiences, but I have patience.
In individual cases, this may wear pretty thin after some time, but not in the overall scheme of things.

I hope this has been informative.

[Squiddy]

It has happened to me over and over, but I have no regrets.

I once gave a noob a lot of good cards for his deck. The next day, he traded them all for even more crap.

I also offered to help my daughter's friend with her ALO deck, but she refused my assistance. I then beat her 10 matches in a row and she quit.

People have tried to 'help' me, but if that help is '******* Fiends off and netdeck Glads/BW's/X-Sabers' my usual reply is 'thanks but no thanks'.

There are some basic 'ground rules' you must follow when it comes to helping noobs:

1. Never help them out unless they ask you to.

As you stated, the noob approached you, so you are well within your rights to say 'If you don't want to listen, then don't ask me in future'.

People's intentions may be good and all, but if noobs are not willing to be helped/not receptive to assistance, you will only be flogging a dead horse and end up getting annoyed.

Some people, like me, prefer to learn by ourselves through trial and error.
We don't care if we lose if we can actually learn from it, but we never give up.

Thus, I hardly ever ask for help/advice from anybody myself.
Of course, I am open to 'suggestions', just don't get offended if I don't adopt it. I will always be polite about it though and thank you for your time.

2. Understand that noobs only play for fun and they just like using certain cards. Winning is not important.

You can explain why cards like Dian Keto and Solemn Wishes are bad until you are blue in the face, but it will make no difference.

I remember playing heaps of LP gaining cards when I first started out. I learned that they were not useful after a few weeks and after many losses.

It's better if you duel them (and constantly beat them) to explain your point rather than saying 'card X is crap' because they will only fail to understand why it is.

Only by getting slaughtered match in and out, will it finally dawn on them. Then, they will do one of three things:

a. Adapt and use better cards,
b. Continue to run those cards and actually enjoy losing or
c. Quit the game.

3. Don't 'expect' anything from a noob.

If you give cards to a noob to help them out, they are theirs to do whatever the hell they want with.

If the noob decides to listen to you, that's a bonus. If they don't, just say 'ah well...maybe the next noob will benefit from my experience'.

Of course, I have tried to help my fair share of stubborn noobs, but for every one that I cannot help, there's one or two that I can and that kinda makes up for it.
Many just give up helping noobs after a few bad experiences, but I have patience.
In individual cases, this may wear pretty thin after some time, but not in the overall scheme of things.

I hope this has been informative.

tl;dr
translatieon into english:

tooooo informetive for my liking

[ben7922]

I've honestly never topped at a tourney since I started playing the game. I eventually get paired with one or two of the noobs and don't have a problem winning because the main point of my deck tends to go off without a hitch.

I guess my question is, if you knew your opponent to be not a very good player, would you ask the judge/TO if you could use a different deck so you can give them a chance? Personally, it makes me feel bad when I beat noobs (kids or otherwise) with a proven meta deck/stratergy)

I feel bad when I vs noobs or scrubs or R-tards(actual ones). I'd like to also give them a chance with a less dangerous deck(don't enter with fun/testing decks). But it would be against rules, blah-blah-blah...

I top here and there and competitive group get annoyed and claim I sacked. Then I point out misplays that they made and chuckle to myself. Nothing like a $30 "original" deck beating a group of $700+ meta decks. Makes me proud to have those tops under my belt, not where the consistent winners(three guys) derp-derp one way street.


If there paying the money to enter, its there fault. Most of these tourneys aren't cheap, with the exception of Locals, but anything goes there really. Also, I'm a noob... well, an oldbie who used to have little to no knowledge of the new stuff. Its been about 2 years since I got back in (I left before Yata lock time), and now I'm making most of my friends decks. Obviously I still put stuff up on here to get feedback, but I find myself acting like alot of the people. I like my deck the way it is, I will take your suggestions into consideration, but it doesn't mean there gonna be implemented. What I hate on here, are the noobs who give advice like their a bloody prophet, who don't know what there talking about. Then theres the ones that are just, "If you don't have 2 Solemn Warning, and Duality, your deck is doomed to fail, no exceptions".

Could not agree more with that last part, but last time I posted something online got nothing but "Drop this fail deck" and "Run PC"(yes that long ago). I topped with that very deck(Freed Brave Wanderer/Return/Creator). It worked well, then one of those duels where the deck gives you no options. Then opponent went on to rub it in by saying "don't run dead draws" and what not... We had an argument where he left saying whatever.

Well put TDM, that is all I can say at the moment.

Now my post, there are times I regret and enjoyed helping noobs. Some of them became a good friend and a strong player, some scrub without any will to improve. Most of them CANNOT inflict a single point of damage*(let alone rarely kill anything) against my fun decks. All I do is face them here and there and try to speed up the learning process. I'll still try if they are willing to listen and pursue what they need(within budget, usually suggest easy pick-up cards). Online-wise, I try to get them to learn to limit the concepts of their decks. Usually doesn't work...

*Actually that would be impressive, but you know what I meant.

[The_Dark_Monarch]

tl;dr
translatieon into english:

tooooo informetive for my liking

*In Squiddy-Speak*

Thiz is teh articul 4rum...

Teh OP iz not a articul. Itz a shawt qwestyun.

I mayd it a articul buy my looooooong replie.

Tl;dr - beet noobs a lot til thay get it, coz tawking dose s***.

If u cbf reeding nything....wtf u doin in thiz seckshun neway?

[Primesghost]

*In Squiddy-Speak*

Thiz is teh articul 4rum...

Teh OP iz not a articul. Itz a shawt qwestyun.

I mayd it a articul buy my looooooong replie.

Tl;dr - beet noobs a lot til thay get it, coz tawking dose s***.

If u cbf reeding nything....wtf u doin in thiz seckshun neway?

http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/imagehosting/34514b5b4b8f83919.gif

So much win!

[Pocaro]

No0b is a midset, more than anything.

I've only been physically playing for 5 months or so, but all my friends play, and after years of discussing rulings, combos, deck strategies, and meta, I walked into the game knowing what is what, where and why.

I wouldn't consider myself a no0b, nor would anyone I play with (I hope), but I still make bad plays. That kind of thing comes with experience. Though, I can still give some of those guys a run for thier money. Some I just can't beat, but I'm by no means a bad player, just a "new" player.

No0bs that you all refer to are either people who like certain cards (Dragons, Dark Magician decks, etc) or just plain, old-fashioned Smacktards, the kind of people that, when you play them, you FEEL as stupid as they actually are.

[chocolate jesus]

well the definition of noob is stupid.
if anyone is partially smart they'll look at the game and understand it.

in no way did i mean that.

i concider a noob (in this thread at least) as a new player, to the game or competitive play, that r not experianced playing with or against meta. if anything its ignorance that they cant help. everyone was a noob at one point even me (though i started around 1997 i think :confused:)

a stupid player is someone that has this information and still cannot grab the concept of the game but think they know all, that the deck is always to blame, usually blame others of cheating to justify lost, etc... like those who think if they copy som champs deck and believe they play it the same and cant loose.

and ive seen vets do this more then noobs. :(

btw sometimes even judges dont entirely understand this game cuz of so many rules and new card txt.

[skull666388]

With such an ever changing game, its hard for anyone to keep up.

[chocolate jesus]

yeah tell me about it.

[Epicake]

in no way did i mean that.

i concider a noob (in this thread at least) as a new player, to the game or competitive play, that r not experianced playing with or against meta. if anything its ignorance that they cant help. everyone was a noob at one point even me (though i started around 1997 i think :confused:)

a stupid player is someone that has this information and still cannot grab the concept of the game but think they know all, that the deck is always to blame, usually blame others of cheating to justify lost, etc... like those who think if they copy som champs deck and believe they play it the same and cant loose.

and ive seen vets do this more then noobs. :(

btw sometimes even judges dont entirely understand this game cuz of so many rules and new card txt.


what im trying to say is that most noobs are stupid players to begin with, and instead of reading the card text and are rather looking at the pictures.

and i totally agree with the stupid player concept.

[Araym]

n00b or noob - a deragatory term used for someone that thinks they know everything yet truly knows nothing... these people usualy will not take advice from anyone simply because they think they are always right, they're usualy highly annoying...

newbie or newb - someone that is new to something, as in; this guy just started playing, he's a total newb but he'll get better with practice...


now for my story, as short as it is... i had this friend back in the old days of the game (LOB - DCR) that had a tendancy to run decks consisting of over 60 cards, i kept beating him consistantly with a Warrior Toolbox and he got frustrated and asked why he could never win against my little 40 card deck... well i tried to tell him that it's becuase his deck was too large, reducing his probability for good draws, and it had no consistancy whatsoever, i tried helping him thin out his deck but he was convinced that a bigger deck would give him more options... eventualy after several weeks of going back and forth with him about this he finaly just quit the game...

[Skylar93]

some people just really don't have common sense or any sense of strategy.
Common sense and strategy are kind of required to play yugioh.

[Vanguard Veteran]

n00b or noob - a deragatory term used for someone that thinks they know everything yet truly knows nothing... these people usualy will not take advice from anyone simply because they think they are always right, they're usualy highly annoying...

newbie or newb - someone that is new to something, as in; this guy just started playing, he's a total newb but he'll get better with practice...


now for my story, as short as it is... i had this friend back in the old days of the game (LOB - DCR) that had a tendancy to run decks consisting of over 60 cards, i kept beating him consistantly with a Warrior Toolbox and he got frustrated and asked why he could never win against my little 40 card deck... well i tried to tell him that it's becuase his deck was too large, reducing his probability for good draws, and it had no consistancy whatsoever, i tried helping him thin out his deck but he was convinced that a bigger deck would give him more options... eventualy after several weeks of going back and forth with him about this he finaly just quit the game...
LOL what a noob.

[thisvato516]

I don't ever regret trying to help a Noob, but I can't sleep at night when I think about helping that Saibot.

FAIL at life

[gigaswornchaos]

*In Squiddy-Speak*

Thiz is teh articul 4rum...

Teh OP iz not a articul. Itz a shawt qwestyun.

I mayd it a articul buy my looooooong replie.

Tl;dr - beet noobs a lot til thay get it, coz tawking dose s***.

If u cbf reeding nything....wtf u doin in thiz seckshun neway?

monarch u have won the thread im sigging this

[Epicake]

Damn you gigaswornchaos i clicked the egg.

Additional Comment:

dude seriously you fa*got how do i fix this.

[gigaswornchaos]

Damn you gigaswornchaos i clicked the egg.

Additional Comment:

dude seriously you fa*got how do i fix this.

fix what lol its some dragon thingy people do i joined the craze lol i think u goofed

[Epicake]

google chrome keeps crashing lol

[chocolate jesus]

n00b or noob - a deragatory term used for someone that thinks they know everything yet truly knows nothing... these people usualy will not take advice from anyone simply because they think they are always right, they're usualy highly annoying...

newbie or newb - someone that is new to something, as in; this guy just started playing, he's a total newb but he'll get better with practice...


now for my story, as short as it is... i had this friend back in the old days of the game (LOB - DCR) that had a tendancy to run decks consisting of over 60 cards, i kept beating him consistantly with a Warrior Toolbox and he got frustrated and asked why he could never win against my little 40 card deck... well i tried to tell him that it's becuase his deck was too large, reducing his probability for good draws, and it had no consistancy whatsoever, i tried helping him thin out his deck but he was convinced that a bigger deck would give him more options... eventualy after several weeks of going back and forth with him about this he finaly just quit the game...

well i guess we can use this definition lulz

usually wen we get newbs at locals they come alone or in groups of 5 or more. but they always have at least one noob among them (usually the self proclaimed "leader") theyr usually the noisy poser haha. one time one walkd in with his friends wearing a BEWD from the structure deck as a leckless. i lost it :D

[123wert50]

Once I helped some 8-year old at my locals and while I wasn't looking he stole my Doom Cals.

[Pocaro]

Once I helped some 8-year old at my locals and while I wasn't looking he stole my Doom Cals.

KILL HIM!

I hate that, you help someone, and they turn around and stab you in the back.

[Araym]

thieves are low, but those that prey on the kindness of others are the bottom of the filth-ridden bucket...

[IDropKickBabies]

I've helped two newbies out before.

First one was pretty cool. He ended up learning a lot about the game and wanted to play more competitively. At first, I gave him some D.D. cards for him to start out with and eventually we were able to make him a pretty good Six Sam deck. Unfortunately he moved away a few months ago and I haven't heard of him since then.

Second guy I kinda regret helping. He was a friend with the first d00d I helped, but this kid wasn't as into the game/as competitive as the first one. He had some water deck when I first met him but he wanted to make Glads. Little by little, he would get Glad stuff from others when he could. After a while, he had a pro Glad deck he could finally use. By 'pro' I mean, he ran and tagged for Gladiator Beast Andal. On occasion he'd use Secutor to get 2 Andals.
Since he was a friend of the other guy, I decided to help him out as well by giving him some Glad stuff I had at home that I wasn't using. The big stuff like Gyzarus and Herk as well as some of the other monster he didn't have like Laquari, Darius, Murmillo, Eq...the better half of the deck basically.
I gave all the cards I had to him so now he really had a pretty scary Glad deck, minus the Test Tigers. I told him he could have it all. How nice of me, right? The only thing he had to do was lend me the deck when I saw him if I wanted to use it (which I rarely wanted to use, but sometimes you just need to get the Glad within out of your system NAHMEEN?).
About a week later he loses the deck and just kinda shrugs it off. I didn't get mad at the guy or anything. I did give him the stuff after all...but if someone were to give me the better half of a deck I was making, I would at least do what I can to take care of the stuff.

Never giving anyone that many cards again, even if they weren't all that expensive.

[HighonPie]

wow, your a ****. The Definition of noob is a new player, the internets definition of a noob is someone stupid. You sir, should go back to 4chan. Sorry for getting off topic. Anyway, don't regret helping noobs out. They need to be helped, or they don't get better. Well, partially true. I feel sorry for myself, when I do to good a job and get trounced.

Sir, there's no need to get offended. "Newb," an abbreviation of "newbie," means one who is new at something. The corrupted forms n00b and noob mean one who is stupid or ignorant. Thus, calling someone an asteriskasteriskasteriskasterisk for equating a noob with stupidity is quite uncalled for. In short, newb =/= noob. And "noob" was not used until the Internet's wide usage, rendering your first point false.

[Epicake]

on topic:
i actually did help a newb once.
he was a nice guy and i gave him great deals on a trade we did so he could build blackwings. We hang out now, and i must say he has gotten 10x better.
he actually went 6-2 at a regionals where i went 4-4 (i was running a ****ty ass deck - SalvoDAD).

[chocolate jesus]

I've helped two newbies out before.

First one was pretty cool. He ended up learning a lot about the game and wanted to play more competitively. At first, I gave him some D.D. cards for him to start out with and eventually we were able to make him a pretty good Six Sam deck. Unfortunately he moved away a few months ago and I haven't heard of him since then.

Second guy I kinda regret helping. He was a friend with the first d00d I helped, but this kid wasn't as into the game/as competitive as the first one. He had some water deck when I first met him but he wanted to make Glads. Little by little, he would get Glad stuff from others when he could. After a while, he had a pro Glad deck he could finally use. By 'pro' I mean, he ran and tagged for Gladiator Beast Andal. On occasion he'd use Secutor to get 2 Andals.
Since he was a friend of the other guy, I decided to help him out as well by giving him some Glad stuff I had at home that I wasn't using. The big stuff like Gyzarus and Herk as well as some of the other monster he didn't have like Laquari, Darius, Murmillo, Eq...the better half of the deck basically.
I gave all the cards I had to him so now he really had a pretty scary Glad deck, minus the Test Tigers. I told him he could have it all. How nice of me, right? The only thing he had to do was lend me the deck when I saw him if I wanted to use it (which I rarely wanted to use, but sometimes you just need to get the Glad within out of your system NAHMEEN?).
About a week later he loses the deck and just kinda shrugs it off. I didn't get mad at the guy or anything. I did give him the stuff after all...but if someone were to give me the better half of a deck I was making, I would at least do what I can to take care of the stuff.

Never giving anyone that many cards again, even if they weren't all that expensive.

haha d00d

yeah we have one guy in our group who only plays for fun. the prob is he always asks for common card cuz a new deck hes buildin but only uses it for a bit then sells the deck for profit. i stoppd helping him cuz he just takes advantage.

[Vanguard Veteran]

haha d00d

yeah we have one guy in our group who only plays for fun. the prob is he always asks for common card cuz a new deck hes buildin but only uses it for a bit then sells the deck for profit. i stoppd helping him cuz he just takes advantage.

Who would buy a ****ty common deck?

[chocolate jesus]

where me and my friends live we have alot newbs. our locals r across town so only half of us go to compete. plus he takes staples that anyone can use. book of moons Mirror Force dprisson etc.

[Berlioz]

Who is this friend your referring to Jesus?

[chocolate jesus]

u... jk its he who wears hats.

[Berlioz]

Oh, the one that must not be spoken of as well as he who has left us O_O.

[chocolate jesus]

yeah that duchebag. u changed scary avi :(

so do u have a story to share with us about helping a noob, mi rey :3

[Berlioz]

Yeah my avy was giving me tier 1 hallucinations :(.

I have a story actually, back when I was in San Antonio my roomate used to play this game in high school. He decided to get back into this game so me being his buddy gave him alot of cards. One weekend I lent him 3 extra Allure of Darkness I had when it was hot for a tourney, when we got back I learned he had traded 1 of them for crappy stuff he liked.

Noobs dont know value of **** and just because they can't use something they trade it off for crap they can use and end up losing on a potential deal which could have netted them greater rewards. Also don't lend stuff out unless its someone you absolutely trust :(.

[chocolate jesus]

i agree.... remind me to get my desertapirs back wen we go sat

[Berlioz]

Assuming they go, I've seen them only once with Matt, I think they showed up for the sneak as was that guy that gave me Ehren cause I've never seen him before. He didn't really have **** so I know he was a noob.

[123wert50]

Oh yeah, once some kid tried to take my Monster Binder but I stopped him before he ran out the door.

[chocolate jesus]

Assuming they go, I've seen them only once with Matt, I think they showed up for the sneak as was that guy that gave me Ehren cause I've never seen him before. He didn't really have **** so I know he was a noob.

i got the cell number of the loud ring leader now that i think of it. btw i dont have **** and i dont think im a noob haha

[Berlioz]

I dont mean trades, noobs have good trades once in a while. I mean his deck was nothing, just a random assortment of caca much like Jerrys friend. Remember that?

[chocolate jesus]

yeah thats the guy i started the thread about hahahahahaha

[Vanguard Veteran]

Noobs are good for ripping lol

[Thebanlistsuxx]

sometimes when playing against them (for fun...).

After like the 4th time searching out a ruling from yu gi wikia, i completely lose interest in the game, dont concentrate anymore, misplay and then lose.
There are enough noobs that just copy tier 1 decks, so its not impossible to lose against a noob.

noobs are just annoying but i try to stay polite and friendly, just quitting is not an option.

[PandaMan]

I'm glad I don't have to deal with that stuff

[Nick8478]

This ten year old kid at locals today sold his freaking Emersblade for 33 STORE CREDIT, after the experienced ones of us told him it was worth 70. He sold it because he "Didn't want to build sabers" and several of us offered to trade him a better deal for it because of this.

He got a BWD Tin and a few CSOC packs. His best pull was a Rose Warrior of Revenge and Infernity Launcher. Freaking stupid kid.

[Vanguard Veteran]

LOL what a noob

[Sargeras]

can anyone say herp-a-derp cause i never would have made that mistake even as a newb

[Bastion]

I have a story you know those kids that are really into the show and want to be like the main charecter?

At my locals this kid loved Jaden from GX i saw him Trade one Dark Armed Dragon, Judgement Dragon and Mirror Force. In return he got 3 E-Hero Avian 3 Ehero Clayman and 3 E-hero Burstinatrix.

Even after i told him so many what your getting isn't even worth 1% of what your tradeing and keep in mind this is when these cards first came out.

Little kids should never really trade without supervision.

[AirUpThere!]

tired of helping people who don't listen

instead i just make fun of them

[Yussa Tampon]

tired of helping people who don't listen

instead i just make fun of them

What we do is innocent. Just for fun and nothing meant.

[chocolate jesus]

I have a story you know those kids that are really into the show and want to be like the main charecter?

At my locals this kid loved Jaden from GX i saw him Trade one Dark Armed Dragon, Judgement Dragon and Mirror Force. In return he got 3 E-Hero Avian 3 Ehero Clayman and 3 E-hero Burstinatrix.

Even after i told him so many what your getting isn't even worth 1% of what your tradeing and keep in mind this is when these cards first came out.

Little kids should never really trade without supervision.

or compete for that manner. ive seen sleazy guys just cheat theyr way through a match cuz the kids dont know better.

[Xylyze]

When I started playing ygos, everyone was a noob rolling starter deck Yugi or Joey decks, with a few cards added in. The lucky ones had starter deck Kaiba with a 3000 atk monster. I remember pulling a United We Stand from a booster pack and literally throwing it away because it was shiney but it was an equip card (equip cards are always a -1 lul. go figure)...

[RobK990]

Loaned my friend running a Chainburn deck my Gorz. He beat me using it.

[Vanguard Veteran]

I just trade them the **** I have that they want for thier good stuff.

[La+Ghost]

Sometimes, if it were to be a someone who refuses to listen to you.

[DrendDragonspawn]

Happens all the time.... All these middle-high school kids keep asking me to look at/fix their decks, and they just throw a tantrum when I break it down and tell them why it sucks, and what they can do to make it better, and half the time GIVE them the lower end stuff that would fix it, then they say that I don't know what I'm talking about, that I'm just cheating when I trounce them. I don't cheat. Period. It has been getting on my nerves lately.

[Vanguard Veteran]

Happens all the time.... All these middle-high school kids keep asking me to look at/fix their decks, and they just throw a tantrum when I break it down and tell them why it sucks, and what they can do to make it better, and half the time GIVE them the lower end stuff that would fix it, then they say that I don't know what I'm talking about, that I'm just cheating when I trounce them. I don't cheat. Period. It has been getting on my nerves lately.

Wow thats hilarious

[Pinkrzrh]

Oh man i was about to ask for help too !

[katamura]

I never help beginners because I was never helped when I first started playing.

It's a good experience for beginners to learn the game on their own and learn how to succeed in playing the game by themselves.

When it comes to trades, I hesitate to ripoff little kids but if the offer is ridiculous, then I will accept. But kids above the age of 12-14 are fair game because they should really know better.

[The_Dark_Monarch]

I used to help newbies all the time, but I don't anymore. I just don't have the patience for it like I used to and rather selfishly, I am too busy 'helping myself' now.

I don't rip them off or anything, it's just that I have my own circle of friends in this game now and I don't really talk to anybody outside of that.

It's not that I regret helping newbs/noobs, but I regret not minding my own business even more now as I get older (& somewhat wiser).

[Ganondorf]

Seems most of the time that they take advantage of your help.

I may have to be a bit harder on my giving aid.

[BananaHat]

Not really, usually they tend to seek help from others in any case. I give them tips most of the time try to steer them from getting ripped off.

[Ｄ－ＨＥＲＯ Ｂｌｏｏ－Ｄ]

well, i try to be nice to people, since 10% of my locals is small self-proclaimed "super awesome pros" and small kids, and 15% are noobs who i dont give a ** about, i try to help, but honestly, when you try to explain that Raptor Wing Strike is rubbish, and they give the stupidest ********* reasons against it, that gets on my nerves, on the trading side of it, i tend to be quite evil, traded a super dark armed for a super Foolish Burial... and so on and so forth...

[Wario]

Not really, usually they tend to seek help from others in any case. I give them tips most of the time try to steer them from getting ripped off.

D:?! Eh? Huh. Well then I'll rip off little kids out of your eyesight! Ohoho.
Kidding.

Yeah. Noobs um...no.
Newbies, yes. I...no. No helping noobs. ;-;
Most of the people I chat to are just newbies generally. I'm nice to them.

Newb = Newbie = New player, fresh into the game
Noob = Noob = Someone that pretends they're all that and refutes anything you try to help them with. ~_~

Geez. My friend came back from a giant break of yugioh so he could "Get back into it" even though he doesn't play competitively. I read that wrong. >_>

I pulled out my deck box full of staples and he like, yoinked half the stack. <_< And his deck....kinda screams "I play for fun anywho 8D"

I feel dumb. ;-;

[SkullBuster]

I get free useful Synchros for helping noobs. XD

*runs away!*

[irollonthefloor]

I rip noobs a lot but i also help them with decks and with my help they make decks that pown meh :(
i traded secret dad and raiza for caius :D

[Topf]

It all depends. When I was a noob some more experienced players at my locals helped me,then when new noobs came and I tried to help them it was stuff like this: Me: I Recomend you build a side deck. Noob: I Don't need one. Me: Trust me sides really help. Noob: My morphtronics (not even good ones) are to powerful for a side deck! However some went sucessfully.

[14robinli]

im not to good ant locals/ regionals but when i go to sneeks i usually do good one time my friend asked me how i did this. i told him that i had no problem seeing combos or building decks. it was getting cards that was the problem.
example
last regionals i went 2-5
last locals i went 2-2
(last torny was last year but i still go to a card shop once a month and duel/trade they just don't do ternys)
last sneek(starstrike) 5-2

also when i first started competitively it was the beginning of the synchro erra and i run a ****y hero deck. i got lucky and most of the people helped me out by telling me how to build decks i ussualy didn't think they new wat they were alking about. than they started to pwn me day in and out. after a couple of months of listening to them i started to get better cards and learnt how to build a better deck. eventually i started consistantly going 2-2. now i have an unfinished but usable infernity deck and can ceep up to the people at my new locals. sadly the old place closed down.

i always tell noobs wy story after they refuse to help me than wrek them afew times. after that they start to listen.

[chocolate jesus]

i told him that i had no problem seeing combos or building decks. it was getting cards that was the problem.



i totally agree. i lack funds to really make my decks the way i would run them. solem warnings would help along with other cards im after. but in the end this game is usually i rich mans game.

on subject ive seen people help a newby and the kid will reach a point that they beat their teacher. then the kid gets cocky and acts superior. this ever happen to u?

[KodiakZero]

Yeah, i used to but i dont do it so much anymore. My friend asks me for deck advice, or for me to build it. After i do and its working great, he tweeks it to "his" standards and loses, then gets upset. Pisses me off. When i was a kid and started out, i always declined help because i wouldnt learn anything. Maybe i should make that a quote.

Person; "Can you help me with my deck?"

Me; "Are you a noob?"

Person; "...?"

Me; "No, because you wouldn't learn anything if i did."

[OneUnknown]

I always felt very sad when I go against people who were noobs. I kept destroying them in Advanced (Yu-Jo Friendship OTK) They always ask for help, and I try to. Only issue is that some of their decks are SO bad, that I had to tell them to make one deck based on one card. As a result they did much better, but then became the biggest jerks to other new players saying they were so cool, and awesome. Until I then destroy them with my OTK deck making other players happy. I regret helping noobs out because instead of helping people I helped made selfish monsters.:(



Noobs kinda need to learn on their own too. For helping with decks, I try to be nice about it and offer suggestions while the noobs call me ignorant for "being mean". I'm not mean, I don't even make it sound mean. And I do go easy on them with my decks, but they take advantage of my genorsity and then make it all fun and games.

[Falco Breeze]

I've helped noobs, but they won't listen. I've been called a noob when I ran a Toon Synchro deck(Which actually won the tourny).

It's like noobs don't even listen to half the things you say.

Me:Hmm, lemme look at your deck.
Kid:It's the best deck ever.
Me: (in mind) Wow, this deck is really bad, 35 tribute monsters, 20 spells that don't even fit, and the rest are vanilla monsters that have less than 1200 ATK.
Me: (Out loud) Dude, cut off half the cards, and get some spells that do something.
Kid:What do you know? You're a terrible player at this game.
Me:Let's duel.
(1 minute, 30 seconds later)
Me:I win.
Kid:I still am better, you just got lucky.

Keep in mind I used a Toon deck.

[OneUnknown]

I've helped noobs, but they won't listen. I've been called a noob when I ran a Toon Synchro deck(Which actually won the tourny).

It's like noobs don't even listen to half the things you say.

Me:Hmm, lemme look at your deck.
Kid:It's the best deck ever.
Me: (in mind) Wow, this deck is really bad, 35 tribute monsters, 20 spells that don't even fit, and the rest are vanilla monsters that have less than 1200 ATK.
Me: (Out loud) Dude, cut off half the cards, and get some spells that do something.
Kid:What do you know? You're a terrible player at this game.
Me:Let's duel.
(1 minute, 30 seconds later)
Me:I win.
Kid:I still am better, you just got lucky.

Keep in mind I used a Toon deck.

Toon decks are amazing. That kid is cocky, he needs a OTK to the face. Better yet, he needs to get FTK'd to the face.

[Vanguard Veteran]

I try but they won't listen so I just rip them off.

[Luka Megurine]

I find that they'll only take your advice after they actually understand how the game works, at least that's how I learned. So I try not to throw too much at them in the beginning when I want to help, like taking out bulks of their deck and stuff.

[Wario]

I get free useful Synchros for helping noobs. XD

*runs away!*

Gimme some! *Runs after*
Lucky ya get something out of it. *Runs out of breath* ~_~
c: I do get a thank you or something.

And I unno if I already said this but, I'll hand them a card to complement their deck if they need it.

I don't run into that many noobs. It's probably just the places I play at.

[PetitMoth]

As someone who got back into the game in a very different age (synchros), I was totally clueless to the competitive scene of the game. I was lucky enough to have a lot of people willing to help out, or trade me cards I wanted to try out for old cards I really couldn't use. I still remember getting wide eyed looks the first few times I won with a Worm Zero/Evil Dragon OTK.

I've always been a bit cautious about helping people with their decks, because I'm still learning a lot, but I'd like to think I know a thing or two by this point.

It's always an awkward experience for me to play someone who uses a vanilla beatdown deck, especially a kid. I mean, I'll hold back on a lot of my summons and counters to make it an interesting game for both of us. If they like playing bad or unpopular monsters, they'll play them. They'll insist they can make them work until maybe they change it. I think it's just a natural order of learning in general; there's gotta be an effort on both sides.

[Skeletor]

I remember my noob deck from way back in the day. I had Dark Magician and Blue Eyes, and a bunch of other cards I like sacked into a 60 card deck. Later on though when I got Paladin of White Dragon and a few other cards I just made a deck centered around Blue-Eyes White Dragon. That was my first legit competitive deck. And I never got help from anyone on it. I just did it as I went.

But I do have people at locals come to me all the time asking for my input and how I can help them make their decks better. Most of these people are between the ages of 5 and 8. Some take my advice, and others get to confused by the mechanics of the game and decide to just lurk.

One kid who took my advice was running a Kuriboh deck, and didn't have Kuriboh LV10 or Transendient Wings. So I traded them to her three of each for a couple of her Tyrant Dragons and such. So once she had that, we thinned her deck down from 55 cards to 40. After some practice runs with his newly made deck, he gets the hang of it. Tournament starts and she goes x-1 in the tournament, only losing out to me and my Fabled Dark World deck. Oh and this kid was only 5 years old. I was very impressed by her.

Additional Comment:

I've helped noobs, but they won't listen. I've been called a noob when I ran a Toon Synchro deck(Which actually won the tourny).

It's like noobs don't even listen to half the things you say.

Me:Hmm, lemme look at your deck.
Kid:It's the best deck ever.
Me: (in mind) Wow, this deck is really bad, 35 tribute monsters, 20 spells that don't even fit, and the rest are vanilla monsters that have less than 1200 ATK.
Me: (Out loud) Dude, cut off half the cards, and get some spells that do something.
Kid:What do you know? You're a terrible player at this game.
Me:Let's duel.
(1 minute, 30 seconds later)
Me:I win.
Kid:I still am better, you just got lucky.

Keep in mind I used a Toon deck.

Ain't nothing wrong with Toon decks. I have a Flamvell Toon deck that has won me many local tournaments. For locals I generally play around with my fun decks because I know the level of competition isn't going to be so high.

[darknut79]

I used to, but it's rare that I help noobs now. I'll help kids because I have a soft spot for kids, but... Okay, here's an example. I have a friend in my school who's a senior (A.K.A. 2 years older than me.) He shows me a random pile of cards with Necrovalley, and a couple GK's thrown it. I ask him what it is. He tells me it's his GK deck. Needless to say, I facepalm. I look through his deck, take out about 30 cards, (Including such junk as Giant Soldier of Stone, Grave Lure, etc.) And tell him he doesn't need them, and I give him a list of what to get for GK's and tell him why each card is good. He tells me he cannot take the cards out because they are part of his "strategy." That day, I gave up on noobs. I help kids, I help my friends, and I help my GF. That is as far as I go.

[chocolate jesus]

I remember my noob deck from way back in the day. I had Dark Magician and Blue Eyes, and a bunch of other cards I like sacked into a 60 card deck. Later on though when I got Paladin of White Dragon and a few other cards I just made a deck centered around Blue-Eyes White Dragon. That was my first legit competitive deck. And I never got help from anyone on it. I just did it as I went.

But I do have people at locals come to me all the time asking for my input and how I can help them make their decks better. Most of these people are between the ages of 5 and 8. Some take my advice, and others get to confused by the mechanics of the game and decide to just lurk.

One kid who took my advice was running a Kuriboh deck, and didn't have Kuriboh LV10 or Transendient Wings. So I traded them to her three of each for a couple of her Tyrant Dragons and such. So once she had that, we thinned her deck down from 55 cards to 40. After some practice runs with his newly made deck, he gets the hang of it. Tournament starts and she goes x-1 in the tournament, only losing out to me and my Fabled Dark World deck. Oh and this kid was only 5 years old. I was very impressed by her.

Additional Comment:



Ain't nothing wrong with Toon decks. I have a Flamvell Toon deck that has won me many local tournaments. For locals I generally play around with my fun decks because I know the level of competition isn't going to be so high.

this made me smile.

i wish i was in ur situation sometimes. its bad where i play. a good example is when LSS first arrived there where like 5+ people running them

[BananaHat]

I regret helping this one kid out that messed up my trade for a solemn warning. I was pretty much guaranteed the card and then he goes and grabs the card to see what it was and some other ****** bag sees it and offers the kid i was trading a ****ty grave keeper deck and some generic synchro crap. None the less i lost the solemn and the kid got a **** trade for a deck that was worth 15 dollars at most(gravekeeper starter deck). Regardless the dumb ass who got the card ended up trading it for a common exodia deck and the kid who ended up with the solemn warning ended up trading it for a black wing mat..and the vendor made him throw in a star dust dragon. In the end i got the card but i had to pay cash instead of trade value which really pissed me off.

[The_Dark_Monarch]

As far as this whole thing goes...

Yes, I am a noob. Difference is, I never ask for help and therefore when it is 'volunteered', I will not listen.

I prefer to do things through trial and error as I am a kinesthetic learner. That's my way.

The only way anybody can 'help' noobs like us is by constantly handing us our arse on a plate through dueling. Only then will we realise that certain cards/strategies do not work and adjust our decks/playstyles accordingly.

The only difference between my type of noob and your general 'run of the mill' noob, is that I will not say my/anybody elses crap deck is 'great'.

If a noob asks for help and then refuses that help, they are bloody ignorant and beyond help. They deserve as much s*** as you can pile on them.

When they do not ask to be helped and you think you are doing the right thing by offering advice, don't get offended when you are told to mind your own business. That's just how it is.

[Solus]

I used to help newbies all the time, but I don't anymore. I just don't have the patience for it like I used to and rather selfishly, I am too busy 'helping myself' now.

I don't rip them off or anything, it's just that I have my own circle of friends in this game now and I don't really talk to anybody outside of that.

It's not that I regret helping newbs/noobs, but I regret not minding my own business even more now as I get older (& somewhat wiser).

No worries Monarch I'm helping (trying to atleast) the newbies nowadays, not that I'm not a noob myself but thats a diffrent story ^.^

(as in people tell me to get cards I can't get and then tell me I'm a noob for not getting those cards, or I'm a noob for not understanding some card rule clearly since I'm not native English)

[N.Nick]

Oh yeah , sometimes i find it pointless to explain why can't you summon 3 lvl 4+ monsters (vanilla) in first turn ... i mean ... come one read rules :\

[chocolate jesus]

Oh yeah , sometimes i find it pointless to explain why can't you summon 3 lvl 4+ monsters (vanilla) in first turn ... i mean ... come one read rules :\

"Screw the rules. I have money."

[N.Nick]

"Screw the rules. I have money."
I summon 3 Shapesnatch in first turn and attack for game because somehow i can do that and 1200x3 = 8000
/u mad

[chocolate jesus]

Kaiba- "Wait! How did you do that?!"

Yami Yugi~ "It's called cheating. Deal with it!"

[Valafar123]

You will not believe how many of these I have to deal with. I've become ruthless with my treatment.

I'll tell them up front that if they don't put the money in and don't listen to what I say, they'll get killed.

I'll normally set them up against a friend of mine, or I'll play them myself if I'm feeling mean.

It's normally slaughter.

They either:
a - Learn to do as I say and become very good players.
b - Don't learn and quit in a month.

[Rebirthflames]

I literally sold my machina deck for 25 bucks to a noob to help
Him out. It's was worth way more. Well I help out and one day I look throughout the deck and see **** like Naturia beans! WTF! I got pissed and told him to take em out.

[DDWhorriorLady]

I literally sold my machina deck for 25 bucks to a noob to help
Him out. It's was worth way more. Well I help out and one day I look throughout the deck and see **** like Naturia beans! WTF! I got pissed and told him to take em out.

Lmao .

[Radical Dreamer]

Usually I just tell the ones who don`t listen to other advice to just get one of the slightly outdated yugioh video games that usually go for 2-3 bucks online as to not embarass themselves any longer by not knowing any rules and give them the advice if they get destroyed by NPCs their deck probably still lacks something.

I also usually try to get 2-3 noobs together to playtest between themselves, since either someone will climb up the darwinistic ladder sooner or later.
Or at least all of them have fun playing against other craptastic fun-decks instead of being utterly destroyed by anyone else they play with who uses a coherent deck.

[darknut79]

I literally sold my machina deck for 25 bucks to a noob to help
Him out. It's was worth way more. Well I help out and one day I look throughout the deck and see **** like Naturia beans! WTF! I got pissed and told him to take em out.

Well, sounds like you learned your lesson.

[DDWhorriorLady]

I literally sold my machina deck for 25 bucks to a noob to help
Him out. It's was worth way more. Well I help out and one day I look throughout the deck and see **** like Naturia beans! WTF! I got pissed and told him to take em out.

You should steal it back just to teach him a lesson.

[Johnny K]

"SUMMONED SKULL IS BETTER THAN CAIUS YOU ****** ******"
11 year old at locals right there

[chocolate jesus]

"SUMMONED SKULL IS BETTER THAN CAIUS YOU ****** ******"
11 year old at locals right there

that kid was pro.

[Topf]

Just had one last Saturday:

"WHAT!? 60 Cards is wayyyyyyyyy better than 40!"
- Random noob

LOL.

[GanNing]

I LOL'd hard.....Been through this a few times.

[Johnny K]

"it's more fun to run 60 cards because something different happens every duel!"
Then I proceed to smash is Reptilianne, then Amazoness, then Fortune Lady, then Black Garden decks all in a row.

[Topf]

Another thing is a lot of times I fix noobs decks (Thin them and put cards that are in they're binder that they should be running in, that stuff) then next week the put it all back, I play them, and they say "Eh, I got unlucky",or "Eh, you got lucky".

[Valafar123]

Ugh, I have little tolerance for idiocy.

Luckily, I have had some star pupils and I usually use them for demonstrations. They normally lose. If they have the guts to face me, they normally get slaughtered.

[Rebirthflames]

I have a story you know those kids that are really into the show and want to be like the main charecter?

At my locals this kid loved Jaden from GX i saw him Trade one Dark Armed Dragon, Judgement Dragon and Mirror Force. In return he got 3 E-Hero Avian 3 Ehero Clayman and 3 E-hero Burstinatrix.

Even after i told him so many what your getting isn't even worth 1% of what your tradeing and keep in mind this is when these cards first came out.

Little kids should never really trade without supervision.

Hm? E heroes were out the same time as Mirror Force FIRST came
Out? Same with DAD and JD? weird!

[DDWhorriorLady]

Hm? E heroes were out the same time as Mirror Force FIRST came
Out? Same with DAD and JD? weird!

Maybe a reprint.

[Valafar123]

Small children should not play this game. Ironic really.

[Primesghost]

This weekend a kid had a mint Venominaga and one of our local "Rare Hunters" went after it. I called shenanigans and since the kid's mother was there, I went to talk to her about it (I'm a dad BTW, I play with my kids in locals). She straight up didn't care. She said they were his cards and he could trade them if he wanted. I told her the value of Venominage versus the low-end stuff her son was getting: "I really don't care, they're just cards."

Whatever, I traded three Jinzo (including alt. art signed version), Five-Headed Dragon and Formula Synchron for my tin Shooting Star and Red-Nova Dragons.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Meh this is why I don't really try to teach new players, a lot of people come into the game with pre-conceived notions that are not going to change no matter how many brutal beatdowns they receive.

[DDWhorriorLady]

Small children should not play this game. Ironic really.

Lol, that's ****, I say adults shouldn't be allowed to play.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Lol, that's ****, I say adults shouldn't be allowed to play.

Well to be honest, I've never met a kid under 12 who was any good at this game, that is to say I've never lost to a child younger than 12 before.

[DDWhorriorLady]

Well to be honest, I've never met a kid under 12 who was any good at this game, that is to say I've never lost to a child younger than 12 before.

Well yeah, that's why adults should be not allowed to play. Kind of how kids are not allowed to do adult stuff.

[The_Dark_Monarch]

Well yeah, that's why adults should be not allowed to play. Kind of how kids are not allowed to do adult stuff.
It's up to certain card stores/venues to have 'age restrictions' on their tournaments.

You cannot say that adults should not be allowed to play and you cannot say that kids should not be allowed to play. What is left? "this game is only suitable for those aged 13-17 years"? Not much room there.

I have come across venues with 'age limits' before (I am an adult duelist)....what do you know though? Those stores went out of business ages ago. ;)

[chocolate jesus]

this game should just be illegal everywhere. its evil. damn shadow realm.

[DDWhorriorLady]

It's up to certain card stores/venues to have 'age restrictions' on their tournaments.

You cannot say that adults should not be allowed to play and you cannot say that kids should not be allowed to play. What is left? "this game is only suitable for those aged 13-17 years"? Not much room there.

I have come across venues with 'age limits' before (I am an adult duelist)....what do you know though? Those stores went out of business ages ago. ;)

I see, maybe make an adult theme tourny I what you're saying. Strippers and buffets everywhere. Entry fee is $100 and the age minimum is 13 for boys an 18 for girls

[chocolate jesus]

I see, maybe make an adult theme tourny I what you're saying. Strippers and buffets everywhere. Entry fee is $10 and the age minimum is 21 for boys and 18 for girls (who get in free)

u had like 3 errors.

i fixed them for u.

[Titleist]

so my friend brings this guy to our locals, after a sneek for trades, and hes been playing for a few months but is still a total noob.

he then asks us to help him with his deck and we give him lagit opinions and advice...however no matter wat we said he insisted on keeping his 48 sized phychic/archfreind/synchron/monarch deck (featuring 1 tyrant drgn) as is. and fought anything we said. so we ask why he even askd us to help, he then caved...

later that day he rebuild it back to its fail state and added more stuff from the sneek...

has this happend to u?

When newbs ask for help and then don't take it, they become noobs.

[BlackRainbow1204]

It's up to certain card stores/venues to have 'age restrictions' on their tournaments.

You cannot say that adults should not be allowed to play and you cannot say that kids should not be allowed to play. What is left? "this game is only suitable for those aged 13-17 years"? Not much room there.

I have come across venues with 'age limits' before (I am an adult duelist)....what do you know though? Those stores went out of business ages ago. ;)

Wow, that's crazy. What could have made them think even for a second, that limiting you consumer base would be a good business move?

[bioober]

It's not really regretting, but I really get annoyed when they try to argue the same ruling multiple times to different people (mostly about missing the timing). It's just how the game is.

[JOEY777]

Omg I used to be THAT kid and after a couple of years my friends got it through my thick skull and now I have a semi-expensive deck (Karakuri) with a full extra-deck to boot, and a good binder. And I can clarify that all of the stuff you guys have said about said "n00bz" is true cuz I used to be one.

Now they say "What goes around comes around." My so called "de-n00binization" occured the beggining of my sophmore year of high-school (I'm a Junior now. I met my friend Josh that year when he moved to New Jersey. He found out I play and told me he used to play and that he was the best and has amazing cards and an unbeatable deck. So he came over my house and we duel, and what does he pull out on me you ask? the same thing every other noob has...DRAGONS! Lond story short I've thrashed him in every duel and still do to this day. However I got through to him faster than my friends did and the way I did it was by being a total ****** every time I won and he would try to make an excuse to why he lost and I wouldnt allow it and now he finally understands me and he built dragunities granted he still loses to me but he got alot better in only a couple of days so now its somewhat of a challenge beating him.

[RockTheRhythm]

Well yeah, that's why adults should be not allowed to play. Kind of how kids are not allowed to do adult stuff.

Too bad the demographic for this game hardly involves children under the age of 14. It's actually over the age of 20 for the majority.

With things like deck building, timing, rulings, synchros, fusions, ect... there's a lot for a young child to consider. That's why you don't see many kids beating the adults in this game. They hardly know any better and it's not as easy to learn, especially if you tried teaching a 12 year old a Dragunity deck.

... Good luck with that one.