The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

[AnalystDuelist]

Teaser from E3 today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahvo11jS50

Haven't looked yet, but heard the demo part was full of "it's not working" fail.

Anywho, comments, concerns, etc away!

[PhoenixZeroW]

Aww, beat me too it. It looks awesome, i like the blending of windwaker/twilight princess graphics.

[Zaffy]

Why? What happened with the demo? :(

[AnalystDuelist]

Why? What happened with the demo? :(

Oh, my error, I didn't mean the floor demo. I meant the press conference demonstration wherein the controls weren't really responding well.

[PhoenixZeroW]

it was so unresponsive. lol, it was funny cause the guy was all like " please turn off your electric devices ! I don't know what happened ! It was fine in rehearsal !"

[Zaffy]

Awh.

Well all I hope for is that the wiimote at the side doesn't stay there all the time.

[Fluffanator7777]

Yeah apparently there was some interference during the Press Demo.

But as I stated before. When playing Wii Sports: Resort you have to recalibrate the Wii Motion Plus once in awhile. So that might have been the case as well.

[Near]

Game looks amazing, both graphically and gameplay...y?
There's a bunch of videos showing people playing it and it looks to be very responsive, and I always felt the combat in Zelda was lacking so fixing it is a huge plus.

Oh also I lol at anyone who is actually disappointed by the looks of the game and wants more Twilight Princess.

[/Plant\]

This game is going to be freaking epic, maybe it might be Ocarina of Time... CURSE YOU WATER TEMPLE!!!

[PhoenixZeroW]

this game may be the earliest in the time line because SPOILER : at some point of time in the game, the skyward sword becomes the master sword.

[Masterdramon]

this game may be the earliest in the time line because SPOILER : at some point of time in the game, the skyward sword becomes the master sword.
That would probably make it second in the timeline, then, since Minish Cap uses the Picori Sword (later known as the Four Sword) and depicts the origin of Link's cap, which he is clearly wearing in Skyward Sword.

[PhoenixZeroW]

i would consider that an alternate universe, right ?

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actually, each game explains the respective link's suit.

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actually, each game explains the respective link's suit.

[Masterdramon]

i would consider that an alternate universe, right ?

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actually, each game explains the respective link's suit.

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actually, each game explains the respective link's suit.
Most of the games depict the clothes that Link takes on as traditional for the heroes of Hyrule - which means that the idea of "green tunic + cap" must have originated at some point prior to Ocarina of Time...or, if this information pans out, prior to Skyward Sword.

The opening sequence to Minish Cap explains this origin; the microscopic race known as the Minish fashioned the Picori Sword and gave it to Gustaph, the hero of men, so that he might end the rampant wars that went on between the races of Hyrule over the Triforce. Gustaph, who wore green but had no hat, did so, and was later crowned as the first King of Hyrule.

Many years later, the emergence of the evil Minish wizard Vaati forced a young boy in green clothes quite similar to Gustaph's to find the Picori Sword and defeat Vaati. Along this quest you are assisted by Vaati's old mentor Ezzlo, who has been transfigured into a talking cap by Vaati's magic. At the end of the game Ezzlo is resotred to his true form, but gives Link a similar (but nonliving) cap as a gift, saying that it "suits" him. The cap has been an integral part of the legendary hero's clothing ever since.

For this reason, most Zelda scholars believe that Minish Cap is the first game in the timeline. It depicts a Hyrule that has only somewhat recently united all the races into a single kingdom, and does not feature Ganondorf or the Master Sword in any way.

Based on this information, Skyward Sword should follow, and then Ocarina of Time should come after that. But after that...well, the Zelda timeline is quite a muddled thing, and while I have my own theory it varies quire wildly among fans.

But Minish Cap being first is one of the best-established pieces of the puzzle.

[PhoenixZeroW]

but that would make it fourth, since four swords and four swords adventures are direct sequels to the minish cap.

[Masterdramon]

but that would make it fourth, since four swords and four swords adventures are direct sequels to the minish cap.
Just because they feature the same graphics does not automatically make them so.

They can't possibly feature they same Link as Minish Cap does, as the Minish Cap Link is aware of Vaati being sealed in the Picori Sword (since he was there at the time).

Four Swords/Four Sword Adventures begin with a new Link accidentally releasing Vaati when he draws the Picori Sword to fight a new evil many generations later. If they had been direct sequels, Link would never have done this.

As such, those games must occur late enough in the timeline that Vaati has been largely forgotten.

[PhoenixZeroW]

but no other zeldas reference vaati or those events.

[Zaffy]

.... You're all nerds.

However I'm a nerd so I want to listen to this too.

I always imagined Link to the past being close to Minish cap due to the geography being pretty similar (Boggy area of Minish Forest has now become a lake, but that's all, and etc)

Shall a new thread be made?

[PhoenixZeroW]

no one seems excited by the oot 3-d thread i made...

[Zaffy]

no one seems excited by the oot 3-d thread i made...

Well though OoT is awesome, we've had the original, the gamecube version, and now this.

It'll need to be pretty iconic to make me excited about it.

[PhoenixZeroW]

this isn't just a remake, it's a remix.

[Masterdramon]

but no other zeldas reference vaati or those events.
Still, that has to be a different Link. Otherwise, how can you explain him suddenly forgetting that Vaati is sealed in the Picori Sword and drawing it anyway?

If Minish Cap is first in the timeline, then Vaati hasn't been heard about in other games because he was sealed even before the advent of Ganondorf, so several generations down the line no one remembers him.

This would explain why the Link in Four Swords/Four Sword Adventures was unaware of the consequences of drawing the Picori Sword, and did so.

.... You're all nerds.

However I'm a nerd so I want to listen to this too.

I always imagined Link to the past being close to Minish cap due to the geography being pretty similar (Boggy area of Minish Forest has now become a lake, but that's all, and etc)

Shall a new thread be made?
The only thing I can say for sure is that Four Sword Adventures must precede A Link to the Past, as the former depicts Ganon first getting his hands on the Trident of Power, which he uses as his principle weapon in A Link to the Past.

I have constructed a rough timeline based on such details, if anyone is interested in seeing it. This sort of stuff fascinates me.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm currently posting my theory in the new timeline thread.

[PhoenixZeroW]

sure. and nearly ALL games have a different link, save 4 swords/adventures, oot/mm, and ww/ph.

[AnalystDuelist]

Necro bump due to game coming out this sunday.

Minus Gamespot, reviews have been very good. Can't wait to pick this up at a midnight launch party this saturday. Craziest of things too, the collector's guide I ordered already arrived.

[superman]

I got the game on Sunday, I like it. I'm still stuck in the begining searching for my Crimson Loftwing.

[jaws_is_ra]

I find it bull No were and I repeat No were did Nintendo say you had to reserve the Limited ED version to get it. No store will be ordering more of them. I called Gamestop and a few others and they all say that they only order the amount for reserves. Now people are selling it on Ebay for twice what it is worth its value at 69.99 because that what you had to pay right now also being released Sunday and there it is Tuesday and Nintendo already say they would send out a 2nd shipment of them before X-Mas it should not be so high on ebay to get the limited ED. But people are wanting any were $100 to $300 for this game. Yes it is the last Wii Game being releases (I read it some were) but still this is bull People if you are going to buy it just to sell it then just sell it for the prices Nintendo listed it for not double or 3 times the amount and around the holidays.

[AnalystDuelist]

That sucks, Jaws. Hopefully that second shipment comes in soon.

As for the game, been working a lot, but managed to beat the first dungeon last night.

If I may impart one piece of advice, from reports I've been hearing online, get the Bug Net as soon as possible (should be available before entering the first dungeon), and always keep an eye throughout the game for Blue Birds, which are moderately rare. You'll need to catch them for their blue feathers, which are needed for upgrades.

[Justmcnew]

Yeah my family already ordered the game from GameStop, it's pretty awesome.

[jaws_is_ra]

1 of the Walmarts I talked to lied to me. They told me they are sold out. But it turns our Walmart will have the Limited ED in the black Friday sales at 59.99 ($10 cheaper) I am mad as hell because I went a head and bought the normal ED. I already told a few people I am reporting the Walmart for lieing to me about being sold out and 2nd for with holding prouduct just for the sale. a Friend of my called them today and asked them about it and they say after the sell what is left over will be put in storage till after the holidays and then re sold at $99 He is also filling a report with Walmart and Nintendo

[superman]

I'm enjoying this game very much. I honestly going to admit to this forum that I have not finished Twilight Princess. :D

[jaws_is_ra]

A freind of my went to a Walmart Friday to see if they had any. They put 1 copy out. He picked it up. The Wii remote that should be inside the box had been removed. He is calling nintendo and reporting the store. He also demanding they hand over the remote or he will sue them. I did not get a chance to go to my Walmat to see if they put any out. Even thought I bought the normal Ed I still plan on buying the limited ED if I find it for 69.99 All the ones on ebay are all out reagit and stuiped the game only been out for a week and some how it has went from having a value of $70 to a value of $150

After geting so far I have determend that Skyward Sword has to be before Marsh Ca

Spolier

The reson is Zelda Orgin is some what told in Skyward sword Hyrule is not called Hyrule any were in the game. Yes link is wearing his normal cap in the game but the game also says that green is this years color means each year the kinghts change color of what they wear It also gives a little bit more in the triforce and at the end Ganon birth is in its own way talked about and it could also mean the birth of Vaiit. At the end of the game both Link and Zelda are cursed this Curse could either mean the birth of Ganon or Vaiit.

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I beat Skyward sword this morning took me over 43 hrs to play the full game and get ever thing. + Get 9900 Rupess so I will say this This is a Long ass game. People who played it and say they beat it in 12 hrs How the hell did you do it

[AnalystDuelist]

I beat it earlier this week, probably tuesday. Haven't started Hero mode yet.

[jaws_is_ra]

I going to try and beat hero mode with a 100% under 20 hrs

[Fluffanator7777]

I'm going after the 3 Flames at the moment. Also be aware of the glitch when doing Hero mode. Don't go after the Thunder Dragon first, save him for last.

[AnalystDuelist]

I'm going after the 3 Flames at the moment. Also be aware of the glitch when doing Hero mode. Don't go after the Thunder Dragon first, save him for last.

Ah, thank you Fluff, I knew I had forgotten to mention the glitch.

So, when anyone gets to the Song of the Hero quest, while the game implies that you could get the song pieces in any order, game ending glitches (necessary cutscenes will not play) have occurred when folks have done the Lanayru part any time but the last.

For the interest of safety, do this route, which is guaranteed safe:
Faron, Eldin, Lanayru.

[opposite reality]

Pre-ordered the bundle at Walmart but I guess someone sold it it so I got the normal edition for free.

Just needed to buy a controller for it :o

[Fluffanator7777]

Yeah I hate the Sky Keep dungeon.

[AnalystDuelist]

Yeah I hate the Sky Keep dungeon.

That dungeon had potential with its gimmick, but yeah, it probably was my least favorite. Didn't even have a boss. Well, unless you count that spartan armored stalfos mini-boss.

[Fluffanator7777]

Any items in there other than the Triforce pieces.

[AnalystDuelist]

Any items in there other than the Triforce pieces.

Nope. Once you pick up the last piece, you get warped out of there and into a very long cinema scene. I'd recommend saving before you get that piece, just in case you get called away.

[Fluffanator7777]

Yeah I figure as much.

[Fluffanator7777]

Update: Nintendo has released a patch for Skyward Sword to download off the Wii Shop Channel. It's for free, so download it if you haven't already.

[Zaffy]

Update: Nintendo has released a patch for Skyward Sword to download off the Wii Shop Channel. It's for free, so download it if you haven't already.

What's it do?

[Sangaera]

What's it do?
Near the end of the game, you are given three tasks to do (obtain the Song of the Hero from the three dragons), and it says you can do them in any order. However, this proved not to be the case (http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1214090p1.html) and the game literally will not allow you to complete the other two parts. Which means you have to start the game all over if you saved at all during that quest.

The patch fixes it so that this doesn't happen.

[Lonely Wolf]

Near the end of the game, you are given three tasks to do (obtain the Song of the Hero from the three dragons), and it says you can do them in any order. However, this proved not to be the case (http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1214090p1.html) and the game literally will not allow you to complete the other two parts. Which means you have to start the game all over if you saved at all during that quest.

The patch fixes it so that this doesn't happen.

Wow, seriously? LOL. Guess I'm lucky I randomly did it in the right order.

[Fluffanator7777]

Which this patch proves to do. They could also release a patch for Metroid: Other M as well. There's a glitch with that game from what I heard too.

[xcrystalxservexx]

Which this patch proves to do. They could also release a patch for Metroid: Other M as well. There's a glitch with that game from what I heard too.

i forgot what but i think it was if you beat this one guy, and backtrack then some door will never open. i think you supposed to beat the thing, then keep playing. or vise versa. i dont know if they did it for metroid (the patch thing), but nintendo are zelda wanna bee's and doesnt like metroid. not that zelda was bad, they just over did it and now i, who did like zelda, really can careless about zelda and i dont want to see zelda anymore. they purposely made zelda annoying.



anyways the reason why i was going to post here, is to say we cant play skyward sword becuz we got the early versions of wii which my brother said, had trashy craptastic hard drives that wasnt supposed to last any longer then 3 years. and this was at christmass, so imagine the bs when the wii froze and kept freezing reading disks only right after, playing zelda skyward sword. the wii lens cleaning kit didnt do anything either. trust me, i cleaned the shell out of it.

anyways, im hoping to get a wii u on day one and i hope it wasnt crapped up like last time. i mean i always been a nintendo fan, until i got an xbox 360 elite, but i dont want anymore crap from nintendo. i want to play my wii games again bro's. and maybe give skyward sword a try. but i rather re-play the twilight princess though. dont get me started about the 3ds. i paid $250 for mine. never really liked it or used it besides to play music. and i seriously loved handhelds more then tv games. i just hope the wii u is okay.

[AnalystDuelist]

anyways the reason why i was going to post here, is to say we cant play skyward sword becuz we got the early versions of wii which my brother said, had trashy craptastic hard drives that wasnt supposed to last any longer then 3 years. and this was at christmass, so imagine the bs when the wii froze and kept freezing reading disks only right after, playing zelda skyward sword. the wii lens cleaning kit didnt do anything either. trust me, i cleaned the shell out of it.

Early versions of the Wii have difficulty with Dual Layer discs, such as Skyward Sword, Xenoblade, and Smash Bros. Brawl. So much so, that they cause the freezing and unable to read disc error.

Since your Wii fell victim to this, Nintendo can repair it for free. Just as I did with mine, you can contact their service number and state that this happened as a result of your early Wii with dual layer discs. They can have it fixed and back to you in about 2 weeks.

[Masterdramon]

Early versions of the Wii have difficulty with Dual Layer discs, such as Skyward Sword, Xenoblade, and Smash Bros. Brawl. So much so, that they cause the freezing and unable to read disc error.

Since your Wii fell victim to this, Nintendo can repair it for free. Just as I did with mine, you can contact their service number and state that this happened as a result of your early Wii with dual layer discs. They can have it fixed and back to you in about 2 weeks.
Not all of 'em, though. It's pretty much luck of the draw with the earliest release models.

I have a launch day Wii that hasn't had any issues with Dual Layer discs (or any significant issues, for that matter) to this day.