The dreaded "Ship" question...

[Pinkhairedbunny]

Out of curiousity what "ship" do you expect to see in the books in the future?

Most people take the safe route and say R/Hr but I think that's a smoke screen. JKR loves to mess with your mind. I believe it will be D/Hr.

Call me a sucker for a good old lost cause. :p

[morpheaus21]

If, Draco and Hermone, ever get together. :eek: I will personally beat J.k rowling over the head with books 1 through 7, and possibly get some of whatever she was smoking. Ron and Hermione forever!!! And Harry/Ginny :D .

[Village Dag]

I really don't give a damn about the couples. Romance sucks.

[PhoenixTail234]

someone is bitter... It's all about Hermione and Ron and Ginny and Harry, i agree with Morpheaus... except the smoking part... cough cough

[Overlord Zatenks]

Harry has no feelings toward Ginny. Given the fact that the books give Harry's point of view, it is more than obvious that Harry has not felt anything for anyone EXCEPT Cho, who he no longer likes. As much as I like the idea of Harry and Hermione, there just are not enough emotions coming from Harry. Unless Harry starts to develop feelings for Hermione and soon, Ron will have her. Though I am not sure how that would work out. Ron and Hermione disagree on a lot of things, and if in fact this far fetched theory that their bickering is flirting - which is bull since they are genuinely arguing and not being sarcastic - then I would speculate that they would be together for a rather short time before they broke up.

Simply stated, Hermione and Ron cannot become a couple, at least not in front of Harry. After losing Sirius, the kid is in a VERY bad and emotional place right now. The kid is ticked off more than ever, and if Hermione and Ron started a relationship, he would probably grow angry at them as they would be happy while he wallowed in misery.

My prediction? Hermione has an almost equal chance of ending up with Ron or Harry. Who it will be if either of them I cannot say. The amount of clues supporting both possible pairings has me getting dragged back and forth between the two couples. I cannot guess with any certainty as to who it might be. But I can say this, as everyone else knows, the beginning of book 6 is going to be VERY bad. I can only imagine what Harry is going to be like after losing Sirius. And I can only imagine how he would react to a Ron and Hermione pairing. Hopefully something cheers him up.

[PhoenixTail234]

When... and yes I'm saying when, Ron and Hermione get together it will happen gradually. It's not something that they're just going to jump into when the 6th book starts. And I wouldn't go to far as to say that Harry and Ron both have an equal shot with Hermione. I think Harry cares for Hermione on strictly a friendship basis or on the brother/sister level. I think Ron cares for Hermione in more of a Romanic way. The reason I think it will happen gradually is because, even though I think there's a lot of tension between Ron and Hermione, I think Ron still has a lot of growing up and maturing to do. But eventually Ron will grow up and they will be together.

And if Harry should develop some feelings for Hermione I think it would crush Ron, and I don't think that Harry would do that to Ron, Harry values his friendship with Ron too much to do that. And Ron deeply cares for Hermione and I think somewhere in his subconscious Harry is aware of this, and for that reason would never consider Hermione as anything more then a friend.

[Ace of Spades]

You ever seen those gushy chick flicks where there are the two people who hate each other and then they get into a big fight and then they just stop and start making out?

Ron/Hermione for me.

[Village Dag]

You ever seen those gushy chick flicks where there are the two people who hate each other and then they get into a big fight and then they just stop and start making out?

Ron/Hermione for me.

Those are just ridiculous.

[Overlord Zatenks]

Sorry, but the statement that Ron and Hermione argue because they care about eachother as more than friends is completely unfounded. You see tension because that is what you want to see. I once heard a Harry/Hermione shipper once say that if Ron and Hermione and have sexual tension, then Harry and Hermione are practically shagging in front of Ron. Once again, statements based on preference.

Quite frankly, there is no really any evidence for either side. Sorry, but saying that Ron and Hermione secretly like eachother because they argue all the time is just a crock of unsubstantiated bull. There is nothing to suggest that their bickering is anything more than just bickering. I have to see a single compelling argument from a Ron and Hermione shipper.

A Ron and Hermione shipper would say that Hermione acts more affectionate toward Harry because she sees him as a brother. A Harry and Hermione shipper could just as easily turn that around and say she does it because she likes him as more than a friend. The problem with this is that there is no evidence supporting either side. And because there is no evidence supporting either side, Hermione does have an EQUAL chance with both of them.

The best argument that Ron/Hermione shippers have - and it is a very weak one - is that Hermione likes Ron because she looked mad when Fleur kissed Ron and because Ron acted envious of Krum. Quite frankly, as compelling as you may THINK that argument sounds, I could just as easily flip.

As I said before, there is no solid evidence that they see eachother as any more than friends. So if they all see eachother as brothers and sisters, then Hermione's reaction could have been one of the protective sister and Ron's could have been of the protective brother. Sisters do get a little protective of their brothers when they try to date someone, and likewise for brothers. So their reactions fit within the realm of platonic friendship as well. Thus, it is MORE likely that their reactions were because of protective FRIENDSHIP than of infatuation. Ron, being as insecure as he is, may want Harry and Hermione all to himself given that they are the best friends he ever had. We all know that Ron is insecure and gets envious or jealous quite easily. So he could simply be trying to keep Hermione and Harry all to himself.

"And Ron deeply cares for Hermione and I think somewhere in his subconscious Harry is aware of this"I have particular dispute with this. Where is your proof? The books take place from Harry's point of view, and if the book did not note Harry being aware of any potential crush, then there is none. Harry is not "subconsciously" aware of anything. There is no canon proof of that. As far as the actual books are concerned as far as what has been said, thought, and done, Harry has no feelings for Hermione as a romantic interest. And Ron has no interest in Hermione. Sorry, but their arguing is not a sign of love. That is like saying that if a murderer kills someone, that he must love that person. It goes to show you that people will warp their reality to believe what they wish. Everything Ron and Hermione do would lead you to think that they almost hate eachother and only share a common friend, and yet Ron/Hermione shippers somehow have deluded themselves that because Ron and Hermione argue all the time, that they must be in love! Do you have any idea how backwards that sounds? Their arguments are rather bitter and serious. They do not quibble over small things and act sarcastic all the time. This is not 3rd grade teasing. This is bickering among TEENAGERS. 8 year olds tease the people they like. 15 year olds do not. When they disagree on something, they DISAGREE. If they went out, this would not change. They would STILL be arguing all the time. And sorry, but constant bickering and romantic relationships do not mesh well. That is what we call dysfunctional, which leads to BREAK UP when it comes to teenagers. So even if Ron and Hermione do hook up, it would not last long.

As far as I am concerned, none of them harbor romantic feelings for one another. It can be reasoned to a certain extent that Ron may be developing feelings for Hermione, but he has a hell of a way of showing it. Sorry, but you obviously do not understand the characters as well as you think if you honestly believe that Hermione would entertain the possibility of dating someone as childish as Ron. Sorry, but Ron has an aweful lot of maturing to do because he is nowhere NEAR Hermione's league. As for Harry, I think that Hermione acts so tender toward him because she knows that he has lived a life of a abuse and has never known true happiness in his life. THAT is probably why Hermione is so close to Harry. Ron is an insecure child with a massive inferiority complex, Harry is a scarred kid with unimaginable amounts of loss and healing to deal with, and Hermione is the only real mystery. No one truly understands Hermione just yet. Ron is quite two dimensional and is easy to figure out. He has an inferiority complex and is quite immature. Harry suffers from a lot of emotional issues that stem from his life of abuse and brushes with death. Hermione does not need to have patience for Ron's little fits of jealousy. But Harry is a different case. He has lived a very different life that neither of them could relate to, and has had to suffer more than they could imagine. So Hermione knows to be tender toward Harry because that is all he has and she probably understands that Harry needs to be dealt with differently.

As for Harry, I can only imagine what will happen in book 6. This will probably be the worst state we will have ever seen Harry in. Constant abuse by the Durselys, attempts on his life every year, a lack of any real happiness and the loss of the only father that he has ever known. It will not be pretty. So once again, I think that either of them could wind up with Hermione since there is no strong evidence for either side. Ron is too immature for Hermione, and Harry has far too much healing to do before he is ready for a relationship.

[Ace of Spades]

Those are just ridiculous.

I agree on that, though i still believe Ron/Hermione will be a couple.

[dementor]

i hate those too the romance movies good lord those are so stupid.hey harry ron or malfoy dont have a chance with 'hermy'.here's the stats





malfoy & pansy
ron & cho
harry & ginny
neville & hermy :eek:


if you dont like it.you can kiss my glass. :p

proud dark dragon member
taker easy if she's easy taker twice = my brother

[morpheaus21]

Well I don't like it, YOU CAN KISS MY BUTT this is directed to the guy who told us to kiss his but :p .Overlord zentek I think you entire argument was one big attempt to show, how much your opinion mean's to you.Who can say what is in harry's subconcious? We dont know everything he think's every moment of the day so you can't say that,in my opinion phoenix tail is right.

You say we're schewing reality, but the very word's from your mouth counter your arguement, (ron was jealous of krum not envious) and in book 5 he goes on to show more jealousy.By the way, don't exagerate ron's mental state so much, he may be in secure but he's not the 2 dimensonal child with a massive inferiority complex you make him out to be, (god!) talk about over analyzing, or maybe you just projecting.Hermione isn't much of a mystery, you just have to pay attention and learn to understand people and you will see that.But thank's for your very well written and thought out post.^_^

[RCG_]

the trump is how Hermione feels. I agree Ronis starting to like Hermione....but for some reason everyone assumes Hermione HAS to feel the same way. There is not once sentence in the books that can give any sort of conclusion that Hermione is leaning toward Ron in a romantic connection.

The main problem I have with R/Hr is that Harry would have to witness EVERYTHING for R/Hr to develop! If they have a date, he'd have to see it or one of them would have to tell him when, what, where, and why. This whole book is entirely from Harry's perspective, so a relationship between Ron and Hermione just isn't plausibly possible.

[morpheaus21]

Why not? Certain parts of the books have been told from other perspective's, small parts yes, but who knows? And why can't harry just observe suspicious behavior, in the way that ron and harry did in the prisoner of azkaban form hermione,? That would be easy enough, and make sense, as they may want to hide their relationship form harry.

[NevrMore]

To morpheaus about Zatenk's post:

Obviously that entire argument was an attempt to try and look smart. Overlord Zatenks doesn't debate because he wants to look cool, he debates because he wants to prove his point.

Now onto your argument.

Who can say what is in harry's subconcious? We dont know everything he think's every moment of the day so you can't say that,in my opinion phoenix tail is right.

We would know everything Harry thinks. Because it's in his perspective. The first thing that comes to his mind, we know. You can't possibly argue this fact.

You say we're schewing reality, but the very word's from your mouth counter your arguement, (ron was jealous of krum not envious) and in book 5 he goes on to show more jealousy.

Saying that Ron was jealous, not envious, is void because jealousy and envy mean the exact same thing. Don't believe me? go check any thesaurus and it will say jealous and envious are synonomous.

By the way, don't exagerate ron's mental state so much, he may be in secure but he's not the 2 dimensonal child with a massive inferiority complex you make him out to be, (god!) talk about over analyzing, or maybe you just projecting.

Ron is a 2 dimensional child with an inferiority complex. He's the youngest of all his brothers, who always get all the attention (Percy was a prefect, Fred and George are troublemakers, et cetera) while he's left with all their bad hand-me-downs, and then when he finally gets a time to shine by going to Hogwarts, he gets overcast by his two best friends. That would put an inferiority complex on anyone, and if it didn't, then they need to be admitted to an insane asylum, or put on show.

Also, he's 2 dimensional because...he's just not that interesting. His main role nowadays seems to be watch Harry do everything and Hermione figure everything out while he sits back and goes "Bloody hell!". I've seen zero character development from him, unless you'd like to point it out. You can set your watch to this kid's reactions. Seriously, I've been able to close my eyes and know exactly what Ron would say before I even read it. If that's not predictable, I don't know what is.

Hermione isn't much of a mystery, (could i get some of what your smoking? :p ), you just have to pay attention and learn to understand people and you will see that.But thank's for your very well written and thought out post.^_^[/

Hermione is a mystery. The only hard facts we know about her is that she was muggle-born, and that her dad is a dentist. That's it. Ron has what? 10 members of his immediate family? And we know everything about them. Do we even know Hermione's parents' names? We can't pry into her thoughts. She's an enigma.You can see her, and you think you know all about her, but when you think about it, the most you know is her last name. I'd call that pretty mysterious.

[morpheaus21]

Well thats your opinion, thanks.Have fun responding to this.I always enjoy a good argument. ;) ^_^

[PhoenixTail234]

Most of you just need to GROW UP. If you have a problem with the Ron and Hermione theory take it up with JKR, or quit whining about it. She's said it herself... Ron and Hermione are more likely then Harry and Hermione. And yeah ok, maybe you're right, that's not solid foundation that anything will even happen between them. But if you guys won't listen to the AUTHOR then you have the inferiority complex...

[Village Dag]

Most of you just need to GROW UP. If you have a problem with the Ron and Hermione theory take it up with JKR, or quit whining about it. She's said it herself... Ron and Hermione are more likely then Harry and Hermione. And yeah ok, maybe you're right, that's not solid foundation that anything will even happen between them. But if you guys won't listen to the AUTHOR then you have the inferiority complex...

Damn $*$*$*$*ing straight! And you RCG are one of these guys Phoenix is talking about.

[morpheaus21]

Hey guys maybe, umm you should listen to the lady.You boy's should grow up you can't even make an original argument. hahaha.6_6 I THINK PHOENIX TAIL is right though jk has been quoted as saying Ron and hermione have a better chance then harry/hermione.

[NevrMore]

Hey guys maybe, umm you should listen to the lady.You boy's should grow up you can't even make an original argument. hahaha.6_6 I THINK PHOENIX TAIL is right though jk has been quoted as saying Ron and hermione have a better chance then harry/hermione.

Who are you to talk? Your best argument is "OH MY GOD! stop makiing Ron out to have an inferiority complex!"

That's it. No evidence, no anything. Then when I make an argument, you act like it didn't mean anything. Check yourself before saying something, because you're a...uhh..what are people who go against what they preach? Oh, that's right, a hypocrite.

[Overlord Zatenks]

Forgive me if I seem a little bit slow, but I fail to see the correlation between needing to grow up and rebutting a rather feeble argument. No one here has yet to jump up and down over their favorite "ship&", they have merely - the intelligent ones anyway - provided canon support for their perspective. Thus, telling people they need to grow up is unwarranted. If anything, it is you Ron/Hermione shippers, as it is clear that is what you are, that need to grow up. You overreact and generally get quite grump when anyone opposes you and then you accuse others of being immature when they have done nothing other than use a preponderance of evidence to support their case.

Thus, your statement is invalid. Not only is it hypocritical, as Nevrmore so kindly pointed out, but it is utter nonsense. And given the fact that I am older than the majority of the people on Pojo, you are in no position to tell me to grow up. And quite frankly, I could not care less if Ron ended up with Hermione. While my preference would be for Harry and Hermione to enter a romantic relationship, my entire world will not shatter over a pair of fictional characters. Sorry, but I have more important things to care about. Never the less, that does not imply that I will not disprove a faulty statement when I see one. If you were any good at reading, you would have noticed I spoke against the "evidence" for both ships. Thus you cannot accuse me of bias. Again, this is the bastion of the immaturity you attempted to project onto us.

If you can point out a single instance within this topic in which myself, RCG, or Nevrmore acted in an infantile manner, I would be delighted to see it. Until then, have a nice day.

[PhoenixTail234]

Forgive me for telling everyone to grow up. I was merely trying to point out the fact that on more then one occasion JK has said it’s more likely for Ron and Hermione to develop a Romanic relationship then Harry and Hermione.

[morpheaus21]

Hi. overlord you like to use big words dont you? Hmm, I'm sure you'll find a way to respond to that, but if you are older and more mature why do you keep reasponding to us? Man, you have the complex i think, the very fact that you think your age makes you more mature is evidence of that.If you don't care about ron and hermione why do you keep posting?! Oh and yes i'm very immature thats why you can't stop me i'll keep coming back.lol ^_^

[NevrMore]

Hi. overlord you like to use big words dont you? Hmm, I'm sure you'll find a way to respond to that, but if you are older and more mature why do you keep reasponding to us? Man, you have the complex i think, the very fact that you think your age makes you more mature is evidence of that.If you don't care about ron and hermione why do you keep posting?! Oh and yes i'm very immature thats why you can't stop me i'll keep coming back.lol ^_^

He uses big words because that's his vocabulary. He keeps responding to you because, like I said, he likes to debate.

Listen, say you didn't care about Superman, but you heard someone say that Superman is weakened by water, and you knew for a fact that wasn't true, would you correct them or just ignore it?

And yes, you are quite immature. The horrible grammar, internet abbreviations and anime smilies are proof of that.

[Linzoy]

Zatenks, I envy your ability to write really long posts.

I always assumed that harry, ron, and hermione all have some kind of inferiority complex, that's why they get along well. There isn't much known about hermione but it seems like she's more intrested in proving herself than she is about actually learning. That's why she tried to take muggle studies in book 3.

[Overlord Zatenks]

Not to worry Lindsay, the ability to write long winded posts is not all it is cracked up to be...unless of course you wish to verbally humiliate someone. Between you and me, I would be surprised if people actually read the longer posts in their entirety. And speaking of long posts, here comes another one.

The reason why Harry, Hermione, and Ron get along so well - or at least Harry and Hermione - is because they are bound by traumatic experiences. Harry befriended Ron and defended him against Malfoy, and thus their friendship sparked. In the case of Hermione, Harry remembered her when the troll came and saved her life. Thus, she befriended them as a result. And as they fought Voldemort or whomever together, it strengthened their friendship. No matter where they disagreed, at the root of it all they loved each other and were always there when it counted. And that is a bond that could have never been broken.

Now the only person who has an inferiority complex is Ron. And being overshadowed by both his best friends and his brothers, that tends to happen as Nevrmore eloquently stated. Now come Goblet of Fire, it was a major hit to Ron when Harry was put in the spotlight AGAIN while Ron was left in the dust. That is why it was a big to him to be a Prefect and to be successful at Quidditch. Ron has rather fragile sensibilities, and thus he possesses the said inferiority complex. This also makes him rather insecure of course, as he feels that he has not done anything significant enough to base his self esteem on.

Ron desires accomplishments that separate him from Harry. He wants to make his own mark; his own turn to shine. That is why it was a big deal to him when they won the Quidditch game because of him.

As for Harry, I can only feel sorry for him. He has lived his entire life abused by the Durselys. Vernon and Petunia offered him little food and did not do much else besides vilify him. Then as soon as he arrives at Hogwarts, someone is already out to kill him. He is always under constant scrutiny and all he ever wanted was to have a normal family and find happiness. And quite frankly, Harry has yet to experience true happiness. Even Cho could not give him that. This is why Harry has such a short temper, and rightfully so. Now that he is a wizard, he does not have to just take it like he did with the Durselys. It gives him power over his own destiny, at least to a certain extent. And now that he knows of prophecy and has lost the only father he has ever known, he is going to be in some serious mental anguish come book six. Hermione and Ron are going to have to give all the moral support they can muster otherwise Harry is just going to lose interest in trying to live anymore and will want it all to end.

I would guess that he is going to feel that trying to live a normal life - at least by wizarding standards - is pretty pointless since he is doomed to have to kill or be killed and never get any respect or love for it, except from Hermione and Ron. People are always out to get him, and I think that this will really come to a head in book six.

Now as for Hermione, she is a mystery. We do not know much about her or about what her true feelings are. From what I have seen in the books so far, it can be deduced that Hermione is self conscious of her Muggle heritage and is thus compelled to prove herself to everyone else that she can be even better than a pure blood and not trailing behind in the dust. I think that Hermione puts a high standard on herself to perform, so that she is not considered pathetic like every other Muggle born. The thing is, that only gives us a look into her motivation. It still does not give us very much insight into what she is feelings, or whether or not she possesses romantic feelings toward Ron and Harry.

I think that Ron is Harry's best friend in the world, but that Hermione completes Harry and in doing so has her own special place in his heart just like Ron does. I mean when you think about it, Hermione keeps Harry balanced. She keeps him from getting too impulsive; she has been Harry's conscience for as long as he has known her. That is a very powerful thing. Hermione really does keep Harry balanced. Even JKR herself has said that Harry needs Hermione badly. Keyword: BADLY. Harry would not be complete without her. Ron does not do this. I think that presents a very dynamic relationship. In this way, Ron and Hermione are NOT the same thing to Harry. Ron is Harry's best friend and loyal supporter who he can always count on when it counts. Hermione is his conscience; the person that keeps him in check and balanced at all times so that he does not act impulsive and go crazy. Without Ron and Hermione, Harry's world would shatter. This is why neither of them can die. Even with Voldemort gone, the Harry we know would be gone if either of them perished.

I think that Ron may be starting to like Hermione because that is what he is settling for. I think that because he feels low and inferior, that the only person he has a chance with is his best friend, who has no choice but to deal with him since they share a common friend. It would not occur to him to seek someone else because he probably thinks that anyone else would be out of his league, even though Hermione IS leagues above him in the maturity department.

Harry clearly feels nothing for anyone, so that is a no brainer. We know that he no longer likes Cho, and we also know that he has a soft spot for Hermione. When he will speak to no one else, Hermione always manages to get through to him somehow. When he secluded himself with Buckbeak at Grimmauld Place, only Hermione could get him out of his shell. Harry knows that Hermione has ALWAYS been there, even when Ron temporarily abandoned him because of jealousy during the Triwizard Tournament. I think that Harry knows he can count on Hermione no matter what. Hermione has been the one constant in his life.

As for Hermione, who really knows? We know that Hermione has a soft spot for Harry, as she probably knows all he has been through and knows to support him to end since that is all he has. But we know littleof her true feelings. We can figure out what motivates her, but she is hard to read. She never stays the same person, but then again neither does Harry. This is my disappointment in Ron: there has been no character development from him. Hermione has changed, as has Harry.

I was about to go on, but I realize that this post is getting quite a bit too long. So I will end it here.

That is my two cents.

[Pinkhairedbunny]

Here's a topic to ponder on that's given me some decent debates: If there is no intent to set up a romance/friendship/storyline between Hermione and Draco, what real reason is there for JKR to have written the entire Muggleborn vs. Pure Blood storyline. It has very little impact upon Harry, Ron, Dumbledore or any of the other main plot characters. What characters has it so far, and would continue to have the most direct impact on? I myself see it as a set up for a tragic star-crossed romance to happen in one of the final two books.

Am I a hopeless romantic? Possibly.

Is it an interesting thing within canon to think about? Definitely.

[Overlord Zatenks]

Not really, because JKR herself has already stated that Hermione and Draco will never hook up. The purpose of the Muggleborns versus Pure Bloods was a massive plot device that facilitates Voldemort's targets.

[Pinkhairedbunny]

Not really, because JKR herself has already stated that Hermione and Draco will never hook up. The purpose of the Muggleborns versus Pure Bloods was a massive plot device that facilitates Voldemort's targets.

Never quite understood that point actually, being that Voldie himself is a Half-blood wizard.

[NevrMore]

Never quite understood that point actually, being that Voldie himself is a Half-blood wizard.

That's the point. He hates being a half-blood.

[Slavik81]

Draco is for all practical purposes, a static character. He doesn't change, he only learns how to do what he already does (being cruel and manipulating) better.
He has no possibility of forming a romantic relationship with anyone important. Now, that said, the same is true of Dumbledor, so it isn't just the bad guys who are static.

Myself? I would love to believe that Harry and Hermione would get together.

But I have a feeling that Harry will break away from who his father was, and become his own person. Also, Harry's isolation is one of the KEY CENTERPIECES to the book. He is ALWAYS isolated. And I think that will continue...

Harry just reminds me too much of myself (though Hermione is probably more similar to me... besides the whole gender thing). And I wish things would turn out well for Harry. That he ends up with Hermione. But... I'm limited to my imagination, and as I've identified with the characters, I don't think they can succeed in a relationship. Ron could. He could raise a family. Harry cannot.

[Overlord Zatenks]

I tend to disagree a bit. I think that Harry does have the capacity to have a relationship. He only isolates himself in times of struggle, he is not a general recluse. He does have the capacity to love every bit as Ron. In the case of Hermione, I think that Harry would be more successful in a relationship with her than Ron would. Ron and Hermione have too many differences and bitter arguments. If they got together, that would not change. A relationship between Ron and Hermione would fail pretty quickly. They would not last, as a relationship built on attraction alone is too weak to stand the test of time. In the case of Harry and Hermione, there is a certain closeness and bond between that Ron lacks with Hermione. Any time Harry isolates himself - with the exception of Hagrid - Hermione is the only one Harry has opened up to. Harry does have a certain soft spot for Hermione.

Based on their personality traits and relationships as of late, I think that Harry would be more successful in a relationship with Hermione than Ron would.

[Perfect Cell]

I agree completely with Zatenks, he has an excellent point. Number one though my friends and family disagree, I know Harry n' Ginny 'll never end up together. Ron does have an inferiority complex, if you dont think so you need to pay closer attention when you read. Hermione and Harry prolly won't end up together since Ron would end up deathly jealous. Don't think he wouldn't. I think theres always a chance for Hermione and Ron fans but as Zatenks pointed out based on the arguments of the R/Hr shippers here you wouldn't think so. I would also like to ay something to Zatenks - Thank you for saying you couldn't care less instead of you could. I see that to often even from intelligent people and just wanted to point it out...

[Kirarakim]

I vote for Ron and Hermione and I am almost positive it will happen this way. I was going to write this whole argument against the Harry/Hermione shippers but I figured why bother? No one is going to change their opinion because of my post anyways.

[Overlord Zatenks]

Ron and Hermione are pretty much guaranteed to get together. The question is, how long will it last? It can reasoned that Ron and Hermione will get together, discover that it is not meant to be after a while, and then break up. And who is to say that Hermione will not move onto Harry after she is done with Ron? Whatever the case, it is extremely likely that Ron will get with Hermione, though I think that Harry and Hermione are the most compatable.

[PhoenixTail234]

Based on their personality traits and relationships as of late, I think that Harry would be more successful in a relationship with Hermione than Ron would.


Ron and Hermione are pretty much guaranteed to get together.


Hey, make up your mind...

[morpheaus21]

[QUOTE=Overlord Zatenks]Ron and Hermione are pretty much guaranteed to get together.



Are you the writer? Because i don't think you are, and that means you can't pretty much guarantee anything.

[Overlord Zatenks]

I said that although Ron and Hermione are probably going to get together, it is not poised to be a successful relationship compared to Harry and Hermione. There is a difference.

[Yami Marik]

it seems like its harry and her. not ron and her., but with all the stuff happening, im not surpirsed

[DawnGiant]

it might be harry and hermione because hermione has equal feelings for both harry and ron (in my opinion atleast) and harry being in all that emotional distress she might go to him.

[Perfect Cell]

The most obvious ship of em' all involves Ginny, but not with Harry. No idea what their basing that on, the G/H shippers I mean. I think Neville will end up getting together with her. Maybe even Hermione...that play boy. Heh.

[User#27]

Some good points here. Just a few of my own observations:

On Hermione's personality: It seems to be the general consensus that Hermione is "striving to be better than everyone else because she is muggle born". I have to disagree with this. None of the main "good" charecters give the whole muggle/wizard blood thing a first thought let alone a second. Hermione is an overachiever. Being better than everyone else is simply part of her nature. On many levels she may not even realize that she is "trying to be better than everyone else". She simply works hard because she finds working hard easy.

On Ginny in general: I'm not sure if anyone else saw this but I think Ginny is being set up to become a more serious charecter. She did more in Phoenix than in the previous 4 books combined and appears to have matured considerably. I wouldn't be at all surprised by a Ginny/Harry relationship though it will probably not show up until the 7th book.

Finally I think it's worth noting that these books are going to leave the charecters before they are fully adults. I imagine we'll have a "where are they now" section at the end of 7 but the books end when they graduate more or less the equivelent of American highschool. Some people have met the person they will marry by that time but not many and certainly not all. Of course JKR will probably want to please the fanbase and make sure some of the main charecters do end up together but it's still a point worth bringing up.

[DuelmasterN]

[QUOTE=Overlord Zatenks]Ron and Hermione are pretty much guaranteed to get together.



Are you the writer? Because i don't think you are, and that means you can't pretty much guarantee anything.

It is a prediction.... Are you trying to act thick or did you really not understand what he said?

[PhoenixTail234]

Let's not go bringing up old topics. This thread is old and over discused