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Welcome to the Pojo Team Ladder thread. This thread is designed to show what teams are top notch, and what teams need to work a little harder in their performance. Teams on Pojo are defined as clans, in which anyone may form one, and anyone may join one. This Ladder is formed to not only provide a ranking to the Teams, but to provide a sort of Index as well. Thank you for viewing this thread, and if you have any questions/comments/suggestions feel free to PM them to me at any time.
Joining the Ladder
To get your Team on the Ladder, you need to have your Team Leader (or Co-Leader) post on this thread stating the Team Name and a link to the team thread. At that time, I will look through and find any and all past Wars your team has won/lost and record them properly on this thread. Please note that your Leader (or Co-Leader) must be the one posting.Updating the Ladder
When your Team goes to a new thread, the Team Leader should post here again to provide the new link. When your team wins a war, the Team Leader needs to post here stating that they won, and who it was against. That will then be recorded properly for both teams. Only the Leader of the winning team needs to post to get a war recorded.Scoring the Ladder
Wins and losses will be recorded here for each team that has properly joined. The Team with the highest percentage of wins will be at the top of the Ladder, and the Team with lowest will be at the bottom.Note: Wars do not need to be reported here when they start, only when the finish. Please also include a link to the War thread for proper confirmation of the win.Also Note: When posting to join the Ladder, please state what color you want your team to be recognized with when listed here. You cannot choose a color already in use, this include red and yellow since they are already in use on this thread.
Thank you, and you may now post.
The Ladder
Listed in order of highest to lowest...
1) Team_Dark
W: 2 L: 0 - 100%
2) Team Desu~
W: 1 L: 0 - 100%
2) Team Zeal
W: 1 L: 2 - 33%
3) Team Storm
W: 0 L: 0 - 0%
Conan415
08-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Team oppression and give us green I guess :p
Please include the link to your thread as stated here:
and a link to the team thread
Conan415
08-09-2009, 07:58 PM
I would have by I can't since I'm typing on an iTouch lol
Sigh, I guess I'll stop being lazy myself and find the thread link myself then, lol.
Adding now...
XxnarutoXD
08-09-2009, 08:01 PM
Subbing Rawr
There is a way to do that without posting, just click on Thread Tools and then Subscribe to Thread. On most threads, it doesn't matter by doing it the posting way, but please refrain from doing so on this thread. I want this to be spam free, 100%.
Team Zeal
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=732557&page=30
I would say red, but it would clash with the OP =( .... dark orange will do ^^
Team Zeal is now on the Ladder.
Team Zeal is also at the top, with a 67% record. (that means they won 67% of the wars they were in)
Conan415
08-10-2009, 07:05 AM
Wait Zeal had 3 completed wars?
They beat The Empire and Exile and lost to Desu~.
Tuperius' War Archive really helps with this...
FizzyStardust
08-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Team Desu~
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=14604010&posted=1#post14604010
pink
Team Desu~ has been added and now holds the top spot with a 100% win record. (Dark vs. Desu~ wasn't counted because it was agreed that it would be finished at a later time)
grim mouser
08-10-2009, 03:37 PM
Dark will take black...
I'll find the war links.
Please post the link to the team thread. And I will take care of finding your wins/losses.
grim mouser
08-10-2009, 03:39 PM
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=731174
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=705957&highlight=war
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=631972&highlight=war
Team_Dark has been added and now holds the top spot, since you have 2 wins and 100% and Desu~ only has 1 win and 100%.
Also grimmy, can you please delete gaypimp's post so I can use my post after that to list the actual Ladder in, it gets lost in the first post with all the information about it.
Thanks,
DSP
grim mouser
08-10-2009, 04:01 PM
LOL to the top spot thing. xD
I'm glad you got your dose of humor today, now would you mind getting out the big red delete button for me?
grim mouser
08-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Already did. Got glasses? ;]
You hadn't when I posted that. But thanks.
grim mouser
08-10-2009, 04:09 PM
One-minute span sees a lot of things happen. O.o
Why yes, yes it does. Now, Mr. Mod, please stop spamming this thread.
Team Riot!
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=740674
Deepskyblue for color x] i think thats what its called
Team Riot! has been added, and is tied for the 4th (last) spot with Oppression.
mgswarrior2
08-19-2009, 05:32 PM
Team Oppression has disbanded, remove us from the ladder.
*goes to sadly remove the team from the ladder*
Additional Comment:
Everyone, remember to post here with an updated link to your thread when you've gone to a new thread! That's very important! If you're thread link isn't updated when a war is reported, the war won't count!
FizzyStardust
09-05-2009, 02:25 AM
I'm here to report the glorious bloody war that Desu~ was the true victor of.
What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such out ward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
Congrats on your "win" and I'll update now. I'll also go ahead and remove Riot! from the roster since no one will post here saying to.
I hope everyone posts a war win like you did Fizz, lol.
Additional Comment:
I'll let this automerge so I can announce the changes.
Desu~ is now tied with _Dark for #1, with 100% win record out of 2 wars.
Zeal is now last with a 50% win record out of 4 wars.
Riot! has been taken off of the roster.
I'd personally like to see a Dark v. Desu war, based on the statistics here. Zeal also needs another War, to redeem themselves. But, after seeing how Wars effect the community, I'm not sure we should do any for a while. :( I don't want to lose any more of the 3 teams we have left... (on the ladder).
Another thing, does anyone have any ideas on other ways we could get some movement on the Ladder and allow it to be more efficient than just War wins/losses? Post here so we can discuss.
Ero-Sennin
09-05-2009, 07:04 AM
I have to agree with you.. I really want Desu vs Dark :D
And, as Ridley stated yesterday, Dark is the only one someone can war without all the drama. Yay for Modz! :D
grim mouser
09-05-2009, 10:48 AM
Too lazy.
FizzyStardust
09-05-2009, 10:52 AM
I have to agree with you.. I really want Desu vs Dark :D
And, as Ridley stated yesterday, Dark is the only one someone can war without all the drama. Yay for Modz! :D
well one started, it never finished. I wonder if it can be revived soon.
pfaithful
09-05-2009, 10:54 AM
as long as we both have enough active members
... based on the statistics here.
You're kidding, right?
Is this thread still serious? If it is then I don't think we should get a loss for a war that didn't end.
FizzyStardust
09-05-2009, 12:52 PM
I think desu should still get the win, but zeal shouldn't get a loss.
also yeah, I thought my post needed an inspirational speech so I opted for st. crispen's day speech.
Thanx, but I just mean that if this thing is gonna be serious and actually show the percentage of wins each team has then it should be done properly.
Well, technically Desu~ was declared the winner, but since Fizz has stated to not give Zeal the loss, I'll remove a loss from Zeal, but keep the win with Desu~.
Additional Comment:
Done. Zeal now has a 66% win record, but still in last place (2nd).
Technically? Lol, they weren't even in the war.
What is the purpose of this project? If it's actually to show how good each team is, battling-wise, then by giving Desu a win for a war they weren't even in, you're defying that purpose. And when you said "based on the statistics here", I assumed this project was still serious.
If you want the win for Desu~ retracted, thefizz or Itsuki, leaders of Desu~, need to post here to decline the win. Otherwise, the win was given to them, they have the right to take it.
The loss was given to Desu~ by Nacho, your current Leader. I only removed your loss because FIZZ said it shouldn't count. He did say that Desu~ should have the win. Please refrain from posting here unless you have something to contribute. Thanks!
FizzyStardust
09-06-2009, 12:11 PM
If you want the win for Desu~ retracted, thefizz or Itsuki, leaders of Desu~, need to post here to decline the win. Otherwise, the win was given to them, they have the right to take it.
i don't see this happening. lol.
From the OP, this is what I gathered to be the aim of this project - "This thread is designed to show what teams are top notch, and what teams need to work a little harder in their performance". You're simply defying the purpose by giving a win to a team that wasn't even in the war. It's like me posting this in the ladder thread -
MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx
Additional Comment:
It's your project, so it's up to you, but I'm just saying that it can either be something that actually shows wins and losses for the wars on Pojo or just something for you to play around with.
From the OP, this is what I gathered to be the aim of this project - "This thread is designed to show what teams are top notch, and what teams need to work a little harder in their performance". You're simply defying the purpose by giving a win to a team that wasn't even in the war. It's like me posting this in the ladder thread -
MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx
Additional Comment:
It's your project, so it's up to you, but I'm just saying that it can either be something that actually shows wins and losses for the wars on Pojo or just something for you to play around with.
I understand your point, but my point is that Desu~ was in fact declared the winner of the war. I'm sorry, but...
i don't see this happening. lol.
thefizz has spoken.
You can always war Desu~ again, and *try* to win. :D
Discussion Ended.
I understand your point ...
I don't think you understand my point at all, lol.
If you want this very serious project to remain spam free then I'll PM you my "point". =)
Effective Immediately, no team shall in anyway reflect an outcome of the Riot v. Zeal War. All Teams on the Ladder have been reset to their previous record before the war was recorded. This is my judgement, and is not up for discussion. I have decided based on the fact that this war has cause literally nothing but drama and problems, and does no team deserves a win for it, or a loss for it.
Thank you,
DanielSuperpoke
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 04:27 PM
this is going to create an inconsistensy between the team ladder and the War History thread. not to mention second guess the leadership of two teams.
I guess I should open it up for other people to give their opinions.
Go ahead and discuss, everyone.
How is it any different from posting this in the ladder thread? -
MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx (simply the thought of that post seems ridiculous, let alone debate upon whether Shaxx should receive the point/s for it.)
This post is aimed at everyone btw, no one in specific.
This post is aimed at everyone btw, no one in specific.
Please keep all posts like MMN did with his. Thanks.
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 04:45 PM
how ridiculous it is is irrelevant. if you second guess the judgement of the leadership of a team or teams on this war, then you must also do so for all future wars. So anytime a team forfeits or quits a war, the results of the war must be thrown out the window. This can lead to any team who is lossing a war to say, "F it we quit" and it not count against them.
I feel this is pretty cut and dry: two teams warred, a victor was named even though they were not a part in the war. If a victor is not to be awarded in this war, then both teams should be given a draw. It is unfair to give a victory to a team and then because of civil unrest it be stripped away.
Thank you both your views, MMN you may respond, but I'd like someone not on Zeal or Desu to give their opinion as well, to make it as little biased as possible.
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 04:47 PM
How is it any different from posting this in the ladder thread? -
MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx (simply the thought of that post seems ridiculous, let alone debate upon whether Shaxx should receive the point/s for it.)
This post is aimed at everyone btw, no one in specific.
if we both agreed shaxx won, i see no issue.
if we both agreed shaxx won, i see no issue.
That's what I said when he used that argument with me yesterday.
if we both agreed shaxx won, i see no issue.
agreed.
funny cause i was in riot when we gave the win to desu~. both your leader, and my leader said Desu~ was the winner. if leaders arent meant to make choices that involves their teams, why are there leaders in the first place then?
Well, so far it's all against one here, but I still want to see an outside view on this. Someone on Storm or Dark please post here, thanks.
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 04:55 PM
agreed.
funny cause i was in riot when we gave the win to desu~. both your leader, and my leader said Desu~ was the winner. if leaders arent meant to make choices that involves their teams, why are there leaders in the first place then?
exactly, i was on the desu xat when this was announced and Nacho DEMANDED that I immediately granted the win to desu on the war history thread.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here, but technically Nacho was not the Leader of Zeal when he declared Desu~ the winner. That's all.
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 05:00 PM
oh please nacho was always the leader.
Good point, ignore that post then.
Nacho called himself the ______ leader.
forgot the exact word.
Nacho DEMANDED that I immediately granted the win to desu on the war history thread.
Thats all that needs to be known.
Could "Inactive" be the word you're looking for? IDK, but that's just my guess.
I'd still like to hear atleast one outside non-Desu/Zeal opinion on this before I make a decision on how to count this.
Additional Comment:
I honestly don't know what to do, my decision is going to hurt somebody's feelings and make somebody mad, and I don't want this project to do that. I just wish there was a way to make everyone happy, which is what I though nulling the war completely would do, but I guess not.
I do agree with Tup that the war archive and this ladder need to be in synch, so either we both should count it as a win for desu, give both teams a draw, or nullify the war completely. IDK...
v4lor
09-07-2009, 05:07 PM
. balls
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 05:07 PM
its pretty obvious that MMN is the only one that cares about not giving desu the win.
What are you trying to contribute with that post? Don't spam up this thread please. Thanks.
if we both agreed shaxx won, i see no issue.
For real? He wasn't even in the battle. O.o
Say you and I wanted to get Shaxx points on the ladder (I dunno why I'm choosing Shaxx, lol), and we posted "MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx, every 24 hours or so, wouldn't it be an injustice to everyone else on that ladder?
Also this Team Ladder is supposed to be showing which teams are "top notch" battling-wise (quoted from the OP), how does receiving a win from a war you weren't even in show that your team is "top notch"?
its pretty obvious that MMN is the only one that cares about not giving desu the win.
When I get another outside opinion on this, I will make my decision. All I've seen arguing against MMN is Desu folk...
v4lor
09-07-2009, 05:11 PM
two opponents flamed at each other, if teams cant control there teammates neither team should even be waring
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 05:11 PM
For real? He wasn't even in the battle. O.o
Say you and I wanted to get Shaxx points on the ladder (I dunno why I'm choosing Shaxx, lol), and we posted "MMN vs thefizz = Shaxx, every 24 hours or so, wouldn't it be an injustice to everyone else on that ladder?
Also this Team Ladder is supposed to be showing which teams are "top notch" battling-wise (quoted from the OP), how does receiving a win from a war you weren't even in show that your team is "top notch"?
seems pretty self explanatory to me. we must be pretty top notch to win a war we weren't in.
its pretty obvious that MMN is the only one that cares about not giving desu the win.
I don't care much about whether Desu gets the win or not, my main point is that this project won't be fulfilling it's aim if teams can obtain wins like that.
Okay, I want one person from Zeal, and one person from Desu, and one outside person (not including me) to discuss this on this thread. Everyone else are now spectators and nothing more. Let's make this a fair and unbiased and righteous decision. The next person to post from each of those teams are your represenatives so yeah...
seems pretty self explanatory to me. we must be pretty top notch to win a war we weren't in.
But isn't this project's aim to show how teams are ranked battling-wise?
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:16 PM
i <3 pancakes and people win on technicalities all the time
v4lor
09-07-2009, 05:16 PM
two opponents flamed at each other, if teams cant control there teammates neither team should even be waring
posting again, if a team cant control there team mates its poor sport, neither side deserves the win. if the team sees theres no other solution to stop the flaming they would have to figure some way, and this was the only solution they had. this can be a once in a while thing but imo im not a leader
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 05:16 PM
Also this Team Ladder is supposed to be showing which teams are "top notch" battling-wise (quoted from the OP), how does receiving a win from a war you weren't even in show that your team is "top notch"?
Based solely off of this statement and nothing else, both teams should be given a draw/tie if not a loss. Again I am basing that as the most logical judgement given the above quote.
Ridley is representing Desu and MMN likewise for Zeal.
Only other people to post should be myself and one non Desu/Zeal member.
Based solely off of this statement and nothing else, both teams should be given a draw/tie if not a loss. Again I am basing that as the most logical judgement given the above quote.
Then shouldn't the rest of the unfinished wars on Pojo be treated the same? With a draw for both participants, that is.
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 05:21 PM
i <3 pancakes and people win on technicalities all the time
i prefer waffles.
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 05:21 PM
Then shouldn't the rest of the unfinished wars on Pojo be treated the same? With a draw for both participants, that is.
I already made that argument, thank you
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Then shouldn't the rest of the unfinished wars on Pojo be treated the same? With a draw for both participants, that is.
lol u know that means uve never won a war btw,,,, making ur points even lower
The unfinished wars (draw) are not counted on this Ladder in anyway, as would this war if it is declared a draw.
FizzyStardust
09-07-2009, 05:23 PM
lol u know that means uve never won a war btw,,,, making ur points even lower
fix the war archive.
So, wait, Zeal has all draws? That's interesting.
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:25 PM
The unfinished wars (draw) are not counted on this Ladder in anyway, as would this war if it is declared a draw.
so technically zeal have 0 points on this ladder, have they ever finished a war and won?
desu should get the win for the zeal vs riot war
Wa? We beat Exile just a while ago. That is the last finished war on Pojo, isn't it?
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Wa? We beat Exile just a while ago. That is the last finished war on Pojo, isn't it?
kk so , u have 0, 1 point for winning and -1 point for losing to desu
But we won against The Empire, I wasn't in the war, but that's according to Tuperius' War Archive.
In sight of recent revelations, Desu will receive the win in the Riot v. Zeal War and Zeal's wins/losses are currently under inspection.
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:33 PM
But we won against The Empire, I wasn't in the war, but that's according to Tuperius' War Archive.
empire collasped b4 it ended so it is unfinished, which as u stated as a draw.
U dug ur own grave im sorry to say :P
But we won against The Empire, I wasn't in the war, but that's according to Tuperius' War Archive.
TE disbanded before a win was determined. I should know, I was in it. :D
empire collasped b4 it ended so it is unfinished, which as u stated as a draw.
U dug ur own grave im sorry to say :P
Lol, I'm just getting this from YOUR archive. Why have you given Zeal the win then?
If two teams are at war and one disbands, surely it's a forfeit, not a tie, otherwise any team could just refuse to play on and say "sorry, it's a tie".
If they refuse to play, it's obv. a win for the other team, but TE disbanded, and was no longer a team for reasons not related to the war. That shouldn't count as a forfiet.
Okay, here's what I want. I want anyone who wants to to PM me answering these questions:
1. What should be the outcome in the Riot v. Zeal War?
2. What wars should count as wins for Zeal and what wars should be losses, or what shouldn't count. Don't include the Riot war in this one, that's answered in #1.
Thanks,
DanielSuperpoke
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:44 PM
Lol, I'm just getting this from YOUR archive. Why have you given Zeal the win then?
If two teams are at war and one disbands, surely it's a forfeit, not a tie, otherwise any team could just refuse to play on and say "sorry, it's a tie".
its not my archive..... lol and i thought they js said they wanted harmony between the war history thread and the war ladder, and so they just discussed on changing it to, if a war doesnt end its a draw. which you clearly just stated you agreed on..(further down the page)
Me and Angie have come to an agreement:
THE WAR IS OVER!!
The winner:
Team Desu.
i think this should answer number one. but thats just my logic..
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 05:45 PM
But we won against The Empire, I wasn't in the war, but that's according to Tuperius' War Archive.
excuse me, but the war archive clearly states that it was a draw.
Ridley
09-07-2009, 05:46 PM
If they refuse to play, it's obv. a win for the other team, but TE disbanded, and was no longer a team for reasons not related to the war. That shouldn't count as a forfiet.
Okay, here's what I want. I want anyone who wants to to PM me answering these questions:
1. What should be the outcome in the Riot v. Zeal War?
2. What wars should count as wins for Zeal and what wars should be losses, or what shouldn't count. Don't include the Riot war in this one, that's answered in #1.
Thanks,
DanielSuperpoke
i thought we js finished dicussing these points. u ask me to represent then ignore the points i just made lol... i thought the discussion is over now, if it isnt can i baton pass this to someone else i need to sleep lol *throws to tup*
Nvm, ignore the end of my last post, that's a seperate issue. All I'm trying to say is that you're defying the purpose of the ladder by giving that win to Desu, as on basis can it be down to their battling skill, which is what this thread is trying to show, right?
pfaithful
09-07-2009, 05:46 PM
i'm still wondering why this really matters. its not a contest, it just is a record of a DS game created for fun
I don't care who posts now.
Tup, can you get on Desu Xat so we can discuss what wars should be what?
hope at least someone saw my last post... D:
v4lor
09-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Nvm, ignore the end of my last post, that's a seperate issue. All I'm trying to say is that you're defying the purpose of the ladder by giving that win to Desu, as on basis can it be down to their battling skill, which is what this thread is trying to show, right?
yes but that certain war was based on who could flame at the end rather who can play. the two oponents kept flaming not resolving anything. at that point it was never gunna end . what if riot wun but still broke up? that wun would never go to anyone
Additional Comment:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killer_Nacho View Post
Me and Angie have come to an agreement:
THE WAR IS OVER!!
The winner:
Team Desu.
i think this should answer number one. but thats just my logic....
and thsi was the solution .... <3 Dory :3
Alright, I declare Desu~ the winner of the Zeal/Riot/Desu~ War.
I'll be reading Tup's Archive shortly and coming to a verdict on the rest of Zeal's wars...
excuse me, but the war archive clearly states that it was a draw.
"They beat The Empire and Exile and lost to Desu~.
Tuperius' War Archive really helps with this..." - DSP
This is on the first page of this thread, so I assumed he was talking about your archive, I guess I shouldn't have taken his word for it.
As I said, I will be reviewing that decision and I'll get back to you on my verdict.
I don't care about the verdict, if wins can be given to teams who weren't even involved in the war, then I don't see how this is a serious project.
Ridley
09-07-2009, 06:01 PM
I don't care about the verdict, if wins can be given to teams who weren't even involved in the war, then I don't see how this is a serious project.
y so srs?...
Alright, I'll break down the Zeal wars, as listed in the Archive.
Team Zeal vs. Team Eclipse
Winner: War stalled, eventually teams merged.
No winner is stated here, so draw.
The Empire vs. Team Zeal
3/3/2009 to Unfinished
Winner: Draw, Empire broke up before wars end.
Draw is clearly stated. Draw.
Team Desu~ vs. Team Zeal
5/23/2009 to 6/2/2009
Winner: Team Desu~
Team Desu~ won.
Team Exile vs. Team Zeal
6/10/2009 to 6/21/2009
Winner: Team Zeal
This is a win for Team Zeal, so yeah.
Team Riot vs. Team Zeal
8/23/2009 to Present
Winner: Team Desu~(Really)
Team Desu~, we've already discussed this.
Team Zeal Vs Team Adrammelech
8/10/2008 to unfinished
Winner: Draw, war stalled
Draw.
So, that makes it W: 1 L: 2 D: 3. That's a 20% win record.
I'm also going to edit everyone's draws shortly as welll, so yeah.
End of Discussion.
Ridley
09-07-2009, 06:08 PM
its 1 loss for them isnt it? not 2
pfaithful
09-07-2009, 06:09 PM
NO DESU WON TWICE
Killer_Nacho
09-07-2009, 06:09 PM
Oh yeah!
I created a new team called Team Lols. That being said, I have some wars to report.
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Desu
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Desu vs Lols = Lols
Yeah, we war fast and don't win often but we have great spirit!
They lost to Desu twice.
Team Riot vs. Team Zeal
8/23/2009 to Present
Winner: Team Desu~(Really)
And
Team Desu~ vs. Team Zeal
5/23/2009 to 6/2/2009
Winner: Team Desu~
No, Desu won, so Riot and Zeal both get a loss =P, I'm happy that I'm not the only one who sees this ladder as a joke. =D
Oh yeah!
I created a new team called Team Lols. That being said, I have some wars to report.
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Desu
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Desu vs Lols = Lols
Yeah, we war fast and don't win often but we have great spirit!
I am going to need to see some thread links, provide those with proof inside, and I'll count the wars. :D
.. ye, what DSP said about our 2nd loss thing. K, GN. We were debating, not arguing =D, already said this to Tup, so I hope no hard feelings. =P
No, Desu won, so Riot and Zeal both get a loss =P, I'm happy that I'm not the only one who sees this ladder as a joke. =D
Riot is no longer a team, so therefore they can't receive a loss.
pfaithful
09-07-2009, 06:12 PM
riot isn't on the ladder as it doesn't exist any more
Ridley
09-07-2009, 06:12 PM
Oh yeah!
I created a new team called Team Lols. That being said, I have some wars to report.
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Desu
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Desu vs Lols = Lols
Yeah, we war fast and don't win often but we have great spirit!
i think team lols dispanded on the last battle :P
and then half the team made another group called... team y-so-srs-MMN
Tuperiu5
09-07-2009, 06:13 PM
No, Desu won, so Riot and Zeal both get a loss =P, I'm happy that I'm not the only one who sees my argument as a joke. =D
agreed mmn
Killer_Nacho
09-07-2009, 06:13 PM
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=15024259
My decision is done and over with. This is not up for discussion. Please stop spamming this thread, all of you.
Oh yeah!
I created a new team called Team Lols. That being said, I have some wars to report.
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Desu
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Zeal vs Lols = Zeal
Desu vs Lols = Lols
Yeah, we war fast and don't win often but we have great spirit!
:O
what a coincident!!
i saw this team called rofl and we at desu challenged them.
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Zeal = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Zeal vs Riot = Desu
Rofl vs Zeal = Rofl
man these teams coming out of nowhere. they played fast too!! like the guys in Lols huh nacho?
:)
Dory, please stop.
This is done. No more discussion.
pfaithful
09-07-2009, 06:17 PM
:O
what a coincident!!
i saw this team called rofl and we at desu challenged them.
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Zeal = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Rofl vs Desu = Desu
Zeal vs Riot = Desu
Rofl vs Zeal = Rofl
man these teams coming out of nowhere. they played fast too!! like the guys in Lols huh nacho?
:)
where would the world be without dory? <3
Itsuki
09-07-2009, 06:17 PM
Hi everyone.
I say we count the wars and we count the war with Zeal vs. Riot = Desu win.
kthnxbai
I honestly only read like 5 posts. lol
grim mouser
09-07-2009, 06:58 PM
This is one stupid dream I'm having.
Mr. Mod, please don't spam this thread. kthxbai.
Desert_Fox
09-09-2009, 02:05 AM
I think if teams would stay together then all would be well.. But of course... that saddly wont happen =,(
I think the teams we have on the Ladder currently are going to stay together for awhile.
iPwnMW2
09-15-2009, 12:35 PM
This is a joke ....
Dark vs Air Foce ended with Air Force no longer existing, yet you've counted it as a win ... Zeal vs Empire was the exact same situation ... double standards, pfft. =P
And I don't recall Dark vs Desu finishing either, so according to your twisted rules, that's a draw for both teams.
Funny how AMN cares about this as much as MMN does.
This is not up for discussion.
This is not a discussion, I'm just notifying you of the things you missed ... Desu vs Dark (unfinished), and also Dark vs Air Force was a draw (according to your rules) as AF disbanded.
My decision was made on all past wars. That decision stays.
/end.
What was your decision on the unfinished Desu vs Dark war? A win for each? O.o
I believe I considered it a Draw. I basically used what Tup listed on the Archive.
So why does neither team have a draw?
pfaithful
09-15-2009, 02:40 PM
if u look more closely over tups archieve, it says they only won 1 war, u have it as 2
I didn't list draws on here, I just didn't include anything for that war.
FizzyStardust
09-15-2009, 02:40 PM
What was your decision on the unfinished Desu vs Dark war? A win for each? O.o
when the war was called off, we were under the impression it would continue at a later date when activity was up. its in the thread.
Again, nothing is up for discussion. My decision was made on how to list all wars from the past.
End of Discussion.
FizzyStardust
09-15-2009, 02:43 PM
i'm not trying to argue anything, i was just trying to shine some light on the situation, i'm shocked that anyone has a real problem with this still.
not trying to step on your toes, just trying to lend a helping hand.
I didn't list draws on here, I just didn't include anything for that war.
Are you ok? You've given us 3 draws ... so you did list draws on here.
Fizz, I understand what you're trying to do.
MMN, not anymore.
You said you don't list draws, you've listed 3 draws for Zeal ... so you do list draws. Ok, forget Desu vs Dark as it's "going to be finished" but why does Zeal have a draw for the war vs The Empire?
Does it still have a draw? :)
Killer_Nacho
09-15-2009, 02:52 PM
You said you don't list draws, you've listed 3 draws for Zeal ... so you do list draws. Ok, forget Desu vs Dark as it's "going to be finished" but why does Zeal have a draw for the war vs The Empire?
I concur. Zeal was still willing to fight that war, but the Empire disbanned. If Dark gets a win over Air Force because Air Force disbanned mid-war, Zeal should get one too.
This Ladder can not use double-standards. Its either Dark vs Air Force = Draw or Zeal vs Empire = Zeal... unless you can explain the distinction between the two.
As I have stated previously, me decisions on previous wars are not up for discussion. Thank you and have a nice day.
Killer_Nacho
09-15-2009, 02:54 PM
Team Zeal withdraws from the Team Ladder.
I concur. Zeal was still willing to fight that war, but the Empire disbanned. If Dark gets a win over Air Force because Air Force disbanned mid-war, Zeal should get one too.
This Ladder can not use double-standards. Its either Dark vs Air Force = Draw or Zeal vs Empire = Zeal... unless you can explain the distinction between the two.
This ladder no longer records "draws". =P
Desert_Fox
09-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Stop complaining about the wins and losses and draws and ****. It is what it is.. You cant exactly get a win for something that never actually finished. There was no resloution in the war and even if you were willing to fight the war how could you get a win for something that you didnt actually win? No resolution=Draw.
Team Zeal withdraws from the Team Ladder.
I don't think it matters to us now. ^
Sorry, but I won't be removing Team Zeal. You're staying, and you're wars will count. You might regret withdrawing if you beat Storm... :D
So yeah, sorry, but Team Zeal stays.
This discussion is over, should've never started.
Killer_Nacho
09-15-2009, 03:02 PM
Stop complaining about the wins and losses and draws and ****. It is what it is.. You cant exactly get a win for something that never actually finished. There was no resloution in the war and even if you were willing to fight the war how could you get a win for something that you didnt actually win? No resolution=Draw.
Because there was no resolution to the Dark vs Air Force war either. I'm just saying that war should be counted as a "Draw" too, or Zeal should get the win for Zeal vs Empire.
Additional Comment:
Sorry, but I won't be removing Team Zeal. You're staying, and you're wars will count. You might regret withdrawing if you beat Storm... :D
So yeah, sorry, but Team Zeal stays.
This discussion is over, should've never started.
LOL!
Where do you get the right to tell me what I can do with my team?
We're not in the Team Ladder anymore. Period. End of story. I don't care if you put us on there, it means garbage because we're not there anymore. k thx.
Sorry, but I won't be removing Team Zeal. You're staying, and you're wars will count. You might regret withdrawing if you beat Storm... :D
So yeah, sorry, but Team Zeal stays.
This discussion is over, should've never started.
Loooooool.
LOL!
Where do you get the right to tell me what I can do with my team?
We're not in the Team Ladder anymore. Period. End of story. I don't care if you put us on there, it means garbage because we're not there anymore. k thx.
People will still see that you have a 33% win record.
Killer_Nacho
09-15-2009, 03:03 PM
People will still see that you have a 33% win record.
It's a lie. What do I care? Screw it, I'm calling for a mod here. xd
If you don't care, why do you keep posting on this thread?
People will still see that you have a 33% win record.
Well, we know that's not true ... you're treating different teams differently, lol. Same situations, yet different outcomes ... explanation = none.
Desert_Fox
09-15-2009, 03:05 PM
*Sigh* Everyone gets a draw easy solution... No resolution for any war should end in a draw.. Lets just do that so we can move on..
Mod please lock this thread, and unsticky it of course.
I'm fed up with trying to suit everyone.
kthxbai.
Desert_Fox
09-15-2009, 03:11 PM
Lol I was trying to help you DSP =p. Its not exactly suiting me or them but I just think its the best decision to keep other from saying the same you know?
I dont know I just saw it as the easiest solution.
Please do not post here again, anyone.
Unless of course you are a mod and you must post to lock it. :D
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