Why do People Like the New Harry Potter Movie? (A Rant)

[Hollow Golem]

I just wrote this up. Hope you like it.

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Are you all stupid? Seriously, go watch Twilight. This movie left out so many points from the book that it's not even funny. Literally, the things they left out were vital to the story. However, this isn't the only thing. Not only is it not true to the book, but it's not even good for a movie. It leaves too much to the imagination, which I'm going to mention in a second.

First off, the book opened with the new Minister of Magic confronting the Prime Minister in his office. It was a really grand and good scene. However, Rufus Scrimgeour wasn't even in the movie, leaving out vital plot devices. He was a main antagonist in the book and caused a lot of trouble and hardships for Harry although his ambitions were good. He was a perfect example of a flawed character, a brilliant character. And yet, him and all other political figures in the book were completely gone.

Next, we start the movie out in some cafe with Harry hitting on some random chick. Not only do we miss out on seeing the progression of the Dursleys and their attitude towards Harry, but the fact that Harry is in love with Ginny totally goes against this. Horrid decision making on the screenwriters part. It wasn't THAT bad though.

Next, they instantly go to see Slughorn. It's a very good scene and I have no complaints. Slughorn's actor is played very well. Harry then goes to the Burrow and... BOOM they are at the Weasley joke shop then.... BOOM they are at school where their only class is seemingly Potions. Not once are they in another class, and not ONCE did Harry seem to mind that Snape was the new DAtDA teacher. This was a huge, monumental thing in the book that was discussed over all of the previous books. This REALLY should have had more emphasis put on it. There isn't even once scene of him in the class. Pathetic.

Next, he is randomly shown Dumbledore's first memory of Tom Riddle... and that is one of two memories that he sees. In the book there is a whole sub-plot on the Gaunt ring. The whole point of the subplot was to reveal that Voldemort is a blood relative of Slytherin which, apparently, isn't that important. We now have two subplots completely missing which are instead filled by moronic, unnecessary love scenes between Ron and Lavender, who, if you hadn't read the book and don't have a strong mind for minor characters, you wouldn't even know is Lavender until the movie is more than half over. Yeah, that is the first time she is called by name. Another horrible choice, not to mention horrible acting on Lavender's part. This is where the movie is bad just standing alone. If I hadn't read the book, I wouldn't have even known who she was.

Another scene I want to puke on is the Burrow on fire. Not only is it completely unnecessary and not present in the novel, but it consumes so much time that could have been used other places. Oh, and isn't it pretty awkward how it isn't even mentioned afterward what exactly happened? There is no clarification to where the Weasleys will relocate, unless I missed it. And in the following scenes, no one even seems to care. In fact, it's not even mentioned.

Another thing that bothered me from the start that happened in this scene was the apparent flight capability of the Death Eaters. I mean really? What spell is that and why can Fenris use it? They were shown as the cause of the destruction to England instead of the nonexistent Dementors, which also ticked me off. Seriously, that flight power wasn't available in the last movies and wasn't in the books until the Deathly Hallows where Snape and Voldemort know how, but it's nowhere near as spiffy as in the movie.

You thought I was done? Hah, no. How did Harry know how to use the bezoar on Ron when he was dying? In the novel it was because he read the line, "Shove a bezoar down his throat" in the Half Blood Prince's textbook. However, there was no explanation of this in the movie. He rummaged through Slughorn's cabinet and for some reason what it was and how to use it.

Also, while talking about Ron, where was the part where he was upset upon finding out that he really wasn't given the luck potion for the Quidditch match?

Oh, and talking about Quidditch, where was it? There was one game and no cup, leaving everyone baffled.

And speaking of baffled, how is Harry supposed to know what the other Horcruxes are now that Dumbeldore died, in the movie, before he could tell him?

Oh, and speaking of Dumbedlore, whose scene on the island was nothing less than epic, it truly was spectacular, wasn't there supposed to be more substance to his death? He was begging Snape and Snape was very, very hesitant to kill him. However, in the movie it was just, "Snape, please" and then Snape did it. Big deal. Also, after DD's death, how did anyone else know that who killed him? Harry didn't tell McGonagall in the movie.

And where was the battle scene of Hogwarts?

The "duel" between Snape and Harry was horrible, too. Harry only cast one spell against Snape. In the novel, it was a whole five pages long of Harry trying to curse Snape, twice with Crucio, which didn't happen. The usage of the Unforgivable Curse by Harry is essential to show how disgustingly angry and torn he actually was. In the movie his first instinct was... Sectumsempra? Really? Did he NOT want Snape to die? There was also no emphasis on Snape's sensitivity to the word coward. His actor is wonderful and really could have belted out some great lines with great emotion at that scene, but no.

Also, going back a little, where was Harry's punishment for nearly killing Malfoy? Boy did that sure blow over.

A lot of these problems could have been fixed by not even introducing them. They could have cut all of the Quidditch, all of the burning Burrow, and half of the love crap and added a lot more vitals. And as you can see, a lot of these problems weren't even problems based off of what happened in the book. There are a lot of plot holes present in the movie that can add a lot of confusion. For example, where the Weasleys will live, where Voldemort is (no mention of him in the whole movie), how Harry will find the last Horcruxes, etc.

It's a horrible, garbage movie and I don't see how ANYONE can like it.

Don't call me a fanboy who is basing his argument off of what should have happened. There are things that needed to happen to progress the plot that simply are not present. The dialogue is rushed and awkward, and it leaves way too much to the imagination. It truly is one of the worst movies I have ever seen, even when taking the book out of the equation.

[Lord Griffin]

I have to agree with pretty much everything you said, though I did enjoy seeing the movie as well.

-The Dumbledore death scene and hunt for hurcruxes should have taken up more movie time. That was probably the most disappointing to me (the end of the film, basically). I don't know how they plan to come out with the seventh now.
- I thought that the "flying black clouds in the sky" would surely be the dementors...of course they have to change things up even more. I don't understand it.

Yes, it didn't stick true to the feeling of the book, but for some reason I did enjoy the movie. Perhaps it was my company...

[fusion duelist]

I didn't like it much either, but I will comment on your comments in the quote.


I just wrote this up. Hope you like it.

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Are you all stupid? Seriously, go watch Twilight.I liked Twilight (let the flames begin) This movie left out so many points from the book that it's not even funny. Literally, the things they left out were vital to the story. However, this isn't the only thing. Not only is it not true to the book, but it's not even good for a movie. It leaves too much to the imagination, which I'm going to mention in a second.

First off, the book opened with the new Minister of Magic confronting the Prime Minister in his office. It was a really grand and good scene. However, Rufus Scrimgeour wasn't even in the movie, leaving out vital plot devices. He was a main antagonist in the book and caused a lot of trouble and hardships for Harry although his ambitions were good. He was a perfect example of a flawed character, a brilliant character. And yet, him and all other political figures in the book were completely gone. I expect him to be in the first deathly hallows movie. They either had to keep him in as much as the book did or write him out entirely. For a 2 hour movie I think they made the right choice.

Next, we start the movie out in some cafe with Harry hitting on some random chick. Not only do we miss out on seeing the progression of the Dursleys and their attitude towards Harry, but the fact that Harry is in love with Ginny totally goes against this. Horrid decision making on the screenwriters part. It wasn't THAT bad though.

Next, they instantly go to see Slughorn. It's a very good scene and I have no complaints. Slughorn's actor is played very well.He did not have a mustache but that is no big deal. I am just surprised because a mustache would have been so easy to do. Harry then goes to the Burrow and... BOOM they are at the Weasley joke shop then.... BOOM they are at school where their only class is seemingly Potions. Not once are they in another class, and not ONCE did Harry seem to mind that Snape was the new DAtDA teacher. This was a huge, monumental thing in the book that was discussed over all of the previous books. This REALLY should have had more emphasis put on it. There isn't even once scene of him in the class. Pathetic.

Next, he is randomly shown Dumbledore's first memory of Tom Riddle... and that is one of two memories that he sees. In the book there is a whole sub-plot on the Gaunt ring. The whole point of the subplot was to reveal that Voldemort is a blood relative of Slytherin which, apparently, isn't that important. We now have two subplots completely missing which are instead filled by moronic, unnecessary love scenes between Ron and Lavender, who, if you hadn't read the book and don't have a strong mind for minor characters, you wouldn't even know is Lavender until the movie is more than half over. Yeah, that is the first time she is called by name. Another horrible choice, not to mention horrible acting on Lavender's part. This is where the movie is bad just standing alone. If I hadn't read the book, I wouldn't have even known who she was.

Another scene I want to puke on is the Burrow on fire. Not only is it completely unnecessary and not present in the novel, but it consumes so much time that could have been used other places. Oh, and isn't it pretty awkward how it isn't even mentioned afterward what exactly happened? There is no clarification to where the Weasleys will relocate, unless I missed it. And in the following scenes, no one even seems to care. In fact, it's not even mentioned.

Another thing that bothered me from the start that happened in this scene was the apparent flight capability of the Death Eaters. I mean really? What spell is that and why can Fenris use it?That is appiration I know that in the book it is just appearing and disappearing. That does not work visually so they had to do something like that for the movie. They were shown as the cause of the destruction to England instead of the nonexistent Dementors, which also ticked me off. Seriously, that flight power wasn't available in the last movies and wasn't in the books until the Deathly Hallows where Snape and Voldemort know how, but it's nowhere near as spiffy as in the movie.

You thought I was done? Hah, no. How did Harry know how to use the bezoar on Ron when he was dying? In the novel it was because he read the line, "Shove a bezoar down his throat" in the Half Blood Prince's textbook. However, there was no explanation of this in the movie. He rummaged through Slughorn's cabinet and for some reason what it was and how to use it.

Also, while talking about Ron, where was the part where he was upset upon finding out that he really wasn't given the luck potion for the Quidditch match?

Oh, and talking about Quidditch, where was it? There was one game and no cup, leaving everyone baffled.

And speaking of baffled, how is Harry supposed to know what the other Horcruxes are now that Dumbeldore died, in the movie, before he could tell him? It was the couple seconds of pictures when harry touched the ring, I know that was a stupid way to do it and a letdown.

Oh, and speaking of Dumbedlore, whose scene on the island was nothing less than epic, it truly was spectacular, wasn't there supposed to be more substance to his death? He was begging Snape and Snape was very, very hesitant to kill him. However, in the movie it was just, "Snape, please" and then Snape did it. Big deal. Also, after DD's death, how did anyone else know that who killed him? Harry didn't tell McGonagall in the movie.

And where was the battle scene of Hogwarts?

The "duel" between Snape and Harry was horrible, too. Harry only cast one spell against Snape. In the novel, it was a whole five pages long of Harry trying to curse Snape, twice with Crucio, which didn't happen. The usage of the Unforgivable Curse by Harry is essential to show how disgustingly angry and torn he actually was. In the movie his first instinct was... Sectumsempra? Really? Did he NOT want Snape to die? There was also no emphasis on Snape's sensitivity to the word coward. His actor is wonderful and really could have belted out some great lines with great emotion at that scene, but no.

Also, going back a little, where was Harry's punishment for nearly killing Malfoy? Boy did that sure blow over.

A lot of these problems could have been fixed by not even introducing them. They could have cut all of the Quidditch, all of the burning Burrow, and half of the love crap and added a lot more vitals. And as you can see, a lot of these problems weren't even problems based off of what happened in the book. There are a lot of plot holes present in the movie that can add a lot of confusion. For example, where the Weasleys will live, where Voldemort is (no mention of him in the whole movie), how Harry will find the last Horcruxes, etc.

It's a horrible, garbage movie and I don't see how ANYONE can like it.

Don't call me a fanboy who is basing his argument off of what should have happened. There are things that needed to happen to progress the plot that simply are not present. The dialogue is rushed and awkward, and it leaves way too much to the imagination. It truly is one of the worst movies I have ever seen, even when taking the book out of the equation.

If I did not comment I agree completely.

[Hollow Golem]

Hmm.. the pictures. Yeah, in my opinion, that's actually a legitimate way to do it actually. However, everything else stands. As for apparation... come on.

[fusion duelist]

Can you think of a better way to visually show appriation?

[Hollow Golem]

Can you think of a better way to visually show appriation?

You don't need to. Why do you need to? There's no scene that requires it.

[Say†Anything]

Agreed on all points. Very disappointing movie. And yet, as my username suggest, I am a fanboy so I will be buying this movie when it is released on DVD. If only because it says Harry Potter in the title.

[redshift71388]

I haven't met anyone who liked it, actually.

[Lord Griffin]

When Dumbledore apparates with Harry there is no black smoke trail.

[Hollow Golem]

When Dumbledore apparates with Harry there is no black smoke trail.

Indeed, and it's instant. The Death Eaters seem to be able to control it and use it to fly around, instead of just teleportation.

[Lord Griffin]

Indeed, and it's instant. The Death Eaters seem to be able to control it and use it to fly around, instead of just teleportation.

I guess it's just a way to showcase their "badass"ness Hollywood style. Ehh

I mean, it is pretty wicked...but yeah.

[[Genesis]]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think the movies aren't meant to "fill everyone in." They're made for entertainment/drama/action purposes. Thank God I already read the books before the movies.

[_Gaara_]

I agree wholeheartedly. I went with a group of friend to see the midnight showing and everyone of us (except one) agreed that the movie was crap.

[jade'sdarkmagician]

If they're splitting Deathly Hallows into two movies because it's so "packed with action," then I don't see why they couldn't do the Half-Blood Prince its justice by doing the same.

[Exo]

I saw the movie yesterday. I thought it went by a lot slower than the other movies, and I just didn't like it.

It didn't have as much thrill to it as the others.

[Hollow Golem]

If all of us can agree that it's so horrible, why is it getting such good reviews? You'd think that Rottentomatoes, home of the most nit-picking prats out there, would be able to find the obvious plot-holes that the general audience can. Then again, they reviewed the third Pirates movie badly because it was "too confusing".

[Ryuzo Kiai]

On the whole "flying in dark clouds," if you think about it, in the seventh book, it explains how Voldemort was able to fly without a broomstick whenever the Death Eaters attacked Harry when the spell was broken when he became of age. Maybe they just utilized that aspect.

One thing that made me angry was the fact that the whole Ginny/Harry love deal was brought about all wrong. And I don't recollect Ron having a girlfriend in the sixth book. Or am I just senile?

[Hollow Golem]

On the whole "flying in dark clouds," if you think about it, in the seventh book, it explains how Voldemort was able to fly without a broomstick whenever the Death Eaters attacked Harry when the spell was broken when he became of age. Maybe they just utilized that aspect.

One thing that made me angry was the fact that the whole Ginny/Harry love deal was brought about all wrong. And I don't recollect Ron having a girlfriend in the sixth book. Or am I just senile?

Yeah, Voldemort and Snape could, and ONLY they could because only incredibly accomplished wizards could to so. To call Bellatrix and Fenris accomplished is like calling this a good movie.

And, yes, him and Lavender went out for, like, half of the book.

[[Genesis]]

Then again, they reviewed the third Pirates movie badly because it was "too confusing".

I have yet to figure out that game they played for Bootstrap's freedom.

[Ryuzo Kiai]

Yeah, Voldemort and Snape could, and ONLY they could because only incredibly accomplished wizards could to so. To call Bellatrix and Fenris accomplished is like calling this a good movie.

And, yes, him and Lavender went out for, like, half of the book.

Ah, ok. I haven't read the sixth book in forever, anyhoo.

Oh, in case no one's noticed, watch the second movie again. If you pay careful attention, you'll see Harry use the Sectumsempra spell against Draco in the duel they had in the Great Hall. So the directors made a mistake there as well.

[Say†Anything]

Ah, ok. I haven't read the sixth book in forever, anyhoo.

Oh, in case no one's noticed, watch the second movie again. If you pay careful attention, you'll see Harry use the Sectumsempra spell against Draco in the duel they had in the Great Hall. So the directors made a mistake there as well.

Wait, what? I've seen the film quite a few times (extended edition as well), and I don't remember seeing him or anyone else trying to use SectumSempra. The 6th book wasn't even out yet.

[Hollow Golem]

;14275859']I have yet to figure out that game they played for Bootstrap's freedom.

You essentially just bluffed at what you had until someone demanded that you show before you demanded them. However, that's really beside the point. The movie was epic and all of the characters were developed wonderfully. The plot was intense and you DID have to focus on what was going on.

Anyway, about Sectumsempra itself. If I recall correctly, it worked like an invisible sword which you can aim and choose the direction of your cuts. Hence, Snape was able to just cut off George's ear by aiming it. In the movie, it appears to just rupture all internal organs. I was hoping for a really gory scene, like it was in the book, but it didn't work out like that.

[Ryuzo Kiai]

Wait, what? I've seen the film quite a few times (extended edition as well), and I don't remember seeing him or anyone else trying to use SectumSempra. The 6th book wasn't even out yet.

Just watch the duel scene in the Great Hall in the Chamber of Secrets movie, and you will hear Harry shout out "Sectumsempra!" Guarantee it.

[fusion duelist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPhYhKdJ7k

It sounded like "rictumshempra." That spell is not in the books.

[Hollow Golem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPhYhKdJ7k

It sounded like "rictumshempra." That spell is not in the books.

The spell is "Rictusempra" the throwing spell, although it's name suggests that it's a laughing spell.

Rictusempra (Throw Charm)
Harry Potter in the Dueling Club using Rictusempra

Pronunciation: ric-tuh-SEM-pra
Description: Causes an extreme tickling sensation that, in the case of Draco Malfoy, made him drop to the floor laughing.
Seen/Mentioned: By Harry Potter on Draco Malfoy in 1992, when they fought in the Duelling Club.
Etymology: Possibly the sum of two words; The Latin rictus, meaning "The expanse of an open mouth", and semper, meaning "Always". Rictus is generally used as an expression of terror, however, "always an open mouth" would, in most cases, correspond to the act of laughing uncontrollably.

[Masterdramon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPhYhKdJ7k

It sounded like "rictumshempra." That spell is not in the books.
Richtasempra appears in extended official materials (in addition to some of the video games). It's supposed to be a "Tickling Charm."

Personally, I liked the movie. I didn't think it was great, but I wasn't expecting it to be. I came to be entertained, and I was.

And everyone I've seen it with (my father, mother, and 6 friends) have generally agreed with me. So the "it was horrible" sentiment is clearly not universal.

Not that I don't respect your opinion, Hollow Golem. Your rant is well-written, though some of the points are rather nit-picky. And things that paint them into a corner for Deathly Hallows (like the lack of explanation for the other Horcruxes) are technically not "plot holes" (though they could definitely lead to plot holes in the next movie).

A few specific things I'd like to point out, though:

The whole point of the subplot was to reveal that Voldemort is a blood relative of Slytherin which, apparently, isn't that important.
Not sure where you're getting this from, since Tom Riddle has been called the "Heir of Slytherin" since Chamber of Secrets. Removing the Gaunts removes a lot of juicy information, but this isn't it.

...that flight power wasn't available in the last movies and wasn't in the books until the Deathly Hallows where Snape and Voldemort know how, but it's nowhere near as spiffy as in the movie.
The "fighting" Apparition was used all the time in the Order of the Phoenix final battle. Watch it again; the Death Eaters are constantly using it in that scene, as are the Order of the Phoenix (though they turn into white smoke instead of black). I agree that it's a rather odd way to present Apparition, but it didn't just come out of nowhere in this movie.

You thought I was done? Hah, no. How did Harry know how to use the bezoar on Ron when he was dying? In the novel it was because he read the line, "Shove a bezoar down his throat" in the Half Blood Prince's textbook. However, there was no explanation of this in the movie. He rummaged through Slughorn's cabinet and for some reason what it was and how to use it.
If you look very closely, you'll see that the bezoar box contained instructions on what it was useful for and how to use it. Not the best way to do it, but it explains how Harry managed to do what he did.

Oh, and speaking of Dumbedlore, whose scene on the island was nothing less than epic, it truly was spectacular, wasn't there supposed to be more substance to his death? He was begging Snape and Snape was very, very hesitant to kill him. However, in the movie it was just, "Snape, please" and then Snape did it. Big deal.
Snape was hesitant to kill him in his mind of course, but I saw no evidence in the book that he visibly hesitated (as that would have given away their ruse). I had problems with many scenes in the movie, but not this one. It was played pretty darn close to how I envisioned in in my head.

And where was the battle scene of Hogwarts?
This one David Yates explained in an interview a few weeks ago. He said that he took out the scene in order to prevent the second, much larger Battle of Hogwarts (in Deathly Hallows Part 2) seem less redundant and more epic. Since very little of the actual battle is seen in the book, I'd actually have to agree with that decision. But I understand why it would definitely tick some people off.

In the movie his first instinct was... Sectumsempra? Really? Did he NOT want Snape to die?
To be fair, Harry attempts to use Sectumsempra in the book as well. In fact, he tries to use about everything in his arsenal. As for cutting his attempted Cruciatus Curse, again I think that Yates was going for less redundancy, since he had already done it (with much more poignancy) with Harry vs. Bellatrix in Order of the Phoenix.

So again, personally I liked the movie. It was basically the same quality as Order of the Phoenix which was what I expected, and so both my praise and my complaints about that movie carry onto this one.

So that's my (for lack of a better term) "rant." Hope y'all liked it (or at least aren't angry enough to flame me about it, LOL). :D

[Ryuzo Kiai]

Once again...I fail.

[Hollow Golem]

I've never seen the fifth, so I guess I wouldn't have known that. Your points are valid, and he may have made the right choice editing out the battle scene and the Cruciatus usage, as he uses it again along with the Imperius curse, both successfully, in the last book. The bezoar thing is weak as is, I still believe, the Snape killing Dumbeldore scene. It took more than one line of begging for Snape to kill him, and I actually think that the time it took was so long that Bellatrix told him to hurry up.

You're all free to like it, I'm not trying to convince you guys not to, I'm just sharing problems that I think occur. I just didn't think that the movie did the book any justice. It was my second favorite, behind the Deathly Hallows, and I really wanted to sit through an epic, four hour, adventure like the last Lord of the Rings. You can say that that is too long, but one of the best movies, and best book interpretations of all time was the last Lord of the Rings, and it's run time was four hours and ten minutes.

[jade'sdarkmagician]

I was hoping for a really gory scene, like it was in the book, but it didn't work out like that.

Same here. It would have been cool to see Malfoy bleeding-out like the Persians in 300.

[Masterdramon]

I've never seen the fifth, so I guess I wouldn't have known that. Your points are valid, and he may have made the right choice editing out the battle scene and the Cruciatus usage, as he uses it again along with the Imperius curse, both successfully, in the last book. The bezoar thing is weak as is, I still believe, the Snape killing Dumbeldore scene. It took more than one line of begging for Snape to kill him, and I actually think that the time it took was so long that Bellatrix told him to hurry up.

You're all free to like it, I'm not trying to convince you guys not to, I'm just sharing problems that I think occur. I just didn't think that the movie did the book any justice. It was my second favorite, behind the Deathly Hallows, and I really wanted to sit through an epic, four hour, adventure like the last Lord of the Rings. You can say that that is too long, but one of the best movies, and best book interpretations of all time was the last Lord of the Rings, and it's run time was four hours and ten minutes.
Bellatrix tells Draco to hurry up, not Snape. I'll transcribe the scene from the book, from the point when Snape enters the room:

"Draco, do it or stand aside so one of us -" screeched the woman, but at that precise moment, the door to the ramparts burst open once more and there stood Snape, his wand clutched in his hand as his black eyes swept the scene, from Dumbledore slumped against the wall, to the four Death Eaters, including the enraged werewolf, and Malfoy.

"We've got a problem, Snape," said the lumpy Amycus, whose eyes and wand were fixed alike upon Dumbledore, "the boy doesn't seem able -"

But somebody else had spoken Snape's name, quite softly.

"Severus..."

The soudn frightened Harry beyond anything he had experienced all evening. For the first time, Dumbledore was pleading.

Snape said nothing, but walked forward and pushed Malfoy roughly out of the way. The three Death Eaters fell back without a word. Even the werewolf seemed cowed.

Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face.

"Severus...please..."

Snape raised his wand and pointed it directly at Dumbledore.

"Avada Kedavra!"

A jet of green light shot from the end of Snape's wand and hit Dumbledore squarely in the chest. Harry's scream of horror never left him; silent and unmoving, he was forced to watch as Dumbledore was blasted into the air. For a split second, he seemed to hand suspended beneath the shining skull, and then he fell slowly backward, like a great rag doll, over the battlements and out of sight.
[Whew...I'm never doing that again...]

Anyway, as you can see very little in this particular seen was lost in translation. Snape has a mental battle with himself, but it is very quick and in any event the audience is not supposed to pick up on it.

[Hollow Golem]

Bellatrix tells Draco to hurry up, not Snape. I'll transcribe the scene from the book, from the point when Snape enters the room:


[Whew...I'm never doing that again...]

Anyway, as you can see very little in this particular seen was lost in translation. Snape has a mental battle with himself, but it is very quick and in any event the audience is not supposed to pick up on it.

Ehhh... fine, fine. I still would've liked to see more emotion out of DD though.

[redshift71388]

You know, I also noted that the film never explained that Greyback was a werewolf. An obvious fact for the majority of people that read the book, but someone who hadn't would have assumed he was an ugly Death Eater.

[Hollow Golem]

You know, I also noted that the film never explained that Greyback was a werewolf. An obvious fact for the majority of people that read the book, but someone who hadn't would have assumed he was an ugly Death Eater.

Wow, really? I assumed they must have covered it earlier. I know that they didn't cover it in this movie, but I thought maybe in the previous ones that it was explained.

[redshift71388]

Wow, really? I assumed they must have covered it earlier. I know that they didn't cover it in this movie, but I thought maybe in the previous ones that it was explained.
Greyback was introduced in Book 6 though, so he wouldn't have been in any of the previous movies. However, since he never transforms in the books and the confrontation with Bill was cut out completely in this film, I wonder if non-readers will ever know what he is. :rolleyes:

But we do know the wedding will be in the seventh movie (Part 1), somehow, because of pictures of the trio in their fancy outfits. Bill will be scarless, and the wedding will be someplace not burned down. *sigh* What a mess.

[Say†Anything]

I think the 7/8th movies will have to do a lot of explaining through characters "recalling events" that were left out of the latest movie.

With scenes like the wedding there will be dialogue somewhere explaining how the house was fixed and what happened to Bills face.

Dealing with Horcruxes, Harry will probably have to tell a back-story in film 7 so movie goers aren't completely lost on how he knows where to look for the Horcruxes.

I for one wouldn't care if the movies were four hours long. If nothing else it would make the $10 ticket price and the $15 for a drink and popcorn feel worth it.

[Masterdramon]

You know, I also noted that the film never explained that Greyback was a werewolf. An obvious fact for the majority of people that read the book, but someone who hadn't would have assumed he was an ugly Death Eater.
I was actually expecting him to transform in the Burrow scene, given Tonks' comment that tonight was "the first night of the cycle." Something that never happened in the book, but as long as you're adding a scene wholesale, one that would have been interesting to see.

Though honestly, I would have been fine if they had just given Greyback more than one line. They did a good job spreading Greyback around the movie (limiting the named Death Eaters to him and Bellatrix was a good idea IMHO in a movie this short), but I was rather disappointed that we got to hear so little from him, a character that even in printed form gave me chills.

My guess is that they will skip Bill being attacked by Greyback, given that it has so little effect on Deathly Hallows. Bill is a major character there, but beyond ordering bloody steaks very little of his personality changes, so leaving out the scars won't adversely affect the story.

The Burrow will probably be explained in a comment about the Order pitching in to repair and protect the house now that it is serving as their headquarters.

[grim mouser]

Agree with OP 100%. So many plot holes, needless scenes, and unnecessary plot modifications were in the movie.

I also wouldn't care if the movies were four hours long. =)

[AirUpThere]

This movie was complete trash. The only reason it did well in box office is because it was the best book and everyone who didn't read the books but somewhat watched the movies wanted to see "dumbledore die".

And what was up with the Burrow being destroyed? What is that crap?

[grim mouser]

That was arguably the worst part. It was never mentioned again, and was seemingly a filler (why the hell would the movie have filler!?) scene.

They made it seem like something minor.

Harry/Ginny scene... Ron butts in...

Burrow on fire...

Back to Hogwarts...

[AirUpThere]

The Harry/Ginny thing was nothing like the book. The movie seemed more about love and romance rather than who the half blood prince is and voldemorts childhood.

What about his mother?

[Masterdramon]

Alright then, let's turn the discussion to something more constructive.

If you were the director, how would you have handled the film differently? Keep in mind the level of control that a director has in your response. For example, "Make it four hours long" is not a reasonable answer because that isn't up to the director. The studio has pretty clearly decided that four-hour movies are generally not marketable to their target audience, and regardless of whether or not you agree with that David Yates was never given the choice to make a four-hour Harry Potter film.

So in two-and-a-half to three hours, explain how you would have handled Half-Blood Prince.

[redshift71388]

So in two-and-a-half to three hours, explain how you would have handled Half-Blood Prince.
Well my main goal would be to replace the Burrow scene with something canonical and relevant. I'd lean towards Hokey's memory. Then I would try to give the movie a darker overtone rather than focus so much on the romance. A few lines here and there to fill the missing crucial elements, and presto.

[AirUpThere]

I believe you are mistaken when you say the director has no control over the length of a movie. The director usually sits down and edits the film, deciding how long scenes are and what goes in the movie. I am sure the director could have made the movie shorter if they wanted to.

Anyways, the movie focused on romance. That was the central theme with some comedy on the side to appeal to the general audience.

I would have focused more on the actual plot of the story. The romance would develop around the character tensions of the plot. The obsession of Lavander was just too much. There should have been more scenes with Dumbledore and his look at memories thing (lol forget name havn't read potter in a couple years). It was awesome reading about the past of Voldemort, there were only like 3 scenes of this in the movie. They should have focused more on the Half Blood Prince, such as having more detail about searching to find the Half Blood Prince. The whole thing with Malfoy was terrible too. They focused way too much on that, it should have just been revealed at the end what he was doing with just random scenes of him entering the room during the movie. The fight between Snape and Harry was pathetic. The ending climax with the Harecrox was terrible and rushed. It was almost randomly thrown in there out of the blue.

The most important thing is TO FOLLOW THE STORY. The only reason these movies are even created is because the books were wonderful. Follow the book, it is a built in script that cannot fail. You will appeal to Potter fans and the general audience. Changing scenes, such as the Burrow being destroyed (obviously added to make that scene more dramatic) and Harry and Ginny kissing the room (changed to make it more artsy and to use that lame "i can disappear line"). Just follow the book.

[grim mouser]

Assuming Yates had no control over whether the movie could have been split like 7 will be:

1) Remove the Burrow burning. Pointless scene.

2) Remove most of the romance scenes, but the ones that remain would need to be logical. Make Harry's secret love for Ginny evident, as in the book.

3) Remove the WWW shop scene. Given how the Peruvian powder wasn't used, the entire scene is useless.

4) Build on Harry's stalking of Draco. He was shown watching the map- good scene. However, Harry never really was shown to figure out he was in the Room of Requirement. Also, remove Ginny from said scene.

5) Remove Quidditch from the movie. It wasn't significant enough, and took up a lot of time. Relocate Felix Felicis use to Harry's friends during the Death Eater attack.

6) Put the Dursley family back in. If this won't fit, remove Harry's restaurant scene, let him get picked up randomly wandering the subways, and build on the Slughorn scene. It was good.

7) Add more Pensieve scenes.

8) Tone down the early-movie Death Eater scenes to allow the Prime Minister scene.

9) Allow Harry to show some shock/anger about Snape becoming the DADA teacher.

10) Get rid of the Slug Club party scene/dinner scene. To retain the idea that Slughorn is fond of Harry, build on the scenes that talk about Lily.

11) Remove the concert-style light vigil thing succeeding DD's death. Replace with funeral scene.

I could probably think of more, but none ATM.

[redshift71388]

3) Remove the WWW shop scene. Given how the Peruvian powder wasn't used, the entire scene is useless.
Actually, Harry used it to sneak into Draco's train compartment. But that didn't happen in the book. Instead, Draco used it as a cover when leading Death Eaters out of the Room of Requirement.

[grim mouser]

>.< I knew that, and somehow disregarded it. I guess I was thinking of it only in the way it was used in the book.

[Masterdramon]

I believe you are mistaken when you say the director has no control over the length of a movie. The director usually sits down and edits the film, deciding how long scenes are and what goes in the movie. I am sure the director could have made the movie shorter if they wanted to.
Of course he does, but there's a difference between having control over the exact length of the movie and making it four hours long. I guarantee you that if Yates had come to Warner Brothers and said, "I want to make Half-Blood Prince four hours long," they would have refused. The studio has the final say, and at the end of the day the studio is only interested in how much money the movie can make them.

Take Watchmen for example. Now, I thought that it was an incredible movie and an excellent adaptation. But it underperformed at the box office because it was so long. A sizable chunk of the audience simply doesn't have the patience/attention span for a movie long enough to fully do justice to a printed work.

So, you have to make sacrifices if you want the studio to believe that your film will be profitable to them.

Incidentally, interesting comments from all of you. Much more fun to read than constant complaints and out-of-place hyperbole.

[AirUpThere]

Assuming Yates had no control over whether the movie could have been split like 7 will be:

1) Remove the Burrow burning. Pointless scene.

2) Remove most of the romance scenes, but the ones that remain would need to be logical. Make Harry's secret love for Ginny evident, as in the book.

3) Remove the WWW shop scene. Given how the Peruvian powder wasn't used, the entire scene is useless.

4) Build on Harry's stalking of Draco. He was shown watching the map- good scene. However, Harry never really was shown to figure out he was in the Room of Requirement. Also, remove Ginny from said scene.

5) Remove Quidditch from the movie. It wasn't significant enough, and took up a lot of time. Relocate Felix Felicis use to Harry's friends during the Death Eater attack.

6) Put the Dursley family back in. If this won't fit, remove Harry's restaurant scene, let him get picked up randomly wandering the subways, and build on the Slughorn scene. It was good.

7) Add more Pensieve scenes.

8) Tone down the early-movie Death Eater scenes to allow the Prime Minister scene.

9) Allow Harry to so some shock/anger about Snape becoming the DADA teacher.

10) Get rid of the Slug Club party scene/dinner scene. To retain the idea that Slughorn is fond of Harry, build on the scenes that talk about Lily.

11) Remove the concert-style light vigil thing succeeding DD's death. Replace with funeral scene.

I could probably think of more, but none ATM.

Very good points here. BTW, how was the 5th movie? It is the only one I have not seen and I am thinking about running out and renting it tonight.

[grim mouser]

Better than this one. =\

I'd rank it fourth best.

[AirUpThere]

Can you give me your order from best to worse?

[Professor Chaos]

Bad but better than the first 4.

[grim mouser]

Can you give me your order from best to worse?

In my opinion...

1) Philosopher's Stone

2) Chamber of Secrets

3) Goblet of Fire

4) Order of the Phoenix

5) Prisoner of Azkaban

6) Half-Blood Prince

[Hollow Golem]

In my opinion...

1) Philosopher's Stone

2) Chamber of Secrets

3) Goblet of Fire

4) Order of the Phoenix

5) Prisoner of Azkaban

6) Half-Blood Prince

I couldn't agree more. I hated Prisoner of Azkaban. The first two followed fairly closely, and I even enjoyed the first as it was almost word for word from the book.

[grim mouser]

Yeah, I always liked the quotes from the book.

[Say†Anything]

PoA was/is my favorite HP movie. I've never read the book, though. How different are the two. Is it as different as Half-blood Prince?

[grim mouser]

Not quite as much. However, the radical change from robes to regular clothes, the diversion from the book's lines, etc. make it pretty bad for some (most?) fans of the book series.

[Hollow Golem]

Not quite as much. However, the radical change from robes to regular clothes, the diversion from the book's lines, etc. make it pretty bad for some (most?) fans of the book series.

Peter Pettigrew looks stupid. Lupin was nothing as I imagined, and Sirius was only a little bit what I imagined. The normal clothes did not fit. That's why I hate it.

[AirUpThere]

Ya PoA was horrible. I kinda liked Goblet of Fire, stilled waiting to see OfP.

[Masterdramon]

Personally, my order:

1. Order of the Phoenix
2. Half-Blood Prince
3. Prisoner of Azkaban
4. Philosopher's/Sorceror's Stone
5. Chamber of Secrets
6. Goblet of Fire

I find it interesting that it's almost a complete inverse from some of the other lists.

[grim mouser]

Interesting indeed. Reasoning?

[King Ice]

I do not .

[Masterdramon]

Interesting indeed. Reasoning?
I think that it stems from a fundamental difference between what I am looking for in an adaptation, as opposed to what most of the other people in this thread are looking for.

You all are looking for an adaptation of the book.

I am looking for an adaptation of the story.

A major flaw of both Chamber of Secrets and Goblet of Fire is their lack of flow. Both just play as one scene from the book, then another scene from the book, then another scene from the book, etc.

I have no problems with adding scenes, deleting scenes, changing what character says what, etc. is it allows for more cohesiveness across the film as a whole. With the exception of the Grawp scene, which was painful to watch, Order of the Phoenix clearly did this best. David Yates may cut the most from the books but, IMHO, he preserves the essentials of the story the best. I particularly enjoyed his depiction of Umbridge's regime, which goes far beyond what the book describes (with many more Ministry Decrees, for instance), getting across the same essential truths about Umbridge while using fewer overall scenes.

Any thoughts?

[Professor Chaos]

I think that it stems from a fundamental difference between what I am looking for in an adaptation, as opposed to what most of the other people in this thread are looking for.

You all are looking for an adaptation of the book.

I am looking for an adaptation of the story.

A major flaw of both Chamber of Secrets and Goblet of Fire is their lack of flow. Both just play as one scene from the book, then another scene from the book, then another scene from the book, etc.

I have no problems with adding scenes, deleting scenes, changing what character says what, etc. is it allows for more cohesiveness across the film as a whole. With the exception of the Grawp scene, which was painful to watch, Order of the Phoenix clearly did this best. David Yates may cut the most from the books but, IMHO, he preserves the essentials of the story the best. I particularly enjoyed his depiction of Umbridge's regime, which goes far beyond what the book describes (with many more Ministry Decrees, for instance), getting across the same essential truths about Umbridge while using fewer overall scenes.

Any thoughts?

Word but Poa was terrible.

[grim mouser]

I agree with your reasoning. I still feel that HBP was horrible in adapting the story, though. All emphasis was taken off the main idea of figuring out Voldemort's past. Instead, there were confusing scenes (Burrow burning) and random romance scenes. It didn't seem to flow well, IMO.

[Hollow Golem]

I think that it stems from a fundamental difference between what I am looking for in an adaptation, as opposed to what most of the other people in this thread are looking for.

You all are looking for an adaptation of the book.

I am looking for an adaptation of the story.

A major flaw of both Chamber of Secrets and Goblet of Fire is their lack of flow. Both just play as one scene from the book, then another scene from the book, then another scene from the book, etc.

I have no problems with adding scenes, deleting scenes, changing what character says what, etc. is it allows for more cohesiveness across the film as a whole. With the exception of the Grawp scene, which was painful to watch, Order of the Phoenix clearly did this best. David Yates may cut the most from the books but, IMHO, he preserves the essentials of the story the best. I particularly enjoyed his depiction of Umbridge's regime, which goes far beyond what the book describes (with many more Ministry Decrees, for instance), getting across the same essential truths about Umbridge while using fewer overall scenes.

Any thoughts?

I can agree with this.

[0DQuV0]

My opinion:
1. Goblet of Fire
2. Half Blood Prince
3. Prisoner of Azkaban
4. Sorcerer's Stone
5. Order of the Phoenix
6. Chamber of Secrets

The new movie i agree has left out some major parts of the book but it has the most important parts.. After i saw the movie i was somewhat sad because they left out the whole battle at the end of the book but i looked it up and the director said that they don't want repitition because the next movies are going to end in a war also.
This movie also got me REALLY hyped about the next 2 movies because you can tell both are gonna be action packed :D

[Secret Squirrel]

In the movie, it appears to just rupture all internal organs. I was hoping for a really gory scene, like it was in the book, but it didn't work out like that.

It's a little unreasonable to expect something like that in a HP movie.. I would think that they would want to keep it PG, so that rules out a lot of violent stuff.

I do agree with a lot of your points, especially that the Wizard fight at the end should have been way more epic. I mean, we get a fight with Malfloy and a Quidditch match and the weird running-through-cornfields-scene.. should have been more action.


Despite its many flaws though, I actually liked the movie. I liked how a lot of the scenes were gray.. really conveyed the depressed/tense mood. The only main disappointing thing is what I mentioned above which was that there could have been more fun action (although the cave seen was cool). It had a handful of LOL moments, and the Slughorn scenes were well done. Overall, pretty enjoyable to see stuff on the big screen.

[whereisjoey]

I just wrote this up. Hope you like it.

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Are you all stupid? Seriously, go watch Twilight. This movie left out so many points from the book that it's not even funny. Literally, the things they left out were vital to the story. However, this isn't the only thing. Not only is it not true to the book, but it's not even good for a movie. It leaves too much to the imagination, which I'm going to mention in a second.

First off, the book opened with the new Minister of Magic confronting the Prime Minister in his office. It was a really grand and good scene. However, Rufus Scrimgeour wasn't even in the movie, leaving out vital plot devices. He was a main antagonist in the book and caused a lot of trouble and hardships for Harry although his ambitions were good. He was a perfect example of a flawed character, a brilliant character. And yet, him and all other political figures in the book were completely gone.

Next, we start the movie out in some cafe with Harry hitting on some random chick. Not only do we miss out on seeing the progression of the Dursleys and their attitude towards Harry, but the fact that Harry is in love with Ginny totally goes against this. Horrid decision making on the screenwriters part. It wasn't THAT bad though.

Next, they instantly go to see Slughorn. It's a very good scene and I have no complaints. Slughorn's actor is played very well. Harry then goes to the Burrow and... BOOM they are at the Weasley joke shop then.... BOOM they are at school where their only class is seemingly Potions. Not once are they in another class, and not ONCE did Harry seem to mind that Snape was the new DAtDA teacher. This was a huge, monumental thing in the book that was discussed over all of the previous books. This REALLY should have had more emphasis put on it. There isn't even once scene of him in the class. Pathetic.

Next, he is randomly shown Dumbledore's first memory of Tom Riddle... and that is one of two memories that he sees. In the book there is a whole sub-plot on the Gaunt ring. The whole point of the subplot was to reveal that Voldemort is a blood relative of Slytherin which, apparently, isn't that important. We now have two subplots completely missing which are instead filled by moronic, unnecessary love scenes between Ron and Lavender, who, if you hadn't read the book and don't have a strong mind for minor characters, you wouldn't even know is Lavender until the movie is more than half over. Yeah, that is the first time she is called by name. Another horrible choice, not to mention horrible acting on Lavender's part. This is where the movie is bad just standing alone. If I hadn't read the book, I wouldn't have even known who she was.

Another scene I want to puke on is the Burrow on fire. Not only is it completely unnecessary and not present in the novel, but it consumes so much time that could have been used other places. Oh, and isn't it pretty awkward how it isn't even mentioned afterward what exactly happened? There is no clarification to where the Weasleys will relocate, unless I missed it. And in the following scenes, no one even seems to care. In fact, it's not even mentioned.

Another thing that bothered me from the start that happened in this scene was the apparent flight capability of the Death Eaters. I mean really? What spell is that and why can Fenris use it? They were shown as the cause of the destruction to England instead of the nonexistent Dementors, which also ticked me off. Seriously, that flight power wasn't available in the last movies and wasn't in the books until the Deathly Hallows where Snape and Voldemort know how, but it's nowhere near as spiffy as in the movie.

You thought I was done? Hah, no. How did Harry know how to use the bezoar on Ron when he was dying? In the novel it was because he read the line, "Shove a bezoar down his throat" in the Half Blood Prince's textbook. However, there was no explanation of this in the movie. He rummaged through Slughorn's cabinet and for some reason what it was and how to use it.

Also, while talking about Ron, where was the part where he was upset upon finding out that he really wasn't given the luck potion for the Quidditch match?

Oh, and talking about Quidditch, where was it? There was one game and no cup, leaving everyone baffled.

And speaking of baffled, how is Harry supposed to know what the other Horcruxes are now that Dumbeldore died, in the movie, before he could tell him?

Oh, and speaking of Dumbedlore, whose scene on the island was nothing less than epic, it truly was spectacular, wasn't there supposed to be more substance to his death? He was begging Snape and Snape was very, very hesitant to kill him. However, in the movie it was just, "Snape, please" and then Snape did it. Big deal. Also, after DD's death, how did anyone else know that who killed him? Harry didn't tell McGonagall in the movie.

And where was the battle scene of Hogwarts?

The "duel" between Snape and Harry was horrible, too. Harry only cast one spell against Snape. In the novel, it was a whole five pages long of Harry trying to curse Snape, twice with Crucio, which didn't happen. The usage of the Unforgivable Curse by Harry is essential to show how disgustingly angry and torn he actually was. In the movie his first instinct was... Sectumsempra? Really? Did he NOT want Snape to die? There was also no emphasis on Snape's sensitivity to the word coward. His actor is wonderful and really could have belted out some great lines with great emotion at that scene, but no.

Also, going back a little, where was Harry's punishment for nearly killing Malfoy? Boy did that sure blow over.

A lot of these problems could have been fixed by not even introducing them. They could have cut all of the Quidditch, all of the burning Burrow, and half of the love crap and added a lot more vitals. And as you can see, a lot of these problems weren't even problems based off of what happened in the book. There are a lot of plot holes present in the movie that can add a lot of confusion. For example, where the Weasleys will live, where Voldemort is (no mention of him in the whole movie), how Harry will find the last Horcruxes, etc.

It's a horrible, garbage movie and I don't see how ANYONE can like it.

Don't call me a fanboy who is basing his argument off of what should have happened. There are things that needed to happen to progress the plot that simply are not present. The dialogue is rushed and awkward, and it leaves way too much to the imagination. It truly is one of the worst movies I have ever seen, even when taking the book out of the equation.


Harry Potter and Twilight are overated

[redshift71388]

Harry Potter and Twilight are overated
That was quite an unnecessarily big thing to quote for such a non-constructive argument.

[katei4]

Hey,I also agree.I enjoyed watching movie.But it was not as per expectation.Thrill and action were less as compared to book.All character were looking great as they are grown up now.

Rest is...must watch movie for harry potter lovers.

Enjoy......:p

[Hollow Golem]

Hey,I also agree.I enjoyed watching movie.But it was not as per expectation.Thrill and action were less as compared to book.All character were looking great as they are grown up now.

Rest is...must watch movie for harry potter lovers.

Enjoy......:p

Agree with what? I think we can all agree that you are a moron for not even bothering to read the thread.

[VegitoTheMaster]

I like the new harry potter movie and i agree some bits in the film was totally ponitless and one thing i like about the film is that harry potter characters get more screentime in this one and i don't even read the harry potter books and i don't careless if the film has nothing to do with the book.

[Ryuzo Kiai]

The fact that Gryffindor won the House Cup, won the Quidditch tournament, and Ginny and Harry dating was completely omitted in the movie made the whole thing just...bleh. Yeah, they kissed. Big freakin' whoop. They had a great time together and a teary ending, not to mention how Ron felt about the situation.

I dunno. I hope the seventh movie is better. =/

[Say†Anything]

The fact that Gryffindor won the House Cup, won the Quidditch tournament, and Ginny and Harry dating was completely omitted in the movie made the whole thing just...bleh. Yeah, they kissed. Big freakin' whoop. They had a great time together and a teary ending, not to mention how Ron felt about the situation.

Maybe this is the reason I didn't like the last movie. Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince had no depth. Nothing that happened in the movie seemed to have an impact on the Harry Potter world. Every scene is that movie could have been replaced by Harry Potter and the Gang doing something Harry Potterish and it wouldn't change the impact the movie had on the series.

Thank god I've read the book.

[Rubber Ducky]

HBP was funnier, and...that's about it.

One thing I disliked was
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You could kind of tell that Dumbledore was telling Snape to kill him. Even my mom, who knows next to nothing about Harry Potter, said "The poor old man just wanted out". I think the actor should've actually acted scared.

[BassGS]

This movie's purpose was to give those who read the book a "visual aid" of sorts. Of course, I liked the way I imagined it better.

This movie was lame, though... Wasn't Bellatrix supposed to come out a lot more than she did? I ♥ Helena Bonham Carter, haha

[Masterdramon]

This movie's purpose was to give those who read the book a "visual aid" of sorts. Of course, I liked the way I imagined it better.

This movie was lame, though... Wasn't Bellatrix supposed to come out a lot more than she did? I ♥ Helena Bonham Carter, haha
On the contrary; the movie added Bellatrix far more than it subtracted her. For example, Bellatrix is not present in the attack on Hogwarts in the book, but is inserted in the movie (more or less replacing the characters of Amycus and Alecto Carrow).

This is one of the changes that I personally would have made myself. Limiting the pool of Death Eaters makes each individual one more threatening.

[BassGS]

On the contrary; the movie added Bellatrix far more than it subtracted her. For example, Bellatrix is not present in the attack on Hogwarts in the book, but is inserted in the movie (more or less replacing the characters of Amycus and Alecto Carrow).

This is one of the changes that I personally would have made myself. Limiting the pool of Death Eaters makes each individual one more threatening.

Maybe my memory's a little fuzzy, but I just saw glimpses of her, nothing more. Maybe more than I thought, but still only glimpses.

[Masterdramon]

Maybe my memory's a little fuzzy, but I just saw glimpses of her, nothing more. Maybe more than I thought, but still only glimpses.
She is in, as far as I can tell, every scene that she appeared in in the book, as well as added into a few others. She is present, as I stated, in the Astronomy Tower and throughout the attack on Hogwarts, as well as in the added scene at the Burrow.

Considering that the movie actually contains more Bellatrix than the book, your complaint makes absolutely no sense.

[BassGS]

She is in, as far as I can tell, every scene that she appeared in in the book, as well as added into a few others. She is present, as I stated, in the Astronomy Tower and throughout the attack on Hogwarts, as well as in the added scene at the Burrow.

Considering that the movie actually contains more Bellatrix than the book, your complaint makes absolutely no sense.

I meant that she doesn't appear on-screen for long periods of time.

[Masterdramon]

I meant that she doesn't appear on-screen for long periods of time.
But then that's a complaint about the book, not the movie. If you wanted more Bellatrix in Half-Blood Prince (personally, I was fine with her level of appearance in that installment, given how ascendant she is in Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows), then that's the fault of J.K. Rowling, not David Yates or anyone else who worked on the movie.

[IgoogleStuff]

Nerd Rage. Really, be quiet.

[megamanX3]

Harry Potter and Twilight are the worst things to ever be made in the history of mankind. They make no sense, are pointless, and people seem to worship them.

[tylar122]

Because its new.

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Harry Potter and Twilight are the worst things to ever be made in the history of mankind. They make no sense, are pointless, and people seem to worship them.

Pointless? It's entertainment is it not?

Now your avatar show's your stupidity. If anything is pointless, it's the fake wrestling that you seem to like. Yet it's entertainment and worth a watch to you? I think you'd agree...

Anyway, I personally liked the new Harry Potter movie, I disliked the burrow burning, but I'm not the director am I?