Balanced Brawl

[Pentasalia]

So this is a new version of brawl people have been creating
it isn't brawl+ but it's supposed to make everyone as good as diddy kong
which is supposedly the new average

and ganon is pwn now

here's the link

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=239604



really not a bad idea
but i think they're going to have trouble attracting people to it

some seem to already love it though,so we'll see

[strike42]

i dont mind it, i can really feel a difference like there is in brawl+. tho captain falcons good. so that's a plus.

[Tisiphone]

a clip of ike with balanced brawl hacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z5HyBYWvMg&feature=channel_page

[Fluga]

BB will end up like B+... not even viable.

[Tisiphone]

I like what they did to Ganon's moveset; now that's a Ganon.

[Pentasalia]

B+ fails though
this doesn't lol

[strike42]

B+ fails though
this doesn't lol

i like brawl+ better than this.

[Pentasalia]

that you means you fail too lol

[Kopaka of Ice]

I say both of these fail.

As much as I love Ganondorf, it's pretty blatant they tried semi-subtly overpowering him. Ganondorf doesn't need hacks to be awesome, he just needs prediction and countering, the way any major boss character should. Now if only the computer could learn that and stop being so FAIL with him.

[Fluga]

I say both of these fail.

As much as I love Ganondorf, it's pretty blatant they tried semi-subtly overpowering him. Ganondorf doesn't need hacks to be awesome, he just needs prediction and countering, the way any major boss character should. Now if only the computer could learn that and stop being so FAIL with him.

No. Ganon dies to really dumb stuff in vB and he loses to anyone that is faster or that has a projectile. He's really really bad and these buffs give him more power than before.

[rocklee10]

If you need hacks to win, you might be a red neck/scrub.

[Pentasalia]

coming from someone who mains a broken character lol

ganon needs his improvements
in order to even stand a chance against characters like snake and MK lol

[strike42]

If you need hacks to win, you might be a red neck/scrub.

how does red neck even fit here, and think of this as another version of brawl. at better one where characters at least stand a chance against top tier characters.

[rocklee10]

If G&W can beat MK, and Fox can beat Diddy, than Ganon can beat Snake. Aside from that, I've seen videos on YouTube (at the library, my comp can't use YT V.V) of Pro Ganons against Pro Snakes, and most of the time, Snake did win, but I've never seen Ganon move like that.

Again, if you have to cheat or change the rules of a game to win, you don't truly deserve it.

[Pentasalia]

did you even read the thread lol

the game is clearly unbalanced
i mean
the ganon player has to be preeeeettty epic
to beat a decent snake or MK

that's how unbalanced it is

i dont think you'd understand lol
since most of your mains are high tier and up
not that there's anything wrong with that

[strike42]

If G&W can beat MK, and Fox can beat Diddy, than Ganon can beat Snake. Aside from that, I've seen videos on YouTube (at the library, my comp can't use YT V.V) of Pro Ganons against Pro Snakes, and most of the time, Snake did win, but I've never seen Ganon move like that.

Again, if you have to cheat or change the rules of a game to win, you don't truly deserve it.

we are not cheating, where balancing the game the best we can since Nintendo ****ed it up. the Mario vs meta fight is nearly impossible in regular brawl.

[rocklee10]

Yes, yes I did.

So why practice and get better when you can hack your character and make him/her better?

What Fighting game is totally balanced? I don't have an XBox 360, but I don't recall people making a Street Fighter 4+.

You got me there, my lowest character is Fox, though I have taken down some pretty good MK's & Snake's.

[strike42]

Yes, yes I did.

So why practice and get better when you can hack your character and make him/her better?

What Fighting game is totally balanced? I don't have an XBox 360, but I don't recall people making a Street Fighter 4+.

You got me there, my lowest character is Fox, though I have taken down some pretty good MK's & Snake's.

where not making characters "omg brokens, i win derp derp" where just balancing then out so everyone can have a "fair" chance. sure there will still be bad matchups, but they wont be as bad as before. and we cant make a sf4+ cuz there is no need to, the lowest character can win against the best character in that game. also we don't have the means of modding the xbox/ps3 one, i believe.

[Near]

So is there/what is the version that feels most like Melee?

By that I mean how faster paced it was, the longer hitstun, etc.
[I'm not talking about advanced techs, just the basic gameplay and physics]

[Redshift]

Shifty disapproves. May Sakurai's ninjas spare you mercy.

[strike42]

So is there/what is the version that feels most like Melee?

By that I mean how faster paced it was, the longer hitstun, etc.
[I'm not talking about advanced techs, just the basic gameplay and physics]

that would be brawl+, tho nothing we can do can really make this game into melee.

[Fluga]

If G&W can beat MK, and Fox can beat Diddy, than Ganon can beat Snake. Aside from that, I've seen videos on YouTube (at the library, my comp can't use YT V.V) of Pro Ganons against Pro Snakes, and most of the time, Snake did win, but I've never seen Ganon move like that.

Again, if you have to cheat or change the rules of a game to win, you don't truly deserve it.

Lol wut. Ganon always loses to Snake. Its 80-20 to Snake. 'Nades kill Ganon badly. The only thing Ganon has against Snake is DI.

[rocklee10]

Lol wut. Ganon always loses to Snake. Its 80-20 to Snake. 'Nades kill Ganon badly. The only thing Ganon has against Snake is DI.

So Ally sucks because he just barely beat a Ganon? (Trust me, is was close.) So I guess M2K sucks because he lost to a 12 year old who used Ness, right?

This argument can go on forever, so I guess we should just agree to disagree.

[Pentasalia]

if you don't like this version, don't play it
please,let's get this back on topic

[Zaffy]

So Ally sucks because he just barely beat a Ganon? (Trust me, is was close.) So I guess M2K sucks because he lost to a 12 year old who used Ness, right?

Actually, I'd say that's more because they hadn't practiced the matchup.

Tell me, which would you know the moveset and abillities of more? Put these in order:
Lucas
Metaknight
Pokemon trainer
Snake
Link
Diddy
Dedede

Now, it'd probably go something like:
Metaknight/Snake
Dedede
Diddy
Pokemon Trainer
Lucas
Link

Simply because, you play against the better characters more, you learn them more. M2K has played against thousands of top tier characters, but a low tier character is suprising. He just didn't know what Ness could do.

Anyway, back on topic

I don't like the sound of the ZSS dsmash being altered, i'm not sure if that means you can still do 2 in a row or not, or if it's just stopping one from just dsmash 10 times over against... fox i think it is, or wolf.

[JWT2k6]

I guess I like the Ganon changes >_>;

But I pwn with Ganon already. /gloat /sucksatBrawl

[Fluffanator7777]

Fluff Ninja says no. O_O

[Fluga]

So Ally sucks because he just barely beat a Ganon? (Trust me, is was close.) So I guess M2K sucks because he lost to a 12 year old who used Ness, right?

This argument can go on forever, so I guess we should just agree to disagree.

Wow. Don't take this as an offense, but that seems like a post I would make.

And no, like Zaffy said, probably neither of them knew the match-up that well. If Ally was using Snake, chances are he probably stomped the Ganon player. He might have been using Falcon.

[PKpwnage]

I like this. Much better than Brawl+ (aka Melee 2).

I know "it's not Melee 2," but it really is. No sweetspotting, more hitstun, less move lag, come on.

[PhoenixZeroW]

So what is this, a new game ?

[PKpwnage]

Not really. It plays exactly like Brawl; in fact, it pretty much is Brawl. What these people did was go in and modify the game code so that each character either was nerfed (MK, Smake, Wario), or got a little boost in playability so they don't suck anymore.

[PhoenixZeroW]

Not really. It plays exactly like Brawl; in fact, it pretty much is Brawl. What these people did was go in and modify the game code so that each character either was nerfed (MK, Smake, Wario), or got a little boost in playability so they don't suck anymore.
So it's a hack ?

[PKpwnage]

Technically, yes. However, it's a very positive hack.

Here's a sample video; notice how Ike's Quick Draw no longer causes him to freefall. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj_1z8bXc6c&feature=channel)

[PhoenixZeroW]

Technically, yes. However, it's a very positive hack.

Here's a sample video; notice how Ike's Quick Draw no longer causes him to freefall. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj_1z8bXc6c&feature=channel)
Are they selling it or something ?

[PKpwnage]

I'm 99% sure that it's a download that requires Gecko.

[PhoenixZeroW]

Onto the Wii ?

[PKpwnage]

"In order to run the .gct file (which is the code file), you will need a modern version of Gecko OS (such as 1.9.1) and the gameconfig.txt file on the root of your SD card. Both of these are generally available and easy to find. You will also need some way to launch Gecko OS which, by SWF rules, we are forbidden to supply support on. Future, final releases will be executable on unhacked Wiis."

[Pentasalia]

don't answer flamewarp, PKpwn
he just asks stupid questions that he could figure out by looking around a bit

in fact,if he actually bothered to click that thread
the answer would be pretty obvious

[PKpwnage]

I'm not familiar with the trolls in this area; forgive me.

I was just answering out of instinct.

[PhoenixZeroW]

"In order to run the .gct file (which is the code file), you will need a modern version of Gecko OS (such as 1.9.1) and the gameconfig.txt file on the root of your SD card. Both of these are generally available and easy to find. You will also need some way to launch Gecko OS which, by SWF rules, we are forbidden to supply support on. Future, final releases will be executable on unhacked Wiis."
So you download it onto the wii from the computer ?

Additional Comment:

don't answer flamewarp, PKpwn
he just asks stupid questions that he could figure out by looking around a bit

in fact,if he actually bothered to click that thread
the answer would be pretty obvious
WTF is your problem ? I did not understand the thread, you asswipe.

[PKpwnage]

Just read the link.

[PhoenixZeroW]

Just read the link.
I did, but I didn't get the computer term stuff.

[Pentasalia]

So what is this, a new game ?

So it's a hack ?

Are they selling it or something ?

Onto the Wii ?

So you download it onto the wii from the computer ?





your questions are too easy to figure out and isn't worth a post

you just don't want to look for the answer

and this isn't the first time you've posted like this with your 3 word posts

here
google.com

or look at strike42's brawl+ page on this section
it explains how to hack your wii and explains it all
i'll even get it if it's too hard for you
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=716680
or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tizMhn8a0c4
all your answers right there

there are plenty of options

[PhoenixZeroW]

your questions are too easy to figure out and isn't worth a post

you just don't want to look for the answer

and this isn't the first time you've posted like this with your 3 word posts

here
google.com

or look at strike42's brawl+ page on this section
it explains how to hack your wii and explains it all
i'll even get it for you if it's too hard
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=716680
all your answers right there

there are plenty of options
Why the hell should I search all over the place for those answers, when pkpwnage is all to happy to already answer them ? Because I'm annoying you ? Well la-de-da, how is it up there on your pedistool, princess ?

[Pentasalia]

because it spams my thread

and you're questions are too easy as i said before

also you'd probably take up pages just having someone baby step you to the solution
It isn't hard,you're just lazy and you're taking advantage of fellow pojoers so you can continue being lazy


come back with a decent question

[strike42]

Well Isn't this supposed to be a discussion thread ? seems to me like questions are not spam.

Dumb questions are, of course this is a god damn hack. you think Nintendo is gonna take the time to fix brawlol. No

Jesus Christ, use google for once in your life.

[Zaffy]

Question, is it possible to download Gecko/Balenced Brawl/Brawl+ via the internet channel?

I haven't seen this asked before so I think this is a reasonable Q.

[Pentasalia]

ZAFFY
SEND ME two MORE VIDEOS

did u read my post from before D:

[strike42]

Question, is it possible to download Gecko/Balenced Brawl/Brawl+ via the internet channel?

I haven't seen this asked before so I think this is a reasonable Q.

nope, you cant DL anything on the internet channel. if your asking this, i suspect that you dont have a sd card reader?

[Pentasalia]

nvm i saw it xD

[rocklee10]

Penta, it's America, everyone is lazy lol.

[Pentasalia]

dammit wolfy lol
you made me write my long response for nothing >.>

*deletes,hates you*

you can delete this too then