Back in the game, this time with a severe budget

[Blood Lotus]

So yeah, I took an entire year of being out of the game ( since Light of Destruction was released ), but this time, I don't have many good cards left, and I'm under a serious budget limitations this time around.

Before I left, I had no budget at all though, the only limits was as much cash I had ready.

Still I was managing to do with what I had back in the days, the problem often has to do with more important staples ( Solemn Judgment, Allure of Darkness and Dark Bribe and such, no problem with Heavy Storm, MST, Giant Trunade, Dust Tornado, only one Mirror Force in my entire collection, Brain Control, Swords of Revealing Light and all ) despite having no Solemn Judgment, I still have Black Horn of Heavens and Horn of Heavens but I'm really not sure if it can make up for no Solemn Judgment.

I used to go for locals tournaments and often managing to make it to the top 8 and even top 2 at some point, now I lose all the time even though I tried to update my deck while I had a shortage of cards and money. I'm trying right now to save up in order to get myself a new computer, mine is really getting old.

Right now, I'd like to possibly show up in the locals I used to go, but if I keep on losing even fun games to friends of mine who do have decks from the current format, there's no point left for me just to head for locals.

Well anyway, I have at least a Zombie deck and a Blue-Eyes-White-Dragon deck, my Arcana Force deck I was trying to build up is currently postponed until I find myself an Arcana Force EX: Light Ruler, which is incredibly hard to find in my area, like most important staples.

Well, that sums it up right now.

So, now here's my deck list for my Blue-Eyes deck, if you can help me with this it'd already be appreciated yet keep in mind that I don't have much cards available right now.

x3 Blue Eyes White Dragon
x2 Luster Dragon ( 2400 Attack Points )
x1 Twin-Headed-Behemoth
x1 Masked Dragon
x2 Divine Dragon Ragnarok
x2 Lord of Dragon
x2 Manju Ten-Thousand Hands
x1 Paladin of White Dragon
x1 Sangan
x2 Magna Drago
x1 Kaibaman
x1 Frequency Magician ( to be replaced by another Magna Drago asap )

Spells

x3 Ancient Rules
x1 Summoners Arts ( possibly a second one to be installed )
x1 Gold Sarcophagus
x1 Brain Control
x1 White Dragon Ritual
x1 My Body as a Shield
x2 Dragon Mirror
x1 Monster Reborn
x1 Giant Trunade
x1 Heavy Storm
x1 Swords of Revealing Light
x1 Mystical Space Typhoon
x1 Lightning Vortex

Traps

x1 Mirror Force ( though I kindda wonder if it's any of use now )
x1 Raigeki Break
x1 Dust Tornado
x1 Dragon Rage
x1 Torrential Tribute

Fusion Deck

x1 King Dragun
x2 Blue-Eyes-Ultimate-Dragon
x1 Five Headed Dragon

Synch Deck

x1 Stardust Dragon
x1 Red Dragon Archfiend
x1 Colossal Fighter
x1 Black Rose Dragon

So, what am I doing wrong here ?? :confused:

[Ryll]

Could you show your Zombie deck? It likely has a lot of potential, not to mention everything but two Zombies [i.e. Plaguespreader Zombie (15-25) and Mezuki (10-15)] that tend to be played frequently are considered inexpensive. I am not a major BEWD fan, but I will see what I can say about it.

Regarding Luster Dragon #2, Prime Material Dragon or Strong Wind Dragon are the better substitutes. Des Volstgaph, White-Horned Dragon, and maybe Tiger Dragon are fine, too. No need for Sangan, here. I see that the Paladin can be useful but there is not enough gained from the Ritual to take advantage of that, I would nix him and his support to allow you to focus more on Lord of Dragon by giving him two Flutes. At least that way you can enable big summons and the anti-targetting that he and King Dragun offer.

I suppose up to two more Masked Dragons do not hurt, since it is one of the better searchers. If you can get some Iron Chain Dragon, Exploder Dragonwing, and Trident Dragion for your Extra Deck, it makes Debris Dragon become an ideal choice in your deck since he and a LV6 make Trident [I would suggest two of each Tuner]. A second F.G.D. would not hurt either. In order to make Debris effect go off at times, you should run a couple of Totem Dragon (and you can get away with it since you only have 3 non-Dragons). Also there is the White Stone Legend, but I suppose without the lower level Synchros available to you, he is not used for else much but fodder.

Maybe one Ancient Rules and one Summoner's Art should suffice, the Graveyard can be easier to work with than your hand. Run a Future Fusion to set up the Graveyard and accelerate a Fusion Summon. Other Spell cards that could help include Enemy Controller and Card Destruction.

Mirror Force is still good, you are better off keeping it in here -- has to have a narrow activation frame for a reason. But I am not a big fan of Dragon Rage, you are better off with a second My Body as a Shield since you were lamenting on Solemn Judgment earlier. A couple of Threatening Roar is a great choice that many decks use to save themselves from possible OTKs.

Perhaps you should use that Gold Sarcophagus to trade for a whole bunch of stuff you need or want while it is still hot (but cooling).

[Blood Lotus]

Ok, what I have right now already from your ideas

x1 Des Volstgalph
x2 Masked Dragon
x1 Card Destruction
x3 Flute of Summoning Dragon ( Lord of Dragon is a Spellcaster though )
x3 Enemy Controller
x1 Future Fusion
x1 My Body as a Shield

But what I don't have right now

x1 Prime Material Dragon
x1 White Horned Dragon
x1 Tiger Dragon
x1 Strong Wind Dragon
x1 Iron Chain Dragon
x1 Exploder Dragonwing
x1 Trident Dragon
x1 White Stone Legend

I think I'm starting to see what you mean about Card Destruction being useful and all, but my "Don't have List" probably will be a challenge to get all that stuff, I meant by x1 as "not a single card with that name" so I think I'll have to trade one more of my Cyber Dragon, possibly my three Volcanic Rockets, all in mint condition but were hardly used at all, and at worst case scenario even my Gorz hoping I'd get those cards, trading the Gold Sarcophagus wouldn't be much of a problem though since I already have something practically as good as this ( Different Dimension Capsule ).

Anyway, now with the Zombie decks list


Monsters

x2 Vampire Lord
x3 Ryu Kokki
x2 IL Blud
x3 Pyramid Turtle
x1 Goblin Zombie
x2 Zombie Master
x1 Necroface
x1 Spirit Reaper
x1 Return Zombie
x1 Sangan

Spells

x3 Book of Life
x3 Call of the Mummy
x1 Monster Reborn
x1 Shrink
x1 Creature Swap
x1 Brain Control
x1 Swords of Revealing Light
x2 Foolish Burial
x1 Heavy Storm
x1 Giant Trunade
x1 Mystical Space Typhoon
x1 Lightning Vortex
x1 Card of Safe Return ( note: I can make it to three instead of one )

Traps

x1 Bottomless Trap Hole
x1 Tutan Mask
x1 Raigeki Break
x1 Dust Tornado

I think I can make it better since most of my better cards were mostly set in my Blue Eyes deck, but I also have some more available, like Despair from the Dark, or even Gorz The Emissary of Darkness, there's not many Zombie Cards I still don't have right now so it sounds like a more realistic idea to me for building a deck, but right now, I'm not too sure where I can find at least one Mezuki and a Plaguespreader Zombie, I still can guess Mezuki to be useful in this type of deck and I have some other Zombies.

So, if I'd go for a trade, how much can I expect to pay up in order to grab either Mezuki or Plaguespreader Zombie or even both ??

EDIT: I just came up with an idea, can anyone help me out ??

I'd be willing to build up a Skull Servant Zombie Deck, I think it's really cheap to build and can be annoying to the opponent, I already have lots of cards needed for a Zombie deck excepted Mezuki and Pleaguespreader Zombie, but I think I already have most of the stuff to make it happen.

Additional Comment:

EDIT: No Help ?? Not good. :(

[Ryll]

But what I don't have right now

x1 Prime Material Dragon
x1 White Horned Dragon
x1 Tiger Dragon
x1 Strong Wind Dragon
x1 Iron Chain Dragon
x1 Exploder Dragonwing
x1 Trident Dragon
x1 White Stone Legend

I think I'm starting to see what you mean about Card Destruction being useful and all, but my "Don't have List" probably will be a challenge to get all that stuff, I meant by x1 as "not a single card with that name" so I think I'll have to trade one more of my Cyber Dragon, possibly my three Volcanic Rockets, all in mint condition but were hardly used at all, and at worst case scenario even my Gorz hoping I'd get those cards, trading the Gold Sarcophagus wouldn't be much of a problem though since I already have something practically as good as this ( Different Dimension Capsule ).

You do not have to have everything, I was listing suggestions. Although, the Extra Deck is pretty much the bigger thing to finish, since a good amount of the cards can be applied to other things. Iron Chain Dragon should not be a problem to get (he is generic), but Exploder and Trident would be (require Dragons).

You should keep about two Cyber Dragons if it ever goes up in the future or to spread around decks. Regarding your Volcanic Rockets, do you have a deck idea in mind or something? And are they Super, Secret, or Gold Rare? If you got some use down the road or you want to collect it, by all the means keep it. Not everything on that suggestion list matters -- it just lets you change your deck up a certain way. Keep that Gorz!

Additional Comment:

Mezuki goes for around 10 to 15 and Plaguespreader ranges from 15 to 25. And you only need one of each since they are both limited (as well as Card of Safe Return). If your Gold Sarcophagus can get both that would be great. I will just make a deck list of cards, and aside from Mezuki and Plaguespreader, you can tell me if you do not have it or something. Here is a temporary build, pure Zombie-Type style.

Monsters (20)
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1 x Il Blud
2 x Zombie Master
3 x Pyramid Turtle
1 x Mezuki
2 x Goblin Zombie
1 x Plaguespreader Zombie
1 x Spirit Reaper
3 x King of the Skull Servants
3 x Skull Servant
3 x The Lady in Wight

Spells (14)
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3 x Book of Life
1 x Call of the Mummy
1 x Monster Reborn
2 x Creature Swap
1 x Brain Control
1 x Card of Safe Return
2 x Foolish Burial
1 x Heavy Storm
1 x Mystical Space Typhoon
1 x Lightning Vortex

Traps (6)
---
1 x Mirror Force
1 x Torrential Tribute
2 x Graceful Revival
2 x Raigeki Break

[xc_hawk]

If you want an incredibly cheap deck that still wins, morphtronics is the way to go. I'm pretty sure you could get away with making the entire deck via commons and a few rares. I'm doing this off the top of my head, so this is probably gonna be a bad build of them.

18
3x morphtronic radion (rare)
3x morphtronic boomboxen (rare)
3x morphtronic celfon
3x morphtronic boarden
2x morphtronic scopen
1x morphtronic slingen
1x morphtronic remoten
1x sangan
1x gorz the emissary of darkness (technically a secret, but you can get one for like a dollar)

14
3x junk box
3x morphtronic accelerator (rare)
2x machine duplication
2x one for one (rare)
1x monster reborn
1x brain control
1x heavy storm
1x mystical space typhoon

8
3x threatening roar
3x reckless greed
1x mirror force (because I know you have one)
1x torrential tribute

[Blood Lotus]

So let's see,

What I have right now

1 x Il Blud
2 x Zombie Master
3 x Pyramid Turtle
0 x Mezuki
1 x Goblin Zombie
0 x Plaguespreader Zombie
1 x Spirit Reaper
2 x King of the Skull Servants
3 x Skull Servant
3 x The Lady in Wight

Spells

3 x Book of Life
1 x Call of the Mummy
1 x Monster Reborn
2 x Creature Swap
1 x Brain Control
1 x Card of Safe Return
2 x Foolish Burial
1 x Heavy Storm
1 x Mystical Space Typhoon
1 x Lightning Vortex

Traps

1 x Mirror Force
1 x Torrential Tribute
0 x Graceful Revival
2 x Raigeki Break

So, don't have would go this way, but I think I could get something out of it to fill the gap, there's this guy in my locals that wants to buy my entire Volcanic deck and he's offering me really big bucks for this even though it was a failure to begin with, so yeah, I suppose I might as well sell out my Volcanic deck to fill in the gap with the stuff I still don't have, especially for Mezuki and Plaguespreader.

Don't have would mean this below

x1 Goblin Zombie
x1 King of the Skull Servant
x2 Graceful Revival
x1 Mezuki
x1 Plaguespreader Zombie.

[kpt25]

So let's see,

What I have right now

1 x Il Blud
2 x Zombie Master
3 x Pyramid Turtle
0 x Mezuki
1 x Goblin Zombie
0 x Plaguespreader Zombie
1 x Spirit Reaper
2 x King of the Skull Servants
3 x Skull Servant
3 x The Lady in Wight

Spells

3 x Book of Life
1 x Call of the Mummy
1 x Monster Reborn
2 x Creature Swap
1 x Brain Control
1 x Card of Safe Return
2 x Foolish Burial
1 x Heavy Storm
1 x Mystical Space Typhoon
1 x Lightning Vortex

Traps

1 x Mirror Force
1 x Torrential Tribute
0 x Graceful Revival
2 x Raigeki Break

So, don't have would go this way, but I think I could get something out of it to fill the gap, there's this guy in my locals that wants to buy my entire Volcanic deck and he's offering me really big bucks for this even though it was a failure to begin with, so yeah, I suppose I might as well sell out my Volcanic deck to fill in the gap with the stuff I still don't have, especially for Mezuki and Plaguespreader.

Don't have would mean this below

x1 Goblin Zombie
x1 King of the Skull Servant
x2 Graceful Revival
x1 Mezuki
x1 Plaguespreader Zombie.

Graceful revival is pretty cheap and easy to obtain...it's a rare in TDGS and common in DP Yusei
Goblin Zombie is worth very low due to Special Edition reprint in CRMS...still the only money cards are Mezuki and Plaguespreader Zombie

[russgenious]

Alright, this is gonna be my first post in this forum! =P

for ur bewd deck, i've been experimenting with a normal deck and it seems u have most of the structure.

heres the link to which my deck has been based off of:

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=698507

got another link that i'll dig out later

anyway, if u look at the link u can see its based off of the high beatstick power of the normals. ancient rules to quickly summon the bewd, a buncho of lv 4 1900-2000 beatsticks and throw in some anti-meta cards that work under skill drain which screws evrything and there u have somewhat of a competitive deck.

bonus: he's running sacro like u. =P

draw power in common charity (allure for normals and speaking of allure, its been reprinted and is way cheaper now, u can replace some of the beatsticks with dark ones which are allurable), heart of the underdog (all bout the last card u draw) and some staples which i see u have already.

u brought up a card that i'ld overlooked - raigeki break - since with all the draw power and sometimes useless normals, discard them to beat down on ur opp with vortex, raigeki break etc...

all of this, u can get for cheap from ur friends or w.e.

and mad props for the zombie build ryll, looks quite affordable although i kno nothing bout zombies lol.

mezuki is worth much less now, plague is 10 just get ur friends to lend em or proxy them and decktest.

u got an entire volcanic deck? u wanna post it?

[Blood Lotus]

u got an entire volcanic deck? u wanna post it?

Sure :)

The desing style looks pretty old now, it's because I designed it over a year ago, so here goes...

Monsters ( 19 )

x2 Volcanic Doomfire
x2 Volcanic Hammerer

x3 Volcanic Rocket
x2 Volcanic Slicer
x3 Volcanic Scattershot
x3 Volcanic Shell
x3 Volcanic Counter
x1 Sangan

Spells ( 18 )

x3 Blaze Accelerator
x3 Tri-Blaze Accelerator
x3 Dark Room of Nightmare
x1 Monster Reborn
x1 Mystical Space Typhoon
x1 Giant Trunade
x1 Pot of Avarice
x1 Lightning Vortex
x1 Swords of Revealing Light
x1 Messenger of Peace
x1 Brain Control
x1 Soul Exchange

Traps ( 4 )

x1 Magic Cylinder
x1 Dust Tornado
x1 Raigeki Break
x1 Coffin Seller

It was around something like that I used for a Volcanic Deck, the Rockets were by far the hardest to get, and there were three of them, no joke.

But, it didn't went too well on this one. :(

Additional Comment:

Alright, this is gonna be my first post in this forum! =P

for ur bewd deck, i've been experimenting with a normal deck and it seems u have most of the structure.

heres the link to which my deck has been based off of:

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=698507

got another link that i'll dig out later

anyway, if u look at the link u can see its based off of the high beatstick power of the normals. ancient rules to quickly summon the bewd, a buncho of lv 4 1900-2000 beatsticks and throw in some anti-meta cards that work under skill drain which screws evrything and there u have somewhat of a competitive deck.

bonus: he's running sacro like u. =P

draw power in common charity (allure for normals and speaking of allure, its been reprinted and is way cheaper now, u can replace some of the beatsticks with dark ones which are allurable), heart of the underdog (all bout the last card u draw) and some staples which i see u have already.

u brought up a card that i'ld overlooked - raigeki break - since with all the draw power and sometimes useless normals, discard them to beat down on ur opp with vortex, raigeki break etc...

all of this, u can get for cheap from ur friends or w.e.



Skill Drain ?? Now that's something I didn't think of and I might as well try on Heart of the Underdog too, I think I already have a Common Charity card somewhere here. So, I should keep my Sarcophagus too.

I think I'll give it a try too because I don't like spending money too much. lol

[Blood Lotus]

Ok, now I made it for a Skill-Drain deck, I also put some effect monsters along for the ride but not many, still I need to know if you can bring in Synch Monsters to the field even when Skill Drain is active.

Besides this, I followed lots of stuff from your Skill Drain deck, but with some personnal touch of my own so it's a slightly different version

x3 Blue-Eyes-White-Dragon
x1 Frostosaurus
x1 Summoned Skull ( didn't have a second Frostosaurus )

x2 Gene Warped Warwolf
x2 Mad Dog of Darkness
x1 Vorse Raider
x2 Enraged Battle Ox ( I really love that monster )
x1 DD Assailant
x2 Magna Drago
x1 Kaibaman
x1 Sangan

Spells

x2 Heart of the Underdog
x2 Summoner's Art
x3 Ancient Rules
x1 Gold Sarcophagus
x1 Giant Trunade
x1 Brain Control
x2 Non-Spellcasting Area
x1 Heavy Storm
x1 Swords of Revealing Light
x1 Lightning Vortex
x1 Monster Reborn

Traps

x3 Skill Drain
x1 Common Charity
x1 Mirror Force
x1 Raigeki Break
x1 Dust Tornado

Synch Deck

x1 Stardust Dragon
x1 Red Dragon Archfiend
x1 Black Rose Dragon
x1 Colossal Fighter


That's about what I managed to build up so far, and I still can build some Side-Deck possibly from what I have right now, but this deck has yet to prove itself. :)

[russgenious]

tbh, it looks great right now.;)

[YoungCoco]

It looks good, but if I can be honest, I do not think there are enough traps. It has actually been about 3 years since I last played, but my deck can still win, this has been tested when I fight the losers of each match by milling around my locals.

Anyway, I have always looked at deck construction using these basic guidelines.

Traps: Used for Diversionary and Protective tactics. Allows you to hold off attacks until you can acquire the services of your wanted card.

Spells: Boosts the stats of your favourite cards, or acts as a quick retrieval of your fave cards from your deck or your hand.

Monster: These should be minimal in your deck, unless, of course, they are to play a part in one of your decks strategems.

Monster/Effect: As with Spells and Traps, these are good at acting as Obstructions to the opponent or assisting with planned strategems.

Also, I do not use any of these premade decks going around neither. The first and foremost rule is to build your own. If deck construction is impossible for a duelist, then he is not a duelist.

[Blood Lotus]

It looks good, but if I can be honest, I do not think there are enough traps. It has actually been about 3 years since I last played, but my deck can still win, this has been tested when I fight the losers of each match by milling around my locals.

Anyway, I have always looked at deck construction using these basic guidelines.

Traps: Used for Diversionary and Protective tactics. Allows you to hold off attacks until you can acquire the services of your wanted card.

Spells: Boosts the stats of your favourite cards, or acts as a quick retrieval of your fave cards from your deck or your hand.

Monster: These should be minimal in your deck, unless, of course, they are to play a part in one of your decks strategems.

Monster/Effect: As with Spells and Traps, these are good at acting as Obstructions to the opponent or assisting with planned strategems.

Also, I do not use any of these premade decks going around neither. The first and foremost rule is to build your own. If deck construction is impossible for a duelist, then he is not a duelist.

Yeah, possibly not many defenses so far but with 40 cards, first I just already reached the minimal monsters force, otherwise I run the risk of not having monsters when I'd need them, 17 monsters to me is a strict minimal and 20 monsters is the max I put in my decks.

But, I guess I could afford to change from Sarcophagus to a better defensive card.

Gold Sarcophagus changed for Raigeki Break, probably the best I can do right now...

EDIT: Just Torrential Tribute added, Sarcophagus and Raigeki Break ain't going anywhere, so it means 41 cards in the deck, probably the limit I'd go for.