WW - Revamped

[NarutoChamp]

This is my revamped White Weenie deck, please fix it up for me and don't make the fixes too darn expensive.

20 Creatures
[4] Leonin Shikari
[4] Auriok Steelshaper
[4] Auriok Glaivemaster
[4] Leonin Den-Guard
[4] Leonin Skyhunter

10 Equipment
[4] Bonesplitter
[2] Specter's Shroud
[2] Sword of Fire and Ice
[1] Loxodon Warhammer
[1] Sword of Kaldra

12 Other Spells
[4] Arrest
[3] Swords to Plowshares
[3] Steelshaper's Gift
[2] Pulse of the Fields

18 Lands
[18] Plains

[Witness_of_Karenal_4]

-2 Specter's Shroud
-1 Loxodon Warhammer
-1 Sword of Kaldra
-3 Steelshaper Gift
-3 Sword To Plowshares

+2 Sword of Fire and Ice
+4 Auriok Glaivemaster
+4 Grafted Wargear

That's what I would do, I'm not sure about SB though.

[Polidoom]

He already has [4] Glaivemaster. I would do the same fixes except:
-[2] Sword of Fire and Ice
-[4] Arrest
-[4] Glaivemaster (I don't think you'll want 8)
-[2] Plains
-[2] Pulse of the Fields

+[4] Armageddon
+[4] Wasteland
+[2] Lightning Greaves
+[4] Swords to Plowshares

I'm sorry if the fixes are too expensive for you... if they are, replace the
[4] Wasteland and [4] Armageddon for [2] Plains, [2] Pulse of the Fields and [4] Arrest.

[Absol]

what format is this exactly?

[NarutoChamp]

Anything legal. I haven't been playing too long.

Steelshaper's Gift is amazing. If I have no equipment in my opening hand, then this gets it done, and first turn.

I'll try to get two more Sword of Fire and Ice/Sword of Light and Shadow for the Loxodon Warhammer and Sword of Kaldra.

Four Armageddon is too much. I'd only use two or three at the most. Plus, I'll need what little land I already have.

Pulse of the Fields is the best pulse in my opinion. This card is amazing if I'm getting drilled to the ground by Sligh.

I'll try to get two Lightning Greaves and one more Swords to Plowshares soon, thanks.

[Brockiflower]

-2 specters shroud
-1 warhammer
-1 sword of kaldra
-4 arrest

+4 auriok champions
+2 Sword of Fire and Ice
+1 Swords to plaw shares
+1 Sword of Lught and Shadow

if the Sword Of ____ and ____ are to expenxive use lightning greaves as a replacement

[NarutoChamp]

Currently, the Specter's Shrouds are in place of two more Sword of Fire and Ice/Sword of Light and Shadow.

I could try two Auriok Champions, but not four, so I'll keep two Arrest just to be safe, thanks.

[Brockiflower]

ok but i would play pasifism over arrest.
Edit: 300th post

[Zeta]

Sword of Light and Shadow is bad, and Arrest > Pacifism.

Anyway, if you want to make a decent t1.5 deck (that's where this is headed) then here's a list:

10 Plains
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath

4 Mother of Runes
4 Mtenda Herder
4 Savannah Lions
4 Silver Knight
2 Silver Seraph/Exalted Angel
4 Soltari Foot Soldier
4 Soul Warden
4 Suntail Hawk

4 Crusade
4 Land Tax
4 Swords to Plowshares

[NarutoChamp]

Thanks for taking the fun Equipment part of the deck away, Zeta. Anyway, Arrest > Pacifism. Mother of Runes however wouldn't be a bad idea..

[Zeta]

Well, if the topic (or you) said "WW Equipment," I'd have different suggestions. Simply, Equipment is BAD in t1.5 and t1, except occasionally Skullclamp. WW in t1.5 (it's unplayable in t1) uses 1cc creatures along with Crusade and beats you down. That's it.

[Brockiflower]

SO narutachamp if you want us to help you we need to no whether its 1.5 extended or T2 thanx. if your set on using arrest use the cool old ones

[NarutoChamp]

Brockiflower, I'm new to the game you moron, your fixes suck anyway.

Zeta, now could you give me fixes involving Equipment WW?

[Zeta]

Oi. Well, first off, you need to make it MrBC legal. W/X can't survive in other formats, and it barely survives there.

So...

-3 Swords to Plowshares (=()
SB 2 Pulse of the Fields (and SB a 3rd)
-1 Arrest
-1 Loxodon Warhammer
-1 Sword of Kaldra (BAD!)
-2 Specter's Shroud

+4 Skyhunter Skirmisher
+4 Grafted Wargear
+1 Sword of Fire and Ice
+1 Cranial Plating

That should work...=/

[NarutoChamp]

Thanks, Zeta. Those fixes will be added.

[the zealotpker]

Just to be helpful, I'm going to run through the list of good equipment:

Bonesplitter: Only good if you are going all-out with beating the opponent down IMO
Skullclamp: A staple equipment, card advantage wins. If they try to kill your field, simply put skullclamp's ability on the stack as many times as possible/would be useful (assuming you have Shikari on the field). Even if shikari isn't on the field, you will get some card drawing assuming they don't nuke you with Akroma's Vengeance/Nevinyrall's Disk
Mask of Memory: Repleneshes your hand, getting more creatures ready
Lightning Greaves: Godly when used with shikari
Sword of Light and Shadow/Sword of Fire and Ice: Most people say Fire and Ice is better, but it really depends on metagame and build.
Loxodon Warhammer: Not generally great, but it has uses.

Knowing me, I probably missed something, but those are the main ones I think....

[Zeta]

zealot...

Fire and Ice IS better. Lifegain is sub-par in T2/MrBC, and creature destruction and hand advantage is better than life gain and recursion.

Lightning Greaves is unnecessary.

Warhammer is WAY too expensive to play.

...Skullclamp is banned. >.>

[Zamiel]

all i can say is
If ur runnin Sword Fire/Ice
Skyhunter Skirmisher is nessesary!!

If u need a sideboard, I use

4 Leonin Elder (anti-ravager)
4 Lightning greaves (anti-removal)
4 Holy day (anti ww)
3 what you want

[the zealotpker]

zealot...

Fire and Ice IS better. Lifegain is sub-par in T2/MrBC, and creature destruction and hand advantage is better than life gain and recursion.

Lightning Greaves is unnecessary.

Warhammer is WAY too expensive to play.

...Skullclamp is banned. >.>
I'm pretty certain that he's playing T1.5...so Skullclamp is still legal.

Lightning Greaves can be really good against certain decks, it is at least a side-deck option.

SoLaS can be better than SoFaI. Some decks would want a creature more than the next card from their deck (and, with skullclamp, getting a creature basically translates to drawing two cards if that's what you would rather have).

I said that Loxodon Warhammer generally is bad, but it does have some uses.

[Zeta]

He's playing MrBC...or he's changing to it. SoLnS is bad. =/ Good decks in MrBC that play either white or black play few colored creatures, while red and blue do.

PSYCHO, that's a bad idea for an SB, his should look like this:

2 Duplicant
3 Leonin Elder
4 Purge
3 Oblivion Stone
3 Pulse of the Fields