Battlestar Galactica

[WildWill]

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270355&obj_id=40796


Don't know how I missed this the other day....Sci-Fi has ordered 13 episodes of a new Battlestar Galactica TV series continuing the story started in last December's 4 Hour mini-series.

13 Episodes is quite a lot for a series this costly, and Sci-Fi seemed to really drag their heels in deciding whether or not to order it...but it's a good sign. I was actually quite surprised, I totally expected the Mini-series to suck, and it didn't. In fact, I think my wife liked it better than I did (which makes sense because she wasn't old enough to really remember the original series).

AND since the mini-series served as a pilot to this show, all the actors were signed to longer contracts, so they will all be returning.


Have no idea what I'm talking about? I reviewed the mini-series in December, which I archived at my website. Click here to read my archived version.
http://www.geocities.com/wmnoe/reviews/bg.html

[bountyhunterbebop]

Well, I watched the 4 hour mini thing. I thought it was really good. It was on the same day as Prophect II and III.

[Majin yami]

Is it just me or is the new BSG the best thing on TV at the moment? It farking rules! The characters are believable, the script is amazing and Ronald D Moore is Exec Producer (I think).
This show can do no wrong. It manages to show Man's ability to try and carry on in the face of great adversity, without being mushy. Plus I have a slight crush on Starbuck:o (she has a nice smile okay!).
We're on episode 9 a the moment and I must say that the next episode looks absolutely stunning. But we have to wait until the 3rd January
I don't know when it airs in America (or if it already has) but if it hasn't then definately tune in. You will not be disappointed.

[WildWill]

Can't wait until January, what with the way that Aint it Cool has been creaming in their pants over each new episode, supposedly it's the greatest show EVAR!

I'll make up my own mind...but yeah, I'll check it out avidly.

[Eidorian]

I loved the miniseries. I haven't seen fighter action this good since Babylon 5. I really reminds me a lot of playing Homeworld.

[Majin yami]

I'm probably going to get the mini-series and original series after christmas.

[BerserkerAzn]

I know I'm gonna watch it, the miniseries was awesome and I hope this one will.

[Greg]

been watching the series over here, dpnt want to spoil it for the americans, not much cylon action as of yet, its more talky like 24 which is pretty good, its all tension and pace

[largo991]

i didn't see the miniseries, they kept the theme, right?

[BerserkerAzn]

Friday nights are gonna be killer for those of us who don't do anything...

:(

Battlestar Galactica
Stargate SG-1
Stargate Atlantis

w0ot

[Greg]

theres alot less on the cylon front, more types tension paranoia situations, dont really want to spoil it for you though, we havent had an episode for 2 weeks because of christmas, next one is monday and we are nearing the end of the series.

[Jack_Jeckle]

Eh i'll stick around for it. Looks like a blast, but nothing to get hard over.

[WildWill]

theres alot less on the cylon front, more types tension paranoia situations, dont really want to spoil it for you though, we havent had an episode for 2 weeks because of christmas, next one is monday and we are nearing the end of the series.


Well, you're nearing the end of the first 13 episode season...it's still an American show with an undefined stopping point...but I watch a lot of BBC so I understand the distinction between a British "Series" and an American "Season". If the show does well ratings wise here in the states, you can expect a second "series" or "season" sometime in late 2005 early 2006.

Episode 1 doesn't air here until January 14, which is 2 days before my birthday. Nice birthday present. Thanks Sci-Fi

[Greg]

[QUOTE=WildWill]Well, you're nearing the end of the first 13 episode season...it's still an American show with an undefined stopping point...but I watch a lot of BBC so I understand the distinction between a British "Series" and an American "Season".


i think youll find it was co-produced with sky in the uk

Battlestar Galactica" (2004) [TV-Series 2004-????]
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Plot Outline: After losing the war against the Cylon robots, the Battlestar Galactica crew speed toward the fabled 13th colony, Earth. Galactica Commander Adama (Olmos) and President Laura Roslin (McDonnell) face waning supplies, crushed morale, ... and the credible threat Cylons aboard the ship.

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[WildWill]

ahh...so that's why it's on in the UK first.

Lucky bastages.

[Greg]

hopefully doctor who aswell

[WildWill]

I thought they were in pre-production on the continuation of Dr. Who.

I thought I heard that Eddie Izzard might play the good doctor.

I could be wrong.

[Greg]

I thought they were in pre-production on the continuation of Dr. Who.

I thought I heard that Eddie Izzard might play the good doctor.

I could be wrong.


Christopher Eccleston is the new doctor, the series will debut in later summer or the autum on the Beeb, and the darleks are back and might be cgi.

Christopher Eccleston -

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/

new Doctor Who series

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436992/

[Greg]

dont want to spoil it but last nights battlestar was the best yet, lots and lots and lots and lost of action, cant wait till next week

[WildWill]

Yeah, I read the entire season one episode guide, can't wait for the later episodes which are adaptations of the original series episodes.

Looking forward to it.

[Greg]

Yeah, I read the entire season one episode guide, can't wait for the later episodes which are adaptations of the original series episodes.

Looking forward to it.


yeah last nights was an adaptation

[Majin yami]

I bloody well missed it:mad: ! I have to catch the repeat on Saturday.

[Greg]

ok little spoiler, think then end of a new hope.

[Greg]

wow, last weeks was iron eagle, this weeks episode was out of the 24 handbook, and can i just say, starbuck is HOT ! and i think baltar makes watching the show enjoyable, last night he had a killer scene.

[Eidorian]

I just bought the miniseries on DVD. I can't wait for the premiere on Sci-Fi.

[Majin yami]

Gaius is the best thing about this show. He has great scenes and it's great to see him squirm.

[Greg]

did you see him at the last episode when he was at the council meeting on cloud 9 ?, they way he was slumped over his desk.

[Majin yami]

That was classic. How about his line "No more mister nice Gaius" I laughed so hard.

[Greg]

i know he will get found out, but i dont want him to, i like the way his charachter goes from right on the edge jesus they are going to find out to savior of the fleet the next, his acting is great, and at last the whole halo/boomer subplot is finally going somwhere. i hope it doesnt flop in the stats because i would like to se a second season, there is alot of potential in charachters such as Tom Zarek, and whats happend to boxley? we havent seen him since right at the start of the series. Galactica has gotten better and better as weeks go by, plus the fact that you dont know whats coming next, such as the president and the snakes (seroius spoiler i wont spoil) and what was said to her.

[Majin yami]

plus the fact that you dont know whats coming next, such as the president and the snakes (seroius spoiler i wont spoil)

I'd forgotten about that.

I'd be incredibly surprised if the show wasn't renewed. If it isn't I'll cry. And I actually like the Helo/Boomer storyline. I wonder why all the buildings are intact while the people seem to be all dead or missing.

[WildWill]

Um guys...SPOILERS please...the states HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN EPISODE ONE YET!

Please put any discussion of future episodes in spoiler text until they have aired in the states.

[Greg]

oooops sorry about the spoilers guys, i guess this thread is going to be pretty popular soon.

SCI FI Channel has ordered a second season of its hit series Battlestar Galactica, which has aired five episodes of its first season of 13 episodes. Details of the renewal—including which cast members will return, how many episodes will be produced and when the second season will commence—were still being worked out at press time.

Battlestar Galactica has been a ratings winner for SCI FI since its Jan. 14 premiere. The latest episode, Feb. 4's "You Can't Go Home Again," scored the show's best ratings yet, with 3.2 million viewers.

For the show's second season, creator and executive producer Ronald D. Moore previously told SCI FI Wire that he has already been working on as many as six new scripts to resolve the multiple cliffhangers that will end season one. Moore added that he wants to delve deeper into the show's religious themes and open up the Cylon world a bit more in the coming season

[WildWill]

Dang, time for a bump.


Good Things are Happening.

The show's been renewed...But the number of episodes and which cast members are returning is up in the air. Since we haven't seen all 13 episodes from S1 yet, I'm kind of assuming that there'll be some...err...actors not returning. As with this type of show, it's inevitible. And that's OK.

Ron Moore's Blog over at Scifichannel.com is AMAZING. I have NEVER seen this kind of interaction with the fans before...oh wait, I have...his name is JMS and the show was Babylon 5. Funny, I'm getting the same feeling about BSG that I got from B5...meaning, I can't FREAKING wait until Friday night to watch it.

The most recent episode aired in the states, #6 - Litmus is my favourite of the series thus far. Adama just totally kicked arse...and I loved the courtroom stuff.

Ahh...good times to be a geek...except if you're an Enterprise fan.

Sniff.

[Majin yami]

I have NEVER seen this kind of interaction with the fans before...oh wait, I have...his name is JMS and the show was Babylon 5. Funny, I'm getting the same feeling about BSG that I got from B5...meaning, I can't FREAKING wait until Friday night to watch it.

You know what Will, that analogy is pefect for the show. I got the same feeling about the show. If you love B5, then yoy'll love this show.
Out of curiosity, what episode are you people over the pond up to?

[WildWill]

We just saw #6 - Litmus, as noted above...

[Jack_Jeckle]

I HATE this mini-series. It's just way too serious for my blood. I saw the original series on Sci-Fi, and fell in love with it. Kudos to the 70's version, shame on Sci-Fi for this new turd they have offered.

[WildWill]

Whatever dude, keep your opinion to yourself. We like it.

[Majin yami]

"too serious" um the entire human race has just been almost wiped out. It isn't going to be buttercups and daisies is it.

[Greg]

starbuck is my kinda girl. i cannot wait for the next series

[WildWill]

Apparantly Starbuck is ANYONE's type of gal.

[Blankauctions]

hey wildwill... do you like Battlestar more than Starwars?

[WildWill]

Can't compare the two really. One is a light-fantasy with sci-fi overtones. The other is hard-core sci-fi space opera.


I don't really like comparing things to each other. If pressed I probably like Star Wars, Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica all the same. They all had HUGE parts in my child-hood.

And I really don't like comparing Motion Pictures to Television Shows...they're two different things.

Right now, I'm pretty ding-dang happy that I get 7 more new episodes of Battlestar Galactica, 6 more new episodes of Enterprise, one final Star Wars movie (and all sorts of cool merchandise, and a lot of crap made just to make money), a new Batman movie, and the new Neil Gaiman/Dave McKean movie Mirror Mask, the penultimate Harry Potter Book. Plus comics have rarely been better or had more stuff to look forward to...

And in '06 we get Spidey 3 (maybe), X-men 3, Superman 5, Pirates of the Carribbean 2 and I'm sure a lot more.


(Now the only thing that would just make my life perfect would be Roger Waters returning to Pink Floyd, a new album and a new tour....beyond miracle resurrections of my father, John Lennon, John Belushi, Sam Kinnison, Jim Henson, Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, John Entwhistle and George Harrison that is.)


It's a good time to be King of the Geeks.

[Majin yami]

I love this year.

[Greg]

20 episodes in series/season 2 ive herd. there is alot to be explained

[WildWill]

Episode 7 knocked my socks off. So far we've had a number of episodes that were "character-centric", a common tool used these days by TV Shows with a serial story-line. Come to think of it, it's not a modern tool, pretty much every serialized type of story with a large cast of characters utilizes specific character-centric episodes in order to maximize the character development.

Episode 7 "Six Degrees of Separation" - a Baltar themed outing. A Storyline involved a copy of Six who shows up suddenly on the Galactica claiming that Baltar is a traitor. She has proof, a photo of him planting a bomb at the Colonial Defense Grid the day before it mysteriously blew up, allowing the Cylons free reign to wipe out Caprica. The entire A-storyline was excellent from start to finish, expanding on the overall theme of the show (which is Religion, but I really don't want to get into it, as flames WILL occur, due to the very CONTROVERSIAL nature of what side the Cylons appear to be on). Baltar gets put through the proverbial wringer, from start to finish it's a GREAT performance by Jim Callis (who still reminds me of both Alexander Siddig from DS9 and to a lesser extent Jason Carter from B5). In the end we find out the entire thing was a ploy by Six to completely undermine Baltar's psyche, and to keep him under her control. 'Course, who wouldn't mind being a slave to that woman?

The B-Plot showed the after-effects of Starbuck's recent foray into Cylon flight training. It's nice that there are actual CONSEQUENCES for the dumb stunts these characters pull, like broken legs. I also LOVE the fact that the Doctor is smoking the entire time. It cracks me up completely. The Sub-B plot involves Galactica-Boomer and her slow realization that she MIGHT be a Cylon. Might.

The C-Plot, which admittedly wasn't much more than two or three scenes was that the President is getting worse, her cancer is spreading, and she's pretty dense when it comes to administering meds to herself. There's something odd about the parallels to or own culture on this show. I can't decide if I like it, or if it creeps me out.

Finally, the ongoing sub-plot, which really gets it's own storyline is the Caprica-Boomer and Helo's fight to stay alive, and get down and dirty. If you couldn't figure out where this sub-plot was going from the get-go, you get your geek badge taken away. it's completely OBVIOUS that the Cylons are keeping Helo alive for one reason only...and I think we just saw that reason in this epi.


For the second time in the first 7 episodes we get a ship-based show, i.e. there's not much special effects. And that's fine. Every week doesn't need to have a dog-fight in it. What was in this one was fine.


Also, Greg, care to substantiate your 20 Episode claim? I haven't seen anything on the number of eps for season 2 thus far...and I've been looking.

[BerserkerAzn]

=/ Using Helo to breed? Damn crazy, they could've just sent cylon prostitutes or something out before the holocaust =/ but oh well, a story's a story.

I hate myself for missing that episode where Starbuck piloted the Raider.

[Greg]

SCI FI Channel has renewed Battlestar Galactica - cable's Friday night phenomenon - for a second season. The critically-acclaimed show has been a ratings juggernaut, catapulting SCI FI to the top spot in cable among P25-54 for five consecutive Fridays. With an order for 20 episodes, "Battlestar" will begin production in Vancouver in March for a summer premiere, returning as the anchor of the Channel's 'SCI FI Friday' block of primetime original series.

The entire ensemble cast will return for season 2, including Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, James Callis, Tricia Helfer and Grace Park. Also resuming their roles are executive producer and writer Ronald D. Moore and executive producer David Eick.

Battlestar Galactica is the gripping drama of the last remnants of the human race and their struggle for survival. Desperately attempting to regain some semblance of normalcy after a devastating nuclear attack, humanity's few survivors are on the run from a sinister enemy and searching for a new planet to call home. Redefining the space opera with its gritty realism, Battlestar Galactica has distinguished itself by the intensity and present day relevance of its stories and the command performances of its ensemble cast.

James Callis a.k.a Doctor Gaius Baltar just makes the show that one bit better, his acting is supurb

and concerning Helo, it might get tedious because his caprica story starts slow but towards the end there are some major, major shocks

[WildWill]

Episode 08 - "Flesh and Bone"

A Plot - A duplicate of the cylon Leoben is captured on the Geminon Traveller. Adama, after initially ordering the crew to drop him out of an airlock, reluctantly sends Starbuck to interogate him, after the President orders Leoben questioned. The interogation is brutal, and informative. First he says there is a nuke hidden within the fleet, then he starts telling Kara all about her life. In the end Roslin comes aboard, gets some information out of him, and drops him out of an airlock...just like the dream she has at the beginning of the episode.

B-Plot - Boomer tells the Chief that she's a Cylon. Duh. He doesn't believe him. Duh. She goes to Baltar to be the first guinea pig for his Cylon test, and after being cajoled by Six in his head, he agrees. Guess what? SHE'S A CYLON! Oh but he can't tell her that, 'cause now he's afraid that she'll kill him with her cylon strength. So now Baltar KNOWS she's a Cylon, but she still thinks she isn't.

Caprica Boomer/Helo - Don't recall seing Helo, except in flashbacks. CB reports to Caprica Six and Caprica Leoben about their recent roll in the hay. Six acts pretty nasty towards CB, and even goes so far as to tell Leoben that the more time CB spends with the humans, the more she becomes one!

C Subplot - President Roslin is dying. Faster than she expected. Whoopee.


Reaction on this episode was VERY Mixed. A lot of fans loved it, a lot hated it. Myself - it furthered the storyline, expanded on the Religious undertones, but ultimately, I think Starbuck's final sequences messed the whole thing up. I just had a hard time beliving that after 18 hours of torturing Leoben, suddenly she becomes all nice to him. Just doesn't fly.

Oh and then there's that final thing that Leoben says to Roslin...I'd spoiler it for you, but it's pretty important...He tells her that Adama is a Cylon.

Now it's been fairly well established that Cylons are the master of lies (the fathers of lies you might say) so there's no reason to take Leoben at his word...none whatsoever. Yet, in the final sequence, there's now even MORE tension than there already was between Adama and Roslin.

And of course, the Sci-Fi channel boards are now full of speculation about whether or not Adama is a Cylon...but more importantly...now they're all saying that ROSLIN is a Cylon.

That's something I REALLY don't buy. Obviously the Cylons have a plan for the Galactica. They have OVERWHELMING forces, they took out TWELVE freakin' colonies and COUNTLESS starships already. I have a feeling that the Cylons could take out the Galactica and her fleet pretty quickly if they wanted to. I mean the Galactica now has something like less than 50 Vipers ALL TOGETHER to protectg a 100+ ship fleet.

So that said the Cylons are OBVIOUSLY keeping the Galacticans alive for SOME reason (hints of which have already appeared)...and I already know a couple of the BIG spoilers for Episode 13, which I won't ruin for everyone else...suffice to say, I can see how either Adama or Roslin COULD be a Cylon, but I just don't buy it.

I guess Ron Moore just REALLY wants to pound it in our heads that ANYONE COULD be a Cylon.


I await your thoughts.

[WildWill]

Episode 10 - Hand of God -


OMG, maybe best episode EVAR! HOLY FRACK that was AMAZING. Apollo is THE MAN!



A Plot - Well - The fleet is running out of fuel. DUH. They go searching for some tylium, the rare substance that powers the FTL drives and fuels the ships. They find some, well Boomer and Crash find some anyway...only problem, it's COMPLETELY surrounded by Cylons. Starbuck, who is still fracked up from her escapades from a few episodes ago, hatches a desparate scheme to destroy the Cylon base, thus destroying the Cylong presence and allowing the ore ships to start mining. Apollo leads the strike force and pulls an AMAZING manuever right out of his ARSE (the special effects were EXTREMELY nice). The day is saved, for the moment.

B Plot - President Roslin starts to have halucinations, which according to a priestess are written in the ancient scriptures. "God" may be talking to the President, and the prophecy may be fufilling itself. Meanwhile, Baltar's Six knows all about the prophecy, and sucks Baltar into her schemes further...or is she his halucination all along...hmm hm hmmm?

Helo/Caprica Boomer - Uh...she's having morning sickness, and they realize that the human looking Cylons have duplicates. Whoopee.


This episode was all about the main plot, while moving forward the serial storyling, they manage to make this episode one to remember. We're also nearing the end of this set of 13 episodes, so a denoument is coming, and soon.

But it's the effects that are the real star here. Man, I'm gonna wanna watch this one again, just for those battle sequences.

Best episode yet.

[Eidorian]

I agree that this has been the best episode since "33" and "Water". The B plot ties in nicely with a hint of prophecy. Apollo pulls some nice Starbuck maneuvers flying down the mine shaft. Number Six and Baltar weren't really annoying this episode. They fit in nicely for once.

[Majin yami]

I don't get why American s seem to hate Balthar. Before it came out in America, all he got was praise. Now (after going on several other message boards) most people seem to hate him. Can someone care to explain why?

[WildWill]

I don't get why American s seem to hate Balthar. Before it came out in America, all he got was praise. Now (after going on several other message boards) most people seem to hate him. Can someone care to explain why?


Well, he IS responsible for the deaths of BILLIONS you know...

But I dunno, I think James Callis is doing a GREAT job, and Baltar is one of the more interesting characters on the show. What I don't understand is the Cult of Boomer that appears to be forming...I mean she's a FRACKKIN CYLON!

Oh god, I'm getting to the point where Frack has re-entered my vocabulary. Makes me wonder why RDM hasn't used "Feldercarb".

[Eidorian]

I don't get why American s seem to hate Balthar. Before it came out in America, all he got was praise. Now (after going on several other message boards) most people seem to hate him. Can someone care to explain why?I've always disliked Baltar. Having Number Six implanted in his mind is a constant reminder to him and the audience that he screwed up and is responsible for the deaths of billions. He's always been greedy and self-centered. Now we have to throw in paranoia and the suspension of disbelief that the crew on Galactica won't notice that he talking to people who aren't visible to them.

James Callis is a good actor. I'll give him that. It's just John Colicos was even better and less annoying.

I don't understand the cult of Boomer either. I think it's all the sci-fi geeks gawking at an asian. It's their thing..or something. Everyone is in denial that she's a Cylon onboard the ship. Baltar just doesn't want the Cylons to know that his detector works. But he should be much more observant of her.

[Greg]

i dont think boomers that hot either.

why dont the americans get baltar ? maybe the same way they dont get football i guess, its just one of those things.

[WildWill]

We get Football just fine...the Superbowl is the most watched TV show world wide....heh heh...it's Soccer we don't like...mainly because it's borning and there's no action.

But yeah...I think the Boomer thing has something to do with her being Asian, but since that does nothing for me, I dont' buy into it.

[Eidorian]

We get Football just fine...the Superbowl is the most watched TV show world wide....heh heh...it's Soccer we don't like...mainly because it's borning and there's no action.

But yeah...I think the Boomer thing has something to do with her being Asian, but since that does nothing for me, I dont' buy into it.I believe Greg was talking about "Football" a.k.a Soccer. Yes, I get it. I watch it whenever I can on Univision. I believe that most of us Americans just have a death wish for Baltar. Well, more than likely for Number Six than him.

[WildWill]

Yeah, I KNEW he was talking about Soccer...duh.


Anyway, from Ron Moore's BLOG:


"Are there any plans in the pipeline to recruit authors and release a series of BSG v2.0 books? Of Particular interest would be the first Cylon war."

Books are in the works and the Cylon Wars are part of the possible subject matter.

"Tangentally, will the BSG bible ever be streamlined and built for public release? (perhaps as a companion to the series?)"

Possibly. A lot of the background information on the characters is starting to come out in both Seasons One and Two, so there might come a point where I'd let the bible be put out there for public consumption.

For those wanting merchandise and tie-ins...looks like they're coming.

Yeay.

[Greg]

soccer blah !,we will see in may - usa vs england in chicago( few goals for beckham & co me thinks....)

anyway, battlestar galatica, 2nd season/series, anyone have some more info ?

[Eidorian]

soccer blah !,we will see in may - usa vs england in chicago( few goals for beckham & co me thinks....)

anyway, battlestar galatica, 2nd season/series, anyone have some more info ?To the best of my knowledge Sci-Fi did renew for a second season. Filming begins in June. At least I think it's filming.

[Arky]

Another good episode...

Gaius Baltar as Vice President! I saw it coming, but I think it's hilarious. He's my favorite character, and it's sure to create some interesting situations.

[Greg]

its when he was sleeping, he stole the show

[Xar the Dark]

bumped

anyone catch the finale? it was fricken awesome. i cant wait for next season.

[BerserkerAzn]

I watched the last 30 mins, from when Boomer met all the other Boomers.

I guess her Cylon programming kicked in....and afterwards it looked like she went back to her innocent human self...It'll be great to see how they deal with her.

[PhoenixMagnion]

OMG OMG OMG OMG, They shot him! :eek:
Did not see that one coming...

Man is this getting good.

By the way, any ideas what the baby looks like?

[Xar the Dark]

its got one eye that moves across its face like the cylons. (not really)

but i cant wait until next season, it'll be awesome.

[WildWill]

SPOILERS PLEASE. It's not on for another 15 minutes yet.

[Ultimate Dragon]

I'm Havent Watched Much Of It, But My Brother Is A HUGE Fan Of Battlestar Galactica.

[Greg]

The new series/season airs in the US next week acording to aint it cool news, That was quick ?

[WildWill]

Yup. We get 2.1 next Friday. And they've shown a marathon of all 13 season 1 episodes last week...AND NBC showed episode 10, 12 & 13 last night during Prime Time.

I guess that makes up for no Season 1 DVD box set yet.

And amazingly enough, I've remained spoiler free for Season 2...

[Greg]

please dont anyone spoil it, we kept quiet for you !

[WildWill]

Kinda Spoilerish I guess...

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=31702


Click if you wanna....I'm personally VERY stoked.

[Greg]

yet again i fail to have anyself control, yet now i am excited.

[DMoChocolate]

I really enjoyed Series One...but I preferred the Original Series MUCH more..it didn't look as good, and WAS a Star Wars clone in some respects...but Starbuck as a woman...!

Still, if the US already has Series Two, that means ther'll be Episode Guides, so I won't have to wait for it to finally come to UK TV screen in another month or so, and that cliffhanger ending is MINE!

[WildWill]

Yeah, well turnabout is fair play, you guys got all of Season One before we did.

[BerserkerAzn]

Lol, it's getting really good now with all of the prophecy stuff.

[Greg]

Yeah, well turnabout is fair play, you guys got all of Season One before we did.

Remember my friend, myself and Majin Yami spoiled NOTHING !!! please everyone remember that !

[Majin yami]

You only have to worry about Greg, I've already seen the episodes aired except for the last one :o ;)

[WildWill]

You've seen all the Season 2 episodes too? How's that possible?

[Majin yami]

Notice I said all the episodes aired, not all of the episodes.

[CuttingEdge]

can't wait for the story to continue...

[Greg]

You only have to worry about Greg, I've already seen the episodes aired except for the last one :o ;)


forget it - SPOIL ME !!!!!!!

i have to admit, ive read a few on aint it cool news............

and Lost..................Whoa, new fave show !!!!!!

[WildWill]

Lost is OK. I was pretty disapointed at the final episode of the season though...like they tried to make it all "What's in the hatch" but then it just left me very flat.

Whereas Galactica...that's how to do a frickken cliffhanger...

Just FYI - from 7 pm to midnight tonight, Sci-Fi is running a mini-marathon of all five already aired episodes from Season 2. You might want to catch up.

[Majin yami]

No 'Lost' spoilers, please. The series has only just started over here.
And, okay Greg, spoilers for ya:

Episode One
Tigh gets control of the fleet. He has Lee locked up with Roslin excpet for when he's supposed to be on duty.
The fleet jumps, but Dee makes a mistake and ends up seperated from the rest of the fleet. They then have to network the Galactica's computers and jump back to Kobol to find where the fleet went. Gaeta creates a firewall that hold off the Cylons long enough for the Galactica to find out where the fleet is.
On Kobol, the survivors make for the tree line to hide from Cylon Raiders. In a rush to escape, they leave a vital medkit behind. Cally, Chief and some other guy go back to find it. They get the kit (which is needed to save an injured mans life), but on the way back, they're ambushed. The other guy gets shot and dies. Cally and Chief struggle on


Episode Two:
During the search to find the missing fleet at Kobol, the Galactica is boarded by Cylon Centurions. A computer virus brings down all power to the ship and the people on Galactica must destroy the Cylons on-board. Lee Adama, in the brig with President Roslin, persuades some marines to release them. He orders Billy and Vedder to take the president to the sickbay disaster shelter, where she'll be safe, and heads off with a squad of marines to defend the ship's magazines. In the CIC, however, Col. Tigh knows from bitter experience what the Cylons are planning. The Centurions aren't going to blow up the ship; they're going to kill the crew by venting the ship's air and then turn its guns on the rest of the fleet. And only Lee — whom Tigh despises for his "disloyalty" to Commander Adama (i.e., support for the president) — and his small squad of marines are in position to stop the Cylon boarding party. The Cylons are eventually destroyed in a stand off and power is restored.
On Caprica, Helo and Starbuck (Boomer steals Starbucks Raider) crash in Starbucks apartment. After listening to a bit of music and having a cigar, they jump in her truck and head out of the city.
Cally and Chief make it back to the rest of the survivors only to find that the man they're thrying to rescue is going to die regardless. Number Six informs Baltar that that man won't be the last of the Raptor crew to die and he'll be the only human to see Earth.

Episode Three:
A doctor has finally arrived on Galactica and begins to operate on Adama. Meanwhile, Tigh isn't coping well with the pressures of leadership.The Quorum of Twelve arrives on the ship and demand to see Roslin. Tigh's wife, Ellen, goes to visit Roslin and, noticing her weird behaviour due to chamalla withdrawal, tells Tigh to let the press and the Quorum see her, to see how mad she is. He does, but Roslin manages to get some chamalla stolen for her and by the time everyone arrives, she's back to normal. Enraged, Tigh dissolves the Quorum of Twelve and declares Martial Law.
Lee Adama leads a search-and-rescue mission to find the Raptor crew lost on Kobol, unaware that the Cylons have set up a missile battery in anticipation of such an effort. The survivors must destroy the battery before Lee arrives if they want to escape Kobol alive. Crashdown, who has assumed command of the survivors, orders Cally to basically make a suicide run so that they can destroy the battery. Cally refuse and Crashdown puts a gun to her head. He begins a countdown and on reaching three, a shot is fired. Crashdown collapses against a tree after being shot by Baltar. The Cylons hear the shot and the survivors run. ON their way, they destroy the missile guidance dish. Eventually, the survivors are pinned down and Chief makes a valiant last stand, only for the Cylons to be blown to bits by a rocket from one of the rescue Raptors.

Episodes 4 and 5 tomorrow, kids.

[WildWill]

RIGHT....love how people remember to post what they say they're going to...no biggie though...


ANYWAY, bumping this up to inform you all that the 10th episode of Season 2, airing next Friday, September 23rd is going to run 2 minutes over the standard alotted time...just in case you were going to tape it.

[Greg]

ive been trying to find a date for the UK start, can anyone help ?

[BerserkerAzn]

Did anyone see the season finale tonight?

That was one of the most intense episodes I've seen, and I'm only angry that they didn't get to brutalize Thorne more for what he was about to do.

[WildWill]

That little incident will have a long lasting effect. It may even change the entire nature of the show.

I can't believe we have to wait until January to find out what's going to happen.

Though I have heard some interesting rumours...highlight to read


Admiral Cain will only be around for the second part of Living Legend. She's not scheduled to continue the role. So...I'm guessing she's going to end up dead. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if she were a cylon. Also, the Pegasus might be sticking around after this two parter.

I loved the fact that the Pegasus was CLEARLY a newer Battlestar. Maybe not superior, but newer. I'm so glad they went with new sets, instead of just re-dressing the existing stuff. I always hated that about Trek.

[Majin yami]

Yeah, sorry about that. I've been busy with school and work. If you still want me to to, I can post synopsis' of the rest of the episodes.
I can't wait to watch Pegasus. I'll be watching it on monday and I can't wait!

[Eidorian]

Lucy Lawless and now Michelle Forbes on Battlestar. I loved the music and tension at the end. Being in many SPAN classes I've done a few presentations on Edward Olmos. <.<

I'm so glad they went with new sets, instead of just re-dressing the existing stuff. I always hated that about Trek.I wasn't able to see enough the of the Pegasus bridge to really confirm this.

[WildWill]

It's confirmed. There are two behind the scenes videos on the official site that offer detailed walk-throughs. David Eick said they purchased the basic sets from the John Woo Lost in Space tv pilot that didn't sell. They were waiting around to figure out what to do with them. They are, of course, heavily re-dressed, but they are NOT the same as the BSG sets.

They even pointed out the differences between the two ships.

Very cool stuff. I hate the tiny windows that the videos pop up in. Can't wait for the season 2 DVD which BETTER have all that stuff. (For that matter, I need to check and see if the season 1 box has all the season 1 and mini-series extras that are on the website.)

[Eidorian]

Yeah, I bought the miniseries to rewatch it before Season 1 came out. Trek did have a habit of reusing sets. The sickbay seems to be the mose reused set. It's been around since The Motion Picture.

I'll be getting Season 1 for Christmas. I'm tapped for money right now.

[pirate75]

That little incident will have a long lasting effect. It may even change the entire nature of the show.

I can't believe we have to wait until January to find out what's going to happen.

Though I have heard some interesting rumours...highlight to read


Admiral Cain will only be around for the second part of Living Legend. She's not scheduled to continue the role. So...I'm guessing she's going to end up dead. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if she were a cylon. Also, the Pegasus might be sticking around after this two parter.

I loved the fact that the Pegasus was CLEARLY a newer Battlestar. Maybe not superior, but newer. I'm so glad they went with new sets, instead of just re-dressing the existing stuff. I always hated that about Trek.
I agree, it does suck that we have to wait until January.
I was also VERY surprised as to what they were doing with the female cylon(can't remember her name). Most often it is made to be understood, but they went a step farther. Wonder what the critics will say about that?
This show is far from the older version(took me a while to get used to STARBUCK being a woman), but I like it.

[Eidorian]

I agree, it does suck that we have to wait until January.
I was also VERY surprised as to what they were doing with the female cylon(can't remember her name). Most often it is made to be understood, but they went a step farther. Wonder what the critics will say about that?
This show is far from the older version(took me a while to get used to STARBUCK being a woman), but I like it.*cough* If you read what happened to the Pegasus in BSG 1978, you can guess what will happen to this one.

[Majin yami]

I agree, it does suck that we have to wait until January.
I was also VERY surprised as to what they were doing with the female cylon(can't remember her name). Most often it is made to be understood, but they went a step farther. Wonder what the critics will say about that?
This show is far from the older version(took me a while to get used to STARBUCK being a woman), but I like it.

I think it's safe to say that they should all be shot (the ones who ***** Six).
And don't bet on the same fate for the Pegasus. I reckon they may want to keep it around. Maybe make it Rosslin's flagship...

[WildWill]

While I do not agree with the torture and ****** of the P.Six - In no way do I believe that the Pegasus crew members should be shot. Court-Martialed - yes. Shot...no.

I have very strong feelings about the Cylons. They killed 95% of humanity. COLD BLOODED. So one Cylon got ***** and tortured. Doesn't make up for the BILLIONS of humans they murdered. Doesn't make up for the one baby that C.Six killed in the mini-series. Was it right? HELL NO. Do I advocate such behavior? HELL NO. Should they be punished? HELL YES. But that's not for me to decide. A military tribunal.

Now, should Helo and Tyrol be executed for killing the interogator? No. But what they did was so far out of bounds, it's not even funny. A FAIR court-martial would be appropriate, if they weren't in a time of war.


Here's something else though...that everyone seems to forget.

Sharon is a CYLON. How do we even know that the Sharon that is currently on board the Galactica is the SAME Sharon that stole Starbuck's Raider and got impregnanted by Helo (supposedly?). Answer? WE DON'T know. They are all identical. Could easily be another Cylon that's posing as the Sharon that Helo bumped uglies with.

DECEIT. DECEPTION. LIES. TREACHERY.

DO NOT TRUST CYLONS.

Kill them All.

[Majin yami]

The problem is, is that it isn't a time of war. They war ended and the Cylons won. Humanity is in retreat. What's interesting about how the Pegasus crew treated Six is that it de-humanised them and humanised her.

[WildWill]

Check that...the war is NOT over. Not by a long-shot. I'm sure Adama wouldn't say the war is over.

yes, the humans are decimated, but they aren't going without a fight, and they SURE aren't surrendering.

[Majin yami]

I think you'll find that Rosslyn and Adama both think that the war is over. Sure, they're not gonna go down without a fight, but they both agree that they lost.
IMO, what Helo and Tyrol did was unfortunate, but justified. Let's not forget that Tyrol accidentally killed Thorne. Manslaughter should not carry the death penalty. When they entered the room, Throne had his trousers down and Sharron was being held down. You cannot say that Helo and Tyrol were not justified in what they did. Would you not do the same if it was your partner/spouse/girlfriend?

[WildWill]

My spouse is not a robot.

[Majin yami]

And here we get to the crux of the matter: are the Human form Cylons really all that robotic? They, can touch, taste, feel pain, bleed, they have emotions, hell, they can even give birth! Sounds like a human to me.

Even Adama is realising that they're not all that different to us. 'Pegasus' showed us that with Gina/Six. She had psychological trauma from the continuous torture (and that's what gets me so angry. It was torture and **** for the sake of it. It served no purpose). This whole issue isn't black and white, no matter how much we'd like it to be.

[BerserkerAzn]

And here we get to the crux of the matter: are the Human form Cylons really all that robotic? They, can touch, taste, feel pain, bleed, they have emotions, hell, they can even give birth! Sounds like a human to me.

Even Adama is realising that they're not all that different to us. 'Pegasus' showed us that with Gina/Six. She had psychological trauma from the continuous torture (and that's what gets me so angry. It was torture and **** for the sake of it. It served no purpose). This whole issue isn't black and white, no matter how much we'd like it to be.

I agree, that's why I had such strong emotions when it came to the Pegasus crew's behavior towards Cylons. If you break from normal human actions just because the enemy is so different from you and "deserves" it then your only killing off the part of you that seperates you both. =/

[pirate75]

Anyone wonder if this just the type of debate the producers were tying to ecourage?

[WildWill]

At least there's no name calling....


though I might start calling some of y'all Cylon-lovers....

;)

[Eidorian]

At least there's no name calling....


though I might start calling some of y'all Cylon-lovers....

;)Uhh...No U love toasters?!

Yeah, Pegasus really brought a lot of dicussions about the humans and Cylons.

[Majin yami]

Why can't Pojo have more debates like this: no flaming, but still managing to get your point across.

[BerserkerAzn]

:eek: OMG I love toasters!

[Eidorian]

Why can't Pojo have more debates like this: no flaming, but still managing to get your point across.It's science fiction?

[Majin yami]

:eek: OMG I love toasters!

I like toasters, but I don't like toast...

[Greg]

1 week to go untill series 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eidorian]

3 days until Part 2 of Season 2?

[WildWill]

Is it this Friday? Damn, I had better step up my re-watching of all previous episodes. We started on Saturday with the Mini, and as of last night we're up to "Water".

Besides which I've spoiled myself for a lot of the BIG things going on in season 2.1...oh man it's gonna be exciting.

[Greg]

ive already spoiled myself :(

i just cant help it.

[WildWill]

AND speaking of spoilers...

Wow...I've just seen some DOOZIES for the rest of this season...AICN has a bunch.

But then I found this too:

http://flickr.com/photos/goodgrief/83954962/in/photostream/

DO NOT click if you do not want to be MAJORLY spoiled.

Oh and supposedly the blurred out name is Gaius Baltar

Uh...yeah...my favorite show is amping it up a notch...yee haw


OH and WizKids FINALLY has some pics of the new CCG coming this spring. CUT CORNERS! Neat.

[Greg]

i had to look !, yeah i read the spoilers too, its been a good start to the series over here, episode 3 is on tuesday, i cant wait

[Dr. Blaine]

The prediction was right...Baltar it is.

I can post information about stuff from season 2 now, right? Seeing as the season is over? And a great way for the season to be over, too.

I'll post stuff in spoiler color for now and unspoilerize it later if it doesn't need to be hidden.

I can't wait to see how the ships plan on rescuing the remaining human survivors. Especially considering how they're running at half power. Boy did they mess up.

[WildWill]

Yeah...good episode last night. Can't wait to see where the next season goes.

And unlike a lot of fans, I like the new direction. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again, at some point it gets tedious.

And the jump in time doesn't bother me either.

[Dr. Blaine]

I actually saw the jump in time as a kind of nessecity for what they planned out. Otherwise, they would have had to do enough episodes to cover the length of a year with little to no cylon involvement, and they would have needed a different cliffhanger. Not to mention that they would have only left a couple, if anyone, behind. kAnd it wouldn't really be BSG without one of the robots showing up every once in a while.

Not to mention that it was a great way to do a 'where-are-they-now' thing.

Additional Comment:
Lookie! Free webisodes! (http://www.scifi.com/pulse/)

Figured I'd point all those who don't know about them in their direction. This should give you something to hold you over till the series resumes.

[WildWill]

The Webisodes were OK, a nice diversion and a good way to get some back-story out there that just wouldn't fly on network TV. Can you imagine trying to watch those in one chunk? Well, I can and did, but I can see it wouldn't have done well or kept an audience.

The first two episodes of the new season have CERTAINLY been interesting. I'm not sure if they're better than season 2 so far, but they're intriguing, and that's what counts. I'll be more excited when they actually get back to space though. Plus I really can't stand fat/soft Lee. However, Roslin kicks arse, and I'm liking Anders more and more each episode, to the point where as a die-hard Lee/Kara shipper, I can be happy with Kara/Anders, if she actually ever gets out of the clutches of that weird-o Leoben.


On the merchandise front, Diamond Select Toys has announced and shown a bunch of Mini-Mates, mostly cylons, but a new Six has been shown. I didn't get the 13" Cylon at ComicCon, and reading the review from Michael Crawford (http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=1868) I'm glad I didn't. Not enough POA for my taste. And it was like $65 at the con, going for more than $100 on evilbay currently. I'll try to convince the wife I need a Lee and Kara figure though when they hit the stores.

Oh and the Hasbro Titanium (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=browse&product_id=17678) series is chugging along nicely, with six small die-cast and one LARGE Ultra die-cast out. I have the six small, haven't SEEN the large Galactica yet.

[Ockham]

I'm surprised that they seem to be wrapping up the New Caprica storyline so quickly. I thought RDM was looking for something different and a new, Cylon + Human society with all the political and personality changes would give BSG that.

I want them to be back together and on Galactica (hopefully, also on Pegasus). But at the same time, dramatically, I think New Caprica offered more varied storylines. I'll be surprsied if RDM jettisons it as soon as rumored.

[WildWill]

Six episodes total does seem to be a bit light, but then again, there's supposed to be flashbacks throughout the season as to what happened during the 1 year and then the 4 month break.

[Dr. Blaine]

Spoilers within:

Three episodes. Unless you count the aftermath (revenge is crual, ain't it?). I'm glad to see that they won't fall back into the 'run from the cylons' grove again, at least not to start with.

Sweet episode, though. Loved it when they did the Adama Manuver. I didn't even know Battlestar was capable of doing that kind of thing. Neatest thing I think I've ever seen a giant starship try.

[WildWill]

Well, so far, this season hasn't EXACTLY been as good as previous seasons, but that's not to say that it's horrible. I did appreciate that SCi-Fi didn't make us wait LONGER in between episode 3.10 and 3.11, but still, I'm not all that pleased with this half a season thing, wait and then half a season, but it does appear to be the new paradigm in broadcast television.

I think the move to Sundays at 10 will be a good one for Galactica, and I'm also really enamored (as is the wife) of the lead in show The Dresden Files - so much so that I ordered the first book upon which the show is based.

I did get to attend the theatrical screening of episode 3.10 which was put on by TV Guide. I got to meet some of the writers, and had a GREAT time with a bunch of RABID Galactica fans (more than me! Who would have thought?)

On the merchandise front - the DST/Art Asylum Mini-Mates hit just before Christmas, and I managed to convince the wife that I deserved a box since she didn't really get me anything for the holidays. I sold off SOME of my doubles, but as of right now, I still have 8 Mini Cylons ready to wreak havoc on the soon-to-be-released human figures.

Titanium wise - I also managed to snag a "Scar" Cylon Raider repaint, as well as an extra Raptor and Cylon. I'm still looking for an Ultra Galactica and a "classic" Viper. Coming in Spring we're getting a classic Raider and Battlestar Pegasus.

[Dr. Blaine]

BOOM! Who saw that coming?

I'm guessing she's currently on a Cylon ship somewhere and she's going to have to escape. (again!)

[Arky]

So... That was one hell of a season finale. Are they really Cylons? Is Starbuck really not dead? Is she a Cylon? Why did the President faint? Is she a Cylon? What about Baltar? And what was up with All Along the Watchtower? Nifty stuff... can't wait until 2008.

[WildWill]

watching this episode is about as entertaining as playing marco polo with hellen keller.

Insulting my FAVORITE show on television is NOT good for spammers, unless they WANT to get banned.

[_Godot_]

I just watched that last episode where they revealed 4 of the 5 Cylons. I can't believe Tyrol and Tigh are Cylons. But I guess they had to be dramatic in someway, and Adama and the President being Cylons would be too obvious.

[Gaius Baltar]

Oh I wish that we didnt have to wait till 2008. That season finale was a real cliff-hanger. The suspense of it all is killing me.

[WildWill]

Uh, you won't be waiting until 2008 - the two hour movie "Razors" is coming in November. Yes, it's a flashback and won't have anything to do with the cliff-hanger, but at least it's something.

Also, the hanging cliff, yeah I hear it may not be resolved right away.