View Full Version : Duel Decks: Divine versus Demonic
Rai Kerensky
12-10-2008, 02:02 AM
Source - http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1737
It looks like Akroma versus Lord of the Pit.
Seven New Artworks.
Mage Master
12-10-2008, 02:37 AM
White vs Black........awesome, they can do a lot with this.
Lance DeVrai
12-10-2008, 01:49 PM
It looks like Akroma versus Lord of the Pit.
Looks that way. That'd be kinda anti-climactic fight, though. Why not Akroma vs Phage?
Here's hoping to a Wrath of God printing.
Mage Master
12-10-2008, 02:31 PM
I wouldn't turn my nose up at a reprint of Damnation either.
Lance DeVrai
12-10-2008, 02:34 PM
I wouldn't turn my nose up at a reprint of Damnation either.
Ditto. Wrath of God vs Damnation would be pretty kickass.
I'm willing to bet that this one will contain a bunch of Angels and Demons. (inbeforepointingtheobvious)
LegacyDan
12-10-2008, 02:45 PM
I do hope they at least make the (possible) reprint of Akroma's pick good.
Dunjohn
12-11-2008, 03:38 PM
Dunno, I didn't think Angels and Demons had the numbers to pull off a GvE-style tribal deck, or the individuality of Jace and Chandra to make a personality-themed set work. I had been expecting Angels and Demons to be the next From the Vault.
So, it's not tribal. There have been uncommon angels but no demons worth mentioning, just a couple of forgettable Kamigawa ones. And Akroma is undoubtably one of Magic's A-listers but she has no rival on the demon side. Speaking of which, it's about damn time we had a demon celebrity in Magic, but whatever. There's not enough there to build an Akroma vs X theme. Serra Angel's bound to be in there, so it's a tiny possibility that there'll be a Serra vs Phyrexians element (they went at it during the Urza cycle), but that's too remote to bother expanding upon.
Damnation vs Wrath would also be cool. And it fits the flavour. And if I'm right about this not being tribal then sweepers would fit the playability guidelines. And about the only thing more likely to sell any box set to the Spikes would be a playset of Force of Will. However, I think it might be too cool. Maybe a new Damnation, but not both.
Basically, it's too early for much informed speculation yet, ah rekin. I haven't even tracked myself down a box of Jace vs Chandra anyhow.
Catastrophe_2
12-16-2008, 04:08 PM
One other point of interest: they said that there would be seven new art cards. SEVEN. Last time I checked, seven isn't divisible by 2.
So one deck has one more Alt. Art card than the other? Or could both decks have a copy of the same card?
Also hoping for Damnation and Wrath of God too :D
On a more serious note, the biggest and baddest angel with 7 keywords (including Protection from Black) against a over-costed demon who eats your own guys (Lord of the Pit)? Demon's are screwed. Big time.
Mage Master
12-16-2008, 04:47 PM
It'd make more sense if it was Reiver Demon, at least it can kill Akroma (if I remember right) and make things somewhat balanced. As it stands I'm struggling to see how they can make the Demonic deck last after the Divine player drops Akroma on the board. Unless they can make the deck fast enough to win before the Divine player can get 8 mana out although that's pretty unlikely.
Lance DeVrai
12-16-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm still pro-Phage for the Black big creature. But an alternative that would be absolutely hysterical: Spirit of the Night. Big creature, ton of crazy abilities, legend.
I really wish it wasn't Black vs White; that leaves almost 0% chance of seeing Debtors' Knell and that makes me very sad face.
Dunjohn
12-17-2008, 01:16 PM
The seventh alternate art card may be the Demon token from Promise of Power. Or, if they include a card from a future set like they did with Dragons, the other deck might get more new art to balance it.
Lance DeVrai
12-17-2008, 01:18 PM
The seventh alternate art card may be the Demon token from Promise of Power.
That would be kickass beyond belief.
Mage Master
12-17-2008, 01:29 PM
It's interesting how early they announced this, it's almost as if they're teasing us because let's face it we're not gonna get that much new info until the last week in March probably.
Lance DeVrai
12-17-2008, 01:35 PM
It's interesting how early they announced this, it's almost as if they're teasing us because let's face it we're not gonna get that much new info until the last week in March probably.
Kinda like how they built us up for Jace vs. Chandra. It clearly works because they sold like crazy.
Either that or they really love the ___ vs ___ concept.
Mage Master
12-17-2008, 01:41 PM
It kinda makes you wonder what crazy match-up they'll do after this. Since they obviously feel the idea is a big enough earner to continue with it and there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.
Gin05
01-01-2009, 05:54 AM
I'm extremely excited for this! lol I hate them for telling this now =_= but oh well, at least I know I don't have to wait till next year for the next duel deck.
I like the theme. A very basic theme, but its cooler than the elves vs goblins in my opinion. However, I still like the planeswalker duel decks better in terms of flavor ^_^
I also really like the alternative art being created. I am eager to see the new ones. I wonder..... if the new art provided isn't even the art for the two mythic rares >_> I mean akroma is choice and its opposite is spirit of the night. I kind of don't want the demon art to be spirit of the night... However it could still be a lord of the pit. If that's the case and the other 2 for the demon deck could be promise of power and its token.
If that's the case, it would be pretty awesome. But! At the same time, if they try making like the jace vs chandra deck then they will have cards that are like the complete opposite. Like the planeswalkers, the dragons, and the elemental incarnations.
Now when looking at the angels they have to choose from I notice there are a lot of high costing angels. I also noticed cards like Angel's Trumpet, Battlegrace angel, Opal Archangel, pristine angel and so on... my guess is that it might utilize vigilance and lifelink. But like I said before... there are so many high costing angels that it seems almost obvious what most of cards will be already. Because of that it seems even more interesting.
But I wonder which ones will have the alt art xD
Catastrophe_2
01-01-2009, 06:54 PM
Sadly, Spirit of the Night gets massacred by Akroma (he has Protection from Black and not White).
On a side note, Divine doesn't mean that all the creatures will be angels, nor does Demonic mean "Demons-only". We may find Knights, Soldiers and Clerics in the white deck and some Wizards and Thrulls and Vampires and stuff for black.
Or both decks could be multicolor. Rakdos the Defiler in the Demonic deck would be EPIC.
Mage Master
01-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Anyone thinking we could see reprints of Black and White Knight in this boxset? I think it'd be pretty cool and it makes sense if you think about it.
Catastrophe_2
01-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Anyone thinking we could see reprints of Black and White Knight in this boxset? I think it'd be pretty cool and it makes sense if you think about it.
Yup, I'm thinking that too, but then, doesn't it point back to the "Protection from the opponent's deck" problem again? Akroma is kinda ok, since she can come down at minimum turn 8 (well earlier if the white deck contains lolSunseedNurturerlol) but imagine Black Night coming down at turn 2: "Ok, now you have 10 turns to draw your Wrath of God or you die. Good luck." Same for White Knight...
On the other hand, we'll prolly see the Holy Strength/Unholy Strength duo...
Gin05
01-01-2009, 08:24 PM
Sadly, Spirit of the Night gets massacred by Akroma (he has Protection from Black and not White).
On a side note, Divine doesn't mean that all the creatures will be angels, nor does Demonic mean "Demons-only". We may find Knights, Soldiers and Clerics in the white deck and some Wizards and Thrulls and Vampires and stuff for black.
Or both decks could be multicolor. Rakdos the Defiler in the Demonic deck would be EPIC.
oh that's cool. I see so that explains a little. and lol at the same I probably should have known that it wouldn't be all angels or demons.
well it woudl be awesome for some multicolor! I can see it happening... since ya spirit of the night does sort of lose.
the only thing that I can't think of is what would divine's multicolor be? since the decks should be balanced
Catastrophe_2
01-01-2009, 08:33 PM
My guess is that if Divine has another color, it would be either Blue or Red. Blue is full of flyers and some Angelic stuff (Angelic Shield, Glimmering Angel, Guiding Angel and Iridescent Angel) while red has the Boros angels (Razia and Firemane) and also the second Akroma (TWO Akromas in the same deck? XD).
But then, both decks are prolly monocolored
Mage Master
01-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Yup, I'm thinking that too, but then, doesn't it point back to the "Protection from the opponent's deck" problem again? Akroma is kinda ok, since she can come down at minimum turn 8 (well earlier if the white deck contains lolSunseedNurturerlol) but imagine Black Night coming down at turn 2: "Ok, now you have 10 turns to draw your Wrath of God or you die. Good luck." Same for White Knight...
On the other hand, we'll prolly see the Holy Strength/Unholy Strength duo...
Yeah that could be a bit of a problem. However if they only put 1 copy of the respective card in each deck the chances of a consistent turn 2 drop do decrease greatly. It really will be interesting to see what way Wizards decide to go with this product.
Dunjohn
01-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Anything with Pro: Black (or pro: white) would be troublesome, especially with Akroma already in there. It'll just keep dealing damage. That said, now that I think about it, Akroma having pro: black does signifigantly raise the chances of Damnation getting in. At the very least there'll be a different sweeper like Mutilate or Plague Wind (Plague Wind and Blessed Wind?). Or colourless kill like Moonglove Extract or Quicksand or something. Ultimately, though, that'd be rather unsatisfactory. Black Knight vs White Knight would be awesome, but my gut says no.
Western Paladin vs Nothern Paladin? That feels strong to me, I'm officially sliding my chips onto those guys.
I'd guess from the look of the logo and the overall colour emphasis of the art we've seen that the decks are monocoloured. They'll probably make a Guild vs Guild set the first multicoloured one. Can't think of two guilds that are in perfect opposition, though. Maybe Simic vs Gruul but they're both green. Orzhov vs Gruul possibly. Anyhow, that's way off topic.
On the topic of what non-angel, non-demon creatures would be in here, yeah it's pretty much certain that they can't all be the right types. How about clerics for both? They're common in both colours, fit the worship-aspect of both colours and have faced off in the past (Onslaught block). Their different abilities in each colour also offset each other nicely enough.
Dunjohn
02-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Well, it seems we're due to see the packaging tomorrow, but a slight slip-up by the website has let some MTGSalvation members have a sneak peek. I'll link straight to Melriken's grab of the photo. (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=86005&d=1235517730)
It seems that Lord of the Pit has been chosen to lead the charge against Akroma. Usually it's Angels charging Demons, but in this case, I really feel sorry for the bad guys, they're underdogs this time 'round. Just what the heck can they bring to bear against the Angry Lady? Is Lord of the Pit really the best they've got? They're doomed. Hopelessly doomed.
Packaging art looks fantastic. Not too keen on Akroma's art, we'd seen a glimpse of it before but the face just... looks... odd.
fmjosh
02-25-2009, 02:38 PM
i mean this is dumb wouldnt u think if they made any dual decks with akroma it would be akroma vs. phage the untouchable i mean they went head 2 head and they both died in the same battle.
Lance DeVrai
02-25-2009, 03:15 PM
Akroma's art looks terrible, if you ask me. I hope the rest of the two decks are good, because I'm quickly losing interest in it.
Mage Master
02-25-2009, 03:18 PM
This needs something cool like Wrath or I'm probably just gonna pass it up. I know it sounds like I'm being a spoilt brat but this whole thing just seems rather dull at the minute.
Lance DeVrai
02-25-2009, 03:20 PM
This needs something cool like Wrath or I'm probably just gonna pass it up. I know it sounds like I'm being a spoilt brat but this whole thing just seems rather dull at the minute.
I agree with you. Akroma versus Lord of the Pit is a terrible matchup and really don't like where the rest of the decks are going.
Masterofredeyes
02-26-2009, 06:26 AM
Here's to hoping for Kokusho and Yosei.
Yes I know it's not going to happen but let a guy dream.
Lance DeVrai
02-26-2009, 10:44 AM
Here's to hoping for Kokusho and Yosei.
Yes I know it's not going to happen but let a guy dream.
That'd be amazing. It's not too far fetched, I don't think; Kokusho was in From the Vault: Dragons. He very well could be in DvD, alongside Yosei.
Dunjohn
02-27-2009, 04:49 PM
Well, we have two wallpapers to ogle now, Akroma and Luminous Angel. Luminous is hardly the stuff of Angel legend but that new art is fantastic. It doesn't even matter that the original was dull as heck, this'd look amazing on Tarmogoyf. The close-up on Akroma offers a better look at the new art. The pose is great and the sword is very nice but that face just doesn't really work out. The clear winner there is the original which, unlike Luminous, was awesome to begin with.
Next Friday we get two demons. Probably Lord of the Pit and a general. Havoc'd be a personal preference but Spirit of the Night'd be nice too. Everyone wants him to at least try to balance Akroma.
fmjosh
03-03-2009, 03:53 PM
does any 1 else think lord of the pit is a horriable card against akroma. they should have used spirit of the night or phage the untouchable.
Lance DeVrai
03-03-2009, 04:07 PM
Next Friday we get two demons. Probably Lord of the Pit and a general. Havoc'd be a personal preference but Spirit of the Night'd be nice too. Everyone wants him to at least try to balance Akroma.
I'm rather exciting to see the next ones. I agree with Havoc Demon; he's a behemoth!
I actually really love the Luminous Angel wallpaper (it's my wallpaper now. lol); I hope that's the art for it, because it's very, very pretty.
Dunjohn
03-04-2009, 12:45 PM
does any 1 else think lord of the pit is a horriable card against akroma. they should have used spirit of the night or phage the untouchable.
Pretty much everyone is with you there. However, even though it's a hilarious mismatch in a one-on-one situation, I still have faith in WotC to produce a balanced product overall. Goblins vs Elves and Jace vs Chandra were perfectly matched, and I don't see WotC suddenly losing the knack.
So, could demons end up relying more on their non-creature cards as a result; thematically, fighting underhandedly, from the shadows? A lot of the demons specialise in hurting their controller - Lord of the Pit being one of them - so simply playing a load of them is suicide. While I still think that Damnation is too big a card to include, its chances are improving in my mind. At the very least, we're bound to be getting Massacre.
fmjosh
03-04-2009, 01:25 PM
lol maybe it will have sudden spoiling that will help
Dunjohn
03-04-2009, 01:31 PM
lol maybe it will have sudden spoiling that will help
Actually, yeah, that would be perfect :D
Mage Master
03-04-2009, 01:38 PM
Anyone think Black Knight might be in here? It'd be a pretty cool preview for the new Core Set that Wizards is really pushing right now.
Dunjohn
03-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I figured that Black Knight and White Knight would both be in here (did I mention that earlier? Maybe I didn't), but now that you mention it, the M10 version(s?) would make a great addition even cooler.
Edit: Turns out I did mention Black & White Knight, but I didn't think they'd be in :p Well now I do, 'cuz of this M10 angle.
Mage Master
03-04-2009, 02:48 PM
Yeah I remember it being mentioned earlier I just figured I'd mention it again in light of the new information regarding the Core Set (I'm guessing White Knight will get reprinted in there too then).
Dunjohn
03-06-2009, 04:43 PM
Well, the new wallpapers are up (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/140). We've already seen Lord of the Pit, now we get to see....
Demonic Tutor.
Now we're talking. Okay, we still don't know what the Demon deck is packing to beat Akroma, but at least we know we'll be able to get it when we want. I haven't used Demonic in years, this is a really nice card to plonk into new players' hands.
Very stonking art featuring Liliana Vess too. So this is the demon she made her pact with? Looks almost Kamigawan, though he's one eye short to be from there.
Ultimately, while the Demons are no closer to winning this thing, this update gets the thumbs up from me.
Mage Master
03-06-2009, 05:01 PM
Hello! That's more like it, at least if the Demon deck can't beat the White deck we're gonna hopefully get some cool cards out of it.
chimpion
03-06-2009, 08:56 PM
I have confidence in the black deck being able to deal with akroma without damnation. There's mutilate, innocent/barter in blood, fleshbag marauder, the edicts, death cloud, plague wind lol (etc). And if there's some sort of multi-colour crossover cards let's not forget vindicate or terminate :D
Instead of WoG a more interesting addition to me would be hallowed burial.
Anyway I think that the black deck will most probably be more tempo based with the additions of dark ritual probably.
Mage Master
03-07-2009, 02:32 AM
They could just give the Demon deck Grave Pact. That deals with Akroma pretty good if I remember right.
chimpion
03-07-2009, 07:39 AM
Not to mention that said white deck has to draw, get the mana and then play the singleton akroma. Whereas the black deck can just tutor or discard it. I so hope that they at least put the dark ritual+hypnotic specter turn 1 play in there. I'd be so disappointed if they didn't.
Dunjohn
03-08-2009, 04:30 AM
They might throw Resurrection in there. Akroma's best known as a reanimator target, but it would go against the theme.
Mage Master
03-08-2009, 06:00 AM
That and it would make the Demon deck even worse.
Dunjohn
03-08-2009, 11:48 AM
True, but while I doubt Hypnotic specter's going to be in here, any heavy discard theme on the black side would need to be balanced on the white side.
Mage Master
03-08-2009, 11:49 AM
The Demon deck needs something though, I mean the Divine deck already has Akroma and goodness knows what else.
chimpion
03-09-2009, 09:07 AM
Well I think we can assume there will be at least 1 sudden death and 1 Last Gasp. Reiver demon also looks at akroma and says hi. Hmmm Grave Pact would fit into demons as would Archdemon of Unx.
Mage Master
03-09-2009, 09:17 AM
I don't think Reiver Demon is that likely since he would probably be filling the spot that Lord of the Pit (seriously, wtf?) is currently in.
Lance DeVrai
03-10-2009, 12:33 PM
I have to disagree; I think Reiver Demon is very possible. He's a big creature, he slays other creatures mercilessly and deals with Akroma, iirc. And he doesn't afraid of anything.
Mage Master
03-10-2009, 12:34 PM
I dunno, he just seems like a Mythic to me, considering he can actually kill Akroma it would have made more sense for him to take the leading role.
Lance DeVrai
03-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Reiver Demon doesn't seem like mythic rare material to me. I just think the cost isn't very mythic.
Mage Master
03-10-2009, 12:42 PM
He probably will be in there somewhere, I mean I'd be surprised if he wasn't.
Lance DeVrai
03-10-2009, 12:51 PM
It'd be nice if it were. Now, if they avoid a majority of the Kamigawa demons, that'd be great.
Mage Master
03-10-2009, 01:00 PM
Yeah, those guys really weren't that great.
Lance DeVrai
03-10-2009, 01:08 PM
Most of the Champions/Betrayers [no one remembers Saviours] Demons relied on having Ogres in play. That'd be boring as hell for these dual-decks because that'd make the Demon one a Red-Black deck. And of course, since these decks are used to help new players as well, a two-color deck would be annoying.
Toshiro Umezete
03-31-2009, 03:28 PM
Most of the Champions/Betrayers [no one remembers Saviours] Demons relied on having Ogres in play. That'd be boring as hell for these dual-decks because that'd make the Demon one a Red-Black deck. And of course, since these decks are used to help new players as well, a two-color deck would be annoying.
Actually there are enough mono-black ogres for it to work.
However I doubt they would include kamagawa demons simply for flavor reasons. They are Oni and having a Japenese legend referance in the very much westren europe mindset of angels and demons would be akward. The exceptions are Kuro, Seizan, etc who are not strictly oni by name. (in fact the demons with oni in their name are the same as the ones who need ogres)
Rai Kerensky
04-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/33
Divine
Duel Decks: Divine vs. Demonic
Main Deck
60 cards
24 Plains
2 Secluded Steppe
26 lands
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
2 Angel of Mercy
2 Angelic Page
1 Angelic Protector
2 Charging Paladin
2 Icatian Priest
1 Luminous Angel
1 Reya Dawnbringer
2 Serra Advocate
1 Serra Angel
2 Sustainer of the Realm
1 Twilight Shepherd
2 Venerable Monk
20 creatures
1 Angelic Benediction
1 Angel's Feather
1 Angelsong
2 Faith's Fetters
1 Healing Salve
2 Marble Diamond
2 Otherworldly Journey
1 Pacifism
1 Righteous Cause
1 Serra's Boon
1 Serra's Embrace
14 other spells
Demonic
Duel Decks: Divine vs. Demonic
Main Deck
60 cards
2 Barren Moor
24 Swamp
26 lands
1 Abyssal Gatekeeper
1 Abyssal Specter
1 Cackling Imp
1 Daggerclaw Imp
2 Demon's Jester
2 Dusk Imp
1 Fallen Angel
1 Foul Imp
1 Kuro, Pitlord
1 Lord of the Pit
2 Overeager Apprentice
1 Reiver Demon
1 Soot Imp
1 Souldrinker
1 Stinkweed Imp
18 creatures
1 Barter in Blood
2 Breeding Pit
1 Consume Spirit
1 Corrupt
1 Cruel Edict
1 Dark Banishing
2 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demon's Horn
1 Duress
1 Oni Possession
1 Promise of Power
2 Unholy Strength
16 other
MeddlingMage
04-05-2009, 10:34 PM
I don't think I'm going to buy this at all. This one doesn't seem as fun as the either of the other two.
Acardus
04-05-2009, 11:11 PM
Weeee~!
Reiver Demon!
Toshiro Umezete
04-05-2009, 11:19 PM
I don't think I'm going to buy this at all. This one doesn't seem as fun as the either of the other two.
Agreed they actually seem bad, though FOIL Akroma alternate demonic tutor and duress makes these not too bad a catch. If your a dredge player stinkweed imp is hot.
Oh well I told my local card shop I'd throw down $20 for it and even though I'm dissapointed I will buy it. Hopefully FTV exiled won't be a letdown.
FYI: I figured they wouldn't be broken or anything but CACKLING IMP, HEALING SALVE?
Mage Master
04-06-2009, 07:13 AM
Ehh, my level of interest in this product just dropped significantly.
Lance DeVrai
04-06-2009, 11:40 AM
I told y'all Reiver Demon had a shot at being in there. :p
Honestly, why should your hopes have been up for this? It's Angels versus Demons. Both are a group of extremely high cost, often bad, creatures. Everything else is gonna be a low cost bad card. We should have seen it coming!
But there are still some very good cards in there. Dark Ritual, Duress, Faith's Fetters, Akroma, Demon freakin' Tutor. The decks aren't perfect, but if I recall correctly, they're just there to help hook in new players. This will surely do that.
I'll be buying a few. Having extras of the above mentioned cards is nice. Plus, foil Akroma, although the art is hideous. :p
Rai Kerensky
04-06-2009, 12:49 PM
I just want one one of the Foil Lord of the Pits. His art is badass.
Lance DeVrai
04-06-2009, 12:53 PM
He does look cool. I want some of those Legacy staples as well.
Dunjohn
04-06-2009, 01:16 PM
Woohoo, Promise of Power, called it :) I loved that card back in Mirrodin, and played it a lot.
My interest in this set has gone up. I was gonna buy it anyway, but now.... well, I'm not gonna buy two, but still, dead impressed. Power-wise, this is nothing above or below what I expected. First glance says it's dead on par with Jace vs Chandra. Stuff like Healing Salve doesn't bother me, the other DDs had crap cards because they make for interesting situations in-game and this is no different. Second glance says the decks are balanced pretty well. Akroma won't dominate like everyone thought she would. Still, I'd have given Reiver Demon the general's stripes instead of Lord of the Pit.
They did it last time with Ophidian and they did it again; Abyssal Gatekeeper is a hugely nostalgic card for me that has arrived completely out of the blue. It'll be an absolute pleasure to use him again. My favourite Dark Ritual art is Urza's Saga but this 5th Ed one is second place, so I'm happy there too.
Artwise, I love the new Duress. I may even like it more than 7th Ed's (not many 7th Ed cards had better art than before but Duress was easily one of them), I don't know yet, but it's definitely an awesome concept for the card. Faith's Fetters looks a little too much like Purge but it's still cool. Akroma's art is zoomed out waaayy too far. It lacks that in-your-face rage of the original Angry Lady. It's been a long fight and the art is good, but I'ma go ahead and declare Ron Spears the victor here.
Overall, though, thumbs way, way up.
Catastrophe_2
04-06-2009, 06:03 PM
This is going to be fun. Very :) I'm picking up around 3 of them (plus or minus one, depending on my local store's stock):P
My only gripe are the lands. Secluded Steppe and Barren Moor? Sure, they're on color, but...
bigseth
04-07-2009, 09:06 AM
i think it'll be a classic. besides their giving you the basics, not trying to confuse or let down new players but that's all these decks are supose to do for the most part so i say kudos to wizards.
chimpion
04-07-2009, 11:21 AM
If only they went one step further and added innocent blood along with barter in blood. The 2 dark rituals could give black a pretty fast start, T1 Daggerclaw Imp, T2 Abyssal Spectre (Hypnotic would've just been way too good to put in this Set). I'm sad there's no phyrexian arenas :(
TeamMfM
04-07-2009, 11:49 AM
um im new and just getting back into the game so pls dont shot me down for this question, but are these cards allowed in type 2 of no??
Mage Master
04-07-2009, 11:50 AM
The cards are legal in whatever formats their previous printings are legal in.
bigseth
04-08-2009, 11:05 AM
these deck would be better with a tomb stalker or a head hunter (demon side)
kingdave
04-09-2009, 03:28 PM
i am very pleased with the deck lists, i was hesitant with these duel decks, i skipped the goblins vs elves, but i picked up the jace vs. chandra and was impressed (even if i took chandra's deck apart and added my on flair to it). this looks awsome i love the new art for lord of the pit and you get a freakin tutor, whay more can you ask, hmmmm, juzam djinn lol JK
bigseth
04-09-2009, 05:46 PM
i am very pleased with the deck lists, i was hesitant with these duel decks, i skipped the goblins vs elves, but i picked up the jace vs. chandra and was impressed (even if i took chandra's deck apart and added my on flair to it). this looks awsome i love the new art for lord of the pit and you get a freakin tutor, whay more can you ask, hmmmm, juzam djinn lol JK
that would be an awsome addition as well as fallen angel
Catastrophe_2
04-09-2009, 06:08 PM
Isn't Fallen Angel already in the Demonic Deck?
bigseth
04-09-2009, 06:11 PM
Isn't Fallen Angel already in the Demonic Deck?
oh i'm sorry my bad but a nice card to put in their would be scion of darkness
SInge
04-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Divine should have gotten an Akroma's Blessing. Protection for all your creatures.
NoirLamia
04-15-2009, 09:48 PM
Ordered mine yesterday, is it only me or has no where been getting this deck in? I literally went to 10 places to see if they had it yesterday.
Lance DeVrai
04-15-2009, 09:51 PM
My shop has/had them, but they sold out so damn fast.
NoirLamia
04-15-2009, 10:24 PM
My shop has/had them, but they sold out so damn fast.
Oh, maybe that was the case everywhere I went lol. It mad me so upset because I drove everywhere looking for one, then I gave up and bought it online.
Mage Master
04-16-2009, 01:21 AM
I'm pretty sure my store will be sold out too. People around here go crazy for stuff like this.
Dunjohn
04-16-2009, 05:09 AM
I got mine on Saturday, no problem. It's unusual for a Duel Deck to have availability problems, it's just a regular product. Haven't had a chance to play them yet. Need to figure out where to get more Thrull tokens.
Mage Master
04-16-2009, 06:00 AM
My store pretty much just orders enough of a product to fill the needs of the guys who go in and drop £100s on packs, decks, etc. After that I think they pretty much decide everyone who wants it has it and that's the end of it.
Toshiro Umezete
04-19-2009, 11:59 PM
I got mine on Saturday, no problem. It's unusual for a Duel Deck to have availability problems, it's just a regular product. Haven't had a chance to play them yet. Need to figure out where to get more Thrull tokens.
Its an actual shortage similiar (but not as severe) as a FTV release.
My local store got about half what they ordered and the two other stores in the area haven't recieved anything yet.
bigseth
04-20-2009, 01:04 PM
well considering the guy who runs my store is an a** he's holding them till the next friday night magic......i hate my store owner
NoirLamia
04-20-2009, 06:01 PM
I received my copy today in the mail and I was very pleased with the contents, not only the cards, but the two cardboard deck boxes they give you lol. I really thought that was neat.
My local store is yet to get any, im just getting it for the alt art Akroma!
Lake Bodom
05-14-2009, 02:52 PM
My store had a few left. I snagged two. Built an interesting deck out of two copies of each. I must say the Demonic deck seems to have the edge...which makes me a sad panda as I prefer Angels.
Mage Master
05-14-2009, 02:55 PM
My store has 3 in, they're charging £17 for them iirc. Not really that interested to be honest.
Lance DeVrai
05-14-2009, 02:56 PM
My shop has 4 of them left in stock, but they want $30 for them. So not worth it in my book.
Lake Bodom
05-14-2009, 03:02 PM
I got mine for 19 Canadian each. It wasn't too bad as they were trying to sell them for around 25 and because I said I would take two they knocked a little off.
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