Dark Creator Turbo

[Lazerball]

So metagame has a list up from the creator of the original deck. I loved this deck in the last format and it lead me to many great finishes in many tournys. I wanted to post up the list and hear what people think about it and its strength in the current format. heres the list:

Monsters: 20

3 Krebons
3 Destiny Hero - Malicious
2 The Dark Creator
2 Destiny Hero - Plasma
2 Dark Armed Dragon
2 Necro Gardna
2 Dark Grepher
1 Phantom of Chaos
1 Psychic Commander
1 Destiny Hero - Doom Lord
1 Elemental Hero Stratos

Spells: 18

3 Allure of Darkness
3 Destiny Draw
3 Emergency Teleport
3 Reinforcement of the Army
2 Trade-In
1 Heavy Storm
1 Giant Trunade
1 Monster Reborn
1 Brain Control

Traps: 3

1 Crush Card Virus
2 Phoenix Wing Wind Blast

I would like to hear thoughts about the deck, and any improvements. And plz dont just say play basic teleDAD. Thanks everyone.

[DarkHeros]

Why Trade-In?
Why only 3 traps?

[Lazerball]

its all about speed, if ur having trouble understanding it read the full article on metagame.com

[+Andrew.]

Net.Deker.Bad.Kid.is.Bad.

[Zexan]

Looks like minor changes to the deck posted on metagame .-.

[the handyman]

its not minor changes or net-decking
he specifically stated that it was the exact list, but that he would like input as to if anyone had any opinions other than those expressed by the decks creator.

to the op: i felt that doom lord could have been better suited as a diamond dude, and the lack of a second PoC was sad(but maybe thats just personal bias lol)

[Lazerball]

guys, u dont know how to read i guess, it is the deck from metagame i wanna hear peoples thoughts on it. i liked the old version and like this one too and want to see what other people think, dont spam my thread plz.

Additional Comment:

thank u for stating that for me,people dont read things ever. i thought the same thing about pOc. i liked having 2 cause it leads to some awesome plays. usually doom lord just gets ddrawed, ive been thinkin about diamond dude, ill try it out i think. could be better.

[the handyman]

idk. i just think in a deck that plays 8 draw cards, possibly getting one of them free is good. and the PoC thing, its a crush target, and plasma combos ftw

[Lazerball]

very true sir, thanks for the input, will def think about it. i was thinkin about dasher but when we tried it it was not a good idea. yea, free allure, trade in, or ddraw would be awesome, im prb going to make the change to the dude.

[Garlan]

Swap that 2 Necro Gardna for 2 Plaguespreader zombie, 1 Doom lord n 1 ROTA for 1 Dhero Diamond Dude, n 1 POC, n you're all set...

[Lazerball]

u really think that plague spreader will work here, i thought about it but i think itll slow things down, not that its not a great card, but it might get in the way of what the deck is trying to do. i want to take the necors out either way, cause they dont really help the OTK setup. and i agree totally with the doom lord out and rota out for POC and dude.

[Zexan]

Ddue i wuld totily run tis ting w/o n-e changes it wuld be radicle!

[knives1990]

As soon as I read the decklist, I wanted to make the deck! I got the DAD's just not the Dark Creator's :( so I'm going to try and get some soon so I can run a variation at my locals.

40 card deck so here's my thoughts...

- Destiny Hero - Doom Lord
+ Breaker the Magical Warrior
+ Darklord Zerato

Zerato fits into this deck so well, it would be a sin to not put him in.

[Lazerball]

i dont like breaker in the deck, he makes things really slow, and doesnt really help lead to an OTK, he just kinda gets in the way. zerato isnt a terrible idea, good for trade in and allure, buti just dont see it being as much of a help, plasma seems to be a better fit, i thought about a third plasma, cause i can do all three draw cards with it. yea i have the whole thing, so no prb on making it, im goin to SJC chicago and plan on using this.

[Garlan]

It will not slow things down, PSZ will even speed things down in this deck I think..

- Summon POC
- Copy Dark Creator
- Special summon PSZ with POC
- if you have malicious in graveyard, summon lv 8 Synchro
- Summon malicious again, use the effect of PSZ, synchro for another Lv 8 Synchro.
- Emergency Teleport for krebon, summon goyo guardian with Krebons + POC
- 3 Dark in graveyard (malicious, krebon, POC), summon DAD for game..

need: POC, Emergency Teleport, n DAD in hand, n malicious, PSZ, n Dark Creator in graveyard, which is easy to accomplish via Dark Grepher n this deck draw power

[knives1990]

Breaker doesn't get in the way...the only S/T removal is Heavy and Trunade. But I can see that he would be a bad choice if you were trying to go all out right then and there. Zerato is good for Trade-in, being dumped by Grepher's special summon OR his regular effect, and above all else, he can be revived from the graveyard, unlike DAD and Dark Creator. He can also be removed by PoC and nuke the field easily.

[Lazerball]

i just dont like the zombie, it makes the deck feel way differnt from what i want it to be. and for zerato he was better last format in the deck, and here he isnt goin to do much good in setting up for and OTK. this deck does not make small turns, or anything like that, thats why breaker doesnt fit in here, it just doesnt, he is a slow card, its like sayin why dont u play caius. u dont because it doesnt play like that, it plays to win in a turn, and it should only take one turn to do thatso i dont want to **** around with slow stuff

[knives1990]

Ok first off, the only cards in this deck that should be normal summoned are Stratos, PoC, and MAYBE a tuner. That leaves plenty of room for a normal summon of breaker, then leading into a Teleport for Krebons OR Psychic Comm. And you can't rely on drawing the whole deck or at least a DAD in a single turn. It would be a bad assumption if you thought that every game you would win in one turn. This deck struggled because it had possibilities of terrible hands that you could NOT get out of in the early game; that is if you read about how Sorosh's deck only lost at that SJC pretty much because it could get terrible hands so easily. And I realize that this a new format with new cards and new strategies, but this deck is still capable of drawing terrible hands. I'm not trying to bash your opinions on cards in the deck, but no deck can win in one turn every game.

[Garlan]

PSZ is the best subtitute for Necro Gardna to making this deck even faster!!!!
PSZ alone can synchro-ing 2 times, n with Dark creator, it can synchro-ing more..

With this deck draw power, I think it's not common that you'll get 2 or more malicious in your hand, PSZ can get it back to the deck, n ..

There's so many advantage PSZ can make in this deck? I wonder why do you think PSZ'll make this deck slower??

[Lazerball]

well its kinda obvious why i dont want PSZ, its not playable in chicago, so i really dont even want to think about cards that are not legal for the event im going to be at, i dont like when a new set isnt officially out and people are already making decks with cards from it, and things like that, so since i cant play it i dont eve really care to think about it. when it is legal i will take some time to look at it, cause i do like what u are sayin, its just to soon.

[AllureOfLightness]

I played a VERY similar deck in my last regionals and it FTK'd me 2-0 both games, and I was #2 in the top 8 with DAD. I see what that can do with a god hand....and if u got OTK in mind, its gonna happen.

[[o.o]]

so yeaaa um this is my deck i guess since i made it and all but yea if u want otk... take out wind blast lol.
i only play wind blast cause i know it can get bad hands same with gardna ^_^ they are only used for times when u dont get a good hand just summon grepher pitch 2 gardnas and ull be okay for a bit.... plus this format its rly easy to otk even with the normal teledad so gardna isnt as bad as u think...

doomlord may not be as good as diamond dude but im not a fan of diamond dude... and the only reason i didnt play another plasma is cause well.... yea crush kinda hurts ^_^

also an extra poc although it isnt a bad idea it doesnt have as many useful targets as it did b4 so i only rly need 1... to either manage grave or w/e

my best advice... when making this deck better is to take out the wind blast if u want to otk. and play 1 mst and another magic that will do u justice.

so ya.... gl in chicago with my deck :)
its more fun than teledad ^_^

[LSSJ Broly]

Saw this played at the TO reg on the 8th got beat by Tele DAD in the end. He almost got top 16 at a reg infested with Tele-DAD beat out second last round

[[o.o]]

Saw this played at the TO reg on the 8th got beat by Tele DAD in the end. He almost got top 16 at a reg infested with Tele-DAD beat out second last round

yea but he also got sacked b4... one of the games he played the guy goes stardust turn 1 and sets 3 solemns.... he also said his opponents drew disgustingly well for a normal teledad...

[Lazerball]

so are u Sorosh, i hope so. we actually met and kinda hung out at Indy. I knew the guys u were stayin with, if its you. i understand the thought about CCV and crush, never really came to my mind. im going to test the doom lord diamond dude thing and see which works out better for me. and i was thinkin about dropping a wing blast, i was thinkin about a side, anyone have some ideas, i was lookin at dust of course, maybe prb decree, and im not sure about the skill drain side, im not sure how itll fit here. anyone throw out some ideas. and if u are Sorosh keep rockin the most awesome hair in yugimons.

[[o.o]]

so are u Sorosh, i hope so. we actually met and kinda hung out at Indy. I knew the guys u were stayin with, if its you. i understand the thought about CCV and crush, never really came to my mind. im going to test the doom lord diamond dude thing and see which works out better for me. and i was thinkin about dropping a wing blast, i was thinkin about a side, anyone have some ideas, i was lookin at dust of course, maybe prb decree, and im not sure about the skill drain side, im not sure how itll fit here. anyone throw out some ideas. and if u are Sorosh keep rockin the most awesome hair in yugimons.


my hair looks nothing like the way it does at like the jumps...
lol....
which is weird it just so happens that my hair looks ****ed up on those 2 days :s
none the less... yea side skill drain = good cause u take out creator engine second game...
and yea lol.
i like grandmole too

[Raida King]

Hey sorosh, did you test this deck against other tele-dad deck? i am planning to use this deck this saturday for regional, but i am afriad of inconsistency. What do you think about siding your tele-turbo dad into control dad second game (like solemn, and less draw power) let me know thanks. I am really confusing on what to use this saturday

Additional Comment:

do you think taking out 2 pwwb for 2 threating roar is a good idea? do you think maining decree is good? like 2 decree and one ccv

[[o.o]]

Hey sorosh, did you test this deck against other tele-dad deck? i am planning to use this deck this saturday for regional, but i am afriad of inconsistency. What do you think about siding your tele-turbo dad into control dad second game (like solemn, and less draw power) let me know thanks. I am really confusing on what to use this saturday

Additional Comment:

do you think taking out 2 pwwb for 2 threating roar is a good idea? do you think maining decree is good? like 2 decree and one ccv


ive played the deck a LOT so im good with it....
u gotta get used to it
sometimes even though ur hand is **** it can turn out into an OTK read my matches from toronto jump i opened **** vs Kyle andrews but it turned into an OTK lol.

i have this side for the deck

1 Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast
1 Cyber Dragon
1 Zombyra the Dark
1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
2 Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
3 Skill Drain
2 Legendary Jujitsu Master
2 Royal Decree


although its a bit outdated
cause i havent been playing much for a while
but u can do a lot with it... u dont NEED kycoo 3rd skilldrain or jujus and mole... or compuls LOL
side w/e u want

but 2nd game i usually take out trade ins creator engine 1 grepher 1 plasma and sometimes even gardna
lol.


and instead of two wind blasts id prolly play 1 mst.... and something else goats can be better than roar ^_^ since not many ppl play gb.... although vs gb its kind of bad unless u get out a plasma with it :) i like goats though...
free plasma is always nice.

[Raida King]

yeh, i like goat in here too. for skill drain side deck, is it still good? i mean noone play gb anymore and against lightsworn ppl side in 3 royal decree. should i side like twister or something? and when do you side in legendary jujitsu? mirror match? and i have decide to test this deck this weekend, so i let you know how i do. when you mention dark creator engine, you mean 2 creator, poc. sorry for all the questions, i just suck at side decking i never know what to take out

[LSSJ Broly]

;11167446']yea but he also got sacked b4... one of the games he played the guy goes stardust turn 1 and sets 3 solemns.... he also said his opponents drew disgustingly well for a normal teledad...

He played Matt Peddel i think thats how you spell it

1 Game Matt MSTed the monster that was being used by the Phantom(plasma) and won the game that way i was sitting beside them LOL and other then that DAD held pritty good control in the last game and it went in to time

[[o.o]]

yeh, i like goat in here too. for skill drain side deck, is it still good? i mean noone play gb anymore and against lightsworn ppl side in 3 royal decree. should i side like twister or something? and when do you side in legendary jujitsu? mirror match? and i have decide to test this deck this weekend, so i let you know how i do. when you mention dark creator engine, you mean 2 creator, poc. sorry for all the questions, i just suck at side decking i never know what to take out


ehh yes about the creator engine... yes about the juju but i dont like it nemore... i still like skilldrain... and its better if ppl side like decree cause u just otk them. lol.
i told u i dont like juju as much or cyber
THe side the only good part is the skilldrain lol everything else is old
i havent played..... in ages?

Additional Comment:

He played Matt Peddel i think thats how you spell it

1 Game Matt MSTed the monster that was being used by the Phantom(plasma) and won the game that way i was sitting beside them LOL and other then that DAD held pritty good control in the last game and it went in to time

WE might be talking about diff ppl
two people took my deck to the toronto regs ^_^

[Raida King]

hey did the two people took your deck to the regional top? did any of them top?

[jinzo69]

Ok first off, the only cards in this deck that should be normal summoned are Stratos, PoC, and MAYBE a tuner. That leaves plenty of room for a normal summon of breaker, then leading into a Teleport for Krebons OR Psychic Comm. And you can't rely on drawing the whole deck or at least a DAD in a single turn. It would be a bad assumption if you thought that every game you would win in one turn. This deck struggled because it had possibilities of terrible hands that you could NOT get out of in the early game; that is if you read about how Sorosh's deck only lost at that SJC pretty much because it could get terrible hands so easily. And I realize that this a new format with new cards and new strategies, but this deck is still capable of drawing terrible hands. I'm not trying to bash your opinions on cards in the deck, but no deck can win in one turn every game.

umm wrong on last part

exoida ftk

and

oham ftk

also

i agree withn yeahh this deck is pure genisus but i see the bad hands and what not

try 2 diamond dude

[knives1990]

like i said u cant win in one turn EVERY game

jackaroo

[[o.o]]

hey did the two people took your deck to the regional top? did any of them top?

one was a very bad player... while the other got sacked and didnt make t8 on last round :)
he got otked twice :p

Additional Comment:

umm this deck only gets better in the next format with plague spreader so yea.... minus 2 gardna the wind blast and 1 phantom for goat mst, 2 spreader, and 1 torrent....
it comes out to 41 when i make it i dunno if its the same as that build neway none the less gl.

[knives1990]

yeah dude plaguespreader is sick in this deck