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MonsterOfTheLake
10-29-2008, 08:12 PM
This always bothered me

How could Voldemort think that he was the only one to "discover the school's secrets" and be the only person to find the Room of Requirement when there were literally millions of items in there (where he hid the diadem)? How did he think those items got there in the first place, magic? It was obvious that other people knew about it, and hid their stuff there as well.

There's arrogance, then there's just sheer stupidity.

Then again, Harry is the one who says this. But still, since he's seeing Voldemort's thoughts and whatnot, it has to be true. So Voldemort thought he was the only one to discover a place where other people had obviously discovered and put their crap in. Don't say "he was the first one," as there are supposed to be skeletons and whatnot in there, and Dumbledore would've realized if someone had killed someone while he was headmaster and tried to hide the bones, so it was obviously from waaay before.

Sarco the Legend
10-30-2008, 11:52 AM
Nobody could say "he was the first one," anyhow since some of those things were furbished centuries before.

I know, I thought this was silly. Maybe J.K. Rowling meant he thought he was the first one to discover it in the modern time. Say the last person to use it was in 1500 A.D. Well, he'd say he was the one to find it, because 1500 was too long before his time.

And Voldemort is NOT stupid. After all, it took him a minute to remember that phoenix tears heal wounds. *sarcasm*

But Voldemort was one of the most brilliant students at Hogwarts.

gilgaland
05-25-2009, 08:57 AM
it was a extremly good place to hide it, but why didnt he hide it better, under a pile of junk or in a trunk protected with some dark magic?...

MonsterOfTheLake
05-26-2009, 10:44 PM
Because he's a GENIUS VOICE OF HIS GENERATION.

Masterdramon
05-31-2009, 01:28 AM
Harry assumes (probably correctly) that the reason that so many items are there is that other students have hid them over the centuries, but notice that this is never technically confirmed. The audience just assumes it as well because they are introduced to the Room of Hidden Things through Harry's eyes.

As far as Voldermort thought, the items were there already through the magic of the Room of Requirement in order to hide the Horcrux better. A chest placed in the middle of an empty room would have been obvious; Voldemort figured that the Room was simply covering his desire in spades by making a bigger "haystack" for him.

After all, were the books or toilets or cleaning supplies that the room manifested brought in by other people? No, the Room generated them. Voldemort didn't think that it would be any different when it became his hiding place.

At least, that's how I see it. It's the only justification that makes any sense.

MonsterOfTheLake
06-01-2009, 04:07 PM
Fair enough, Masterdramon.

gilgaland
06-07-2009, 09:56 AM
Harry assumes (probably correctly) that the reason that so many items are there is that other students have hid them over the centuries, but notice that this is never technically confirmed. The audience just assumes it as well because they are introduced to the Room of Hidden Things through Harry's eyes.

As far as Voldermort thought, the items were there already through the magic of the Room of Requirement in order to hide the Horcrux better. A chest placed in the middle of an empty room would have been obvious; Voldemort figured that the Room was simply covering his desire in spades by making a bigger "haystack" for him.

After all, were the books or toilets or cleaning supplies that the room manifested brought in by other people? No, the Room generated them. Voldemort didn't think that it would be any different when it became his hiding place.

At least, that's how I see it. It's the only justification that makes any sense.

game , set , match :)

chaosbringer127
06-07-2009, 09:47 PM
Because he's an arrogant prick. That was a point made throughout the series, and what ended up dooming him.

MonsterOfTheLake
06-08-2009, 01:11 AM
If Harry wasn't such a retard and Lupin and Sirius had the intellectual capacity to ignore the pleas of a 13 year old and handed Wormtail to the authorities, there would be no Voldy to doom.

Pffft!

Ryuzo Kiai
06-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Umm, I believe it's clarified in the book itself.

People stumbled into this room over the years, hiding stuff they shouldn't have had in the first place. But they never realized that the room itself was the Room of Requirement. That's why it was never "discovered," per say.

arielby
10-29-2009, 09:15 AM
If Harry wasn't such a retard and Lupin and Sirius had the intellectual capacity to ignore the pleas of a 13 year old and handed Wormtail to the authorities, there would be no Voldy to doom.

Pffft!

Had you forgot about Sybil's prophecy and Harry Potter's handling of Time Travel and things like that? Probably, if they killed Wormtail, another follower would have resurrected Voldemort. And if Wormtail wouldn't have owed Harry Potter a life debt. Harry would have been killed in the Malfoy Manor during HP7.

tylar122
11-06-2009, 06:48 AM
Agreed. !!!

MonsterOfTheLake
11-20-2009, 08:53 PM
Had you forgot about Sybil's prophecy and Harry Potter's handling of Time Travel and things like that? Probably, if they killed Wormtail, another follower would have resurrected Voldemort. And if Wormtail wouldn't have owed Harry Potter a life debt. Harry would have been killed in the Malfoy Manor during HP7.

Except Dumbledore tells us that prophecies don't really matter, and won't be fulfilled. Voldemort himself says that Wormtail was the only one who seeked him, it's unlikely that any other would go and resurrect him.

Harry wouldn't have been killed in the Malfoy Manor in HP7, because Voldy would still be a less-than-a-ghost in the forests of Albania, rather than in full power and resurrected because they let the person who would bring Voldy back to power go because a 13 year old asked them to.