RMT: Limit Break V1.3

[PhazonElite]

Yes, you have seen some of this before, but a few EV distributions have changed, along with a pokemon switch.

Limit Break V1.3

EVs: Hit Points/Attack/Defense/Special Attack/Special Defense/Speed

Skarmory~Leftovers
Impish-252/0/252/0/0/6
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Toxic
-Roar

Yes, Spike-ory again. This time I've decided to completely ignore his special defense stat because he works much better as a defensive wall. Plus, even if you max his special defense out, he can only survive two special attacks on average. I've invested 6 EVs into speed for tech purposes. ;)

Houndoom~Petaya Berry
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Flamethrower
-Crunch
-Solarbeam
-Sunny Day

Typical Houndoom, and my favorite pokemon. Of course, Flash Fire over Early Bird for the ability here.

Heracross~Salac Berry
Adamant-6/252/0/0/0/252
-Megahorn
-Reversal
-Swords Dance
-Endure

Again, typical Heracross, Swarm is the ability. IMO, Heracross is the best poke on this team.

Milotic~Leftovers
Modest-252/0/252/0/0/6
-Dive
-Toxic
-Mirror Coat
-Recover

This milotic, unlike most, is not supposed to be a special sweeper. The purpose of it is to give me the endurance to wear them down with toxic while stalling with dive. If I run into a special sweeper though, mirror coat solves the problem quickly.
I don't like to repeat items, but leftovers is obv~ better than ganlon berry...=/

Latios~Lum Berry
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind

Standard special sweeper Latios here, always works.

Metagross~Liechi Berry
Adamant-158/252/0/0/0/100
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-HP Rock
-Agility

As of now, the EVs are written in stone. Since it has a speed IV of 30, (it needed that for HP Rock) the 100 EVs in speed give it 200 speed, and 400 after agility.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
I'll R/F your team as well if you provide a link. ;)

[Kuiper]

At the bottom-right hand corner of your post, there's a button marked edit.

This team is so unoriginal, I've seen two just like it.

Although it does look good, except HP EVs over defensive ones, and Milotic can Trap with Wrap and stall with Dive, just a though.

No one uses fire.

Ganlon and Apicot are useless because at that point you're going to die anyway.

WW on Skarm, duh.

[PhazonElite]

At the bottom-right hand corner of your post, there's a button marked edit.

This team is so unoriginal, I've seen two just like it.
I'm sure that is common knowledge…=P

Anyways, Dive should be more useful on Milotic than Surf, so I'll playtest.
By the way, I never knew skarmory could learn whirlwind. Is there a breed chain I didn't know about? :eek:

Thanks Fallen Ronin. ;)

[Yami Jeffrey]

Fixes are in bold.
Skarmory~Leftovers
Impish-252/0/252/0/0/6
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Toxic
-Roar

Yes, Spike-ory again. This time I've decided to completely ignore his special defense stat because he works much better as a defensive wall. Plus, even if you max his special defense out, he can only survive two special attacks on average. I've invested 6 EVs into speed for tech purposes.
It works and looks good. Whirlwind would be nice, but according to NetBot it's considered an illegal egg move.

Houndoom~Petaya Berry
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Flamethrower
-Crunch
-Solarbeam
-Sunny Day

Typical Houndoom, and my favorite pokemon. Of course, Flash Fire over Early Bird for the ability here.
Also, looks perfect.

Heracross~Salac Berry
Adamant-6/252/0/0/0/252
-Megahorn
-Reversal
-Swords Dance
-Endure

Again, typical Heracross, Swarm is the ability, always works.
Guess what, its perfect.

Milotic~Leftovers
Modest-252/0/252/0/0/6
-Surf
-Toxic
-Mirror Coat
-Recover

This milotic, unlike most, is not supposed to be a special sweeper. I maxed out Milotic's defense EVs and equipped ganlon berry to reinforce it. Also, if he has a status condition, marvel scale kicks in and further adds to the defense. The purpose of it is to give me the endurance to wear them down with toxic and surf. If I run into a special sweeper though, or they decide to switch over to special attacks simply because Milotic's defense will get high, mirror coat solves the problem quickly. So far, Milotic is a huge success.
Just lose Ganlon for Leftovers as it will keep him alive longer.

Latios~Lum Berry
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind

Standard special sweeper Latios here, always works. If people still have issues with soul dew...bleh...just complain and I'll switch to a lum berry, xD.
Just replace Soul Dew. It makes him way too cheap and uberus.

Metagross~Liechi Berry
Adamant-170/252/0/0/0/88
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Agility

Well, instead of being lazy like I usually am, I gave it just enough speed EVs to use agility once in order to receive 400 speed. I'm considering using some of the HP EVs for special defense, but I'm still a bit undecided there. I can easily change this pokemon's EVs though, because it's currently a beldum with none, lol.
According to my caculations, 88 speed should be enough if u have perfect speed IVs. By enough, I mean that it should be able to outspeed any non-uber except Deoxys, but u can take a hit from him anyway. I personally prefer Rock Slide>HP Rock, but that's just me.

Overall, excellent team!

[PhazonElite]

Oh, I probably should have said these two things earlier.
I don't use NetBot, so I'm really lacking knowledge regarding it, but thanks for the info on whirlwind. I also don't use AR, because I like wasting my life breeding for perfect IVs in the desired areas. That's right! The good ol' fashioned way! =P

Back to the team, lol

I'll replace soul dew with lum berry.

Leftovers will be equipped to milotic for now, but I try not to repeat items. Any ideas on another item that could work though?

Ah, good point on Metagross. The speed cap for base 130 is 394 I believe, so yes, I'll go...

170/252/0/0/0/88

I might not use Rock Slide once FR/LG arrives though, because of Murphy's Law. xD xD xD

Thanks Yami Jeffrey. ;)

[Yami Jeffrey]

The only problem w/having HP Rock is that he can't have perfect speed IVs, only 30. But I guess a couple of points of speed isn't going to kill u. Hm, I might try HP Rock>Rock Slide myself.

[PhazonElite]

Hmm...that makes sense to me...
The IV calculation on beldum came out to be 29~31 for speed, but through testing, I found that the hidden power was indeed rock. So, before I EV train, knowing that the speed IV is most likely 30...

hmm...

I can go 92 into speed and still pass the 394 point with an agility (once he has evolved, etc) right?
If not, then what speed EV do I need?

I think I actually know the answer to that, but I just want to be sure (I'm a sucker for second guessing myself). I want to know that my last earthquake TM will not be wasted because metagross couldn't pass the 394 limit, lol.

[Yami Jeffrey]

Yes, with 92 EP in speed, his speed should be 198 at level 100. So, after Agility it will be 396.

[PhazonElite]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation. ;)

[Kuiper]

But if you want to outspeed other Metagorss/Dragon Dancers, it might not be a ba idea to slip in a few extra points.

[ajp123]

I can't say I see much wrong with your team. Heracross would be nice with EQ, to prevent the 3 fire weaknesses, but the Endureversal combo seems better. Nice, original Milotic, though. I'd playtest wrap as a trapping move with toxic, although it has low accuracy.
TEAM IN SIG NEEDS FIXING

[PhazonElite]

That's a good point Fallen Ronin. I could put 100 EPs into speed, giving me 400 after agility which should be sufficient to outspeed other metagross, plus just enough to edge out a rash deoxys (well, in the future).
I'm EV training the beldum now...there's no turning back. O.o;;;
158/252/0/0/0/100

ajp123, just like you said, reversal is much better than earthquake on heracross (since it has endure). A super-effective earthquake has power of 200, while a regular reversal has power of 300 at 1 HP.
Super-effective reversal=600= :eek:

Wrap's accuracy concerns me a little, so I'm still reluctant to use it over mirror coat. Some more opinions on wrap vs. mirror coat wouldn't hurt.

ajp123, I'll check your team out.