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Breaker424
07-24-2004, 04:06 PM
Shuckle ~ Lefties
Bold: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def
Toxic
Sandstorm
Protect
Rest

Pure TANKAGE!!! 230 Base Stat Defense and Special Defense isn't something to be playing around with.

Machamp ~ Lefties
Adamant: 252 Atk, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def
Cross Chop
Return
Bulk Up
Earthquake

Return is there until I get Rock Slide on him. If anyone can tell me how to give him Rock Slide, it will be very, VERY appreciated. :D

Metagross ~ Leichi Berry
Adamant: 252 Atk, 129 Sp. Def, 129 HP
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Sludge Bomb/Shadow Ball (help on which to use!)

I'm still torn apart on which to use for the last move. Thankfully, FR/LG will solve that. No speed EVs, Agility is enough for me.

Rayquaza ~ Lefties/Lum Berry
Adamant: 252 Atk, 129 Spd, 129 HP
Dragon Dance
Extremespeed
Aerial Ace
Earthquake

I know, an uber, but its just for fun!

I wanna use Ninetales, so could some one give me some tips on a moveset? I don't know what to use for the last Pokemon. Another tank, a BPer, a Spiker?
All opinions will be gratefully accepted. Thanks and have fun!

Metal-Mewtwo
07-24-2004, 05:58 PM
nice team, drop the uber for his nonuber counterpart salamance with the same moveset, ive tested both sludge bomb and shadow ball and found that they work equally well shadow ball has a bit more type coverage,whilst sludge bomb has a nice poison probability, as for the ninetales it should look something like this

Ninetales@Leftovers
Calm: 252 Sp Def, 129 HP, 129 Def
Will-o-wisp
Flamethrower
Confuse Ray
Fire spin

As for the bper this works decently

Gorebyss@salac
Timid:
Surf
Iron Defense
Amnesia
Baton pass

hope that helps

Jo Mamma
07-24-2004, 06:07 PM
HP Rock or Rock Slide on Metagross over Sludge or Shadow.

Ninetales@Leftover
252 SpDef, 129 HP, 129 Spd
-Will-o-Wisp
-Fire Spin
-Confuse Ray
-Roar

Kuiper
07-26-2004, 02:02 AM
Wrap on Shuckle is good for Toxic-trapping, plus extra damage not running off his attack stats. (Except for the initial attack, it deals damage based on attack.)

HP EVs, generally speaking, are better than defensive EVs, with exceptions like Wailord. HP:rock would actually be more desirable than Rock Slide, but he gets Rock Slide from Spinda through breeding. Liechi would be a better item, unless you go defensive with Rest (which wouldn't be a bad idea).

Sludge Bomb is crap. It deals VERY little damage, is of a terrible type (as far as type advantages go), and has one of the worst side effects ever. Even worse than nothing. It's more of a hinderence than a help. So go with Shadow Ball/HP:rock/Rock Slide/Explosion. He NEEDS speed EVs to outspeed anything with 130 base. And Lum would be a god hold item becuase if he gets Burned or Paralyzed, he's dead.

Wow, what a great idea to use an always-attack-first move after boosting your speed to the point where it could overlap Electrode! Those speed EVs are a waste, with speed, you're trying to reach a specific target.


For other slots, a Rapid Spinner, Hazer, or Heal Beller wouldn't be a bad idea. And you NEED a special sweeper.

Breaker424
07-26-2004, 03:47 PM
Thanks for all the tips, I'll try them all out. Ronin, I use Dragon Dance mostly for the attack boost, not the speed. But, anyway, thanks for all the help. :D