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DarkmasterChaos
07-22-2004, 12:16 AM
Note: Note: You can suggest a poke for my Sixth slot (currently occupied by a Walrein... He is just a temporary because I need a pokemon with Ice beam and EQ... So if ya know of any better pokemon... SUGGEST SOME!

Ya know the drill.... Just to note... I am a very poor team builder..... Sucky team build that I am... Help me help my team.... Since this is still early in the making process (It's only version 0.4A) I'm open to any suggestions... That includes and is not limited to: EV's Movesets, Natures, Genders, abilities and even pokemon.... So have fun or whatever it is you experience when rating and fixing teams.... :)

Houndoom@Peteya berry
Modest -Flash fire
HP 6 SpA 252 Speed 252
Sunny day
Solar beam
Flamethrower
Crunch

Basic sunnybeamer there....

Gorebyss@Salac berry
Calm-Swim fast
HP 252 def 129 SpD 129
Amnesia
Iron defense
Baton pass
surf

I love Gorebyss... It has quickly become one of my favourite pokemon... A few amnesia's and iron D's and this thing is a certified tank... Great Baton passer and overall pokemon.

Gardevoir@BrightPowder
Bold-Synchronize
Def 129 SpA 252 Speed 129
Calm mind
Double team
Psychic
Thunderbolt

I like my gardevoir... This thing will never be fast but I wanted it to be faster then the slow guys.... Double team with bright powder=Annoyed opponent and a undamaged gardevoir that continues to calm mind.

Heracross@Scope lens
Adamant-Swarm
HP 6 atk 252 speed 252
Brick break
Megahorn
HP rock/Rock slide
Swords dance

This thing is a certified monster..... Baton passing 2-3 iron defense and an amnesia or 2 and this thing is godly..... 1 swords dance is all you need with this guy and then its total sweepage. Scope is on for the hightened criticals, Brick is for stab, so is megahorn and HP rock/Rock slide is for flying types... I have Rock slide on mine, but "official" he can't get it yet... But hey what else is the AR for?

Skarmory@Leftovers
Impish-Sturdy
HP 252 Def 129 SpD 129
Toxic
Spikes
Roar
Drill peck

Ah the standard and Over-used skarmory.... This thing is great..... That's all

Walrein@Quick claw
Brave-Thick fat
Atk 129 SpA 252 SpD 129
Curse
Surf
Ice beam
Earthquake

Yes I know what you are thinking.... Ok maybe not.... As you can see.... This guy was put here to compensate for no Ice beam or Earthquake which are pretty much staple moves....I thought I was crazy also but It's something different and it can work....


Well this is my team and it's by no means finished (not even up to version 1 or for that matter 0.5) So yeah get with the Rate and fixing....

PhazonElite
07-22-2004, 12:28 AM
Honestly, you're not as bad of a team builder as you say you are.

Houndoom~Perfect.

Gorebyss~The Standard, it always works.

Gardevoir@Bright Powder
Modest-Synchronize
252 SpA, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind
-Will-O-Wisp

Heracross~Great, I personally like the reversal set, but since you use a baton passer, this set should work out.

Skarmory~Perfect

Walrein~I'd go with rest over curse and use chesto berry instead. Perhaps you could transfer the special defense EVs to HP.

Overall, the team looks good.
8/10

Mind checking out mine in the signature?

DarkmasterChaos
07-22-2004, 11:33 AM
Remember You can suggest a pokemon for my Sixth slot (currently occupied by a Walrein...)

Alright here is the thing.
Gardevoir: If I replace double team with WoW it would defeat my purpose.... I would have to take off the bright powder as it wouldn't be as effective in my opinion.... With this set up I usually pull off a goo 4-6 Double teams, and by then I virtually NEVER get hit..... This is a way is my annoyer...I mean burn is nice but I love to watch my oponent try to hammer me and miss..... But then again...... Aerial ace, shockwave and that other one.... I forgot the name..... But yeah...... They never miss ><..... I'll try it out..... What else are heart scales for?

Heracross:The reversal set doesn't appeal to me for the following reasons:
1. I'm not the type of person who likes to have my HP down to 1..... Any thing could happen.... I don't like taking chances there ><.
2. Reversal would replace brick break (that's fine) but at the same time, endure would have to take up rock slide/HP rock. That would totally screw my flying coverage that I have with him... And the coverage for the fire guys too and Ice also! (although I can use brick break for them) 9 types cower in fear of my Heracross: Fire, ice, bug, flying, steel, normal, dark, psychic and rock.... I just like this setup more..... But does anyone think I should go with Guts over Swarm?


Walrein:My friend has a sleeptalking Walrein >< It's useless..... But you didn't suggest that.... About the walrein.... Walrein has pretty sucky defense, bad speed and not so good attack.... I intend to use curse to increase his EQ power AND his lasting power.... Chest-resting is nothing new for me, but at the same time I was never a fan of it.... Let me see how this will work.... I'll ask my friend to battle me with the changes you suggest and I'll use this.... Thanks Phazon I'mma go try them.

Kuiper
07-23-2004, 12:17 AM
Houndoom's Sunny Day hinders Gorebyss's Surf.

Gorebyss can also BP Agility. For EVs, I've found that 252 HP, 252 defense, 4 special attack/speed/special defense works well, with a Bold nature. Good at taking on Physical sweepers because of naturally high defense and no physical weaknesses.

Generally speaking, HP EVs are better than defensive EVs, with a few exceptions like Wailord. Will-o-Wisp gives her tank-like abilities, although in that case you'd need Leftovers for recovery.

Scope Lens only works with insane Critical combos, like Scope Lens+Focus+Energy+Blaze Kick/Slash/Cross Chop, though Focus Energy can be excuded. Liech or Salac would be better.

Skarmory is a physical wall. Max HP and defense. And Whirlwind>Roar.

Surf with Ice Beam and Earthquake is redundant. Look at it this way:
Surf covers Fire, Rock, and Ground.
Ice Beam covers Ground.
Earthquake covers Fire and Rock.
And Curse for the sake of one physical move is pointless.