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PhazonElite
07-19-2004, 03:40 PM
EVs: hp/att/def/spa/spd/sp33d

Houndoom@Petaya Berry
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Flamethrower
-Crunch
-Solarbeam
-Sunny Day

A personal favorite, it wipes out much more than people would think. Flash Fire is the ability of course.

Heracross@Salac Berry
Adamant-6/252/0/0/0/252
-Megahorn
-Reversal
-Swords Dance
-Endure

Swords Dance to pump the attack, so liechi was used for another poke. Guts over Swarm for the ability here.

Dusclops@Leftovers [props to metal-mewtwo]
Bold-252/0/129/0/129/0
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp
-Confuse Ray
-Rest

This is exactly what I wanted, a good tank/annoyer.

Metagross@Liechi Berry
Adamant-0/252/0/0/129/129
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Shadow Ball
-Agility

Basic gross, but I'm still a little skeptical on adding sludge bomb here. If anyone has tested sludge bomb, please share your experience. Rock Slide will probably go over shadow ball when FR/LG arrives.

Latios@Soul Dew
Modest-6/0/0/252/0/252
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind

This really isn't as cheap as people think. Basically, physical attacks destroy Latios in no time. I tend to use this against tanks and other special sweepers.

Slaking@Choice Band
Adamant-6/252/0/0/0/252
-Return (might go back to hyper beam, still testing)
-Earthquake
-Shadow Ball
-Brick Break

The run-of-the-mill 460 attacker.

Thanks ^_^

Jo Mamma
07-19-2004, 05:31 PM
I'm lovin the team, Phaz.

Rock Slide on Meta over SB.

Dragon Claw and T-Bolt over Recover and ice beam on Latios.

Return over hyper on slaking.

~n0nS

PhazonElite
07-19-2004, 05:58 PM
Well, I can't get rock slide on meta yet because FR/LG isn't out yet (or is it...?) XD
But when it comes, rock slide is definately going over shadow ball.

I'll probably go return over hyper beam because when hyper beam misses...it REALLY sucks. =P

I'll probably do thunderbolt over recover because...I can't remember the last time I used recover with him...lol.

Thanks for all the input n0nS.

Maverick Hunter
07-19-2004, 07:26 PM
Houndoom- Good, but I'd go Petaya or Salac over Lefties

Heracross- use Swarm for the Ability, the reason being: after Endure keeps you alive with 1 HP point and Swords Dance, Reversal will Murder, and Megahorn will do mroe with Swarms powerup!

Metagross- I have tested Sludge Bomb because mine has it (over Shadowball) and it's come into great handy, of course i will use Rock Slide when FR/LG is around.

Latios- The only reason it isn't cheap is because Latios is pokemon too, it is really strong though, it looks good.

Slaking- Hyper Beam over Return!! he recharges while he's loafind around, so u get to attack just as often and Hyper Beam is way stronger!!

for the Last pokemon there are a ton of options

Metal-Mewtwo
07-19-2004, 09:24 PM
as for your last pokčmon, i recomend a dusclops

Dusclops@Chesto/Leftovers
Bold-Pressure
Night Shade
WoW
Confuse Ray
Rest

split evs between Defense/Special Defense

PhazonElite
07-19-2004, 09:47 PM
Thanks for the replies Maverick and Mewtwo.
Hmm...I dunno, I still had 12 hyper beam TMs last time I checked, so I can switch back if I think its better.

I'll go with petaya over leftovers on houndoom, it makes a good bit of sense.

Another question about sludge bomb though. Poison is only super-effective against grass, correct? So do you use the bomb to simply poison tanks sometimes, or is there some other use that I'm missing?

As for the dusclops, I really like that suggestion. I'll start breeding one in the morning.
Thanks ^_^

Kuiper
07-20-2004, 12:58 AM
On Houndoom, I'd go with Modest+Salac or Timid+Petaya. Pursuit OHKOs Alakazam on the switch.

Swarm is necessary to go with the 1 HP theme. (200 Reversal and 180 Megahorn, plus STAB.) Save him for later when you've hopefully eliminated any flyers.

Dusclops can kill Blissey with Toxic+Mean Look. And Imprison is always nice with Toxic. (No Rest.)

Metagross could have HP:rock over Shadow Ball. And the speed EVs are a waste.

Dragon Claw on Latios over Ice Beam for STAB.

NO! NO BRICK BREAK ON SLAKING! A STABed Return does more than a super-effective Brick Break, and for Rocks and Steels you've got Earthquake. Focus Punch. And Hyper Beam is no good if he's a Choice Bander.


Double weakness to fire, double weakness to fighting, double weakness to ghost, double weakness to ground, double weakness to Dark, sorry, I'm almost sure I missed some, but I've got less than two minutes left.

No Hazer, no Rapid spinner.