Final Countdown

[Dark Marik 07]

In a tag tournament we had a few years ago this card proved to be the easiest win condition. IS it still?

Also should there be Seperat forbidden List for this format of the game to include cards like this and Burn?

[StevenHxC]

Yes, I do believe they should.

We have had these at my locals, and A team used BURN, and won. Hands down... Just Deserts, Secret Barrel, on both players at a time? Brokenness.

[Dark Marik 07]

Tag-Team Duel Forbidden and Restricted List:

This is treated as an addition to the normal banned/Restriction list. Unless a card is listed below, it is the same as it is on the Advanced Format list.

Banned Cards:

Ceasefire
Chain Strike
Gift Card
Final Countdown
Just Deserts
Magic Cylinder
Magical Explosion
Secret Barrel


Limited Cards:

Bad Reaction to Simochi
Des Koala
Dimensional Wall
Meteor of Destruction
Tremendous Fire
Wave-Motion Cannon


Semi-Limited Cards:

[shadow_of_chaos]

that would be nice but its up to the officials to make another list or not

[Ice_ghs]

In a tag tournament we had a few years ago this card proved to be the easiest win condition. IS it still?

Also should there be Seperat forbidden List for this format of the game to include cards like this and Burn?

It can be.

But on the another list Secret Barrel and Just deserts need to be limited.

Ceasefire is not as bad.as the others can be.

[Dark Marik 07]

It can be.

But on the another list Secret Barrel and Just deserts need to be limited.

Ceasefire is not as bad.as the others can be.

well i think it is worst then Just Deserts...it basically does 500 for every monstet on the field since hardly anyone uses basic ritual, fusion, or normal monsters currently outside of a normal monster deck.

[bishoplord4]

We don't need another ban list, the ban list was made to kill Chaos, and stop Yata nothing more. The list has been getting more and more cards. Come on banning call of the haunted it is a one for one, and easily countered. It isn't that great. It didn't deserve to get banned. The only card that you mentioned that may be overpowered above is ceasefire. Secret Barrel doesn't do that much, magic cylindar is not that great. Besides most people don't play burn, in my tag team match there were sixteen players and I was the only one using burn. We finished second, we lost the first, we beat a couple of random decks second round, and third round we played against a final countdown deck and a remove from play deck. We won this because of luck, and planning out every move. Most games don't last twenty turns even in a tag team duel.

[MidKnightLT]

Come on banning call of the haunted it is a one for one, and easily countered. It isn't that great. It didn't deserve to get banned.
EVERY non-themed and generic COSTLESS revival like CoTH needs to get banned.

How many people did you see who tried to COUNTER call of the haunted, instead of running it?Yeah, you can destroy it with MST after it gives +2 from disk commander or +1 from sangan..

Pot of greed was easily countered too.Just run Spell canceller

[The_Grey_King]

Life-Countdown is by far the best deck in the format. It beats the burn decks, hands down.

1 activation of Neo-Spacian Air Hummingbird, 1 Aegis of Gaea and any sort of stall (Level Limit, Gravity Bind, Messenger, Stumbling) Is enough so that no burn deck can ever kill you (barring morphing jar), even AFTER paying 2000 for Final Countdown.

[Shinobi-Ken]

Life-Countdown is by far the best deck in the format. It beats the burn decks, hands down.

1 activation of Neo-Spacian Air Hummingbird, 1 Aegis of Gaea and any sort of stall (Level Limit, Gravity Bind, Messenger, Stumbling) Is enough so that no burn deck can ever kill you (barring morphing jar), even AFTER paying 2000 for Final Countdown.

Yes, and that's where Nurse Reficule laughs in your face!

But Countdown is good, only if your running stuff like skill drain and such.

It's really hard to tell what is going to do well in Tag team cuz theres a lot of tier 1 decks: add any if I missed

4 Turn Burn (both players running stuff to deal at least 4000 damage on their turn)

Nurse Burn (Basically Chain Strike with Nurse and Bad Reaction-counters decks that main life gaining cards, the best burn if you know people will be maining stuff like Rainbow Life and Prime Material Dragon)

Chain Strike Burn (more consistent than the other two, but lacking speed. Makes up for it by running stuff like Rainbow life and Hallowed Life Barrier in the main, has the most draw power of any burn deck.)

CO Burn (of course this is teched out with life gaining cards. Already running 3 Drains and sets of bribe and solemn. Handles other non burn decks best.)

Six Samurai (one of the best aggro attack oriented decks. Maining Prime Material Dragon with Reasonings is brutal. Can stand up against random Otk and other decks that attack.)

Batteryman (I didn't think this was good, but considering I won a tourney with this yesterday tagging with a chain strike deck, I'm convinced. Short Circuit annihilates your opponent, and mains Jinzo and Prime with 3 Reasonings and Rainbow Life)

Magical Explosion (now that D Fusion is banned, this is the older version of explosion. Strong points include being able to FTK so it won't matter what your opponent is playing, but if you don't get it off, your partner will have to pick up a lot of slack for you.)

Baboon Burn (Baboon maining Des Wombats and Prime. It can handle other decks like Samurai by being able to stand swarm and put out Green Baboon to handle threats like Shien. Burn cards like Barrel, Koala, and Desserts give it a fighting chance against other burn decks)

Countdown (Final Countdown running 3 Rainbow Life 3 Hallowed Life Barrier, 3 Pikeru Circle of Enchantment 3 Roars ect. Basically prevents all damage both attack oriented and effect oriented for 5 of your turns. Can be good, but gets killed by four turn burn and nurse burn if you don't have a good draw.)

Tech Deck (total tech deck. It's not proven to be consistent in tag, but I've seen people do well with it. Basically it runs 3 Reasoning 3 Prime Material 3 Jinzo 2-3 Cold Wave Ceasefire Just Desserts Needle Ceilings, basically cards that are abused by the tag system. I saw one being played with a baboon burn deck with Wombats that won a large tag tourney. Although the baboon player opened up with a Wombat and they were facing two 4 turn burn decks!)

??? (a secret deck that im using at nats, basically a sort of OTK/FTK, but if it doesn't go off, my partner can definitely finish my opponent off.)

[Cybuh Dragz]

I won w/ PCM & MEgarock OTK, against 7 burners, ruin any stall or use floaters

[hafesie]

If they have twice the burn you have twice the number of turns to stop it.

Done.

[Frog_Master]

My girlfriend and I won using a combo Destany Board/ Final Countdown deck...Des Wombats stopped the burn and we got the Board off almost every game...

[mvidmaster2]

This tag dueling reminds me of a quote: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

It's basically just two man solitaire for whoever goes first. More like Tag Circle Jerking than Tag Dueling.

[dUck]

The tech deck looks Interesting.

[SInge]

One way to solve Burn deck problems is by increasing the amount of LP to 16000.

Also limit Life Equalizer.

[Cipher22]

One way to solve Burn deck problems is by increasing the amount of LP to 16000.
This is exactly how we play it at my locals. I doubt most of the people there even know there are now official Tag Team rules. Of course, the only time people ever double duel is after they're knocked out of the tournament.

We have had these at my locals, and A team used BURN, and won. Hands down... Just Deserts, Secret Barrel, on both players at a time? Brokenness.
The entire effect of “Secret Barrel” will be applied against 1 selected opponent. You will count the cards on that 1 opponent’s side of the field and the cards in that 1 opponent’s hand when determining the damage to inflict.
Secret Barrel isn't as broken as you might think.

[Shinobi_Soldier]

I'm not a fan the tag dueling format, because it reduces the game to a diceroll. everyone here plays a brun deck that kills you in there second players first turn. It's so harsh. And the tourneys take over one of the regular days once per month. I agree a banlist could be put in to solve some of the tag dueling issues.

[WildeHeart]

EVERY non-themed and generic COSTLESS revival like CoTH needs to get banned.

How many people did you see who tried to COUNTER call of the haunted, instead of running it?Yeah, you can destroy it with MST after it gives +2 from disk commander or +1 from sangan..

Pot of greed was easily countered too.Just run Spell canceller

You seriously post this in every single section... Can't you keep it in Banned/Restricted list discussion? And Call is relatively easy to counter: chain MST/Dust Tornado/Twister/Decree etc. That stops the Disc etc from ever hitting the field so no +2... Unless your awful, you won't waste an MST on a Call of the Haunted-ed Disc Commander... you would just attack over it.

This tag dueling reminds me of a quote: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

It's basically just two man solitaire for whoever goes first. More like Tag Circle Jerking than Tag Dueling.

Ew, lol.