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Dark Pharaoh
12-30-2007, 12:37 PM
Have you ever wondered what makes someone a pro duelist? Is it their ability to cheat in any situation, or how about their incredible deck-building skills? Their strategies? I'm curious to see what Pojo thinks of the "Pros".

goldenjinzo30
12-30-2007, 12:39 PM
If you are a good Yu-Gi-Oh! duelist.

in b4 "there are no pros in yugioh"

Mr. Random
12-30-2007, 12:42 PM
If you have at least one top 8 at a regional and no most of the card rulings. Thats what I believe makes someone a pro.

Oh yeah maybe a big ego too.

PanCubano
12-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Actually, the real question is "what make's someone good at this game"

Probably when they can make good reading's and good call's on certain plays at the right time and be able to top good in many tourny's

Pro's would be considered someone who recieves a check in their name every month for this game

Which we still don't have.

Swordstrike
12-30-2007, 01:12 PM
cheating.

yeah thats the answer if you want to be good in this game.

TheRockBoS
12-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Ahem.

Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, did I mention practice, and luck.

Winter Soldier
12-30-2007, 01:21 PM
there are no pros in ygo
but there are ppl that always top 8 or 16 at sjcs and regs
the real pros are the ppl that won a ccv and sold it for $2,500+ on ebay
those r the smart ppl

Dark Pharaoh
12-30-2007, 01:23 PM
I think that in order to be a pro you must have a great understanding of the game and all it's aspects, as well as a lot of dueling experience. I believe you must also be pretty lucky too. Confidence is always a major part as well, if you don't believe you will win, then you won't. Cheating makes you nothing and I mean nothing. If you have to cheat in any shape or form to win, you are just showing how much of a coward you really are.

Mengde
12-30-2007, 01:35 PM
We just had this topic, like... three weeks ago. But, I guess I can copy/paste exactly what I said in the other topic.

In my opinion, a pro of a game or sport is someone who plays on a professional circuit. As in many sports, there is a professional league, such as the NFL for football, MLB for baseball, etc. In Magic: the Gathering, there is a Pro Tour that you can qualify to join through victories in Pro Tour Qualifier events and other means. Yu-Gi-Oh! has no such circuit, so I believe, at least based on this, that there is no such thing as a "pro" Yu-Gi-Oh! player.

Hollistar
12-30-2007, 01:37 PM
Training, Always thinking, thinking about what your opponets going to do, Think about over playing, Legal Stack, Not run parrerells, Multiple top 8's.

Cheatings pro too though!~

BTW: I made the last thread XD

Xing*
12-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Knowing when and how to play your cards in many situations makes you a pro, in other words having lots of skill. And people, good players don't cheat. They win by skill, I've seen it myself.

Hollistar
12-30-2007, 02:21 PM
How come the posts here are way different then they where on mine? o_O;
On mine all it was was, "A pro is when some on gets paid".

Not-So TinyMech
12-30-2007, 03:46 PM
Pro's would be considered someone who recieves a check in their name every month for this game

Which we still don't have.

There you go.
There are NO professional Yu-Gi-Oh! players, mainly because there are NO cash tournaments.
A pro is a person who "gets payed" when they win, AKA somebody who wins a big cash tournament. No i'm not talking about some local one, I mean, like in VS they had 10K tournaments, where the prizes for top places were split evenly among $10,000

So, sorry, no such thing as a pro in Yu-Gi-Oh!

Spells
12-30-2007, 03:56 PM
1. makes a ****load of money
2.ranks top 25 in the world.
3.can win with a new deck type.

A to the J
12-30-2007, 03:59 PM
shuffle your hand real fast, when you play your cards you grab them by the LEAST accessible corner and snap it down. you look at your grave for like 10 minutes still knowing it wont help you. say "cards in hand"(instead of just asking how many cards are in your hand). ya kno.. all that gay stuff

_jsl_
12-30-2007, 04:20 PM
shuffle your hand real fast, when you play your cards you grab them by the LEAST accessible corner and snap it down. you look at your grave for like 10 minutes still knowing it wont help you. say "cards in hand"(instead of just asking how many cards are in your hand). ya kno.. all that gay stuff

Playing your cards upside down, flicking your Monarchs / Monster Gate over your tribute monster, refusing to say ANYTHING, and frequent usage of the word "sack" or "noob" after losing a game.


I think we covered pretty much everything.

Omarkhan2006
12-30-2007, 04:20 PM
yea this topic was made already so expect it to be closed

KingOfKings
12-30-2007, 04:22 PM
shuffle your hand real fast, when you play your cards you grab them by the LEAST accessible corner and snap it down. you look at your grave for like 10 minutes still knowing it wont help you. say "cards in hand"(instead of just asking how many cards are in your hand). ya kno.. all that gay stuff


So you are learning..good lol...

you forgot playing all nice and neat. Oh and you forgot playing very flashy sometimes or having a cool playmat to match sleeves, outfit, and calculator. That's always pro. LOL

A to the J
12-30-2007, 05:46 PM
So you are learning..good lol...

you forgot playing all nice and neat. Oh and you forgot playing very flashy sometimes or having a cool playmat to match sleeves, outfit, and calculator. That's always pro. LOL

im not spending money on anything other than cards or sleeves.. and i dont remember the last time my outfit had to match my sleeves/mat..

it doesnt matter.. the faster i shuffle my hand.. the better i become

Additional Comment:

Playing your cards upside down, flicking your Monarchs / Monster Gate over your tribute monster, refusing to say ANYTHING, and frequent usage of the word "sack" or "noob" after losing a game.


I think we covered pretty much everything.

haha yea....and when you play your cards, you stretch your pointer finger and hyper extend it and tap the card all f aggot like

darkfisherman
12-30-2007, 06:16 PM
nothing through yugioh.

professionals must rely on their talents to live off of.
yugioh does not pay enough to put someone above the poverty line.

pro+Yugioh= non-existant

luckyspell
12-30-2007, 06:35 PM
professional
(prə-fĕsh'ə-nəl) pronunciation

adj.
1. Of, relating to, engaged in, or suitable for a profession: lawyers, doctors, and other professional people.
2. Conforming to the standards of a profession: professional behavior.
2. Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a career: a professional writer.
3. Performed by persons receiving pay: professional football.
4. Having or showing great skill; expert: a professional repair job.

n.

1. A person following a profession, especially a learned profession.
2. One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation: hired a professional to decorate the house.
3. A skilled practitioner; an expert.

Opinions don't really matter when you're confronted with facts.

Have fun arguing now.

d.d. ewg
12-30-2007, 06:38 PM
To be pro you must get paid.

Also if you ask your not pro.

Minato Namikaze
12-30-2007, 06:40 PM
Why is there another thread about this?

There are no 'pros' in Yu-Gi-Oh!

There are extremely good players that do well consistently but there are no profesional players.

A person that is extremely good and does well consistently are the players that know basic game mechanics, basic rulings, up-to-date on card errata and information and they can play their deck that they use to the best of its ability.

ReSeT *<
12-30-2007, 06:53 PM
You know you're a pro when your name is Louie Raimondo, Jonathan Labounty, or Emon Ghaneian... DUH!

goldenjinzo30
12-30-2007, 07:15 PM
Notice for all of you incredibly stupid people out there: The topic starter, and nobody else, are being literal when it comes to the word "pro". The term "pro" is a slang term that many players use to describe something good, so good even that the "pro" players are on their own level, above the "average" and "above average" players. So your weak attempts to be cool/funny by posting dictionary references and whatnot have failed. I know you were all probably too stupid to comprehend that, but I had to get it off my chest.

In conclusion: Please actually contribute something to the topic instead of trying to be funny and failing. Better yet, if you don't know what the **** you're talking about, don't post! What a concept!

Minato Namikaze
12-30-2007, 07:27 PM
People who call themselves 'pros' in this game are actually the uber ******ed ones. You insult other professional players (like those of Magic the Gathering and WTP players) by calling yourself a 'pro' when this game doesn't offer cash prizes like so many other card games out there.

Too bad this game will never reach the status where there are 'pro' players because the creator of this game believes it is vulgar to hand out cash prizes. I'm not being stupid, I'm being realistic (unlike so many other people on these boards and those who play this game)

yoshiboy
12-30-2007, 07:32 PM
What makes some one "pro" in the real world is people that get actual pay as a profession. Not a card game.

d.d. ewg
12-30-2007, 07:35 PM
What makes some one "pro" in the real world is people that get actual pay as a profession. Not a card game.

some card games have pros that get payed.

Minato Namikaze
12-30-2007, 07:37 PM
What makes some one "pro" in the real world is people that get actual pay as a profession. Not a card game.

Poker, Magic the Gathering, VS System

dragonkiler
12-30-2007, 07:38 PM
you dink more people play yugioh tan all other card games combined including the oh i cant play anything because i have no manna mtg game. Stupid people like you that post their opinion when they have no clue what they are talking about end up wasting peoples times when you post stuff when you are clearly stupid

Minato Namikaze
12-30-2007, 07:52 PM
you dink more people play yugioh tan all other card games combined including the oh i cant play anything because i have no manna mtg game. Stupid people like you that post their opinion when they have no clue what they are talking about end up wasting peoples times when you post stuff when you are clearly stupid

If you want people to understand you, then you need to know how to express yourself properly. By properly, I mean a better format of sentence structure and or the better use of a period/comma.

I would think that the game that has the most players would be Magic the Gathering. Its been around a lot longer then Yu-Gi-Oh! and its players are the ones that stay around longer then the Yu-Gi-Oh! players.

Message boards are DESIGNED for people to post their opinions. That is the sole purpose of them. Your well on your way to becoming a respectful member of this pojo community if you continue to post this way.

Iceflamemaster
12-30-2007, 08:07 PM
i am typing this while not reading the acticle, meerly the title, that is why im a pro, i dont proliferate crap like this. thats what makes a true pro.

The_Dark_Monarch
12-30-2007, 09:47 PM
We just had this topic, like... three weeks ago.
I just cbf referring the OP to that. I am also in a stupid mood:
1. Learning how to use the search function.
2. Learning how to use the ignore function.
3. Not listening to anybody who tells you your deck sucks without them dueling against it & thus being able to tell others to "get stuffed" without remorse.
4. Not listening to anybody at all, really & trusting your own instincts & intuition.
5. Learning how to say "mind your own f'ing business" on a regular basis.
6. Having a posse of "netdeckers" out to kill you.
7. Disregarding all threads about cheating & learning the fine art of how to "unstack" your opponent's deck
8. Studying metagame trends, as if you were being graded for an important test.
9. Knowing when to LOL at the most inopportune of times.
10. Pretending to have a watch & constantly look at the "time"
11. Working for UDE, thus receiving a regular paycheck for your involvement in this game.
12. When FUN, equates to Fail U Noob.
13. When you grow a chest to pin a badge upon it, saying you are a "pro" at an insignificant children's card's game, which 99.9% of the world couldnt give a damn about anyway.

There we go..addendum to my previous reply in detail.

Morzan
12-30-2007, 11:09 PM
Innovaters. Someone who can take the unlikely and make it a good tourney worthy deck. By tourney worthy I mean make it into like the top 4 or top 8. That's my definition. Overall, I agree with Goldenjinzo on this subject.

Tricky
12-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Pro is when you make money playing a game. You can't make money at ygo events so there are no ygo pros =\.

yoshiboy
12-31-2007, 08:16 AM
Poker, Magic the Gathering, VS System

Oh my. You people are seriously sad. =(

Ask any adult about this. CARD GAMES IS NOT A PROFESSION.

Nuff said

Mengde
12-31-2007, 10:26 AM
Oh my. You people are seriously sad. =(

Ask any adult about this. CARD GAMES IS NOT A PROFESSION.

Nuff said

So, I'm guessing people like Jamie Gold, Joe Hachem, and Daniel Negreanu just play a little poker on the weekends as a casual hobby, right?

The_Huaso
12-31-2007, 10:27 AM
Get paid for playing

nuff said and failed topic

Duel-God
12-31-2007, 12:08 PM
If you have at least one top 8 at a regional and no most of the card rulings. Thats what I believe makes someone a pro.

Oh yeah maybe a big ego too.

I guess I can't be pro since I don't have an big ego. I could be considered pro since I used to go to money tournaments and win cash. Other than that you have to be on a sponsored team like Nexus.

invincible_1991
12-31-2007, 12:16 PM
There are no literal pros in yu-gi-oh.

What makes someone "pro" is a very good understanding of the game, and every aspect of it.:cool:

DarkRedMoon
12-31-2007, 03:38 PM
Pro's would be considered someone who recieves a check in their name everyweek for this game. Would also be able to win with just able any deck.

Which we still don't have.

Henryy
12-31-2007, 03:42 PM
What makes someone a good player is the proper question..

Once you have become "good" at this game you must have:

Learned which cards to put in certain deck.
Actually tested those cards.
And have had success with the game.

Vampire_Lady
12-31-2007, 05:42 PM
Any player that is talented enought to win a big tourney.

enjoyonionrings
12-31-2007, 05:54 PM
This entire Pojo community for Yu-Gi-Oh! is blatantly stupid and immature. I've seen at LEAST three "what makes a pro" topics in the past MONTH, each with the same arguments and crap. You guys really think ANYONE will look upon you as a "professional Yu-Gi-Oh! player" with this kind of attitude and level of maturity? No. Do you guys get paid to play? No.

mrexodia
12-31-2007, 06:54 PM
Have you ever wondered what makes someone a pro duelist? Is it their ability to cheat in any situation, or how about their incredible deck-building skills? Their strategies? I'm curious to see what Pojo thinks of the "Pros".

rule number 1:
don't post something like this

rule number 2:
Go read rule number 1

flopolopagus bunny
01-03-2008, 02:04 PM
we don't have pro and good players is not making mistakes. most so call pro
make fewer mistakes then the good players. the word is practice practice and practice

KingOfKings
01-03-2008, 03:12 PM
Notice for all of you incredibly stupid people out there: The topic starter, and nobody else, are being literal when it comes to the word "pro". The term "pro" is a slang term that many players use to describe something good, so good even that the "pro" players are on their own level, above the "average" and "above average" players. So your weak attempts to be cool/funny by posting dictionary references and whatnot have failed. I know you were all probably too stupid to comprehend that, but I had to get it off my chest.

In conclusion: Please actually contribute something to the topic instead of trying to be funny and failing. Better yet, if you don't know what the **** you're talking about, don't post! What a concept!

Shut up Noob. LOL

goldenjinzo30
01-03-2008, 03:30 PM
Shut up Noob. LOL

Sarcasm? I hope it is

KingOfKings
01-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Sarcasm? I hope it is

Yeah..I'm J/p Obv..

goldenjinzo30
01-03-2008, 03:45 PM
lol who says "noob" anymore? :p

iBlaze
01-03-2008, 03:49 PM
Oh no, not another one of these threads.

When it comes to Yugioh, there is no such thing as a "pro" person.

haloplyer01
01-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Have you ever wondered what makes someone a pro duelist? Is it their ability to cheat in any situation, or how about their incredible deck-building skills? Their strategies? I'm curious to see what Pojo thinks of the "Pros".A pro in this game is someone who is well known by its players and who can consistently win at highly competitive events. Also making meta defining decks helps too

KingOfKings
01-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Shuffling your hand really fast makes you a pro. No lies.

Oh and when you look at your grave for 10 minutes and ask Cih is mad pro.

Aj learned all this from me. LOL...

hjkllkjh
01-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Money + Luck

Very basic

Duel-God
01-04-2008, 01:48 PM
A pro in this game is someone who is well known by its players and who can consistently win at highly competitive events. Also making meta defining decks helps too


That and gettin paid.

Killer_Nacho
01-04-2008, 01:54 PM
Pro = Professional= Payed to Play.

Technically, there are no Pros in yu-gi-oh!, the prize support is too crappy for that.

But most people earn a "Pro" status in this game for multiple SJC Top 16 Appearances/Wins. What makes them special? Most of them are just great players, although some of them are sure cheaters. It really depends on the player.

KingOfKings
01-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Who ever says prize support is terrible....

ASk fili Luna. He has atleast made 12k in Yugioh.

Emon... Is a true hussler and he made 2x what fili made just in trading.

I would say emon has made way over 15k...

John jenson has to have made around 10k also.

Many other players have made a lot too.

Labounty has made atleast 8k...

Who else????

Yes, they make a lot of money, and who ever says no is an idiot.

A lot of big teams make a lot of money


Imagine how much ODyssey made when they won like every sjc and side event back in the day when cyber stein went for over 5k????

I think i just won this thread... Thanks.

Shadow01192
01-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Money. . .If you dont have money to travel your not getting to compete much And your not getting paid I believe Encarta Defines a Professional as ":engaged in an occupation as a paid job rather than as a hobby." Have fun. "Pros" lol

jinzo01105
01-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Im sorry i didnt really read the whole thread,but there is no such thing as a pro.A pro is a person that people recognize easily.If you go to a jump and you recognize somebody that has maid t16 before and you know who they are and obv you see other people talking about him then that automaticly makes him a pro in your eyes.But there is no such thing as a pro only good players.Its true other players might be better then others and others might know how to play a hand better then others but at the end if you both make the same move then it doesnt mean it makes you any better.If anybody was to netdeck fili lunas sjc deck from california and you were to open with the same hand maybe fili would play it better but its not becuase hes a "pro" its only becuase everybody has different play styles.So there is no such thing as a pro.Only better players then others.

xSvDGen
01-04-2008, 06:19 PM
edited..........

Duel-God
01-05-2008, 09:05 PM
Who ever says prize support is terrible....

ASk fili Luna. He has atleast made 12k in Yugioh.

Emon... Is a true hussler and he made 2x what fili made just in trading.

I would say emon has made way over 15k...

John jenson has to have made around 10k also.

Many other players have made a lot too.

Labounty has made atleast 8k...

Who else????

Yes, they make a lot of money, and who ever says no is an idiot.

A lot of big teams make a lot of money


Imagine how much ODyssey made when they won like every sjc and side event back in the day when cyber stein went for over 5k????

I think i just won this thread... Thanks.


We say prize support is terrible because you mostly get crap. So haha I just stole your win for this thread.

The_Mirage_Knight
01-05-2008, 10:25 PM
You know your pro when you can duel by only using one finger to indicate anything to your opponent. And when you jack 3 ddraws.

But seriously there are no YGO pros.

Spells
01-05-2008, 10:35 PM
ok people i have 3 things to say.
1 there are no yugioh pros because of.
a. they do not get paid millions.
b. they cant win every game.
c. they are not world champions 3 times in a row.

2.There are great players because of.
a.they topdeck well.
b.they cheat like some of the top 8 SJC champs.
c.they use modified decks.

3.There are no Yu-Gi-Oh Pros no matter what depressed teenager tells you. this is borrowed so u get the point.

The_Mirage_Knight
01-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Shinobi the exact quote is "there are now ygo pros despite what depressed teenagers on DGZ tell you. But still lol. And stacking ftw!!!! Just like fili luna

Hell Kaiser Chris
01-06-2008, 02:48 PM
Don't you get hundreds of dollars worth in electronics if you win a SJC? Seems pro enough for me.

inthepants
01-06-2008, 02:55 PM
i say the only way to be come pro at this game like wining a jump u need to
1# out stack fill and thos guys
2# u need to cheat and not get caught
3# and have a ccv and a sarco
=) thats waht makes ur pro at this game =)

The Anarchy45
01-06-2008, 03:02 PM
ok people i have 3 things to say.
1 there are no yugioh pros because of.
a. they do not get paid millions.
b. they cant win every game.
c. they are not world champions 3 times in a row.

2.There are great players because of.
a.they topdeck well.
b.they cheat like some of the top 8 SJC champs.
c.they use modified decks.

3.There are no Yu-Gi-Oh Pros no matter what depressed teenager tells you. this is borrowed so u get the point.


enough said.....

Rarehunter22
01-06-2008, 03:07 PM
There is no PRO in yugioh, because no one gets paid to play

end thread

Duel-God
01-06-2008, 09:07 PM
I got paid to play one time. Parents needed to to put up one of my cards to get all their kids stuff back so they made an offer and I beat the grown man forcin kids to play the ante rule. SO when I say I'm pro I mean it.

Xing*
01-06-2008, 09:32 PM
Just because someone tops SJC many times doesn't mean he stacks...

hjkllkjh
01-06-2008, 09:35 PM
Just because someone tops SJC many times doesn't mean he stacks...

It does mean he stacks.

Xing*
01-06-2008, 10:42 PM
It does mean he stacks.

I would like to see proof. I know a lot of good players and I can bet my entire deck that they play with honesty. You need to see how skillfully they play their cards before accusing them.

Killer_Nacho
01-07-2008, 06:18 AM
Who ever says prize support is terrible....

ASk fili Luna. He has atleast made 12k in Yugioh.

Emon... Is a true hussler and he made 2x what fili made just in trading.

I would say emon has made way over 15k...

John jenson has to have made around 10k also.

Many other players have made a lot too.

Labounty has made atleast 8k...

Who else????

Yes, they make a lot of money, and who ever says no is an idiot.

A lot of big teams make a lot of money


Imagine how much ODyssey made when they won like every sjc and side event back in the day when cyber stein went for over 5k????

I think i just won this thread... Thanks.

Lol?

You can make money by selling/trading YGO, obv, I wasn't saying anything about that.

But winning an event won't get you more then 1k in prizes, while most other TCGs offer alot more. Take a look at the other UDE card game, VS System, where there are 10k Tournaments. Furthermore, YGO has alot of luck involved. That's why there are only a few multiple- SJC chapions. No one makes enough money by just playing YGO to go professional on it.

Hollistar
01-07-2008, 09:23 AM
A Canadian!

BryanGibbons
01-07-2008, 01:25 PM
I sponsor a duelist to travel to different locals, regionals, and Shonen Jumps to bring back prizes and good trades etc for me and my store.

He gets paid to play. He's a good player. = A Pro.


-No cheating, depressed teens, fame, or ownership of a Crush Card Virus involved whatsoever.

The cards are worth a lot of money. The prizes are worth a lot of money. So there are Pro players. Try not to get mad about because you aren't Pro. If everyone was Pro, it wouldn't mean anything.

the_skdster
01-07-2008, 02:09 PM
What makes someone a pro is when he/she can pull off various OTK's consistently and Top4 on a regular basis by doing so. :D
A Canadian!
Oh, and that too. :cool:

` E X P L O D E
01-07-2008, 02:10 PM
I am a pro.

enjoyonionrings
01-07-2008, 03:12 PM
I sponsor a duelist to travel to different locals, regionals, and Shonen Jumps to bring back prizes and good trades etc for me and my store.

He gets paid to play. He's a good player. = A Pro.


-No cheating, depressed teens, fame, or ownership of a Crush Card Virus involved whatsoever.

The cards are worth a lot of money. The prizes are worth a lot of money. So there are Pro players. Try not to get mad about because you aren't Pro. If everyone was Pro, it wouldn't mean anything.

Wrong. It just means you sponsor him to do so. Does he make a living off of it? Can he at least attempt to make a living solely off of this game? No. Does he even have a chance of taking back anywhere from $10,000 to $40,000 for winning one of the events? No. Is he a "pro"? No. Are there "pro players" in this game? No.

Reality check. Lock this thread.