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sunny99
08-18-2007, 06:00 AM
This is the team i'm using for the battle frontier...

Gyarados - Lv.100
HP: 336 ........................... Attack: 335
Defense: 220 .................... Sp. Attack: 161
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 201

- Hidden Power
- Hydro Pump
- Hyper Beam
- Dragon Dance

Dragonite - Lv.100
HP: 330 ........................... Attack: 305
Defense: 225 .................... Sp. Attack: 282
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 224

- Surf
- Outrage
- Thunderbolt
- Blizzard

Charizard - Lv.100
HP: 330 ........................... Attack: 305
Defense: 225 .................... Sp. Attack: 282
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 224

- Steel Wing
- Fly
- Fire Blast
- Blast Burn


... i allready know that this team has a couple of problems... i would like people to make comments about it and also tell me what i should change in this team to make it more better... plz don't tell me to change another attack to earthquake because i don't have any more TMs and i plan to change blast burn to rock slide as well..

reapsoul964
08-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Natures? EV Spreads?

Gyarados needs Earthquake. Sorry. What's the Hidden Power? Do you know, or is it just a filler move on it? HP: Flying, Ghost, or Rock would suit Gyarados best.

Outrage is okay here on your Dragonite, but you NEED Ice Beam over Blizzard.

Charizard's moveset is pretty... newbie. I don't really know what to suggest... if you want to go physical, go Overheat, Steel Wing, Aerial Ace, and Earthquake(sorry!).

marioware2
08-27-2007, 09:28 PM
This is the team i'm using for the battle frontier...

Gyarados - Lv.100
HP: 336 ........................... Attack: 335
Defense: 220 .................... Sp. Attack: 161
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 201

- Hidden Power
- Hydro Pump
- Hyper Beam
- Dragon Dance

Dragonite - Lv.100
HP: 330 ........................... Attack: 305
Defense: 225 .................... Sp. Attack: 282
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 224

- Surf
- Outrage
- Thunderbolt
- Blizzard

Charizard - Lv.100
HP: 330 ........................... Attack: 305
Defense: 225 .................... Sp. Attack: 282
Sp. Defense: 218................ Speed: 224

- Steel Wing
- Fly
- Fire Blast
- Blast Burn


... i allready know that this team has a couple of problems... i would like people to make comments about it and also tell me what i should change in this team to make it more better... plz don't tell me to change another attack to earthquake because i don't have any more TMs and i plan to change blast burn to rock slide as well..



ok. you want to know how to fix the team?

heres how.

GYARADOS- if you use dragon dance/hyper beam, you will lose a turn. if hyper beam doesnt work, if gives them a free turn. if you cant get ur hands on another earthquake, go with this:
SURF over hydro pump
DRAGON DANCE
ICE BEAM usually helps, i mean look at how many things its super-effective against!
HIDDEN POWER if its rock or ground. if its any other attack type move then it will work, but those two are the best.

if you cant get a good HP, then u dont want dragon dance. go for the special sweeper with:
SURF
ICE BEAM
THUNDERBOLT
FLAMETHROWER
all obtainable. the other gyarados is highly better, but if this is the best you can do, then go for it.


DRAGONITE: blizzard misses too much. outrage is fine, but give it a Persim berry to lose the confuse. if you have dragon claw, replace outrage. since you dont have earthquake, this would be the good set for Dragonite:
ICE BEAM over blizzard
THUNDERBOLT
FLAMETHROWER ice beam mainly covers what surf does, and flamethrower too, but flamethrower covers ice types, which can be very helpful.
DRAGON CLAW/OUTRAGE if you cant get the claw, use the rage.


finally.......

CHARIZARD: again, needs EQ. but since you cant get that, there's really only one way to use it. that would be a physical sweeper. still keep a firetype move on there, but use the moveset of:
FLAMETHROWER over fire blast
STEEL WING/BRICK BREAK good against Zard's main weakness; rock.

have you tried out HP on charizard? if you use it and its highpowered ground or rock, get that. if not, then get rock slide.
HIDDEN POWER/ROCK SLIDE

aerial ace isnt that great. if would only take care of fighting, and that cant do all that much to you, really. fly is even worse cuz it takes up two turns. if you absolutely must use a flying type move, take aerial ace, but if you dont need it, then i suggest you use one of these:

SEISMIC TOSS always deals 100 damage. good against low-HP pkmn.

SLASH crits are nice. and a good normal type move is nice too.

DIG if your desperate for a good move against electric/rock, then grab this. it isnt near as good as EQ, but it will do. if you choose this, then lose BRICK
BREAK/STEEL WING for one of the other moves on this list. also, if you have a good HP ground, you dont need either of those.

STRENGTH/BODY SLAM/MEGA KICK if you want a high powered normal move. i would recommend slash bc of the crits, but its up to you.

aight. thats a lot of info. i dont know if this helps, but it certainly has given ME some ideas. :)

Pokemaniac Jo Jo Gun
09-29-2007, 01:09 PM
Argh! :D Gyarados! Charizard! Awsome! Well, personally, I've never had a really good Gyarados moveset before, so I just stick with

Gyarados: @Lum Berry
Nature: Jolly, EV's: Spd, Atk
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Body Slam
Hidden Power, Flying (assuming you have the patience for that)

And Charizard, Hm, I like this one:

Charizard: @ Salac Berry
Nature: Modest, EV's: Spd, Sp. Atk
Endure (Use Salac Berry for a boost, and blaze will make Fire damage jacked up)
Seismic Toss (Eh... randomness; HP: Special may be better)
Dragon Claw or Outrage (which ever floats your boat)
Flamethrower (methinks t'is be a double battle team, so Heat Wave's damage gets split, but go Heat Wave for single battles, IMO)

I always thought Charizard had better Sp Atk potential than Attack, so I just use that combo to incinerate anything in my way, but this is just my opinion, so don't worry about it, 'kay? ;)