View Full Version : Sasuke Analysis of incompetence vs. No.2 rookie
hafesie
08-08-2007, 03:18 AM
Psst...I like adding letters or changing the name of my cards....only if I have spares, of course.
Which one do you think is better? I personally prefer rookie as it can be used late game as well as Early under some circumstances, unlike AoC.
Rookie+Temari
means they basically have to block, and if they get injured, they discard a card.
Rookie+Naruto SSA
Basically a good way to make your opponent's ninja injure.
AoC+Temari
Gives an early team of 6.
AoC+Naruto SSA
Nice, solid early team with a nice effect in case Sasuke gets injured.
It is worth noting that AoC can be avoided by sticking Konohamaru in a team as back ninja...even as head ninja sometimes if it is injured. No.1 Rookie can only be avoided by having less than 2 teams, which is usually a bad thing cos the other teams can just pass through.
Skater_Strike
08-08-2007, 07:41 AM
Analysis is the best Sasuke, hands down. Temari is worthless now that Ino is ran in threes.
Choji owns all the Sasukes so it really doesn't matter.
just to let u know not all decks run 3 inos
Skater_Strike
08-08-2007, 11:31 AM
just to let u know not all decks run 3 inos
If they want to lose, that's their problem.
nogard
08-08-2007, 06:19 PM
just to let u guys know that rookie is the best sasuke now
Skater_Strike
08-08-2007, 06:26 PM
LOL! Sure, You play your Rookie, I'll play Choji, let's see who wins.
nogard
08-08-2007, 06:34 PM
i pay shika now wat
Skater_Strike
08-08-2007, 06:50 PM
i pay shika now wat
I growth Choji and play Shika.
nogard
08-08-2007, 07:03 PM
thats fine ill block that
hafesie
08-09-2007, 04:42 AM
I use auto-win
Jutsu 1 fire
gain 9 battle rewards.
Eh eh eh eh.
And which Choji would that be?
Don't people use string control Jutsu to switch temari to the back? If you lose, the team doesn't have a head ninja, does it? So therefore, you lose nothing.
Ino states that they an only be SENT out to battle as head. They can still be effected by cards (i.e. Substitution Jutsu) to replace head with back, etc.
psst...what does growthing a card do (I actually know how platoons and everything else...never got round to growth).
I still stand by my rookies. Which choji are you guys referring to?
Sabaku-no-gaara-
08-09-2007, 09:10 AM
they are reffering to the new ER formation choji. IMO i think AOC is sbetter to run bet hey thats me i used to run rookie b4 AOC and i still won tournies so its just a matter of preference and not all decks run 3 ino i would know seeings as i only run 2 in my decks{same goes for my friends} and we still end up winning tournies
Rasengan86
08-09-2007, 11:58 AM
Sasuke (aoc) is the king of 0 drops. He beats all 0 drops. Next comes ino, then Naruto (cop), then Chouji (f) er, then Sasuke (no.1r). Tht's how i see it.
Sasuke (aoc)>Sasuke (no.1r)
Skater_Strike
08-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Sasuke (aoc) is the king of 0 drops. He beats all 0 drops. Next comes ino, then Naruto (cop), then Chouji (f) er, then Sasuke (no.1r). Tht's how i see it.
Sasuke (aoc)>Sasuke (no.1r)
Naruto CoP was th best untill that whore Ino came along.
visserac88
08-09-2007, 03:40 PM
I play nine tailed chakra, and I figured if you feel like dropping 6 cards from the top of your deck for COP you obviously have a bad hand and jutsus. Also your gonna have a good chance of ditching your precious Ino's. COP is more of a bluff then anything.
Iv'e never played a game that had Ino controling more than 2 rounds. She seems to do nothing late game because picking between 3 jonins and a genin or 2 wont control a beefed team.
I play Avenger, Power of the Curse Mark, and RFTLA. Avenger can hold of a team for a bit but after being growthed he does pretty well. AOC sucks late game and he can't do anything against my turn 1 kakashi, might guy, and itachi (not that much of you can agree to that).
Skater_Strike
08-09-2007, 05:18 PM
I play nine tailed chakra, and I figured if you feel like dropping 6 cards from the top of your deck for COP you obviously have a bad hand and jutsus. Also your gonna have a good chance of ditching your precious Ino's. COP is more of a bluff then anything.
Iv'e never played a game that had Ino controling more than 2 rounds. She seems to do nothing late game because picking between 3 jonins and a genin or 2 wont control a beefed team.
I play Avenger, Power of the Curse Mark, and RFTLA. Avenger can hold of a team for a bit but after being growthed he does pretty well. AOC sucks late game and he can't do anything against my turn 1 kakashi, might guy, and itachi (not that much of you can agree to that).
CoP was good because if you you play CoP on turn zero, and then played Temari on turn 1. Who'd going to block knowing if you pump him you can CV their ninja and be up two ninjas.
visserac88
08-09-2007, 06:07 PM
CoP was good because if you you play CoP on turn zero, and then played Temari on turn 1. Who'd going to block knowing if you pump him you can CV their ninja and be up two ninjas.
lol wow...im not big on wind, what temari is this?
hafesie
08-10-2007, 01:07 AM
The one which makes your opponent discard a card when this ninja's team injures a ninja on the other team.
Please note that sasuke No.1 Rookie can be used late game tactically and early game strategically as well as the normal stuff.
Say you needed 2 battle rewards and if you didn't get them you lost (deck out). You have 2 teams of 5 and your opponent has 2 teams of 999999999. In this situation, would you prefer AoC, Choji or No.1 Rookie?
Emi is what I would do, but you probably used emi already.
If you sent AoC, you lose, cos...work out the maths. If you have no1 rookie though, you FORCE them to block it, and then one of your '5' teams have to go through, getting 2 rewards, and winning.
Choji doesn't help much either, nor does anything else really.
BTW....How does growth work?
Skater_Strike
08-10-2007, 03:06 AM
lol wow...im not big on wind, what temari is this?
Temari Analyical Mind, basicaly a 0/3 turn one. with a injured CoP is 9 team power on turn one. But of course, Ino makes Temari cry.
The one which makes your opponent discard a card when this ninja's team injures a ninja on the other team.
Please note that sasuke No.1 Rookie can be used late game tactically and early game strategically as well as the normal stuff.
Say you needed 2 battle rewards and if you didn't get them you lost (deck out). You have 2 teams of 5 and your opponent has 2 teams of 999999999. In this situation, would you prefer AoC, Choji or No.1 Rookie?
Emi is what I would do, but you probably used emi already.
If you sent AoC, you lose, cos...work out the maths. If you have no1 rookie though, you FORCE them to block it, and then one of your '5' teams have to go through, getting 2 rewards, and winning.
Choji doesn't help much either, nor does anything else really.
BTW....How does growth work?
If you go techy and I go power early game, I also win. Why do you think people play Analyical Mind over Violent Temper?
You can't growth a ninja the turn it was put into play.
You growth a ninja my playing a ninja with growth on a ninja of the same name, the ninja that got growth goes to the charka area. You place a growth coin that means +1/+1.
I can growth Sasuke AoC into Sasuke Reason for the LA and it'd be a 5/1 on turn 1/2.
hafesie
08-10-2007, 03:10 AM
Wait...so does the one WITH growth go to chakra or the one without?
If I had naruto vanilla and played a naruto with growth, which one goes to chakra and which one gets +1+1?
No.1 Rookie is tactical and hand advantage. noo hand=no power.
nogard
08-10-2007, 03:32 AM
Wait...so does the one WITH growth go to chakra or the one without?
If I had naruto vanilla and played a naruto with growth, which one goes to chakra and which one gets +1+1?
No.1 Rookie is tactical and hand advantage. noo hand=no power.
finnaly someone who belives me that no.1 rookie is good
the one in your hand has to have growth in order to use growth so if you do that then the one from your hand gets the coin
and to skate if you dont belive me im fine with that if i played you in real life and you used aoc and i used rookie i would own you cause ive played numerous people with aoc and owned all of then cause vs. shika aoc doesnt have an effect but guess what rookie got his effect all ready the game isnt all early game power you know. your probibly(sp) one of those people who net deck and try to buy all of the good cards or even worse a yugi player
Skater_Strike
08-10-2007, 02:47 PM
finnaly someone who belives me that no.1 rookie is good
the one in your hand has to have growth in order to use growth so if you do that then the one from your hand gets the coin
and to skate if you dont belive me im fine with that if i played you in real life and you used aoc and i used rookie i would own you cause ive played numerous people with aoc and owned all of then cause vs. shika aoc doesnt have an effect but guess what rookie got his effect all ready the game isnt all early game power you know. your probibly(sp) one of those people who net deck and try to buy all of the good cards or even worse a yugi player
Kay *******, why the hell would I netdeck when the deck costs around 200 dollars? No thanks. And you *******, I don't even play AoC. My Choji owns all your Sasuke.
nogard
08-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Kay *******, why the hell would I netdeck when the deck costs around 200 dollars? No thanks. And you *******, I don't even play AoC. My Choji owns all your Sasuke.
answer me this one question do your chojis help you late game
i dont think so as rookie in a team of 3rd and the platoon means a team of 11 that you allways have to block and ill be taking back all of your brs
hafesie
08-10-2007, 08:27 PM
Nogard...I started the thread and said No.1 rookie was better...so of course I agree with you :)
Rookie can also be used as "Bait". If your opponent only had 2 teams and you had 3, with one of them sasuke 1 rookie, then you can use that one as bait for your other team(s) to go through.
Unlike Choji, AoC, CoP, Ino Formation, etc.
Shika can to a certain extent with mental, but....
Even without a puppet platton you can get Asuma+Kurenai for 11 and stick sasuke in.
So late game, sasuke is a lure/bait or can be teamed with puppet platoon, Asuma+kurenai, Third Hokage for healing, and lots of other stuff. Early on, for early hand advantage, also for bait and for healing with Ichiraku noodle shop, after the battle, etc.
Unlike AoC or Choji.
Skater_Strike
08-10-2007, 08:45 PM
Nogard...I started the thread and said No.1 rookie was better...so of course I agree with you :)
Rookie can also be used as "Bait". If your opponent only had 2 teams and you had 3, with one of them sasuke 1 rookie, then you can use that one as bait for your other team(s) to go through.
Unlike Choji, AoC, CoP, Ino Formation, etc.
Shika can to a certain extent with mental, but....
Even without a puppet platton you can get Asuma+Kurenai for 11 and stick sasuke in.
So late game, sasuke is a lure/bait or can be teamed with puppet platoon, Asuma+kurenai, Third Hokage for healing, and lots of other stuff. Early on, for early hand advantage, also for bait and for healing with Ichiraku noodle shop, after the battle, etc.
Unlike AoC or Choji.
Early game Ninjas aren't mean't to dominate LATE game.
richizzle
08-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Power owns everything in naruto ( except Ino lol).
hafesie
08-10-2007, 10:46 PM
And hand control is power.
Skater: But N.1 Rookie DOES help late game, making it a late game ninja as well. Unlike AoC or Choji.
Skater_Strike
08-10-2007, 11:15 PM
And hand control is power.
Skater: But N.1 Rookie DOES help late game, making it a late game ninja as well. Unlike AoC or Choji.
Choji is good late game as long as you have Shikamaru, which I almost always have.
Hand Control is the one thing in Naruto that you can't make a sucessful deck around.
Inherit thanks you
AoUR hugs you
One Morning/Sakura's Decision kisses you good night
ShadowJFX
08-11-2007, 12:15 AM
Wow that was really freaky in that last post, but aoc is so freakin awesome, you draw it first turn, its a damn, 4/0 I PROMISE though you probably already know that, plus with an ino in the group, omg, SENSORY OVERLOAD....
-JFX
Skater_Strike
08-11-2007, 01:59 AM
Wow that was really freaky in that last post, but aoc is so freakin awesome, you draw it first turn, its a damn, 4/0 I PROMISE though you probably already know that, plus with an ino in the group, omg, SENSORY OVERLOAD....
-JFX
**** AND GTFO MY THREAD NUBCAKE.
=P
Editness: They block S T F U, lol.
nogard
08-11-2007, 03:11 AM
**** AND GTFO MY THREAD NUBCAKE.
=P
Editness: They block S T F U, lol.
um i dont think this is your thread foo
alot of early drops can be used late game but not choji and aoc while rookie dosu shika sakura and ino to some extent and some others can be late game threats
Skater_Strike
08-11-2007, 03:28 AM
um i dont think this is your thread foo
alot of early drops can be used late game but not choji and aoc while rookie dosu shika sakura and ino to some extent and some others can be late game threats
I bought this thread off of Ebay, j00.
Sakura D? That card is awful now.
Choji CAN BE A LATE GAME CARD, Shikamaru makes him own all game.
nogard
08-11-2007, 04:04 AM
I bought this thread off of Ebay, j00.
Sakura D? That card is awful now.
Choji CAN BE A LATE GAME CARD, Shikamaru makes him own all game.
wow can you read i never said sakura D but anyway in the right deck its good a 3 support w/ 3 mental
so late game your going to have a max team of 9 considering both shika and choji were growthed agaist my team of 11 that you have to block i think ill win
Skater_Strike
08-11-2007, 04:17 AM
wow can you read i never said sakura D but anyway in the right deck its good a 3 support w/ 3 mental
so late game your going to have a max team of 9 considering both shika and choji were growthed agaist my team of 11 that you have to block i think ill win
Why the hell do you think I have QUESTION MARK BESIDE IT?
Use Choji's effect that'll bring tyou down 2 or 4 points.
ShadowJFX
08-11-2007, 04:21 PM
yea as long as you got shika and choji, you can just pwn all day, lol have a third hokage, and you can continue to heal the choji.
Skater_Strike
08-11-2007, 04:25 PM
yea as long as you got shika and choji, you can just pwn all day, lol have a third hokage, and you can continue to heal the choji.
*Stares at Hinata*
ShadowJFX
08-11-2007, 10:29 PM
yea, i suppose that would work too :P
-JFX
hafesie
08-11-2007, 11:06 PM
Don't you see.....No.1 rookie is still better.
How can Choji be used well late game? Assuming you could growth it, and even if you can, isn't a third hokage/jirya/naruto SSA with string control for Something else better?
visserac88
08-12-2007, 12:46 AM
wow dudes.
hafesie
08-12-2007, 01:55 AM
...
Now it is a no.1 rookie vs choji formation.
Katsuragi Keima
08-13-2007, 01:13 AM
This thread is pointless.
No.1 Rookie Sasuke was good back in Coils if you didn't have any AoC. He's useless now. He might pop up every now and then...Only to get eaten by a CoP...or an AoC.
AoC is one of the best 0 drops in the game as far as offense goes. Who cares if he sucks late game? Ever heard of chumping?
Choji devours AoC for breakfast, and in some cases, CoP too. Choji is a beast. he is not to be underestimated.
Ino is ran in every deck now, and if you don't run her, you will lose. Period. She controls games up until about turn 5-6.
CoP can control early-mid game if you mess with your opponent's mind. "Oh...how much power is your team? Mine is at 5." "Oh...I'm at 4, plus I can pump if I want." "Okay, I pass...Your turn." <-Win.
You guys forgot an important 0 drop in all of this...IQ Shika maybe? Everyone loved this guy before ER Formation showed up. I still see him ran at tourneys, but not as much as he used to. Some people refuse to modernize >.>
Another 0 drop seeing play is schizophrenic Sakura. She pwns.
hafesie
08-13-2007, 04:22 AM
I don't have any mental players at my tourney so it is pointless basically...
Rookie pwns more than anything. THINK!!!
INO DOES NOT pwn my deck...or any other deck...it is only for 1 turn.
choji is fat....and he is not BAD, but wouldn't you rather have 4th in the team other than choji? no.1 rookie has great combos with him, unlike choji.
MOst people have an iq of more than just shikamaru.... about 90 points more. CoP is dum. Unless you run "A kind Teacher" (not that anyone other than me does)
Chumping is for stuff like konohamaru...absolute useless stuff that gives an advantage early on but sucks later. AoC is the same...but rookie is early AND late. So why go for chumping when you have a better option?
Rookie is a beast. Beast is a rookie. End of story...for 1 hr.
Arcane_Fox
08-13-2007, 09:31 AM
Okay, AoC is better than #1 Rookie, Why?
Turn 0: I drop AoC you drop Rookie, mines stronger than urs I swing, you give me 1 BR, im in the lead.
Turn 1: You Drop Temari, I drop Ino, Temari has to be sent out as a head ninja, so either you remove temari from the team, or you have a team of 0, either way, AoC Beats it
Etc. Etc...
visserac88
08-13-2007, 01:37 PM
This thread is pointless.
No.1 Rookie Sasuke was good back in Coils if you didn't have any AoC. He's useless now. He might pop up every now and then...Only to get eaten by a CoP...or an AoC.
AoC is one of the best 0 drops in the game as far as offense goes. Who cares if he sucks late game? Ever heard of chumping?
Choji devours AoC for breakfast, and in some cases, CoP too. Choji is a beast. he is not to be underestimated.
Ino is ran in every deck now, and if you don't run her, you will lose. Period. She controls games up until about turn 5-6.
CoP can control early-mid game if you mess with your opponent's mind. "Oh...how much power is your team? Mine is at 5." "Oh...I'm at 4, plus I can pump if I want." "Okay, I pass...Your turn." <-Win.
You guys forgot an important 0 drop in all of this...IQ Shika maybe? Everyone loved this guy before ER Formation showed up. I still see him ran at tourneys, but not as much as he used to. Some people refuse to modernize >.>
Another 0 drop seeing play is schizophrenic Sakura. She pwns.
I still play IQ Shika but the formations last text is really good. I still don't agree with #1 rookie or AOC being the best but when a new SR Sasuke comes out then this never ending thread will be over.
Katsuragi Keima
08-13-2007, 01:54 PM
I still play IQ Shika but the formations last text is really good. I still don't agree with #1 rookie or AOC being the best but when a new SR Sasuke comes out then this never ending thread will be over.
An SR Sasuke comes next set, but he's a 3 drop.
So...are all you No.1 Rookie lovers telling me that you want to run a 0 drop for late game? 0 drops are meant to help you early, and even if this Sasuke can help you late game, why would you team that crap with an ES over, say, Kurenai or Inoichi?
If you think CoP is dumb you must not be very good at this game. You don't need A Kind Teacher with him, even though it is a good strategy. CoP is a monstrous 0 drop. End of discussion regarding him.
Are you telling me...you don't like Choji...because he's fat? Now you really fail.
Ino only works for 1 turn? Are you serious? Seriously? Ino kills ANY deck. ANY. That's it. If you don't agree, why don't you go to a tourney and get murdered by one?
Skater_Strike
08-13-2007, 03:16 PM
An SR Sasuke comes next set, but he's a 3 drop.
So...are all you No.1 Rookie lovers telling me that you want to run a 0 drop for late game? 0 drops are meant to help you early, and even if this Sasuke can help you late game, why would you team that crap with an ES over, say, Kurenai or Inoichi?
If you think CoP is dumb you must not be very good at this game. You don't ned A Kind Teacher with him, even though it is a good strategy. CoP is a monstrous 0 drop. End of discussion regarding him.
Are you telling me...you don't like Choji...because he's fat? Now you really fail.
Ino only works for 1 turn? Are you serious? Seriously? Ino kills ANY deck. ANY. That's it. If you don't agree, why don't you go to a tourney and get murdered by one?
Assasin_Kirby is now my newest best friend.
Everyone that I said and he said it true.
I said the same thing about running a 0 Drop for late game. o.0
visserac88
08-14-2007, 12:58 AM
I kind of want to know more about the turn 3 sasuke...would ino be good against mental?
Katsuragi Keima
08-14-2007, 01:18 AM
I kind of want to know more about the turn 3 sasuke...would ino be good against mental?
Turn 3 Sasuke is more broken than Brokage.
Assasin_Kirby is now my newest best friend.
LOL! It's only true. People who think CoP sucks and No.1 Rookie is Godly should hang themselves with their own intestines.
visserac88
08-14-2007, 01:25 AM
Turn 3 Sasuke is more broken than Brokage.
LOL! It's only true. People who think CoP sucks and No.1 Rookie is Godly should hang themselves with their own intestines.
How ya know about him?
Katsuragi Keima
08-14-2007, 01:28 AM
How ya know about him?
I can...uhh...Read Japanese! Carddass is a breeze.
His (broken) effect states that he can negate any jutsu by discarding 1 card from his owner's hand.
He's a 5/1 0/0 Rogue Ninja/Male/Sharingan, No Leaf or Genin stats.
visserac88
08-14-2007, 01:33 AM
I can...uhh...Read Japanese! Carddass is a breeze.
His (broken) effect states that he can negate any jutsu by discarding 1 card from his owner's hand.
He's a 5/1 0/0 Rogue Ninja/Male/Sharingan, No Leaf or Genin stats.
If he had leaf then Id like it a little more
hafesie
08-14-2007, 05:59 AM
turn 3 5 combat.....
Rookie CAN be used late game, giving him an advantage. Not has to be used.
Ok you drop AoC I drop Rookie you attack You get 1 BR. I play temari and ATTACK! OMG I attacked how amazing! Then I either get 2 or a discard. OK you block and play ino WTF is the point? You don't block I MIGHT magically accidentally discard INO..what a shame. OK you get INO I let through for 2 and then get Naruto SSA......Bye Bye Sasuke AoC and Rookie...say hello Temaro and SSA...team of 0...Ino doesn't matter. Injure Naruto hey same thing happens another team of 5 injure Temari sure your dude injured next turn I swing Garra and pwn you all.
From the owners hand...imagine if you could take control of the ninja and play random crud jutsu.
visserac88
08-14-2007, 06:50 AM
turn 3 5 combat.....
Rookie CAN be used late game, giving him an advantage. Not has to be used.
Ok you drop AoC I drop Rookie you attack You get 1 BR. I play temari and ATTACK! OMG I attacked how amazing! Then I either get 2 or a discard. OK you block and play ino WTF is the point? You don't block I MIGHT magically accidentally discard INO..what a shame. OK you get INO I let through for 2 and then get Naruto SSA......Bye Bye Sasuke AoC and Rookie...say hello Temaro and SSA...team of 0...Ino doesn't matter. Injure Naruto hey same thing happens another team of 5 injure Temari sure your dude injured next turn I swing Garra and pwn you all.
From the owners hand...imagine if you could take control of the ninja and play random crud jutsu.
wow...cuz y'all know thats how every battle goes
hafesie
08-15-2007, 12:30 AM
Yes it is.
When the dude said I play temari he plays ino he forgot to let me attack....
Ino is lame. Just use Naruto SSA ino is useless.
Skater_Strike
08-15-2007, 01:40 PM
Yes it is.
When the dude said I play temari he plays ino he forgot to let me attack....
Ino is lame. Just use Naruto SSA ino is useless.
How does SSA make Ino uselss if I don't send her out like anyone with sense wouldn't.
visserac88
08-15-2007, 11:32 PM
the new mail promo naruto is far better then SSA.
hafesie
08-16-2007, 03:44 AM
Stupid Bandai doesn't support naruto In Aus....we can only use curse stuff!
SSA kills Ino. End of story.
visserac88
08-16-2007, 10:55 AM
Nobody attacks or defends with Ino
Katsuragi Keima
08-16-2007, 01:46 PM
Stupid Bandai doesn't support naruto In Aus....we can only use curse stuff!
SSA kills Ino. End of story.
SSA kills head ninjas. No one uses Ino as a back ninja, much less a head ninja. GG. I'll be the person demolishing your supporters and team power with Ino. I'll be the one killing your No.1's with "fat" Choji. I'll be the one scaring you into not attacking with CoP. You'll be the one teaming No.1 Rookie with an ES while I team Kakashi with Asuma/Shikamaru. GG. My Toad deck means GG once Naru/Bunta hits the field. Lets see your No.1 Rookie eat a Liquid Bullet.
Skater_Strike
08-16-2007, 02:30 PM
SSA kills head ninjas. No one uses Ino as a back ninja, much less a head ninja. GG. I'll be the person demolishing your supporters and team power with Ino. I'll be the one killing your No.1's with "fat" Choji. I'll be the one scaring you into not attacking with CoP. You'll be the one teaming No.1 Rookie with an ES while I team Kakashi with Asuma/Shikamaru. GG. My Toad deck means GG once Naru/Bunta hits the field. Lets see your No.1 Rookie eat a Liquid Bullet.
You play a Naruto/Gambuta LB deck?
That what to do that combo with Jirayia. -.-
hafesie
08-17-2007, 01:06 AM
OK sure play your choji I play SSA see what happens.
visserac88
08-17-2007, 01:35 AM
Choji while supported kicks the crap out of any Naruto. Thats the thing I hate the most.
Skater_Strike
08-17-2007, 02:13 AM
OK sure play your choji I play SSA see what happens.
I win, obviously.
Katsuragi Keima
08-17-2007, 02:23 AM
OK sure play your choji I play SSA see what happens.
You need to modernize, kid. =/
visserac88
08-17-2007, 04:54 AM
You need to modernize, kid. =/
:confused: modernize?? :confused:
hafesie
08-18-2007, 06:46 PM
it is a modern game.
SSA>choji, even with Shikamaru.
Katsuragi Keima
08-18-2007, 07:01 PM
it is a modern game.
SSA>choji, even with Shikamaru.
Well no s***, SSA is a damn 1 drop. -________- Choji kills all 0 drops with no hesitation.
hafesie
08-18-2007, 08:58 PM
Shikamaru may make it 0 drop, but attacking with SSA while your opponent HAS no shikamaru...
Even so, if you use Choji's effect it is 1-1. Next turn you attack with something crud and bash them up.
Skater_Strike
08-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Shikamaru may make it 0 drop, but attacking with SSA while your opponent HAS no shikamaru...
Even so, if you use Choji's effect it is 1-1. Next turn you attack with something crud and bash them up.
More than likey, your opponent is going to have Shikamaru if they play the 3 like most people do.
You can't compare Choji and SSA they are different drops, ninjas, and the effects are different.
Choji is more usefull in my opinon.
But I like SSA more than the new Naruto.
yasmin
08-18-2007, 09:14 PM
well heres some things for u to think about
shiki er as back with choji as head,ino as stand by ninja,hinata (er).
lets see u beat that after i kill alot of ur ninja's
and playing 3 shiki (F) (er) THATS A LIL OVER KILL.
Skater_Strike
08-18-2007, 09:21 PM
well heres some things for u to think about
shiki er as back with choji as head,ino as stand by ninja,hinata (er).
lets see u beat that after i kill alot of ur ninja's
and playing 3 shiki (F) (er) THATS A LIL OVER KILL.
No it isn't, you run three to insure that you get it on turn 1.
nogard
08-18-2007, 11:15 PM
Don't you see.....No.1 rookie is still better.
How can Choji be used well late game? Assuming you could growth it, and even if you can, isn't a third hokage/jirya/naruto SSA with string control for Something else better?
yes 3rd is way better. ill give u guys this choiji is good but hes not that good
This thread is pointless.
No.1 Rookie Sasuke was good back in Coils if you didn't have any AoC. He's useless now. He might pop up every now and then...Only to get eaten by a CoP...or an AoC.
AoC is one of the best 0 drops in the game as far as offense goes. Who cares if he sucks late game? Ever heard of chumping?
Choji devours AoC for breakfast, and in some cases, CoP too. Choji is a beast. he is not to be underestimated.
Ino is ran in every deck now, and if you don't run her, you will lose. Period. She controls games up until about turn 5-6.
CoP can control early-mid game if you mess with your opponent's mind. "Oh...how much power is your team? Mine is at 5." "Oh...I'm at 4, plus I can pump if I want." "Okay, I pass...Your turn." <-Win.
You guys forgot an important 0 drop in all of this...IQ Shika maybe? Everyone loved this guy before ER Formation showed up. I still see him ran at tourneys, but not as much as he used to. Some people refuse to modernize >.>
Another 0 drop seeing play is schizophrenic Sakura. She pwns.
1. yes it is cause rookie is way better
2. have you heard of shika that stops those effects
3. aoc doesnt get his effect if hes battling a shika
4. yes he does
5. she controls until 3 or 4
6. yes he does and sometimes late game too
7. no one will ever play that shika anymore
8. yea she does
Assasin_Kirby is now my newest best friend.
Everyone that I said and he said it true.
I said the same thing about running a 0 Drop for late game. o.0
go back to grade school and come see me when you can create a grammaticaly correct sentence, bizzzle
How does SSA make Ino uselss if I don't send her out like anyone with sense wouldn't.
if you keep her in a seperate team then rookie will make you block him
I win, obviously.
uh, no you dont especially if you think that choiji is a late game card
well heres some things for u to think about
shiki er as back with choji as head,ino as stand by ninja,hinata (er).
lets see u beat that after i kill alot of ur ninja's
and playing 3 shiki (F) (er) THATS A LIL OVER KILL.
um, lets see, my rookie with shika as a back will kill that team; oh and rookie will force you to block that team
Skater_Strike
08-19-2007, 12:06 AM
AoC is better, stop trying to defend something isn't true.
Pojo is offically the worse card game site, EVER.
nogard
08-19-2007, 01:05 AM
AoC is better, stop trying to defend something isn't true.
Pojo is offically the worse card game site, EVER.
aoc is only better on the 1st turn then i bring out shika and what do you do take 2 right
wtf are you doing on it then bizzle
visserac88
08-19-2007, 01:33 AM
aoc is only better on the 1st turn then i bring out shika and what do you do take 2 right
wtf are you doing on it then bizzle
....maybe he plays his shika behind his AOC...and it be one, if I'm understanding what your saying.
nogard
08-19-2007, 02:10 AM
....maybe he plays his shika behind his AOC...and it be one, if I'm understanding what your saying.
ok but if he does that both get damage and then i have advantage cause im playing another ninja
visserac88
08-19-2007, 02:30 AM
ok but if he does that both get damage and then i have advantage cause im playing another ninja
lol what if he plays another ninja first...it's all in who gets what and the coin toss. Ya never know unless you battle. if you put the cards on the table obviously #1 rookie has a better effect but in the first few rounds Id rather want AOC. If AOC is not backed up in the start, it just proves the game is gonna be one sided.
AOC in the starting and No.1 later, it all depends when you need it.
nogard
08-19-2007, 03:21 AM
lol what if he plays another ninja first...it's all in who gets what and the coin toss. Ya never know unless you battle. if you put the cards on the table obviously #1 rookie has a better effect but in the first few rounds Id rather want AOC. If AOC is not backed up in the start, it just proves the game is gonna be one sided.
AOC in the starting and No.1 later, it all depends when you need it.
how many games have you played without your opp. having a shika or ino early. Shika on aoc = 3, shika on rookie = 3 but guess what rookie got his effect allready
visserac88
08-19-2007, 03:39 AM
how many games have you played without your opp. having a shika or ino early. Shika on aoc = 3, shika on rookie = 3 but guess what rookie got his effect allready
without your opp? My gf, brother, and I all play diffrent decks so I never play without an opponent. I'm guessing opp is opponent. Even tho they both are not valid and both would get damaged. I still don't know why I'm defending all of this cuz i wouldn't play either of them.
nogard
08-19-2007, 03:49 AM
without your opp? My gf, brother, and I all play diffrent decks so I never play without an opponent. I'm guessing opp is opponent. Even tho they both are not valid and both would get damaged. I still don't know why I'm defending all of this cuz i wouldn't play either of them.
i said without your opp having a shika or ino in play early, but even you should know that now its better to have effects that activate before battle or when they are put in play. You do run shika and ino right
visserac88
08-19-2007, 03:59 AM
i said without your opp having a shika or ino in play early, but even you should know that now its better to have effects that activate before battle or when they are put in play. You do run shika and ino right
My gf plays both but I don't. The only thing you need to worry about my deck is itachi on turn one. Given that shika is still on the opponents field and my ninjas effects don't work I still win less than turn 5....most of the time.
nogard
08-19-2007, 04:21 AM
My gf plays both but I don't. The only thing you need to worry about my deck is itachi on turn one. Given that shika is still on the opponents field and my ninjas effects don't work I still win less than turn 5....most of the time.
i know that you know that itachis effect is negated when there is a sasuke on the field
just wondering do you have any es if so do u run them
visserac88
08-19-2007, 04:26 AM
I only know 2 ppl that have one each, and I myself still have none. It's kind of anoying but $50 on-line doesn't seem worth it. But, I need it bad.
Skater_Strike
08-19-2007, 04:58 AM
I'm here for trading. How the hell can you talk about my grammar?
Look up Bizzle for me.
You guys aren't doing this right. You don't go why IF I have this or IF you don't have that. You go by the card it's self.
visserac88
08-19-2007, 05:06 AM
I'm here for trading. How the hell can you talk about my grammar?
Look up Bizzle for me.
You guys aren't doing this right. You don't go why IF I have this or IF you don't have that. You go by the card it's self.
I know the if thing is lame thats why I was doing it back, to prove a point that it was lame.
lol Bizzle isnt a word
I'm to lazy to ship cards or anything at that
Skater_Strike
08-19-2007, 05:09 AM
I know the if thing is lame thats why I was doing it back, to prove a point that it was lame.
lol Bizzle isnt a word
I'm to lazy to ship cards or anything at that
Yeah, I have to FORCE myself to ship them. ><
visserac88
08-19-2007, 05:22 AM
Yeah, I have to FORCE myself to ship them. ><
Id have to ask the dude to wait a few weeks and remind me 2 times a week.
hafesie
08-20-2007, 01:14 AM
So....
Back on topic.
Rookie>AoC
Done.
Katsuragi Keima
08-20-2007, 01:16 AM
So....
Back on topic.
Rookie>AoC
Done.
How exactly does Rookie help you early game (like a 0 drop is supposed to do)?
nogard
08-20-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm here for trading. How the hell can you talk about my grammar?
Look up Bizzle for me.
You guys aren't doing this right. You don't go why IF I have this or IF you don't have that. You go by the card it's self.
If your here for trading then why are you on this thread. Look at you trying to put caps and puntuation where they belong. you dont even know correct sentence structure its not WHY IF I HAVE THIS its WHAT IF I HAVE THIS. Also about your last comment if you go by the card itself, then in your mind gamabunta is the best card ever.
Why dont you go look up bizzle you lazy sucka
I know the if thing is lame thats why I was doing it back, to prove a point that it was lame.
lol Bizzle isnt a word
I'm to lazy to ship cards or anything at that
what a lame way to prove a point
AzureKnight
08-20-2007, 01:22 AM
LOL! Sure, You play your Rookie, I'll play Choji, let's see who wins.
Forget both of them, I'd run Naruto COP against Choji
hafesie
08-20-2007, 01:27 AM
Lol that is so funny give 1 damage to CoP pop it dies bye bye.
CoP
Rookie
Temari (VIOLENT TEMPER!!!)
Pwnage team. Must block.
Katsuragi Keima
08-20-2007, 01:27 AM
Forget both of them, I'd run Naruto COP against Choji
Choji kills Naruto CoP...unless you feel like losing 4 cards from your deck on turn 0.
WTF!
Win Scythe > VT. Get with the meta please.
Also, in case you didn't notice, if you opponent DOESN'T block, you get BRs. Nice job on stalling your win. That team won't be awesome when you opponent makes Temari your head ninja with Ino. GG.
nogard
08-20-2007, 01:39 AM
Choji kills Naruto CoP...unless you feel like losing 4 cards from your deck on turn 0.
WTF!
Win Scythe > VT. Get with the meta please.
Also, in case you didn't notice, if you opponent DOESN'T block, you get BRs. Nice job on stalling your win. That team won't be awesome when you opponent makes Temari your head ninja with Ino. GG.
you know that there are many ways to get around ino
visserac88
08-20-2007, 01:50 AM
Choji kills Naruto CoP...unless you feel like losing 4 cards from your deck on turn 0.
WTF!
Win Scythe > VT. Get with the meta please.
Also, in case you didn't notice, if you opponent DOESN'T block, you get BRs. Nice job on stalling your win. That team won't be awesome when you opponent makes Temari your head ninja with Ino. GG.
Choji would die from naruto if he used his effect and if he wouldn't use the effect Cop would throw it in his face. Other then that it would depend on the next drops.
AzureKnight
08-20-2007, 01:58 AM
Choji kills Naruto CoP...unless you feel like losing 4 cards from your deck on turn 0.
WTF!
Win Scythe > VT. Get with the meta please.
Also, in case you didn't notice, if you opponent DOESN'T block, you get BRs. Nice job on stalling your win. That team won't be awesome when you opponent makes Temari your head ninja with Ino. GG.
If I remember right, Choji injures any ninja that automatically battles it. If I were to send out my uninjured Naruto against Choji and Choji injures it Naruto injured attack would be 3 making Naruto the stronger Ninja.
visserac88
08-20-2007, 02:01 AM
If I remember right, Choji injures any ninja that automatically battles it. If I were to send out my uninjured Naruto against Choji and Choji injures it Naruto injured attack would be 3 making Naruto the stronger Ninja.
yeah, Thats how it is
AzureKnight
08-20-2007, 02:03 AM
yeah, Thats how it is
didn't see your post. I had to explain myself while people were thinking I was randomly blurting out cards lol
hafesie
08-20-2007, 03:50 AM
If INO is used, simply dis Temari from the team.
I sent Shikamaru as head ninja, then made it back ninja, and got a discard.
Katsuragi Keima
08-20-2007, 12:15 PM
If I remember right, Choji injures any ninja that automatically battles it. If I were to send out my uninjured Naruto against Choji and Choji injures it Naruto injured attack would be 3 making Naruto the stronger Ninja.
That's not the strategy for killing a Naruto.
Lets say I send out my Choji and you block with your uninjured Naruto. All Narutos are 0/0 healthy, so your Naruto would take 1 damage from Choji's 2/0 (again, you can pump Naruto 2-3 times to avoid him getting injured...but that's not good on turn 0.) Next turn, my opponent sends out his now injured Naruto and I block with my Choji. Then, I declare Choji's effect and your Naruto would take 1 damage, killing him.
Please keep in mind that Choji's effect is OPTIONAL, and can be used whenever you see fit. GG.
visserac88
08-20-2007, 12:29 PM
That's not the strategy for killing a Naruto.
Lets say I send out my Choji and you block with your uninjured Naruto. All Narutos are 0/0 healthy, so your Naruto would take 1 damage from Choji's 2/0 (again, you can pump Naruto 2-3 times to avoid him getting injured...but that's not good on turn 0.) Next turn, my opponent sends out his now injured Naruto and I block with my Choji. Then, I declare Choji's effect and your Naruto would take 1 damage, killing him.
Please keep in mind that Choji's effect is OPTIONAL, and can be used whenever you see fit. GG.
wow dude just wow.
You really think that someone would just let COP get punk'd by choji knowing next turn he would die. First i don't think you would attack because you would have a chance loseing Choji. If you didn't use his effect and would have no chakra I would kill choji for sure. My COP never gets injured and stalls my apponent until COP gets Growthed by OP.
Please keep in mind that COP's effect is OPTIONAL, and can be used whenever you see fit.
Katsuragi Keima
08-20-2007, 12:42 PM
wow dude just wow.
You really think that someone would just let COP get punk'd by choji knowing next turn he would die. First i don't think you would attack because you would have a chance loseing Choji. If you didn't use his effect and would have no chakra I would kill choji for sure. My COP never gets injured and stalls my apponent until COP gets Growthed by OP.
Please keep in mind that COP's effect is OPTIONAL, and can be used whenever you see fit.
To beat Choji with CoP, you would need to pump him by at least 2. Losing 4 cards on turn 0 is risky IMO.
I would attack with Choji.
visserac88
08-20-2007, 12:57 PM
To beat Choji with CoP, you would need to pump him by at least 2. Losing 4 cards on turn 0 is risky IMO.
I would attack with Choji.
pumping in the start is far less worse then pumping late game. Late game is easyer to figure out what cards are still in your deck and COP would be far over dead by then. Both choji and duso kill naruto easy, but COP is diffrent. I would easly ditch 4-6 cards to get rid of them knowing they don't have valid.
and i wouldn't care for losing 4-6 cards starting game, thus killing choji.
AzureKnight
08-20-2007, 01:14 PM
To beat Choji with CoP, you would need to pump him by at least 2. Losing 4 cards on turn 0 is risky IMO.
I would attack with Choji.
I thought COP was made for pumping early game. I would even be using COP late game because of way stronger ninjas starting to appear. And getting rid of a few cards off the top early will let you know what kind of strategy you can set up later on in the game.
visserac88
08-20-2007, 01:23 PM
I thought COP was made for pumping early game. I would even be using COP late game because of way stronger ninjas starting to appear. And getting rid of a few cards off the top early will let you know what kind of strategy you can set up later on in the game.
during late game I would be useing OP over COP for sure but ditching cards in the start is far little risk. COP and AOC is a sweet start followed by some nice back-up.
Skater_Strike
08-20-2007, 04:01 PM
Let me grab that Jonin decklist with Rookie in it..OH WAIT! There wasn't one, my bad. :o
nogard
08-20-2007, 07:04 PM
Let me grab that Jonin decklist with Rookie in it..OH WAIT! There wasn't one, my bad. :o
where are the decklists.
visserac88
08-20-2007, 10:59 PM
decklists??
nogard
08-21-2007, 02:04 AM
that guy is dumb it was sannin mot jounin
the ones from nats
hafesie
08-22-2007, 03:49 AM
See...none.
Anyway....This is how I think it works...with ACTUAL REASON! wow! how amazing!
SSA>Ino
Who gives if SSA is head or back...effect works anyway.
Rookie>AoC
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war (AoC is brute power, Rookie has strategy)
9TC=CoP
Why add cards into your deck if you want to dump them? Sure you can put stuff on CoP and not 9TC but is the 6 card dump worth it?
OP=Late game card with low entrance cost
Who said early game ninja are not to be used late game?
Katsuragi Keima
08-22-2007, 11:13 AM
See...none.
Anyway....This is how I think it works...with ACTUAL REASON! wow! how amazing!
SSA>Ino
Who gives if SSA is head or back...effect works anyway.
Rookie>AoC
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war (AoC is brute power, Rookie has strategy)
9TC=CoP
Why add cards into your deck if you want to dump them? Sure you can put stuff on CoP and not 9TC but is the 6 card dump worth it?
OP=Late game card with low entrance cost
Who said early game ninja are not to be used late game?
NTC is garbage now. Not being able to include other ninjas in his team is a horrible downside. CoP is easily better than NTC because NTC is completely reliant on your hand, which sucks. He was good back in the Path/Coils days, but he won't see play anymore. Also, Choji kills NTC. CoP is better.
Skater_Strike
08-22-2007, 02:08 PM
See...none.
Anyway....This is how I think it works...with ACTUAL REASON! wow! how amazing!
SSA>Ino
Who gives if SSA is head or back...effect works anyway.
Rookie>AoC
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war (AoC is brute power, Rookie has strategy)
9TC=CoP
Why add cards into your deck if you want to dump them? Sure you can put stuff on CoP and not 9TC but is the 6 card dump worth it?
OP=Late game card with low entrance cost
Who said early game ninja are not to be used late game?
You are an idiot, HAHAHAA!
hafesie
08-23-2007, 01:37 AM
Reason?
Hey I can provide proper reason for my arguments, unlike you.
Having 6 cards in your hand requires strategy. OP is a low entrance cost ninja late game....and you said they are crud late game.
CoP can dump the most valuable items from your deck. If it was +1+0 PER CARD, it would be great. However, at +1+0 per 2 cards.....
I use 1 9TC and pwn lots of ppl....go commons. Revenge never cam out in AUS, not that it really matters. 9tc is pwnage. Losing cards isn't the smartest thing to do. Why have cards in your deck if you wish to dump them all? Why not put crud in?
visserac88
08-23-2007, 05:29 AM
Reason?
Hey I can provide proper reason for my arguments, unlike you.
Having 6 cards in your hand requires strategy. OP is a low entrance cost ninja late game....and you said they are crud late game.
CoP can dump the most valuable items from your deck. If it was +1+0 PER CARD, it would be great. However, at +1+0 per 2 cards.....
I use 1 9TC and pwn lots of ppl....go commons. Revenge never cam out in AUS, not that it really matters. 9tc is pwnage. Losing cards isn't the smartest thing to do. Why have cards in your deck if you wish to dump them all? Why not put crud in?
I agree with OP for sure but one in a deck is enough.
9TC can't be paired while at most he can only be a 6. Choji, shika, and dosu kills it. A deck is made to have cards work together. Your opponent is never going to know if your gonna pump with COP and he's way more wicked with support. While 9TC is on your field in the start your not gonna have any earlychakra cuz your gonna be worried about your sweet 6 power. 9TC dosen't have growth and he's screwed after turn 2.
At most your only going to use Cop's effect once cuz your opponent's not going to play chicken with a train.
Katsuragi Keima
08-23-2007, 12:49 PM
Reason?
Hey I can provide proper reason for my arguments, unlike you.
Having 6 cards in your hand requires strategy. OP is a low entrance cost ninja late game....and you said they are crud late game.
CoP can dump the most valuable items from your deck. If it was +1+0 PER CARD, it would be great. However, at +1+0 per 2 cards.....
I use 1 9TC and pwn lots of ppl....go commons. Revenge never cam out in AUS, not that it really matters. 9tc is pwnage. Losing cards isn't the smartest thing to do. Why have cards in your deck if you wish to dump them all? Why not put crud in?
Once again.
Nine Tailed Chakra cannot be included in a team.
Nine Tailed Chakra will get his face bashed in by Shikamaru.
Skater_Strike
08-23-2007, 02:50 PM
I've proven my reason over and over, you *******es just don't want to admit your "tech" isn't better than AoC.
So you're willing to take 4-6 BR just so you can use a zero drop LATE GAME?
Idiots.
hafesie
08-24-2007, 01:51 AM
No I proved you wrong. You said 0 drop ninja were useless late game, but OP is useful. So why don't you admit it?
9TC>CoP in MY OPINION! omg! an opinion!
Why add cards if you wish to dump them all over again? Just add cheap crud then.
9TC requires no Dumping, and hey, you can use him for chumping.
OMG....See? Your own argument. Use early game stuff for chumping.
nogard
08-24-2007, 03:27 AM
You are an idiot, HAHAHAA!
no man i think you are
I've proven my reason over and over, you *******es just don't want to admit your "tech" isn't better than AoC.
So you're willing to take 4-6 BR just so you can use a zero drop LATE GAME?
Idiots.
aoc was better and is better in "TEMPO" but i guess you cant get it thorugh your head that aoc isnt that good anymore by your logic aoc beats btl and what is this 4-6 brs you make no sence(sp)
No I proved you wrong. You said 0 drop ninja were useless late game, but OP is useful. So why don't you admit it?
9TC>CoP in MY OPINION! omg! an opinion!
Why add cards if you wish to dump them all over again? Just add cheap crud then.
9TC requires no Dumping, and hey, you can use him for chumping.
OMG....See? Your own argument. Use early game stuff for chumping.
um im sorry to say this but op isnt that good only cause of shika messing him up
Skater_Strike
08-24-2007, 01:58 PM
no man i think you are
aoc was better and is better in "TEMPO" but i guess you cant get it thorugh your head that aoc isnt that good anymore by your logic aoc beats btl and what is this 4-6 brs you make no sence(sp)
um im sorry to say this but op isnt that good only cause of shika messing him up
And I'M the who can't put a sentence together.
AoC isn't good in Tempo, Choji, CoP, and Ino are the Tempo zero drops.
Still, AoC IS BETTER THAN ROOKIE.
You guys are just idiots, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
You disgree disgree saying the same dumb **** you said from the beginning.
ZOMG YOU CAN USE IT LATE GAME.
I'd have rather APW, CO, ES, Inoichi, Asuma, Suien, blah blah out late game.
Katsuragi Keima
08-24-2007, 02:11 PM
No I proved you wrong. You said 0 drop ninja were useless late game, but OP is useful. So why don't you admit it?
9TC>CoP in MY OPINION! omg! an opinion!
Why add cards if you wish to dump them all over again? Just add cheap crud then.
9TC requires no Dumping, and hey, you can use him for chumping.
OMG....See? Your own argument. Use early game stuff for chumping.
OP is a 1 drop. Nice observation skills.
9TC is obsolete. Choji kills him, CoP kills him, Shikamaru makes his effect nonexistent.
nogard
08-24-2007, 07:25 PM
And I'M the who can't put a sentence together.
AoC isn't good in Tempo, Choji, CoP, and Ino are the Tempo zero drops.
Still, AoC IS BETTER THAN ROOKIE.
You guys are just idiots, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
You disgree disgree saying the same dumb **** you said from the beginning.
ZOMG YOU CAN USE IT LATE GAME.
I'd have rather APW, CO, ES, Inoichi, Asuma, Suien, blah blah out late game.
Um yea your are the one who cant put a sentence together, what is this disgree disgree alt least put (sp) next to it.
I dont think choji is a tempo card as you need a 3 man team to make it a 5 while aoc all you need is a 2 support.
Have you been to any big tornys lately after er cause i have, and rookie was owning aocs.
What kind of deck are you running fire/ water/earth no wonder why you suck.
Skater_Strike
08-24-2007, 10:39 PM
I run Water/Earth whore.
And I know how to spell disagree, I just forgot the "a".
^
| That's a a sentence if you didn't know.
nogard
08-25-2007, 04:08 AM
I run Water/Earth whore.
And I know how to spell disagree, I just forgot the "a".
^
| That's a a sentence if you didn't know.
no wonder why you think rookie sucks also i dont think you have played a person with this team
rookie 3rd and shika asuma
Skater_Strike
08-25-2007, 05:27 AM
no wonder why you think rookie sucks also i dont think you have played a person with this team
rookie 3rd and shika asuma
STOP SAYING **** LIKE THAT.
"ZOMG IF I HAVE ROOKIE AND APW, I R GREAT."
You can have Shika/Asuma Platoon, I'll take Zabuza and APW.
hafesie
08-25-2007, 11:30 PM
Rookie is more strategical than AoC. AoC is brute power.
And BACK ON TOPIC! STOP talking about CoP and Choji, BACK ON TOPIC!
nogard
08-26-2007, 01:45 AM
STOP SAYING **** LIKE THAT.
"ZOMG IF I HAVE ROOKIE AND APW, I R GREAT."
You can have Shika/Asuma Platoon, I'll take Zabuza and APW.
So you play water earth splash 3rd, you said that you play water earth so wtf is zab and 3rd going to do. I now see that you dont know what to do against a team of rookie shika asuma and 3rd. You'll probably(sp) say "I'll take it." then I'll say "To bad you have to block." And you still have to worry about 3rd's effect, and my jutsus.
Skater_Strike
08-26-2007, 07:19 AM
There you go again.
How do you know I don't have any Jutsus to counter it?
nogard
08-27-2007, 01:00 AM
There you go again.
How do you know I don't have any Jutsus to counter it?
Cause I have 3rd on the team to stop anything you try to do. And don't you think I'll have jutsu to counter
hafesie
08-27-2007, 05:22 AM
We are getting too situational. Who said you would get the team in the first place, anyway?
AoC vs. Rookie....Not team a vs. team b.
Please give clear reasons to which one is better.
PLEASE
Katsuragi Keima
08-27-2007, 02:09 PM
We are getting too situational. Who said you would get the team in the first place, anyway?
AoC vs. Rookie....Not team a vs. team b.
Please give clear reasons to which one is better.
PLEASE
If I was a mod this thread would be SO locked. It's pointless.
You clearly prefer No.1 while the rest of us prefer AoC, simply for the fact that he is a heavier hitter than No.1. Rookie, in my opinion, should not be ran unless you make a deck with a specific use for him. Mono-Fire will NOT run Rookie, period. Ever. It's either AoC or Reason or the Late Arrival. Rookie might be good in a Tempo build along with Shino [Original Opponent], but he will not be used outside of those deck builds. No.1 might be able to help late game, but everyone knows that if you go into late game with Tempo, chances are you will lose, therefore No.1 might not even see use in that archetype.
To address the other topics, CoP is a great card. He sees play in almost every deck, unless Legacy of the Fourth Hokage is being ran, which it should be in everything but Tempo. CoP is great in Tempo, Genin Rush, or any other sort of Beat Down deck. Legacy should be ran over him in Water, Fire, or any mix the two might have, such as Water/Earth or Fire/Earth.
Overflowing Power Naruto is a good card. The fact that he's a turn 1 Ninja sucks because he can only be of use late game. People don't like him because he needs to be injured to be good, and an injured attacker can easily be taken care of by Paper Bombs or Fireballs.
Ino is broken. End of discussion. If you feel she in NO way affects your village, teams, or strategies, you are clearly out of your mind.
Did I miss anything? XD
nogard
08-28-2007, 01:37 AM
If I was a mod this thread would be SO locked. It's pointless.
You clearly prefer No.1 while the rest of us prefer AoC, simply for the fact that he is a heavier hitter than No.1. Rookie, in my opinion, should not be ran unless you make a deck with a specific use for him. Mono-Fire will NOT run Rookie, period. Ever. It's either AoC or Reason or the Late Arrival. Rookie might be good in a Tempo build along with Shino [Original Opponent], but he will not be used outside of those deck builds. No.1 might be able to help late game, but everyone knows that if you go into late game with Tempo, chances are you will lose, therefore No.1 might not even see use in that archetype.
To address the other topics, CoP is a great card. He sees play in almost every deck, unless Legacy of the Fourth Hokage is being ran, which it should be in everything but Tempo. CoP is great in Tempo, Genin Rush, or any other sort of Beat Down deck. Legacy should be ran over him in Water, Fire, or any mix the two might have, such as Water/Earth or Fire/Earth.
Overflowing Power Naruto is a good card. The fact that he's a turn 1 Ninja sucks because he can only be of use late game. People don't like him because he needs to be injured to be good, and an injured attacker can easily be taken care of by Paper Bombs or Fireballs.
Ino is broken. End of discussion. If you feel she in NO way affects your village, teams, or strategies, you are clearly out of your mind.
Did I miss anything? XD
do you know what tempo is cause if you did you would know that etb sasuke is the one you want to play not rookie.
I wish i could go to all of your shops and play you guys in person so i can show you guys how good rookie is.
Also mono fire will not run aoc or rfla period. its btl
Skater_Strike
08-28-2007, 03:12 PM
do you know what tempo is cause if you did you would know that etb sasuke is the one you want to play not rookie.
I wish i could go to all of your shops and play you guys in person so i can show you guys how good rookie is.
Also mono fire will not run aoc or rfla period. its btl
playing a Sasuke in Tempo IN GENERAL is an auto-fail.
Choji have fun much?
nogard
08-29-2007, 01:05 AM
playing a Sasuke in Tempo IN GENERAL is an auto-fail.
Choji have fun much?
the only reason why choji is better in tempo is cause its on element, but ill take sasuke over choji cause you need a 3 support or most likely 2 support ninjas for him as sasuke only needs 1
hafesie
08-31-2007, 01:13 AM
Hmm...I see the discussions are actually getting to discussions.
Who said you run Rookie in Tempo? Run it in normal deck. I won with it once...forced his big team to block my little rookie and got 4br...game.
AoC is a stronger hitter, but Rookie gives early and late advantage...which is one good thing about it. It also has strategical early game advantages with Temari and shikamaru, as you can force a mental battle.
I do understand your AoC arguments, however, still think Rookie is better. Simply the options and flexibility of Rookie make me run him.
nogard
08-31-2007, 01:19 AM
Hmm...I see the discussions are actually getting to discussions.
Who said you run Rookie in Tempo? Run it in normal deck. I won with it once...forced his big team to block my little rookie and got 4br...game.
AoC is a stronger hitter, but Rookie gives early and late advantage...which is one good thing about it. It also has strategical early game advantages with Temari and shikamaru, as you can force a mental battle.
I do understand your AoC arguments, however, still think Rookie is better. Simply the options and flexibility of Rookie make me run him.
now thats what im talking bout
visserac88
08-31-2007, 03:10 AM
Id play diffrent sasukes then rookie or AOC but it all depends what deck sasuke is in and what deck your playing against. AOC has become a must in all decks that mixes with fire around my place and I have never seen Rookie played once. Your only gonna use Rookies effect once and AOC is only good until turn 3-4 at most...I hate both. Id rather see other turn 0's played and stick to the turn 1 sasukes.
nogard
08-31-2007, 02:59 PM
the reason why you havent seen rookie played is cause its secret tech if theres an event down here in cali before the next set be sure to see rookie in the top tables
Katsuragi Keima
08-31-2007, 03:35 PM
the reason why you havent seen rookie played is cause its secret tech if theres an event down here in cali before the next set be sure to see rookie in the top tables
Lol. Rookie isn't secret tech with the way we're discussing him here.
I doubt anyone will be using No.1 Rookie. Freedori uses BtL, other Fire decks use AoC or RftLA, or maybe even PotCM from ER. All these Sasukes are better than No.1, so people would have to go through quite a few to even consider running him. I haven't seen ANYONE run No.1 at my local tourney spot.
visserac88
08-31-2007, 04:03 PM
I play Avenger, RFTLA, and POTCM. I seen a kid play Rookie once....Kudos for the kid after he got 12th place.....out of 12 ppl.
x}{gaara}{x
09-01-2007, 03:04 AM
both suck in this meta but aoc is better end of story this thread has long over lived its purpose and has become off topic
nogard
09-01-2007, 03:19 AM
Lol. Rookie isn't secret tech with the way we're discussing him here.
I doubt anyone will be using No.1 Rookie. Freedori uses BtL, other Fire decks use AoC or RftLA, or maybe even PotCM from ER. All these Sasukes are better than No.1, so people would have to go through quite a few to even consider running him. I haven't seen ANYONE run No.1 at my local tourney spot.
alot of the good people dont go here anyways so it doesnt matter
I play Avenger, RFTLA, and POTCM. I seen a kid play Rookie once....Kudos for the kid after he got 12th place.....out of 12 ppl.
pretty good running 3 different 1 drops. that kid was probably a noob
both suck in this meta but aoc is better end of story this thread has long over lived its purpose and has become off topic
aoc sucks in this meta as rookie doesnt have his effect negated by shika, also why post if it has long over lived its pourpose.
back on topic if you guys can see no aoc or other sasukes made it in the top 4 execpt(sp) for rookie btl and flowering, also me and my 2 other teammates who were all running rookies made top 8 at our chunin.
richizzle
09-01-2007, 09:29 AM
WoW what a discussion. Here's my opinion rookie got much better with this set thanks to shikamaru Formation. Shikamaru's effect takes priority even if AOC is attacking so it won't gain any boost. Basically its a 3 combat VS a 3 combat + nice effect. STILL this is too situational, like I always say in naruto power is superior to effect (their might be some exception like Ino). Since people runs Ino in 3 their is almost no chance you'll get a team of Rookie + shikamaru. That will leave AOC VS Rookie. Guess who'll win? Rookie is a great card especially in Tempo but AOC is much better in any other decks.
hafesie
09-01-2007, 03:16 PM
Yes, Shikamaru's effect takes priority...but is priority in this game like yu-gi-oh where it activates first, therefore resolving last or does it just activate and resolve first?
In other words, do they choose who to block and THEN you use shika's effect or do you use shikas effect then they block?
Anyway, Rookie with INO is also good, similar to Shikamaru.
You see, the sad thing about Ino is "String Control Jutsu".
BTW, the shikamaru I was talking about was shikamaru [IQ of 2 or lower (read first post)]
As said before, the simple flexibility of Rookie makes it superior.
What if you have a Shikamaru and a Temari? They can only have 1 Ino.
Shikamaru + Something else that can force mental? "Cheating" (mission)?
richizzle
09-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Shikamaru's effect takes priority immediately when your opponent chooses to block with a team.
nogard
09-02-2007, 02:45 AM
rookie is not good in tempo i dont know why you guys think its good in that deck
Naruto_Lee_019
09-02-2007, 06:26 AM
i think rookie is WAY BETTER than aoc. aoc is good till turn 2 thats it. then he blows horribly and your basically down a ninja to attack your opponent with early on in the game. rookie on the other hand can long serve it's purpose. he gets you easy battle rewards late game by making your opponent use their big team to block puny little rookie while your other teams take battle rewards.
the REAL question here is which do you want more? power or battle rewards? last i checked the objective was to win 10 battle rewards and you win. i think i'll take 2-4 battle rewards early/late game than get +1 combot for about 2 turns.
in the end rookie>aoc END OF DISCUSSION. :cool: <cuz i could :p
Arcane_Fox
09-03-2007, 12:06 AM
AoC beats Rookie -_- and AoC is hardly runnable anymore, seeing as theres MUCH better 0 Drops *Sakura, Ino, Choji, Naruto* and the fact that BtL should be taking his place.
AoC - Turn 0-2: He is a 4 most likely
Rookie - 0-2: He is a 3, AoC can beat him, or you gimme BR's, either or I'm happy ..
After that, I won't need Sasuke, I'll have a new head ninja, if u try to send out sasuke and go like "Lawlz block me nub!" I just use my Standby ninja *AoC Maybe =D* and beat ur Rookie -_-,
Rookie's effect goes off ONCE, and it ONLY works *Good* LATE game, and when ur opponent has only 1 team, and u have 3, That's never going to happen .. Why? Because, while u were using Rookie early game, I'd be wreaking ur field with Naruto and AoC -_-
hafesie
09-03-2007, 01:04 AM
Rookie+Shikamaru...cough cough cough
Since your opponent chooses to block (well, he doesn't choose, the Rookie chooses for him), you then discard 2 cards to force mental.
Ok...next turn INO is played.
I play...er...crud I suck at remembering names. This wind ninja that lets u perform mental battle, turn 2 0/0...0/0 or use cheating mission.
In fact, I don't need to do any of that, but that would help. I could just send shik at head ninja and mental that way.
If your opponent cheats and gets 3 ino on the field, then you have rookie, shikamaru and that chunin, or sakura and that chunin with Cheating or something. Send out rookie and shikamaru and sakura....if 3 ino block then all 3 injure, if something else blocks then you mental to death.
Please note you have to block Rookie.
What? You say how could I have such a team of ninjas on the field?
How could they get 3 ino on the field?
nogard
09-03-2007, 02:16 AM
AoC beats Rookie -_- and AoC is hardly runnable anymore, seeing as theres MUCH better 0 Drops *Sakura, Ino, Choji, Naruto* and the fact that BtL should be taking his place.
AoC - Turn 0-2: He is a 4 most likely
Rookie - 0-2: He is a 3, AoC can beat him, or you gimme BR's, either or I'm happy ..
After that, I won't need Sasuke, I'll have a new head ninja, if u try to send out sasuke and go like "Lawlz block me nub!" I just use my Standby ninja *AoC Maybe =D* and beat ur Rookie -_-,
Rookie's effect goes off ONCE, and it ONLY works *Good* LATE game, and when ur opponent has only 1 team, and u have 3, That's never going to happen .. Why? Because, while u were using Rookie early game, I'd be wreaking ur field with Naruto and AoC -_-
how would you be wreaking my field if i have shika to negate your effect
oh thats right you cant
Arcane_Fox
09-03-2007, 01:07 PM
how would you be wreaking my field if i have shika to negate your effect
oh thats right you cant
uh huh .. You do know people run Shikamaru + Ino in 3 right -_-
Also the fact that we'd still tie AoC + Shika against Rookie + Shika ... And I'm valid, ur not o.O
Rookie+Shikamaru...cough cough cough
Since your opponent chooses to block (well, he doesn't choose, the Rookie chooses for him), you then discard 2 cards to force mental.
Ok...next turn INO is played.
I play...er...crud I suck at remembering names. This wind ninja that lets u perform mental battle, turn 2 0/0...0/0 or use cheating mission.
In fact, I don't need to do any of that, but that would help. I could just send shik at head ninja and mental that way.
If your opponent cheats and gets 3 ino on the field, then you have rookie, shikamaru and that chunin, or sakura and that chunin with Cheating or something. Send out rookie and shikamaru and sakura....if 3 ino block then all 3 injure, if something else blocks then you mental to death.
Please note you have to block Rookie.
What? You say how could I have such a team of ninjas on the field?
How could they get 3 ino on the field?
I'm sorry, your post HARDLY made any sense, Mind Explaining it again?
The points I got though: Ur using Shika IQ, Suzume and Cheating -_-, if ur using those ur going to lose anyways, trust me, name 1 Competitive deck that used those 3.
nogard
09-04-2007, 12:27 AM
uh huh .. You do know people run Shikamaru + Ino in 3 right -_-
Also the fact that we'd still tie AoC + Shika against Rookie + Shika ... And I'm valid, ur not o.O
I'm sorry, your post HARDLY made any sense, Mind Explaining it again?
The points I got though: Ur using Shika IQ, Suzume and Cheating -_-, if ur using those ur going to lose anyways, trust me, name 1 Competitive deck that used those 3.
and you think that i dont run ino as well
do i have to tell you again rookie/3rd/platoon what are you going to do
hafesie
09-04-2007, 05:07 AM
My idea is that rookie+something that can force mental battles is good. They HAVE to block, and forcing mental is easy from there.
Arcane_Fox
09-04-2007, 08:21 AM
My idea is that rookie+something that can force mental battles is good. They HAVE to block, and forcing mental is easy from there.
True, but that'd mean he'd be good in mental decks, not other's -_-'
Also, most players run Shikamaru in 3's, and most of those players run Flex, which can stop mental alltogether.
and you think that i dont run ino as well
do i have to tell you again rookie/3rd/platoon what are you going to do
Well, seeing as how It'd be hard to beat that team anyways, I'd rather just have ES scoring BR's in that team over a rookie.
nogard
09-04-2007, 05:04 PM
True, but that'd mean he'd be good in mental decks, not other's -_-'
Also, most players run Shikamaru in 3's, and most of those players run Flex, which can stop mental alltogether.
Well, seeing as how It'd be hard to beat that team anyways, I'd rather just have ES scoring BR's in that team over a rookie.
yea i see your point but the pont of that team is to get back your brs and then they have to block with their 3rd sooner or later
richizzle
09-04-2007, 07:03 PM
Omg... I already given my opinion but I will day it again in a simple way... AOC> rookie.. rookie's good but not as much as AOC. End of discussion now mods please close this thread.
nogard
09-04-2007, 10:48 PM
Omg... I already given my opinion but I will day it again in a simple way... AOC> rookie.. rookie's good but not as much as AOC. End of discussion now mods please close this thread.
i dont think anyone cares about your opinion and if you want it locked dont post in it you noob
hafesie
09-05-2007, 01:37 AM
STOP FLAMMIN!!!
No-one in my local runs flex. All run AoC and 1 Shikamaru with 3 temari.
OK you play flex....sure I DONT mental battle then.
Rookie>aoc cos of FLEXIBILITY!! omg Rookie is the new Shikamaru..it has FLEXIBILITY.
That is why it is better, it can be used in many situations.
richizzle
09-05-2007, 02:52 PM
i dont think anyone cares about your opinion and if you want it locked dont post in it you noob
****. This is thread to give our opinions you idiot. And if likes anyone cares about yours. You're just defending your rookie so bravo yeah scream it loud rookie owns aoc. Happy?? I agree with you now go loose your tournament with it. WHAT you say im a nobb!!?? Let see what people think...
Who's the noob??
Richizzle = won several tournaments has a lot of mats to prove it.
Nogard = I play sasuke number one rookie and im not running mental.
Humm tough decision...
nogard
09-05-2007, 05:43 PM
****. This is thread to give our opinions you idiot. And if likes anyone cares about yours. You're just defending your rookie so bravo yeah scream it loud rookie owns aoc. Happy?? I agree with you now go loose your tournament with it. WHAT you say im a nobb!!?? Let see what people think...
Who's the noob??
Richizzle = won several tournaments has a lot of mats to prove it.
Nogard = I play sasuke number one rookie and im not running mental.
Humm tough decision...
um i think i have won more tournys than you as i have all of the mats
richizzle
09-05-2007, 06:00 PM
Did you win them with Number one rookie in your deck?
nogard
09-05-2007, 06:57 PM
after er was legal yes i did
richizzle
09-05-2007, 07:12 PM
what deck are u running?
nogard
09-05-2007, 07:26 PM
fire earth
richizzle
09-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Hopes it's not freedori.
nogard
09-05-2007, 07:37 PM
why would it be freedori if i run rookie
richizzle
09-05-2007, 07:40 PM
Yeah that's what I was thinking, Isn't freedori who always win or most of the time ??
nogard
09-05-2007, 08:37 PM
why do you think that they made er to stop freedori right and i got my tech for freedori so i most likely win
Arcane_Fox
09-05-2007, 09:33 PM
why do you think that they made er to stop freedori right and i got my tech for freedori so i most likely win
*Starts to giggle* I'm sorry, but did you just say ER stopped Freedori .. *Laughs*
nogard
09-05-2007, 11:15 PM
*Starts to giggle* I'm sorry, but did you just say ER stopped Freedori .. *Laughs*
i said it was made to stop it
Katsuragi Keima
09-05-2007, 11:26 PM
why do you think that they made er to stop freedori right and i got my tech for freedori so i most likely win
Tech for Freedori is any of the new Shikamaru...which are being ran in 3's in all decks...Meaning everyone is running Freedori tech now :)
ER didn't stop Freedori, it just gave the deck more good cards to splash in.
hafesie
09-06-2007, 03:47 AM
ER gave Nothing to rookie, yet it still pwns.
You have ino-shhika-choji and some other team
I have Rookie and, say, Shikamaru and Suzame.
Attack
You either block with choji, use effect, injure rookie and perform mental
OR
Block with choji, but use ino at the front, injure somethingorother, let me mental..same thing
OR
Block with crud that dies
BFK!!
09-06-2007, 05:58 AM
Ionly have one thing to say in this topic honestly....Nogard, please learn how to play the game.
Katsuragi Keima
09-06-2007, 12:54 PM
ER gave Nothing to rookie, yet it still pwns.
You have ino-shhika-choji and some other team
I have Rookie and, say, Shikamaru and Suzame.
Attack
You either block with choji, use effect, injure rookie and perform mental
OR
Block with choji, but use ino at the front, injure somethingorother, let me mental..same thing
OR
Block with crud that dies
You're saying that Rookie might only be of some use in Mental decks. Kthxbye. Also, you make the most ridiculous scenarios, its hilarious! XD
BFK!~~Maybe you should learn how to play the game...Trigrams don't cost 1 Fire :p
nogard
09-06-2007, 07:37 PM
Tech for Freedori is any of the new Shikamaru...which are being ran in 3's in all decks...Meaning Freedori teveryone is running ech now :)
ER didn't stop Freedori, it just gave the deck more good cards to splash in.
they made it to stop freedori from being top teir but i guess where you guys live it didnt help
Ionly have one thing to say in this topic honestly....Nogard, please learn how to play the game.
i think that you need to learn how to play as i have gave reasons on why the card is good w/o mental as i dont run it w/ mental and i still do good all the time. all of you guys that dont think its good try it once and get back to me
The Lost Prophet
09-06-2007, 08:16 PM
I really didn't want to even touch this thread, but this comment is forcing me to.
they made it to stop freedori from being top teir but i guess where you guys live it didnt help
It didn't work where anybody lives (at least nowhere where it matters). Have you heard the results from the Sannin tournament?
nogard
09-06-2007, 08:33 PM
I really didn't want to even touch this thread, but this comment is forcing me to.
It didn't work where anybody lives (at least nowhere where it matters). Have you heard the results from the Sannin tournament?
yea i have im the one who told these kids that rookie was in a top four deck and that aoc was nowhere to be found
Katsuragi Keima
09-06-2007, 10:37 PM
yea i have im the one who told these kids that rookie was in a top four deck and that aoc was nowhere to be found
AoC wasn't to be seen because everyone was running BtL, duh.
Lol, the person who ran No.1 didn't win the Sannins, right? So meh.
"OMG Rookie pwns because he was in a T4 deck yet every other deck was running BtL!!!"
BFK!!
09-06-2007, 10:48 PM
simple mistake Kirby...gosh
-.-;;
Ryu Juini
09-06-2007, 10:54 PM
Hey you kids, cut that out.
Katsuragi Keima
09-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Hey you kids, cut that out.
Stop spamming modster >.>
BFK got pwned by teh Toadz!!! XD Brokage got a Liquid Bullet right to his limp noodle d***.
Anyway, back on topic. One deck was running No.1 Rookie. ONE. Doesn't that tell you something?
hafesie
09-06-2007, 11:03 PM
Nom it doesn't.
Can you come up with a scenario then?
Rookie>AoC cos of flexibility. This thread is not whether Rookie is good, simply whether it is better than AoC, which it is.
And it is good as well.
BFK!!
09-06-2007, 11:13 PM
Lol at ryu trieng to get his post count up.
and neither card see's play.....but if you would play one you would want to have an early game dominance....but choji bowls them both over anyways .
._.
nogard
09-07-2007, 12:16 AM
AoC wasn't to be seen because everyone was running BtL, duh.
Lol, the person who ran No.1 didn't win the Sannins, right? So meh.
"OMG Rookie pwns because he was in a T4 deck yet every other deck was running BtL!!!"
the reason why i brought that up is cause that prick skate or whatever said let me get that deck list with rookie oh wait there is none and i havent seen him since
everyone was running freedori cause no one can think of original decks
Lol at ryu trieng to get his post count up.
and neither card see's play.....but if you would play one you would want to have an early game dominance....but choji bowls them both over anyways .
._.
the one who doesnt see play in my area is aoc cause he sucks NOW but he was good before, and to let you know the meta is either freedori or fire earth and all of the fire earths play rookie not aoc
choji is good but i wouldnt run him as i have better options than him as the new one should see more play than this one
hafesie
09-07-2007, 04:26 AM
Once again, Choji is bad against rookie as I can force mental.
Then, if you don't use it's effect, I win anyway.
Katsuragi Keima
09-07-2007, 07:56 AM
Once again, Choji is bad against rookie as I can force mental.
Then, if you don't use it's effect, I win anyway.
You CAN'T force mental with Rookie alone!!! Thats just another one of your stupid scenarios! By the way, on turn 1, your opponent isn't going to have 2+ teams for Rookie to force anything. Choji kills rookie right off the bat, no matter if there is mental or not. Every deck runs Shikamaru and Sakura, so your mental strategy is pretty much s***.
nogard
09-07-2007, 05:20 PM
You CAN'T force mental with Rookie alone!!! Thats just another one of your stupid scenarios! By the way, on turn 1, your opponent isn't going to have 2+ teams for Rookie to force anything. Choji kills rookie right off the bat, no matter if there is mental or not. Every deck runs Shikamaru and Sakura, so your mental strategy is pretty much s***.
thats why your not supposed to drop rookie on turn zero its way betters as a 2 or something
Katsuragi Keima
09-07-2007, 05:47 PM
thats why your not supposed to drop rookie on turn zero its way betters as a 2 or something
My point still stands that your Rookie mental crap strategy is garbage since everyone runs mental.
nogard
09-07-2007, 06:08 PM
My point still stands that your Rookie mental crap strategy is garbage since everyone runs mental.
who said that i run mental you dont need it to win
ThunderGod92
09-07-2007, 08:11 PM
i pay shika now wat
Wait so shika negates choji? Dang i would've won that battle a lot faster. And just so my post isnt spam aoc rules.:cool:
SamehadaSlasher
09-07-2007, 09:53 PM
AoC > Rookie (Power).
Rookie > AoC (Strategy).
All depends on how you prefer to play.
nogard
09-08-2007, 01:40 AM
AoC > Rookie (Power).
Rookie > AoC (Strategy).
All depends on how you prefer to play.
sasuke will rarely ever get his effect so rookie is way better
SamehadaSlasher
09-08-2007, 12:56 PM
Yes, but in the very beginning of the game, AoC will have his effect. I'm talking turn 0...
hafesie
09-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Yay finally people get it.
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war.
However, as AoC only wins the battle, technically rookie wins the war.
Hmm...no-one runs sakura but all run shikamaru. If I ran both against whatever you have....unless you have water vortex or something
Katsuragi Keima
09-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Yay finally people get it.
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war.
However, as AoC only wins the battle, technically rookie wins the war.
Hmm...no-one runs sakura but all run shikamaru. If I ran both against whatever you have....unless you have water vortex or something
LOL are you ******ed? EVERYONE runs Sakura [A Double Personality] now.
SamehadaSlasher
09-08-2007, 10:45 PM
Yea, it's kinda sad...Hi Kirby!
hafesie
09-10-2007, 01:12 AM
Everyone except for people in australia.
My local tourney risks a lot every saturaday to let us use illegal cards (curse stuff-ER). According to Bandai rules (and the same with yu-gi-oh), illegal cards cannot be used. Thank god.... they haven't been busted.
AoC wins the battle, Rookie wins the war.
AoC gives brute strength, Rookie has strategy.
AoC outpowers Rookie, Rookie outthinks AoC.
That is my statement, not how good sakura and shikamaru are with Rookie, although that was an argument.
Arcane_Fox
09-11-2007, 10:46 PM
The thing is, ur rookie can't DO anything if my teams are stronger than yours. /= Which it will be if I'm using pretty much any other Sasuke. Also I'm talking like early game, if ur talking about late game, and u drop Rookie, and I drop like, ES, then I just won -_-
PS: Late game, I'll have 3+ teams, Early game, I'll have less than 2 teams, So Rookie is pretty useless /=
hafesie
09-12-2007, 12:56 AM
I will have shikamaru to mental battle.
If you DON'T block early game...guess what I do. I get a BR....how amazing.
ES has 0 mental
Arcane_Fox
09-14-2007, 08:05 PM
I will have shikamaru to mental battle.
If you DON'T block early game...guess what I do. I get a BR....how amazing.
ES has 0 mental
Sasuke can't use good Jutsu's -_-
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OMFG, mental WON'T work, why? ALL people run Formation or Flex in 3's, Flex PWNS mental in the FACE, all people run sakura's in 3's
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ES has 0 mental ... know who else has 0 mental? Sasuke #1 Rookie -_-, your argument makes NO sense on that part.
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The reason to run rookie is so they HAVE to block it, yet you just said "I get a BR" if sasuke is getting you a BR, then iunoo wtf is happening.
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With the above being said, Rookie will RARELY get his effect
In short: Mental DOESN'T work too well, and if it does, it WOULDN'T run Sasuke -Rookie-
On to AoC ...
Turn 0 You play Rookie I play AoC, I just out tempo'd u, meaning if you play a ninja, I can just play the SAME ninja, and will always have the upper hand on you.
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Early game Advantage is EVERYTHING, if I can kill your ninja's early on, while I have like, 3 Ninja's to ur 0, then I will probally win late game, the only way you can come back is like, Inherit into APW/ES, Triple Trigram or some crap.
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Your statement of "AoC wins the battle but Rookie wins the war" is nonsense, I mean if Rookie already lost the battle, he'd be dead and not be able to win a war -_-'
nogard
09-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Sasuke can't use good Jutsu's -_-
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OMFG, mental WON'T work, why? ALL people run Formation or Flex in 3's, Flex PWNS mental in the FACE, all people run sakura's in 3's
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ES has 0 mental ... know who else has 0 mental? Sasuke #1 Rookie -_-, your argument makes NO sense on that part.
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The reason to run rookie is so they HAVE to block it, yet you just said "I get a BR" if sasuke is getting you a BR, then iunoo wtf is happening.
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With the above being said, Rookie will RARELY get his effect
In short: Mental DOESN'T work too well, and if it does, it WOULDN'T run Sasuke -Rookie-
On to AoC ...
Turn 0 You play Rookie I play AoC, I just out tempo'd u, meaning if you play a ninja, I can just play the SAME ninja, and will the uppalways have er hand on you.
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Early game Advantage is EVERYTHING, if I can kill your ninja's early on, while I have like, 3 Ninja's to ur 0, then I will probally win late game, the only way you can come back is like, Inherit into APW/ES, Triple Trigram or some crap.
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Your statement of "AoC wins the battle but Rookie wins the war" is nonsense, I mean if Rookie already lost the battle, he'd be dead and not be able to win a war -_-'
u dont understand it do you ur not supposed to drop rookie on zero. ok you can play the same ninja but late game ill get my brs back w/ the platoon on the same team as rookie and 3rd
Arcane_Fox
09-15-2007, 10:57 PM
u dont understand it do you ur not supposed to drop rookie on zero. ok you can play the same ninja but late game ill get my brs back w/ the platoon on the same team as rookie and 3rd
No ... you won't -_-', the fact is, if you manage to get that team out, who would want sasuke as the head, I'd rather have ES /=
SamehadaSlasher
09-16-2007, 09:41 PM
But if you have ES as the head against Nogard's team, APW will just pop ES in the face...damn him...
nogard
09-17-2007, 12:15 AM
No ... you won't -_-', the fact is, if you manage to get that team out, who would want sasuke as the head, I'd rather have ES /=
um if es is the head my team is one lower than if sasuke is the head
But if you have ES as the head against Nogard's team, APW will just pop ES in the face...damn him...
haha u tell him how good this team isas you have faced it and its hard to beat huh
hafesie
09-17-2007, 02:02 AM
NEVER, unless absolutely necessary, pop a head ninja.
That being said, whatever is popped will generally make the rookie team stronger.
zeroinfinityx
09-17-2007, 06:50 AM
Sasuke can't use good Jutsu's -_-
Irrelivant
OMFG, mental WON'T work, why? ALL people run Formation or Flex in 3's, Flex PWNS mental in the FACE, all people run sakura's in 3's
Remarkably 2 Mental decks made Top cut at the sannin, one making T4, and 3 other mental decks went 5-3. FA sasuke + shikamaru = 8 MP. De flex is the prime choice for defense againt MP, but it doent auto win against it, because now that the battles are physical, and my ino forces shika to the front. So you either are under powered, OR you eat mental. The deck made by TCV was ingenious, but it fails to freedori and m****ive fireballs + dosus :\
In short: Mental DOESN'T work too well, and if it does, it WOULDN'T run Sasuke -Rookie-
It runs 1 Numbah 1 and 2 FA.
Turn 0 You play Rookie I play AoC, I just out tempo'd u,
LAWLS, ORLY? Cause I count 1 ninja each. Learn the meaning of words before you use them :rolleyes:
meaning if you play a ninja, I can just play the SAME ninja, and will always have the upper hand on you.
If its mental by turn 1, your +1 means jack :\
Early game Advantage is EVERYTHING,
Which is why AOC isnt played anymore -_- Chogi eats him, COP prawns him, and BTL = win. Rookie is a far better card this meta, but it still fails to BTL
-Zero
nogard
09-17-2007, 05:58 PM
Irrelivant
Remarkably 2 Mental decks made Top cut at the sannin, one making T4, and 3 other mental decks went 5-3. FA sasuke + shikamaru = 8 MP. De flex is the prime choice for defense againt MP, but it doent auto win against it, because now that the battles are physical, and my ino forces shika to the front. So you either are under powered, OR you eat mental. The deck made by TCV was ingenious, but it fails to freedori and m****ive fireballs + dosus :\
It runs 1 Numbah 1 and 2 FA.
LAWLS, ORLY? Cause I count 1 ninja each. Learn the meaning of words before you use them :rolleyes:
If its mental by turn 1, your +1 means jack :\
Which is why AOC isnt played anymore -_- Chogi eats him, COP prawns him, and BTL = win. Rookie is a far better card this meta, but it still fails to BTL
-Zero
finnaly someone good gets on here and tells them whats what
hafesie
09-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Rookie kills anything with mental and INO. Unless they have SSA, you just go ahead and mental and if you flex well who cares unless you throw your hand away in the first few turns, flex doesn't work.
SamehadaSlasher
09-18-2007, 12:00 AM
Haha Rookie + Shino [OO] = >.< (Different teams, obviously)
And yes, that team hurts...
Hafesie: Using APW badly is so much fun...I pop 'em when they irritate me...
hafesie
09-18-2007, 05:25 AM
If it is something that isn't run in 3s, the pop it by all means.
If it is run in 3s, not only is no ninja injured, but they will likely have a repalcement.
Arcane_Fox
09-18-2007, 08:25 AM
1- I'd rather have ES in that APW/Asuma team than Rookie, why? Cause when I ATK and you chump block I can do that whole, Trigram APW and take him as a BR crap -_-' Love to see Sasuke do it
2- Zero: You're talking about FA + Shikamaru having 8 MP, but if u do that you won't have sasuke -Rookie- In play, which is pretty much the whole topic of this arguement
3- Bleah, I said tempo cause it's easier than typing out "Beating you early game" /=
4- I most likely have Ino too, and I'd gladly injure my Shika to injure yours if your running mental
5- I know AoC is bad now, which is why I don't run him, nor do I run Rookie.
PaperNinja
09-18-2007, 09:39 AM
sasuke aoc can be runned it most decks
no 1 rookie is pretty much good in certain themed decks
hafesie
09-19-2007, 05:54 AM
AoC CANT be run in most decks for these reasons.
1. people use Konohamaru
2. people use jonin's intervention
3. RFTLA owns it
4. btl owns it
Arcane_Fox
09-19-2007, 05:03 PM
AoC CANT be run in most decks for these reasons.
1. people use Konohamaru
2. people use jonin's intervention
3. RFTLA owns it
4. btl owns it
Mind explaining how Konohamaru beats Sasuke -_-', a 0/0 against a 3/0, oh noes! and if ur talking about Rookie + Konohamaru as back ninja, that's 3 agianst my 3 + Back Ninja /=
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I'd love to see Rookie stand up to ES and Baki any better than AoC
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I guess /= AoC, can have the 4 as well, and is generically 1-2 turns faster
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Duh -_-'
Hyourinmaru
09-19-2007, 05:42 PM
AoC CANT be run in most decks for these reasons.
1. people use Konohamaru
2. people use jonin's intervention
3. RFTLA owns it
4. btl owns it
1. Lawl, no one run's Konohamaru anymore
2. Lawl, not many competitive decks run Jonin's Internvention.
3. True on that one.
4. Duh.
Skwirl
09-19-2007, 10:20 PM
*laughs at myself* i read this whole damn thread and couldn't figure out wtf AoC is @.@ will someone tell me so i can be in on the times -.-'
RFTLA and BTl would be nice too -.-'
minh2
09-19-2007, 10:31 PM
*laughs at myself* i read this whole damn thread and couldn't figure out wtf AoC is @.@ will someone tell me so i can be in on the times -.-'
RFTLA and BTl would be nice too -.-'
AOC = Sasuke[Analysis of Competence]
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=2&c=n062
RFTLA = Sasuke [Reason for the Late Arrival]
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=4&c=n137
hafesie
09-21-2007, 12:28 AM
But there aren't as many good replacements for Rookie, so really rookie>Aoc ALSO because aoc can't be run anymore.
PaperNinja
09-22-2007, 03:06 PM
AoC CANT be run in most decks for these reasons.
1. people use Konohamaru
2. people use jonin's intervention
3. RFTLA owns it
4. btl owns it
hmm.. i wondered what i meant by "most decks"
its funny because i dont think i said all decks
granted jonins interventions is a great card but sasuke is not going to always be there
you might have other ninjas like a sakura adp and shikamaru flex
you make it sound like sasuke will do all the fighting
and how many people run konohamura now?
havent seen those since revenge came out
hafesie
09-22-2007, 06:35 PM
konohamaru bypasses Aoce effect
If AoC kills a Genin, jonin's intervention
PaperNinja
09-22-2007, 07:22 PM
....wow....
yasmin
09-22-2007, 07:46 PM
konohamaru bypasses Aoce effect
If AoC kills a Genin, jonin's intervention
wow bud idk how u play the game but we play by the cards actual rule's were we come from.
hafesie
09-23-2007, 05:35 AM
Eh? Doesn't Jonin's intervention state that if a genin on your side is discarded, put a Jonin into your village at the end of the turn?
Arcane_Fox
09-23-2007, 12:32 PM
Dude, Sure konohamaru negates sasuke's effect, but the thing is KONOHAMARU'S GETTING PWNED ANYWAYS. 3 is better than 0 -_-' even if I don't get my +1.
The Lost Prophet
09-23-2007, 11:02 PM
Eh? Doesn't Jonin's intervention state that if a genin on your side is discarded, put a Jonin into your village at the end of the turn?
Actually it states any ninja.
No smart player will discard one of their opponent's ninja through battle if their opponent plays 'Jonin's Intervention'. So saying [AoC] is bad because of Jonin's Intervention doesn't really make any sense.
hafesie
09-24-2007, 02:01 AM
Then u get a free BR. YAY
PaperNinja
09-24-2007, 11:05 AM
so, 1 BR is good enough to prevent JI
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