View Full Version : Greatest OTK In History
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 09:36 AM
Post what you thought was the best OTK! I think it was either scientist or stein.
Brian
06-22-2007, 09:42 AM
Scientist obv.
Agreed. IMO stien otk closley follows this.
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 09:44 AM
COme to think of it Scientist OTK is better.
treeborn_frog
06-22-2007, 09:44 AM
scientist or stein. scientists a bit better though.
mbond79
06-22-2007, 09:46 AM
Personally I like the Tundo OTK simply because of the originality factor...But as for the OTK that has impacted this game more than any other it has to be the Yata-Lock...I hate that damned bird...
Just my 2 cents :D
The 'Biggg' One
Michael B.
izekio100
06-22-2007, 09:46 AM
I would say scientist because you can win on the very first turn
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the opinion . I sorta have a soft spot for tundo OTK but still scientist is better.
blastedmagician
06-22-2007, 09:48 AM
Scientist. It was the only FTK every made.
RADMAN RB
06-22-2007, 09:48 AM
stein was more fun to play on a person tho. it was just great to see ur opponents face. ah the good old days!
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 09:52 AM
I miss them so :(
tbert325
06-22-2007, 10:00 AM
i like to burn with cyberstein. pay 5k get a big monster on the field then ring and barrel behind the door. ok so it's a second turn kill ^_^
familyguy1491
06-22-2007, 10:00 AM
Exodia FTW... imagine your opponents face than.
XxX.:Ash Ketchum:.XxX
06-22-2007, 10:01 AM
Scientist was the first then I would put stein at 1.5 very close to scientist.
Though you could splash a random stein in alot of decks which was pretty good
Dark Marik 07
06-22-2007, 10:15 AM
Scientist. It was the only FTK every made.
theres alot actually
DMOC+Spell ecconomics+MAssdriver+Dimension Fusoion can go off first turn, and thats just the one that comes to mind
Twain249
06-22-2007, 10:16 AM
I personally like the exchange of spirit with maky OTK but the best is Scientist
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 10:18 AM
thats also very good
The Evil One
06-22-2007, 10:20 AM
But as for the OTK that has impacted this game more than any other it has to be the Yata-Lock...I hate that damned bird...
I personally like the exchange of spirit with maky OTK but the best is ScientistI personally liked RML, Dagger & Exodia also Last Turn, but I would have to say Yata Lock, followed very closely by Scientist
stephen756
06-22-2007, 10:21 AM
yea scientist otk is abusive lol
notasperfectasyou
06-22-2007, 10:21 AM
most underrated way to win ever. Yata was the most overrated. napay
Snowman Eater
06-22-2007, 10:22 AM
i think the 3rd best was the Butterfly Combo
Manipulator13
06-22-2007, 10:23 AM
tht was pretty beast too.
DmageW
06-22-2007, 10:25 AM
1. scientist
2. COOKIE JAR
3. stein
4. last turn
5. demise
yata is not a otk. especially if i have serpent or frog in the grave.
Twain249
06-22-2007, 10:26 AM
the last turn one is kinda inconsistant my friend ran a dedicated last turn deck for a while (when it wasnt banned) and quite frankly I usually had a counter when he tried to spring it, usually book on jowgen. We tied more often than not because of self destruct button
The Evil One
06-22-2007, 10:32 AM
The only thing Last Turn needs for a total win condition is Solemn Judgement. There have been a few times my Jowgen got Book of Mooned or a 7 Tools was there. Self Destruct Buttons are more useful in a tournament build Last Turn deck, whereby tying can sometimes be a rly good thing.
emuron
06-22-2007, 10:38 AM
- Reversal Quiz OTK
- RFTDD OTK
- Samurai OTK (even Better with its new support card)
- Painful choice and DMOC OTK when it was legal(Dmoc, Dmoc, DMoc, Prema, - Monster reborn) Summone Dmoc, Reborn Democ reborn democ and <3 opponent)
- Chimeratech OTK (FF/Banisher/DF)
- Magical Mayonette OTK (Elma + Gearfreed)
- Trooper OTK (Trooper, Machine Dup + Limiter)
- Magical Explosion OTK
- Makuyra + Chick the yellow.
- Cold Front OTK - (Merchant, Backs to teh walls, cold wave)
good times, good time.
d.d. ewg
06-22-2007, 10:47 AM
sientist otk was beastly so was stein(even though i played it) but i love the tundo otk it was so fun to use and fun to watch your opponent yusing it then messes up the string and loses.
Snowman Eater
06-22-2007, 10:52 AM
what was Cold Front OTK, never seen that before
Kiriyama
06-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Scientist. As a n00b I cced some guy with scientist otk deck and went to regionals and top8ed. Lol, I cheated alot because I didnt know half the rulings and neither did they. I got dqed in top8 =/
Shawn Sousa
06-22-2007, 11:08 AM
Magical Explosion OTK. IMHO, of course
bu-ultimate
06-22-2007, 11:08 AM
1. Scientist / Turtle (by a mile)
2. Last Turn - Jowgen the Spiritualist
3. Exodia - Manticore / Painful
4. Exodia - Gearfried / Elma / Royal Magical Library
5. Stein
6. Demise
7. DMoC / Dimension Fusion / Spell Economics / Mass Driver
8. Fire Princess / Gearfried / Elma / Spell Absorption
Scientist is by far the nastiest FTK/OTK -- your opponent might not even get a turn.
lordomaticghost
06-22-2007, 03:44 PM
none of them. i hate otks. besides tundo otk and maybe scientist none of the others take any skill to win. a newb could win a tourney with one. especially demise :D
dark ruler newdoria
06-22-2007, 05:13 PM
mexi mill/cyber otk/cookie jar ,stein, and scientist
IceK9
06-22-2007, 07:53 PM
best one is obviously exchange of spirit
just cuz of the "forbidden fruit" effect
but in terms of best OTK it's gotta be scientist
the FIRST OTK was probably manticore exodia
the only FTK that ever saw play was scientist
my personal favourite's gotta be mirage knight otk with a close second for gearfried/elma
Uncle Jinzo
06-22-2007, 07:59 PM
I would have to vote for Overload Fusion/COD. I only pulled it off once,in casual,but it was cool!
necrofear
06-22-2007, 08:32 PM
the jar decks. what were they called? cookie jar? not the best but fun
Crazee Adam
06-22-2007, 08:47 PM
Scientist OTK because you could do it on the first turn making it an FTK where stien you have to wait if you go first.
cane_63106
06-22-2007, 10:37 PM
Scientist because it was pretty consistant from what i remember and could end the game before your opponent could even get their first turn, which sucks so badly.
Psycopathetic
06-22-2007, 11:02 PM
Scientist because it was pretty consistant from what i remember and could end the game before your opponent could even get their first turn, which sucks so badly.
I remember winning over 12 tournaments with a Scientist OTK. I'd have to say it won 90% of the time, there was atleast 5 diffrent ways to win first turn. I then traded the deck for 4 boxes of boosters, and the guy sold the deck to some little kid, who put all these traps and useless cards in. Same week, the banlist comes out.
Scientist FTW.
blastedmagician
06-22-2007, 11:25 PM
theres alot actually
DMOC+Spell ecconomics+MAssdriver+Dimension Fusoion can go off first turn, and thats just the one that comes to mind
I don't consider inconsistent combo decks like that "FTK". Let's compare. The above combo requires Four cards, including 3 spells. If you draw none of the combo cards, FTK isn't gonna go off at all
Scientist, required 2 cards, both highly searchable.
That's why only Scientist reserves the right to be called FTK
Tricky
06-22-2007, 11:33 PM
i actually play trad for fun some times and exchange is better than scientist imo, scientist has too many creatures =\
yes exchange the spirit is a ftk makura or w/e thru monstergate/painful/card d/feather/magical stone =\
Conker184
06-22-2007, 11:38 PM
I never played scientist but from what I hear and see of the deck its probably the best......but imo its the most fun to play a chimeratech otk cause its much more fun to pwn your opponent with 5 really strong machines and massively overkill then it is to launch random stuff off a turtles back.
marhawkman
06-23-2007, 12:01 AM
Last turn decks are pretty evil as well. Sure you can't win during your OWN first turn, but you can win as soon as the next turn starts.
THe ONe PG 16
06-23-2007, 09:47 AM
Mill was so much more fun than scientist or stein, so was last turn
i know everyone liked exchanged of spirit especially when i go first turn future fusion and set my exchange of spirit O_O
Mariodood
06-23-2007, 09:54 AM
I don't consider inconsistent combo decks like that "FTK". Let's compare. The above combo requires Four cards, including 3 spells. If you draw none of the combo cards, FTK isn't gonna go off at all
Scientist, required 2 cards, both highly searchable.
That's why only Scientist reserves the right to be called FTK
IMO any OTK that can go off on the first turn you can play can be called FTK. Magical Scientist is just the best one. Besides, that DMOC FTK is easier to search out then you might think. Instant Fusion + Monster Gate can get out the DMOC, and by then if he's the only monster in your deck, you can get so many spells into the graveyard that you can easily get one of the combo cards into your hand. If you have the other two, that's game. You can also destroy the DMOC with mass driver, revive it, and get another combo piece.
dr strange
06-23-2007, 10:52 AM
I made a 1-2 card refinement to a DMOC-Mass Driver OTK where the first build was done by somebody who goes by Dorkus. I think average turns to win was something like 1.8 or 1.9 so, yah, def an FTK when built right. Props to Dorkus on that one.
Tundo and Cookie Jar decks are killer. And fun. Exchange pretty cool, too.
Scientist is prob best in terms of tournament success while it was legal. But personally I think it's too easy to pull off. The other ones I listed there's normally a little more choice/play decisions involved.
Andrew_Harrington
06-23-2007, 05:46 PM
When you say OTK, do u mean one turn kill or first turn kill? or do u mean them to be two different decks. Cuz FTK is different than OTK. The best FTK is obviously Scientist. And the best OTK is probably Stein, but my personal favorourite was Butterfly Dagger.
Intermezzo
06-23-2007, 05:58 PM
What, no love for the Shapesnatch OTK?
..In all seriousness, Scientist was obviously the best OTK/FTK, but it wasn't any fun to play at all. Same for Stein. I've never been big on OTKs, though.
Ex-Creation
06-23-2007, 07:22 PM
scapegoat OTK ^_^
firegarden
06-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Actually...
ARCHFIEND OF GILFER
Missing the Timing: “Archfiend of Gilfer” is a “when… you can” optional Trigger Effect. This means that “Archfiend of Gilfer” being sent to the Graveyard has to be the very last thing that happened in order to activate its effect.
So, the last thing that happens is that your opponent loses 500 LP. That kid lied.
I personally like DMoC+Mass Driver+Spell Economics+Dimension Fusion... I dunno.
tbert325
06-24-2007, 01:19 AM
scapegoat OTK ^_^
you ever give a scapegoat a mage power, united and a fairy's meteor crush on their scapegoat while royal decree is on the field. O_O
PUNCH YOU IN DA THROAT!!!
tbert325
06-24-2007, 04:23 PM
Scapegoats FTW ^^
nice. i've only pulled it on the second turn.
BLS-Envoy
06-24-2007, 07:45 PM
Scientist isnt OTK. anybody who thinks that is a nub and should quit ygo
Wizard99
06-24-2007, 08:18 PM
I like chimera otk. heavy storm and exiled force to clear the field and then using future and overload fusion to attack for game
Psycopathetic
06-24-2007, 11:03 PM
Scientist isnt OTK. anybody who thinks that is a nub and should quit ygo
Mmm, stroke it.
cowsrule
06-24-2007, 11:04 PM
My Personal Favorite was Cyber Jar Deck Out OTK.
DarkViper
06-25-2007, 01:37 AM
Um. Hello?
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
Lord of D.
Flute of Summoning Dragon
Blue Eyes White Dragon x 2
And if you want to be mean...
United We Stand
GG
dekoichi
06-25-2007, 01:47 AM
I always liked:
Mega Thunderball
Reverse Trap
8 Shooting star bow - ceal
But seriously, I like
Tsukuyomi
Time Seal/ Drop Off
Mask of Darkness
It's not an OTK but it's a lock, and if your opponant has nothing to stop it in their current hand, you will most likely win, unless you deck out or they have monsters that hurt you every turn or you can't deal damage.
Additional Comment:
Or there's always:
Instant Win:
Quickplay Spell card
You win the game. This card may be played in multiples of 12.
grandmastermuka
06-25-2007, 02:09 AM
I use a Uria WTK (Whatever Turn I Kill) that gets more than its fair share of laughs. It stalls to the point of total lockdown, then switches for a nice 8000-18000 sweep.
Yes, I'm maindecking plenty of spell based removal for the you know who's.
Junior
06-25-2007, 02:32 AM
Scientist OTK because it's one of the best.
Demise OTK because I love the strategy and build.
atofis
06-25-2007, 02:32 AM
Ben-Kei...
solid_snake
06-25-2007, 02:33 AM
Last Turn was my fav...was pretty easy to pull.
But wait...Stein got so bad he was a late addition to the bad list...so theres your winner. Stein got so bad he was our first (I think?) card to pop up on the ban list late.
DaKareerKilla
06-25-2007, 05:48 AM
Er, actually, i've found Exchange of the Spirit FTK to be more consistant than Scientist FTK. But then again, you guys might not have seen anything like my build of the deck and I dont post deck lists so yanno :P
Sanbi
06-25-2007, 06:26 AM
Envoy of the End + Sangan OTK
That's my Favorite ;D.
Or maybe Infinite Life Points, or Chimeratech OTK ;D
Junior
06-25-2007, 07:07 AM
There's a Sangan OTK? What's that?
Junea
06-25-2007, 08:03 AM
OTK Harpie's vs. Stein, for me personally.....the guy forgot to put his Stein in defense mode.
senjuwiththepimphand
06-25-2007, 08:06 AM
I've taken a shine to the monarch otk
magical scientist with ultimate offering on the field.
keep paying and sacking until you have enough for the kill
Sanbi
06-25-2007, 02:35 PM
There's a Sangan OTK? What's that?
Glad you asked ;)
Chaos Emporor Dragon + Sangan + Yata-Garasu in Deck ;)
Play Chaos, destroy everything, Sangans effect kicks in. YOu fetch Yata-Garasu for game :P
You all knew about that xD.
hyori
06-25-2007, 03:32 PM
Scientist followed by Stein. Scientist could trigger on the first turn while Stein was battle dependant.
Scientist isnt OTK. anybody who thinks that is a nub and should quit ygo
You're right. It's an FTK. :rolleyes:
wingzrow
06-25-2007, 06:16 PM
First turn cyber jar deck out.
BAM!!!
06-25-2007, 07:34 PM
Personally I like the Tundo OTK simply because of the originality factor...But as for the OTK that has impacted this game more than any other it has to be the Yata-Lock...I hate that damned bird...
Just my 2 cents :D
The 'Biggg' One
Michael B.
uh...yata-lock isn't an otk...its pretty much a mtk...million turn kill
tbert325
06-25-2007, 08:13 PM
Scientist isnt OTK. anybody who thinks that is a nub and should quit ygo
then what is it, if you can't win with it in one turn, besides a FIRST turn kill?
Additional Comment:
Ben-Kei...
my friend adam runs ben Kei. i run a reverse of that deck. it's got him, mataza, maha vailo and amazoness swordswoman in it. ^_^
Rai Kerensky
06-25-2007, 11:57 PM
The most powerful FTK/OTK [yes, one turn kill means you kill in one turn] is Magical Scientist.
Next OTK is Stein, because of it did not have to face Yata and Scientist.
Reversal of Worlds, then Chaos Yata-lock, then the rest just fall down the line.
Magical-Yata
06-26-2007, 12:03 AM
Exchange of the Spirits has never been legal, it was banned before it was even released :(
dekoichi
06-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Ben kei is going to be broken with that new card coming out, broken bamboo sword. Imagine...
Benkei + Broken Bamboo + Broken Bamboo + Broken Bamboo
A four attacking monster? BROKEN!!!
grasshopper
06-26-2007, 04:14 AM
stein ftl...
Junior
06-26-2007, 04:33 AM
Dude.. you mean Stein FTW!
But, DEMISE FT-FEKKING-W!!!
grasshopper
06-26-2007, 04:33 AM
stein is for n00b
Junior
06-26-2007, 04:37 AM
Yeah, true, but it's the best OTK..
If you ask favourite, Demise.
Demise, because it's a 'fair' OTK that can easily be countered.
Chimeratech was my favourite though.
Kilzorz
06-26-2007, 05:33 AM
Can some1 pls explain how the scientist OTK worked.
Can some1 pls explain how the scientist OTK worked.
Special summon Gilasaurus, play Last Will, tribute for Catapul Turtle, search for Scientist, game.
emuron
06-26-2007, 06:02 AM
The greatest OTK in the history of the world has to be when the meterorite hit into the earth. That pretty much OTK all the dinosaurs
Cybernetic Dragon
06-26-2007, 06:23 AM
Scientist. It was the only FTK every made.
no it wasn't... there was the DMOC FTK, and technically the life equilizer was a FTK.
Anyway, scientist otk over stein obviously.
My favorite was the DMOC, cuz it was flexible and versatile.
tbert325
06-26-2007, 10:53 AM
Ben kei is going to be broken with that new card coming out, broken bamboo sword. Imagine...
Benkei + Broken Bamboo + Broken Bamboo + Broken Bamboo
A four attacking monster? BROKEN!!!
what's broken bamboo sword?
Dark-War-Cloud
06-26-2007, 12:30 PM
last turn ftw...
lordomaticghost
06-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Scientist OTK because it's one of the best.
Demise OTK because I love the strategy and build.
....u just said demise has strategy. thats like saying blue eyes is a staple. i dont even know.
I just Created an OTK:
1st Hand cards:
Sangan, Slifer, Obelisk, Ra, Scapegoat, Heavy Storm
Set Sangan and Scapegoat...opponent turn, hope your opponent doesn't attack...in the end of the turn filp scapegoat...
your turn...Draw any card...use heavy storm...tribute 2 scapegoats and sangan for obelisk or slifer, get scientist, summon scientist, pay 1000 life points, special summon any fusion monster, tribute the other 2 scapegoat and the fusion for slifer or obelisk ( depending on the 1st u summoned...), pay 2000 life points and special summon the two most powerful fusions you have, trubute them and scientist for Ra, pay 1000 life points to
destroy any monster on the opponent field with Ra's effect, reduse you life points to 1 to increase Ra's attack...and well...KILL!!!...
Now try to pull that one...
tehpwnerer247
06-26-2007, 07:12 PM
Scientist. Why is this even a question.
Chaos Corps
06-26-2007, 10:03 PM
SC- Scientist-Catapult.
Additional Comment:
I just Created an OTK:
1st Hand cards:
Sangan, Slifer, Obelisk, Ra, Scapegoat, Heavy Storm
Set Sangan and Scapegoat...opponent turn, hope your opponent doesn't attack...in the end of the turn filp scapegoat...
your turn...Draw any card...use heavy storm...tribute 2 scapegoats and sangan for obelisk or slifer, get scientist, summon scientist, pay 1000 life points, special summon any fusion monster, tribute the other 2 scapegoat and the fusion for slifer or obelisk ( depending on the 1st u summoned...), pay 2000 life points and special summon the two most powerful fusions you have, trubute them and scientist for Ra, pay 1000 life points to
destroy any monster on the opponent field with Ra's effect, reduse you life points to 1 to increase Ra's attack...and well...KILL!!!...
Now try to pull that one...
Have fun with that in a tourney buddy, even if god cars WHERE legal, you just pre-meditated everything chances are your opponent will summon cyber dragon, sac for airknight by by sangan and by-by your plan.
Crown_Axe
06-26-2007, 10:20 PM
Exchange of the Spirits has never been legal, it was banned before it was even released :(
WRONG!!!!!!
it was LIMITED before it was released then banned in the following format
ThE JuIcEbOx HeRo
06-26-2007, 11:02 PM
i like Chimeratech OTK personally because it all came in the same pack and it felt cool to do....
Lustrous
06-26-2007, 11:16 PM
Coolest:
Cyber Dragon OTK
Best:
Cyber-Stein
Have fun with that in a tourney buddy, even if god cars WHERE legal, you just pre-meditated everything chances are your opponent will summon cyber dragon, sac for airknight by by sangan and by-by your plan.
LOL not necessarily, if airknight kills sangan, ill get scientist, then ill just have to special summon one more fusion monster...so, try other change, cuz u can't avoid that otk :D xD
Killerofbaal
06-29-2007, 06:00 PM
scientist, because you could win on the first turn.
d.d. ewg
06-29-2007, 06:14 PM
LOL not necessarily, if airknight kills sangan, ill get scientist, then ill just have to special summon one more fusion monster...so, try other change, cuz u can't avoid that otk :D xD
threatning roar ftw?
btw its not even legal.
TylerGardner
06-29-2007, 08:51 PM
Magical Scientist... isn't it obvious??? Nothing else even comes close in my opinion.
TheOtherElric
06-29-2007, 11:50 PM
Scientist = FTW. Stein = OTK. Shapesnatch = "The Greatest OTK Ever"
my brothers mill deck that made finals at worlds 2005
Memo333
06-30-2007, 12:10 AM
Didnt u knew that prodigy kid OTKed 10 duelist in a single blow?.....
He just draw that god card and booom..they were all beaten.....I hope he dont draw that card vs me.....
I always run when I see him comming....
Tundo Otk cause it was fun
Red Ryu
05-13-2008, 07:17 PM
Exchange of the Spirits is the absolute best OTK in existence. No questions asked.
However the greatest OTK is the Shapesnatch OTK. No one can stand up to it's terrifying power. It may even be greater than EotS OTK.
...
What the hell am I smoking, it is the best OTK in existence.
CapitalG
05-13-2008, 07:18 PM
Shadow Preist OHm
Anthem91
05-13-2008, 07:19 PM
i enjoyed last turn oTK's
Jowgen + Last Turn + Wall of Revealing Light :)
Darkest
05-13-2008, 07:19 PM
Demsie OTK !!!
superspecialawesome
05-13-2008, 07:22 PM
The best would be Scientist FTK, my favorite would be the World Lock, there is just something to be said for skipping your opponent's turn unlimited times.
superspecialawesome
05-13-2008, 07:26 PM
The best would be Scientist FTK, my favorite would be the World Lock, there is just something to be said for skipping your opponent's turn unlimited times.
Additional Comment:
Lol, and Kuraz turbo is fun to, reasoning kuraz after like ten spells, sack him for one, prem him for two, arms hole prem for two, arms hole prem for two, arms hole prem for two, mse arms for prem for two, mse arms prem for two, spell rep arms prem for two, spell rep arms prem for two, spell rep arms prem for two, set two explosion, GG anyone? That would be the gayest turn in history.
OneTurnKo_king
05-13-2008, 07:30 PM
what was scientist, i took a break after that card came out, and came in after it got banned? i know everything else
Lone Soldier
05-13-2008, 07:33 PM
DAD Return. Most stable of all of them.
iJustice
05-13-2008, 07:35 PM
Post what you thought was the best OTK! I think it was either scientist or stein.
It's easily Scientist.
Additional Comment:
Shadow Preist OHm
rofl, I guess that's why you're CapitalG.
iNick
05-13-2008, 07:37 PM
;6622473']Scientist obv.
Agin... Yeah!
Saucycarpdog
05-13-2008, 08:26 PM
what is the scientist OTK and how does it work:confused:
SuperSam17
05-13-2008, 08:30 PM
Tundo Otk cause it was fun
Which one? I prefer the royal magical library blasting the ruins/life equalizer one, especially because it actually took skill to pull of.
flame_champion
05-13-2008, 08:35 PM
what is the scientist OTK and how does it work:confused:
really?
magical scientist + catapult turtle = game?
Supremeking_Judai
05-13-2008, 08:43 PM
Demise was like the game-breaking OTK in its time
Informatiken
05-13-2008, 08:44 PM
Scientist.
No competition.
Nuuuuf
05-13-2008, 08:46 PM
Best OTK for it's time, or best OTK period?
The best OTK for it's time period was easily Science Nerd.
However, Exchange of the Spirit FTK is the best in Traditional right now.
Crown_Axe
05-13-2008, 08:48 PM
The ones that are banned
Shadowman724
05-13-2008, 08:49 PM
DDT cause its pro.
Dinner
05-13-2008, 08:58 PM
Scientist was the best OTK because it was an FTK, most of the cards that made it work weren't restricted while it worked, and Scientist was a staple in pretty much every deck for versatility. Stein is a close second because again, it was splashable in every Tier 1 deck, but it definitely doesn't take Scientist's first place standing because it's significantly more expensive for the same effect (minus battle damage and permanency).
Eternal Pain
05-13-2008, 09:04 PM
Exchange of the Spirit FTK.
Sleepyhead`_
05-13-2008, 09:07 PM
personal opinion
DMOC X3 + Painful Choice + Monster Reborn
and others;
Scientist FTK
Demise OTK
Mass Driver + DMOC
Magical Explosion
Geo Stephens
05-13-2008, 09:08 PM
Scientist FTW.
I run it at my traditional tourneys. Its defenally a FTK not an otk. If I don't win first draw, i usally concede to get first draw next game for a guarentted win. Unless I have a good draw, and I still will 95% of the time.
3rd world
05-13-2008, 09:17 PM
Exchange of the Spirit FTK.
Can you give me a deck list? for trad. now?
Scientist FTW.
I run it at my traditional tourneys. Its defenally a FTK not an otk. If I don't win first draw, i usally concede to get first draw next game for a guarentted win. Unless I have a good draw, and I still will 95% of the time.
Deck list please?
Bonjwa
05-13-2008, 09:28 PM
i think future-->overload. if everything was unbanned you would always win with this i think. or scientist.
luialbas85
05-13-2008, 09:30 PM
I Like Stein
panda0045
05-13-2008, 09:40 PM
i always like just seeing decks go off in a turn doesn't matter what it is
Geo Stephens
05-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Why do you need to see a deck list? To netdeck? lol
A scientist deck is easily made if you think about it.
I only have a 4 card diffrence from other scientist FTK's.
Buts thats my secret.
Think Maxamillion Pegasus.
l33tmeatwad
05-13-2008, 10:20 PM
I just Created an OTK:
1st Hand cards:
Sangan, Slifer, Obelisk, Ra, Scapegoat, Heavy Storm
Set Sangan and Scapegoat...opponent turn, hope your opponent doesn't attack...in the end of the turn filp scapegoat...
your turn...Draw any card...use heavy storm...tribute 2 scapegoats and sangan for obelisk or slifer, get scientist, summon scientist, pay 1000 life points, special summon any fusion monster, tribute the other 2 scapegoat and the fusion for slifer or obelisk ( depending on the 1st u summoned...), pay 2000 life points and special summon the two most powerful fusions you have, trubute them and scientist for Ra, pay 1000 life points to
destroy any monster on the opponent field with Ra's effect, reduse you life points to 1 to increase Ra's attack...and well...KILL!!!...
Now try to pull that one...
Even ignoring the fact that the God cards aren't legal, you CANNOT use Scapegoat tokens for tributes for a NORMAL TRIBUTE SUMMON! Your plan failed horribly...
Then again, if you wanna go by the rules listen on Wiki (there are so many God card "rulings" it's not even funny) and consider it a special summon, the special summon is treated as a NORMAL summon, so you cannot summon another one that turn anyways...your plan double fails...
Sword_Stalker
05-13-2008, 10:21 PM
opponent:
return from the different dimension jinzo plus a bunch of other monsters trying to go for game. they attack
i flip over flute of summoning kuriboh, summon, then while it is battle phase, transcendant wings to get winged kuriboh lv 10 for game.
i need to re-create that deck
golden
05-13-2008, 10:21 PM
best: scientist
honorable mention/2nd best: stein
coolest: TundOTK
SilentMagician7
05-13-2008, 10:24 PM
Best: Exchange of the Spirit
Honorable Mention: Scientist
Coolest: Diamond Dude Turbo
Jeflargen72
05-13-2008, 10:53 PM
My favorite was the Troop Dupe Scoop
Dane (whatever)
05-13-2008, 10:59 PM
Magical Explotion for me I made a build that 85% of the times won 1st turn, then i think that scientist otk and then demise
golden
05-13-2008, 10:59 PM
Best: Exchange of the Spirit
Honorable Mention: Scientist
Coolest: Diamond Dude Turbo
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, forgot about exchange of the spirit. Very broken. I say more broken than scientist. Yes, forgot about it. Very true. Exchange takes the prize for best FTK in yugioh history.
The_Dark_Monarch
05-13-2008, 11:02 PM
Who necrofied this from the black hole of Cyberspace?
*see The Evil One's comments* C'est moi.
Geo Stephens
05-13-2008, 11:04 PM
Scientist plain and simple is FTK only. If you can't pull it off first turn, you should scoop.
Exchange isn't always an ftk, it can be, but its likely-ness is extreamly poor compared to Scientist.
DMG Fanatic
05-13-2008, 11:05 PM
This was the greatest OTK in history. Absolutely true story.
I was at either 100 or 200 life points. I had 2 s/t set and one monster set. My opponent had a full field... the only one i remember is Dark Magician of Chaos. My opponent was at 8000. She declared an attack on my face down monster. I activated Transcendent Wings and tributed my face down winged kuriboh, discarded 2 cards, and winged kuriboh lv10 came out. She attemted to activate torrential tribute so i wouldn't be able to destroy her monsters, I chained call of the haunted, brought out Jinzo. Winged Kuriboh LV10's effect then resolved, and the amount she took was EXACTLY 8000. She was so mad. OMG BEST OTK EVA.
golden
05-13-2008, 11:07 PM
This was the greatest OTK in history. Absolutely true story.
I was at either 100 or 200 life points. I had 2 s/t set and one monster set. My opponent had a full field... the only one i remember is Dark Magician of Chaos. My opponent was at 8000. She declared an attack on my face down monster. I activated Transcendent Wings and tributed my face down winged kuriboh, discarded 2 cards, and winged kuriboh lv10 came out. She attemted to activate torrential tribute so i wouldn't be able to destroy her monsters, I chained call of the haunted, brought out Jinzo. Winged Kuriboh LV10's effect then resolved, and the amount she took was EXACTLY 8000. She was so mad. OMG BEST OTK EVA.
Congratulations, you win the following awards:
Best anime inspired move award!
Biggest n00b award!
i_gin
05-13-2008, 11:15 PM
scientist followed by excange of the spirits then ddt
DMG Fanatic
05-13-2008, 11:44 PM
Congratulations, you win the following awards:
Best anime inspired move award!
Biggest n00b award!
hey, i was playing a fun deck at a local tourney. I have a real deck too. I'm notta n00b :(
Dinner
05-14-2008, 01:44 AM
Hey, lol, I just remembered another one that didn't last long... Does anyone remember the Chick the Yellow OTK? :p
King_Max
05-14-2008, 01:56 AM
Demise/stein were the best otk decks. but if you are looking to win on your first turn than obv scientist. but the problem with scientist is that if you take an lp damage at all you lose. or if you lost the die roll and your opponent set: ring torrential, imperial, book of moon or played any prenagator you generally lost.
Snow_Patrol
05-14-2008, 03:23 AM
Anyone read metagame.com's articles? See Erin Diaz's Shadow Priestess of Ohm OTK? It has a 91% win ratio, no ****. Testesd on YVD against DDT, RFGMonarchs, DAD, GLD Beasts, Gadgets, Macro, and Lightsworn (proxying lol). Best deck ever created, and definately one of the better FTK's out there, second to Scientist OTK for coolness, but first in every respect for reliabilaty!
Dark VADOR
05-14-2008, 04:46 AM
I never saw a scientist OTK win. How does it work ?
The best OTK I saw is last turn. Only 3 cards to win.
superspecialawesome
05-14-2008, 04:50 AM
Scientist FTK wins by special summoning Catapult Turtle and Scientist, then you keep using Scientists effect for strong monsters, and sack them.
Ice_ghs
05-14-2008, 04:52 AM
Volcanic misfortune
Additional Comment:
I never saw a scientist OTK win. How does it work ?
The best OTK I saw is last turn. Only 3 cards to win.
Scientist used.
Magical Scientist,Catapult Turtle And alot of life points and 20+ Plus Fusions
So only 2 Cards.
Dark VADOR
05-14-2008, 04:56 AM
Volcanic misfortune
Additional Comment:
Scientist used.
Magical Scientist,Catapult Turtle And alot of life points and 20+ Plus Fusions
So only 2 Cards.
Oh, OK. I think last turn is less difficult to use than scientist, because the turtle is LV5 and you need a good hand.
superspecialawesome
05-14-2008, 04:58 AM
Volcanic misfortune
Additional Comment:
Scientist used.
Magical Scientist,Catapult Turtle And alot of life points and 20+ Plus Fusions
So only 2 Cards.
It only needs seven, but some possibilities are:
# Aqua Dragon
# Dark Balter the Terrible
# Dark Flare Knight
# Dark Blade the Dragon Knight
# Punished Eagle
# Roaring Ocean Snake
# Ryu Senshi
# Sanwitch
# Steam Gyroid
The exact FTK is
1)Special summon Gilisaures
2)Tribute summon Catapult Turtle
3)Activate Last Will
4)Search for Magical Scientist
5)Special summon 2000+ Fusion Monster
6)Sacrifice it for Catapult Turtle
7)Rinse and repeat
-=IF=-
05-14-2008, 05:58 AM
Rescue Cat
Just remembering the looks on my opponent's faced when I'd spring that on them in my first turn. The deck still works, too, although it is a tad inconsistent. Dark Hole and Trunade help the deck a lot. They banned Last Will, but now Monster Reborn is back, which also helps alot. I run mine with 3x Inferno Reckless Summon and 3x Reasoning.
flame_champion
05-14-2008, 07:19 AM
Oh, OK. I think last turn is less difficult to use than scientist, because the turtle is LV5 and you need a good hand.
with the card pool during scientist era, scientist was incredibly easy to pull off...painful choice, reborn, premature, call, pot, graceful...lol.
pizzaman
05-14-2008, 08:09 AM
Scientist FTK, followed close by Dogam Blade Mag. Explosion FTK.
Even though Dogma Blade can be countered, it was super hyped when it came out.
Green Baboon
05-14-2008, 08:43 AM
Stein/Last Trun in a deck was the best cause either you OTK with stein or pay 5000 LP to bring out the last warrior from another planet and play Last Turn
LIGHTSWORNFTW
05-14-2008, 09:01 AM
shapesnatch otk.. yeeea
Geo Stephens
05-14-2008, 11:03 PM
Actually there is no exact ftk with scientist. I have never really pulled it off the same twice.
It is the best cuz it is so versitile.
Literally there are 40 ways to pull off the ftk.
It always doesn't have to be
SS gila
play last will
sac gila for turtle
use last will for scientist
catapult fusions till down 7000 points
catapult turtle(self)
Thats one way, and honestly, that hardly ever happens for me, as i usually never draw a gila and turtle and last will in the opening hand.
The serial spell way, or reasoning/monstergate painful version, or even soldier comes into the mix. Literally, with 3 reloads and 3 magical mallets, you get what you need, and the cards you need are so diffrent, its like poker. Keep whats good, toss the rest till you got something do-able, it always doesn't have to be the royal flush. lol
Additional Comment:
Demise/stein were the best otk decks. but if you are looking to win on your first turn than obv scientist. but the problem with scientist is that if you take an lp damage at all you lose. or if you lost the die roll and your opponent set: ring torrential, imperial, book of moon or played any prenagator you generally lost.
What? lol I think not.
You can take 900 lp damage and still be good. And with running Dark hole, harpies feather duster, and mst, if they set, your still good.
Whoever informed you of that didn't have a well built scientist deck.
Additional Comment:
Additional Comment:
Scientist used.
Magical Scientist,Catapult Turtle And alot of life points and 20+ Plus Fusions
So only 2 Cards.
Also here, you only need 7 fusions, as you can only take 7000 lp before dieing. Maybe More fusions to be safe, but in one turn no one is gonna kill your fusions(most of the time)
x3 Dark Flare Knight
x3 Dark Blade the Dragon Knight
x3 Steam Gyroid
x1 Sandwitch (for flavor)
S'all you need yo.
Maybe you guys need to see a properly build scientist deck lol. Alot of scientist misconceptions here.
Morrison Hotel
05-15-2008, 12:11 AM
scientist
hands down
Geo Stephens
05-15-2008, 12:14 AM
Stein is freaking horrible.
Against me its the worst otk ever.
I have a personal staple i play in ever deck or have in a side in 3's.
Its called Kuriboh.
You playing stein? GG.
ChillyDawg41
05-15-2008, 01:39 AM
1. empty jar...because not many decks go for deck out.
2. chick the yellow OTK
3. scientist/catapult
4. scientist/mirage knight...because the first time i played my friend in an official tournament he set 3 cards, cost down, jinzo. my turn sci/3 dark flare/1 senshi. bash all 3 dark flares, swing with mirage, next mirage he mirror force, i negate, swing with rest for game. :P
5.exchange of the spirit
my first 2 are their because i believe they're the funnest to play. and people get traumatized when they lose to chick the yellow. lol
RoyalGL
05-15-2008, 02:00 AM
I would definitely have to say Air Blade Turbo. We didn't have the opportunity to run it like they did in Japan with 3x Stratos and 3x Gold Sarchophagus, but I had the opportunity to playtest the deck. It was the fastest OTK I have ever played.
Geo Stephens
05-15-2008, 02:13 AM
I wonder which combo produces the most damage?
Is there an infinite damage combo? I know there is an infinite life combo....
Maybe some burn combo, a flipping stealth bird thingy perhaps?
Ergonomic Hero
05-15-2008, 02:19 AM
Uhm.
Scientist.
/thread.
ChillyDawg41
05-15-2008, 02:20 AM
chick the yellow otk, tundo otk, any dmoc/toon cannon/cannon soldier/mass driver, also, gearfried/elma/morale boost/fire princess are all infinite damage combos
Rhinoserious
05-15-2008, 02:34 AM
Updraft OTK.
Turbulence OTK.
Rainbow Neos OTK.
Exchange of the Future OTK.
Arshen
05-15-2008, 03:34 AM
MOKAY MOKAY SMACKDOWN!!!
Yeah i know I spelled that wrong...It was the whole intension.
Not the greatest OTK, but def one of the most fun ones.
Bankotsu the Great
05-15-2008, 03:56 AM
Scientist was best because if it went off first turn, you literally couldn't do anything to stop it. You could in theory Crow the Tundo or counter any attacking otk. But Scientist literally couldn't, and still can't be stopped first turn unless people play Heralds (which only three decks could effective side).
Lone Soldier
05-15-2008, 04:02 AM
Bankotsu, you go to ETC Forums. You get a cookie if you can guess who I am.
Trap Master
05-15-2008, 04:32 AM
Exchange Of The Spirit > Magical Scientist
It's a one-card combo in the right build.
Maybe your view on Scientist would be different if Exchange Of The Spirit would have been legal in the TCG Advanced Format.
horankti
05-15-2008, 06:19 AM
obviously the greatest is scientist.........
but my favorite is stein.........it was beyond broken in the ocg upon it's release.......FTW
Xagor
05-15-2008, 09:20 AM
Woodborg Inpachi or Gate Guardian OTK. Yes those are real.
minetious
05-15-2008, 11:21 AM
i believe the best was a deck based around makyura the destructor. you can deck someone out in one turn. you can also splash last turn in there too.
Clegg
05-15-2008, 11:29 AM
Tundo FTK with Library, Archfiend's Oath, etc. That deck was wicked fun.
... also, it was a true North American creation.
TacoKing
05-15-2008, 11:31 AM
I hated playing against that deck in my local...like watching someone play Solitaire.
Trap Master
05-15-2008, 11:38 AM
Tundo FTK with Library, Archfiend's Oath, etc. That deck was wicked fun.
... also, it was a true North American creation.
How did this work?
Clegg
05-15-2008, 11:58 AM
How did this work?
You draw your deck using cards like Archfiends Oath, Convulsion of Nature, Upstart Goblin etc. You Pay down your life points using Toon World. At the time, you could use 3 Trunade - so you could reset Archfiends Oath's effect, all the while adding counters to RML.
The goal was to have yourself with 8000 less than your opponent and have at least 30 cards in grave, then during standby you activate Blasting the Ruins and chain Life Equalizer.
Trap Master
05-15-2008, 12:02 PM
You draw your deck using cards like Archfiends Oath, Convulsion of Nature, Upstart Goblin etc. You Pay down your life points using Toon World. At the time, you could use 3 Trunade - so you could reset Archfiends Oath's effect, all the while adding counters to RML.
The goal was to have yourself with 8000 less than your opponent and have at least 30 cards in grave, then during standby you activate Blasting the Ruins and chain Life Equalizer.
Thanks.
What hurt this deck? Giant Trunade getting restricted?
Clegg
05-15-2008, 12:05 PM
Thanks.
What hurt this deck? Giant Trunade getting restricted?
Yeah, that's basically it. If we had 3 Trunade the deck would still be viable.
perfecto
05-15-2008, 12:08 PM
yata lock after blowing up the field with CED envoy
yamigoblin
05-15-2008, 12:38 PM
well the best ftk is the one that can win on the first turn (100%) and hasnt been banned yet hmm i dont think it has been made yet but 1 day
The7DeadlySins
05-15-2008, 02:07 PM
Best OTK ever? Well I say Scientist.
Although one that my friend uses which is Ultimate Offering+ Fire Princess+ Spring of Rebirth+ Honest is decent. Basically you summon Princess, Activate Ult. Offer., pay 500, summon Honest, activate Spring, use Honest's effect to return him to your hand, gain 500 from Spring, your opponent takes 500 from Princess, rinse and repeat.
Sobaku
05-15-2008, 02:13 PM
well.. i always liked DDT OTKing ^^
icoolikethat
05-15-2008, 03:12 PM
How did Scientist consistently FTK?
Last will?
My favorite was Demise, it was funny to have someone say "*ugghh* got game??" every time I drew.
If only i ran reckless greed back then, but I was stupid. >.<
Skandranon
05-15-2008, 03:19 PM
not going to read through all these pages to see if someone said this already but Makyra+chick the yellow+call of the haunted+clear field=you just got beat by a coward:p
FTK: Scientist
OTK: Yata
Honorable mentions: Exchange of Spirit and Stein
ownsyou
05-15-2008, 03:31 PM
Scientist was the greatest OTK in history. It was the first time that a deck was revolved around winning on one/first turn, and thus the first turn for the worst for YGO.
Geo Stephens
05-15-2008, 10:11 PM
oh yeah, well duh
infinite life or damage with gearfreed and elma and (insert card and effect here)
those are obvious...
I'm talking a combo without those two lame arsses
Additional Comment:
How did Scientist consistently FTK?
Last will?
My favorite was Demise, it was funny to have someone say "*ugghh* got game??" every time I drew.
If only i ran reckless greed back then, but I was stupid. >.<
Well lots of ways
Last will (gila for turtle, get scientist)
Serial spell (reborn)
gila, summon scientist, monster gate turtle
gila, sac for turtle, reasoning scientist
painful turtle and scientist, reborn and preme both
TTOC Soldier, gila, monster gate both, reasoning, till you get turtle/scientist
there are alot of ways...not just last will. Thats why its so much better, in one deck you have lots of combos that pull off the same combo. Its extreamley versitile.
With x3 reload x3 mallet, graceful, and pot, your gonna get one.
Scientist > Exchange ....in all aspects
raizamonarch
05-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Ohm Otk, Elma, Yata, Scientist.
Geo Stephens
05-15-2008, 10:49 PM
Yata was never and never will be an otk.
Its an unfortunate lock. Purely situational.
And if your playing Yata(trad), surely they are playing Snake. Yata sucks.
DaLilBit
05-16-2008, 07:43 AM
Scientist!! I hate it more than Stein because you don't get a chance to get at their LP before you die. With Stein you could get a shot or two in and maybe make it impossible to use Stein. I remember having Mataza the Zapper and Hayabusa Knight in my deck just so I could swing in for alot should my opponent have a crappy hand. :D In those days The A. Forces and UWS were my anti-Stein. Hmmm...I think I created my Ultimate Baseball Kid Warrior deck due to Stein. *sigh*
The Quiff
05-16-2008, 07:48 AM
Exchange of the Spirit is the most consistent one-turn-kill, if built well. Getting 15 cards into your Graveyard on your first turn is pathetically easy.
Trap Master
05-16-2008, 11:16 AM
Exchange of the Spirit is the most consistent one-turn-kill, if built well. Getting 15 cards into your Graveyard on your first turn is pathetically easy.
Agreed. Exchange Of The Spirit is an example of almost perfect card design (when counting brokenness as a positive factor).
The condition to activate this card helps you to prevent yourself from decking out by this effect. When drawing into Exchange Of The Spirit, all the draw cards will most likely fill the Graveyard, also working towards the activation condition. Specific rulings give you benefits over the opponent: It can place your opponent's entire deck into the Graveyard and card effects that would normally activate when they are sent to the Graveyard don't activate (e. g. Outstanding Dog Marron). Makyura The Destructor not only will help you activating Exchange Of The Spirit from your hand, with him being sent to the Graveyard for his effect, the two cards also work together this way. Paying 1000 Life Points is a pathetically easy cost.
The Trap Card status may have some downsides on its own, but at leasts grants immunity to Imperial Order.
Well, Exchange Of The Spirit is the card that has the ability to OTK on its own.
Random_Hero
05-16-2008, 11:20 AM
Scientist. It was the only FTK every made.
Amm.... What about Exodia! :)
Wu Fu
05-16-2008, 11:49 AM
Exodia FTK. Opponent could kill me xD.
smokin_gunnz
05-16-2008, 12:03 PM
When I began to play Yugioh again (after a long hiatus), me and my friends got beat badly by a Horus/Jinzo lock deck, then this other guy comes in and ***** the horus deck with Stein OTk and since then thats been my favorite otk
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 12:08 PM
well the best ftk is the one that can win on the first turn (100%) and hasnt been banned yet hmm i dont think it has been made yet but 1 day
This is YGO. Just not possible.
SaintDragon
05-16-2008, 12:09 PM
Turbo Jar Mill. Nothing was better to me than when I played this guy using an 80 something card zombie deck VS. my 40 card deck, telling me that I would deck out first and that I couldn't deck him out cuz he ran over 80 cards, then I won because I made him draw 96 cards, and he decked out, couldn't draw, and lost lol. Card Destruction Serial Spell FTW.
Stein Turbo was another favorite of mine.
JacobxIsxLegend
05-16-2008, 12:09 PM
I would say its a tie between scientist and OhmTK.
Stein was pretty good
Although My favorite is chimeratech otk.
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 12:17 PM
OhmTK being as good as scientist, what are you smoking?
JacobxIsxLegend
05-16-2008, 12:21 PM
OhmTK being as good as scientist, what are you smoking?
I don't smoke anything
scientist is just a little better than ohm,but still I say its a close tie
thats just my opinion
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 12:25 PM
*slap*
OHM was seriously inconsistent and had no edge over the Mass Driver decks, which were much better BTW.
scientist was 2-card hyper-searchable FTK, with as many as 5 different pieces subbing in for other, all unlimited.6, if you use OTK instead of FTK.
Only way it could've been faster is by making scientist warrior or plant instead of spellcaster(searchable by circle, tomato, sangan, will, etc.....)
JacobxIsxLegend
05-16-2008, 12:29 PM
I don't think i was inconsistent(while it wasent perfect),
and I already said scientist was good
I just like OhmTK and I think it was one of the best.
Again its my opinion.
If you don't like it,well thast just too bad.
KohanimTCG
05-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Why is this even a question?
Scientist OTK was the fastest and most consistent OTK ever.
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 12:38 PM
Jacob, just test it on YVD.
People have done 20, even 40 duels with it and only get off 1 FTK. Or none at all.
JacobxIsxLegend
05-16-2008, 12:43 PM
Jacob, just test it on YVD.
People have done 20, even 40 duels with it and only get off 1 FTK. Or none at all.
Well then they are playing it wrong
Just drop it
Off topic a little,but has anyone heard of something called bushi otk?
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 12:48 PM
What would that be?
Immortal Bushi in grave, King Tiger Wanghu, CoSR, Exodia in deck?
The ones that are "playing it wrong" are experienced DDT and Royal Magical Libary/Explosion/DMOC loop players.
JacobxIsxLegend
05-16-2008, 12:53 PM
No,something like bushi and oppression and CoSR
I've never seen it
Six_Samurai
05-16-2008, 12:54 PM
Cyber Stein variants.
Feugan
05-16-2008, 12:56 PM
Exchange!
Ah, Maykura the Destructor (Have I spelt that right? lol) sorta came into his own here... Exchange would be immense if Exchange of the Spirit and Maykura weren't banned with all the draw power floating around now-a-days XD
Yeah, Exchange wins for me.
Althought he prize for the most fun would have to go to Tundo :D
Da Jackal
05-16-2008, 01:00 PM
i like to burn with cyberstein. pay 5k get a big monster on the field then ring and barrel behind the door. ok so it's a second turn kill ^_^
Umm... no. The 5000 life points is a cost so you couldn't chain "barrel behind the door". Even if you could, it's not an OTK because it only does 5000 damage, an OTK is 8000.
On topic, Scientist > All OTK's in existence.
Stein was good, didn't like it that much. Yata was far superior to Stein
So yeah... Yata > Stein
Stein was still broken as hell though. It could be splashed into any deck as an alternate win condition. Now days I could've just thrown it into a gadget deck and just summoned it when I found an opening.
Though it would conflict with solemns... If I play solemns first... no one smart plays them early game anyway but still. =/
Additional Comment:
I don't think i was inconsistent(while it wasent perfect),
and I already said scientist was good
I just like OhmTK and I think it was one of the best.
Again its my opinion.
If you don't like it,well thast just too bad.
Ohm OTK was certainly not as good as Scientist and not nearly as consistent...
Marauding_General
05-16-2008, 01:05 PM
CED + Sangan + Yata = Good game..... and is also the best otk ever
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 01:05 PM
It isn't OTK, it is lock.
Marauding_General
05-16-2008, 01:24 PM
It isn't OTK, it is lock.
That lock is basically an OTK becuz they cant do anything about it.
Da Jackal
05-16-2008, 01:26 PM
Exactly, get field presence and keep pushing with Yata... that's GG.
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 01:27 PM
Many things are locks, yet not considered OTKs. Infinite LP is a lock, tehnically, but no-one calls it OTK.
Da Jackal
05-16-2008, 01:28 PM
that's because there's no win condition with LP gain... unlike yata. Which you can. Potentially in one turn. You really can't compare the two. >.>
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 01:41 PM
There are several. Namely Outstanding Dog Maroon,Cockroach Knight Magical Blast(or sth), etc....Cards that return to deck or top of it.
Kaijudo_Kid
05-16-2008, 01:43 PM
Kaiba Control was most obviously the most consistent and amazing OTK ever created. Matt Peddle agrees with me so I win.
Liggy~~
05-16-2008, 01:43 PM
Drawing five pieces of exodia on the first turn. Unbeatable.
Da Jackal
05-16-2008, 01:45 PM
We're talking about consistency here people.
! AGPWN !
05-16-2008, 01:48 PM
Such an old topic.
Skandranon
05-16-2008, 01:49 PM
Black Lotus, Channel, Fireball.......oh this is supposed to be greates OTK in YU-GI-OH History >.<:p
Da Jackal
05-16-2008, 01:53 PM
Let this one die fellas. =/
Trap Master
05-16-2008, 02:39 PM
What would that be?
Immortal Bushi in grave, King Tiger Wanghu, CoSR, Exodia in deck?
Bushi doesn't return if you have monsters on the field.
That lock is basically an OTK becuz they cant do anything about it.
Sinister Serpent anyone?
that's because there's no win condition with LP gain... unlike yata. Which you can. Potentially in one turn. You really can't compare the two. >.>
Deck-Out, Exodia...
Kaiba Control was most obviously the most consistent and amazing OTK ever created. Matt Peddle agrees with me so I win.
What is Kaiba Control?
X-elemental
05-16-2008, 03:00 PM
Trap Master: oh right, my bad. Add swap.
Geo Stephens
05-17-2008, 09:56 AM
Ohmtk Sucks plain and simple.
Yata is not a lock or otk. You said infinite lp has no win condition right? Well thats true but neither does yata. You lock them. If your playing yata, you playing Traditional. And if your playing Trad Everyone are either playing Chaos Control which is pure staples or Scientist. Thats all that plays in a trad tourney on a professional level. So yeah, if they Don't have scientist they Got the Snake, cuz he is in CC. So them getting Snake is an equal chance to you getting Yata.
Yata is fun and stuff but in no way consistent to pull off or in no way an otk.
Thats like saying the Tiger Lock is a consistent OTK.
You fail +1.
anbuscott
05-17-2008, 11:33 AM
well personaly i like deak that are otk but require skill to build not to mention origanality my dark world deck usealy wins my first turn if i go second
Hollistar
05-17-2008, 12:09 PM
Stein .
SuperSam17
05-17-2008, 12:12 PM
Bad reaction to simichoi = most innovative. Best = Scientist
Geo Stephens
05-17-2008, 12:44 PM
i ran a simochi deck. Was my first deck i built actually that wasn't stupid. I used to love white tiger and king of yakimaya. So i made decks with those.....sucked.
How did you otk with smiochi, sure i could win in three or so turns after activation, but whats the otk?
dekoichi
05-17-2008, 12:57 PM
Bad reaction to simichoi = most innovative. Best = Scientist
IMO the most innovative are the infinite LP ones. They aren't TECHNICALLY OTK's, but as long as you have more cards in deck, once you get 1,000,000,000 LP's, you win.
The only one I can think of right now is:
Spring Of Rebirth
Spring of Rebirth
Ultimate Offering
Honest
Little too hard to pull of though.
X-elemental
05-17-2008, 01:26 PM
There is also
Flint Lock
Flint Lock
Morale Boost
Flint
SuperSam17
05-17-2008, 01:44 PM
OTK With simochi is simochi on field 3 gift card thats game. Or 1 gift card 3 paths of destiny. There are a lot. Including upstart goblin and stuff.
dekoichi
05-17-2008, 01:49 PM
There is also
Flint Lock
Flint Lock
Morale Boost
Flint
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I was all excited because I thought mine up, but that's better...
I'd go cry in a corner, but ironically, I actually AM in a round room. lol
Landstar 01
05-17-2008, 01:52 PM
There are 4 highly effective OTKs that have impacted YGO over the years:
Scientist
Yata-Lock
Stein
TundOTK
They've all been killed by the ban list, with VERY good reason. No other OTK has ever been so good as to have impacted the meta such as these 4.
SuperSam17
05-17-2008, 01:53 PM
Which TundOTK? Also the royal magical library one I am rebuilding. :)
X-elemental
05-17-2008, 02:07 PM
I think he meant the original, Trunade-convulsion-Oath-Library one
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I was all excited because I thought mine up, but that's better...
I'd go cry in a corner, but ironically, I actually AM in a round room. lol
ZETSUBOU****A!
Kamikaze101
05-17-2008, 02:12 PM
my favorite ftk is giga plant,
lonefire blossom,
future fusion
dragons mirror,
double summon
cannon soldier
play FF for two blazewing butterflies, then dragons mirror for raptinus, then summon lonefire to search out gigaplant, use gigaplants effect to bring back lone fire tribute for gigaplant activate double summon bring out cannon soldier, GG. ^_^
Lord Bannon
05-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Cyber Jar deckout is definately my favorite OTK. I've only run against it a few times, but it was original, complicated, and when it was all over I just had to shake the guy's hand when he milled all 40 cards in my deck to the grave in a single turn.
Ordyh
05-17-2008, 08:42 PM
Scientist and Stein were by far the best 2 OTK decks.
Rukia X
05-17-2008, 08:49 PM
flying fish otk for the win!!!!!!!!!
RDD, if that was an OTK. Long, legal, and awesome
ownsyou
05-18-2008, 04:49 PM
When I began to play Yugioh again (after a long hiatus), me and my friends got beat badly by a Horus/Jinzo lock deck, then this other guy comes in and ***** the horus deck with Stein OTk and since then thats been my favorite otk
**** that is just toooo funny. The Horus guy must've thought he was some badass beating people with a ****ty deck, then BAM he got put in his place by Stein.
Robert Styles
05-18-2008, 04:51 PM
Scientist
(filler)
Rubinich
05-18-2008, 05:33 PM
1 scientist
2 stein
3 exchanfe of the spirit
4 last turn
rubinich
Da Jackal
05-20-2008, 08:15 PM
First of all "trap master". Exodia and deck out is bad and too inconsistent. Especially in LP gain deck. It sucks, get over it and move on. They couldn't keep their lp long enough to get exodia or for them to deck out. Who's to say they wouldn't deck out first? With the swarm in the meta they aren't fast enough obviously.
Now to move on to this guy.
Ohmtk Sucks plain and simple.
Yata is not a lock or otk. You said infinite lp has no win condition right? Well thats true but neither does yata. You lock them. If your playing yata, you playing Traditional. And if your playing Trad Everyone are either playing Chaos Control which is pure staples or Scientist. Thats all that plays in a trad tourney on a professional level. So yeah, if they Don't have scientist they Got the Snake, cuz he is in CC. So them getting Snake is an equal chance to you getting Yata.
Yata is fun and stuff but in no way consistent to pull off or in no way an otk.
Thats like saying the Tiger Lock is a consistent OTK.
I know ohm otk sucks... yata lock wins if you play it right because you keep inflicting damage obviously. And can still keep up with stein and chaos... it's also much better than Tiger lock, you just can't compare... why do you think it's banned? Yata is also easy to get out...
You fail +1.
Learn better insults... troll. Or at least back them up with some logic instead of blatantly posting random insults. Pojo...
esoteric
05-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Empty Jar beats all by a mile.
Trap Master
05-21-2008, 01:28 AM
First of all "trap master". Exodia and deck out is bad and too inconsistent. Especially in LP gain deck. It sucks, get over it and move on. They couldn't keep their lp long enough to get exodia or for them to deck out. Who's to say they wouldn't deck out first? With the swarm in the meta they aren't fast enough obviously.
You know that you cannot have infinite Life Points, but still LP at an amount your opponent wouldn't be able to touch before they deck-out? Just declare you conduct an infinite Life combo in the triplicate amount of the highest number you can think of, say this numerous times and there are your pseudo-infinite Life Points. And also stall.
Now to move on to this guy.
I know ohm otk sucks... yata lock wins if you play it right because you keep inflicting damage obviously. And can still keep up with stein and chaos... it's also much better than Tiger lock, you just can't compare... why do you think it's banned? Yata is also easy to get out...
Well, the Yata-Lock is indeed very powerful, but it's a bit easy for Sinister Serpent to stop it. That's why Yata isn't invincible.
But Geo Stephen's statement Yata would suck is still exaggerated. Yata's user would still have the advantage and if your Sinister Serpet was in your Deck at the moment of a Yata-Lock, you're screwed.
Empty Jar beats all by a mile.
D. D. Crow in opening hand. U mad?
gremlicon
05-21-2008, 01:33 AM
id have to say scientist but for personal reasons i liked the exodia ftk combo i ran
painful
monster reincarn
2x dark factory of mass production
even if they sent the head to grave it was game
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