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Dakota123
05-31-2007, 05:50 PM
just for fun no tourney(see the ubers and bright powder+double team combo)

ShinySuicune@BrightPowder
Evs:252 Speed,252 Sp.Atk,6 Def
Nature:Timid
Double Team
Ice Fang
Roar
Water Fall

ShinyManaphy@Leftovers
Evs:252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP
Nature:Modest
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Rest
Water Pulse

ShinyLapras@BrightPowder
Evs:252 Hp,252 Sp.Atk,6 Def
Nature:Quiet
Thunder Bolt
Double Team
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump


ShinySwampert@Leftovers
Evs:252 Atk, 252 Hp, 4 Speed
Nature:Adamant
Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Waterfall
Avalanche

ShinyGyarados@Leftovers
Evs:252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
Nature: Adamant
Ice Fang
Stone Egde
Earthquake
Dragon Dance

ShinyKyogre@Leftovers
Evs:252 Sp.Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
Nature:Modest
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Thunder
???

please help and thank you wildace for the outliine

WildAce
05-31-2007, 05:58 PM
Aaah.
Where's Swampert and Starmie????
And Gyarados?????
You can't make a good water team without them.

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 06:01 PM
If it's just for fun, Kyogre is a staple. That perma-Rain is indispensible.

Dakota123
05-31-2007, 06:02 PM
ok kyogre for kingdra and wildace i have my gyarados

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 06:09 PM
Omastar's cool with Rain Dance...so is Ludicolo.

Dakota123
05-31-2007, 06:13 PM
so is manaphy

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 06:17 PM
Indeed...

Kyogre
Manaphy
Gyarados
Swampert
Ludicolo
Starmie/Kingdra/Omastar

Dakota123
05-31-2007, 06:36 PM
maybe i switch the wishcash for swampert and lapras for ludicoolo

Additional Comment:

keeping lapras but loosing the whiscash

WildAce
05-31-2007, 06:45 PM
Like I recommended before (with Kyogre now):

Kyogre
Gyarados (Right ChaosTamer :D)
Swampert
Starmie
Manaphy
Ludicolo (Drop Lapras as it won't help out that much.)

Dakota123
05-31-2007, 06:51 PM
ok but i want my suicune! and i use the ludicoolo

WildAce
05-31-2007, 06:55 PM
ok but i want my suicune! and i use the ludicoolo

Hmm.....Then you can either drop Manaphy for Suicune (dropping a sweeper for a wall of sorts) or Ludicolo (Leech Seeder for a wall).

The others are essential.

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 07:17 PM
Like I recommended before (with Kyogre now):

Kyogre
Gyarados (Right ChaosTamer :D)
Swampert
Starmie
Manaphy
Ludicolo (Drop Lapras as it won't help out that much.)

Gyarados is a sex offender. A [B]registered/B] sex offender.

With Rain Dance, Kingdra is pretty sexy...problem is, its movepool is tiny. But with the right stuff, I think it can be better than Starmie...\

Kingdra@Life Orb/Choice Specs
Modest: 252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 HP (Or more HP?)
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Dragon Pulse
-Something

WildAce
05-31-2007, 07:26 PM
Gyarados is a sex offender. A [B]registered/B] sex offender.

With Rain Dance, Kingdra is pretty sexy...problem is, its movepool is tiny. But with the right stuff, I think it can be better than Starmie...\

Kingdra@Life Orb/Choice Specs
Modest: 252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 HP (Or more HP?)
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Dragon Pulse
-Something

If you wanna go Kingdra, perhaps DragonBREATH???
Sure it's Novelty, but with a 30% Paralysis Chance + STAB, it couldn't hurt (besides, it's not like Dragon Pulse is necessary with Ice Beam on board).

You could go Ballzy and attempt Draco Meteor (pseudo Jumpmence anyone?)

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 07:43 PM
If you wanna go Kingdra, perhaps DragonBREATH???
Sure it's Novelty, but with a 30% Paralysis Chance + STAB, it couldn't hurt (besides, it's not like Dragon Pulse is necessary with Ice Beam on board).

Dragonbreath is a dope idea...Parahax can be pretty ill...

You could go Ballzy and attempt Draco Meteor (pseudo Jumpmence anyone?)

Nah...to not abuse STAB-and-Rain-boosted Hydro Pump is criminal...Maybe as a last resort...



Ace, you are a certified *********!

WildAce
05-31-2007, 07:45 PM
Ace, you are a certified *********!

What was that last Part again....couldn't quite make it out due to the *'s.

BTW:
Hydro Pump / Surf
Ice Beam
DragonBreath
Draco Meteor

If possible, Choice Specs it.

E-Hero Clayman
05-31-2007, 07:47 PM
If you wanna go Kingdra, perhaps DragonBREATH???
Sure it's Novelty, but with a 30% Paralysis Chance + STAB, it couldn't hurt (besides, it's not like Dragon Pulse is necessary with Ice Beam on board).

You could go Ballzy and attempt Draco Meteor (pseudo Jumpmence anyone?)

I'd suggest either Rain Dance (psudeo-agility/Surf power booster) or Signal Beam (which is great on Kingdra but requires a new Horsea to be breed).

WildAce
05-31-2007, 07:48 PM
I'd suggest either Rain Dance (psudeo-agility/Surf power booster) or Signal Beam (which is great on Kingdra but requires a new Horsea to be breed).

Ordinarilly I'd agree, but this is a fun tourney, so the Thread Starter has opted for Kyogre.

Chaostamer
05-31-2007, 07:51 PM
No, I opted for Kyogre. Mr. Threadstarter smartly deferred to my brilliance.

E-Hero Clayman
05-31-2007, 07:53 PM
That works too. :D Regarding Kyogre, you may as well use Thunder, seeing as how it's more powerful than T-Bolt and can't miss during rainfall.

WildAce
05-31-2007, 07:55 PM
No, I opted for Kyogre. Mr. Threadstarter smartly deferred to my brilliance.

Opted AFTER you recommended it....duh:D.

@ E-Hero: his/her whole moveset needs to be somewhat revamped:

Either:

Surf
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Thunder

OR

@ Choice Scarf
Water Spout
Ice Beam
Thunder
Surf

OR

@ Salac Berry
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam / Thunder
Endure

Dark Void
06-01-2007, 05:31 AM
My old rain team on Netbattle was:

Kyogre, Qwilfish, Ludicolo, Kingdra, Kaputops, and Pikachu.

Pikachu was awesome with Thunder and Surf in the Rain @ Light Ball.

The team went 64-3.

WildAce
06-01-2007, 01:01 PM
My old rain team on Netbattle was:

Kyogre, Qwilfish, Ludicolo, Kingdra, Kaputops, and Pikachu.

Pikachu was awesome with Thunder and Surf in the Rain @ Light Ball.

The team went 64-3.

Was it a Modest or Timid Pika?

Dark Void
06-01-2007, 01:52 PM
Was it a Modest or Timid Pika?
I don't remember. I believe Modest.

WildAce
06-01-2007, 02:11 PM
So did 279 Speed actually work out????
That's pretty surprising.