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Wildman94
05-24-2007, 05:06 PM
..... without any knowledge on countering stuff....... and without a lot of knowledge on anything else

Tyranitar@Life Orb
Adamant(- Sp. Atk, + Attack)
252 Atk/44 HP/44 Def/168 Spd
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Crunch

Garchomp@Focus Sash
Hasty(Don't feel like EV Training another one, so don't b**ch around about this...)(- Defense, + Speed)
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Sp. Def
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Swords Dance

Starmie@Choice Specs
Timid(- Attack, + Speed)
252 Spd/252 Sp. Atk/4 HP
Thunderbolt/Psychic/Grass Knot
Surf
Ice Beam
Psychic/Grass Knot/Thundetbolt

Bronzong@Lefties
Relaxed(- Spd, + Defense)
126 Atk/128 Def/252 HP
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Hypnosis
Gyro Ball

Weavile@Choice Band
Jolly(- Sp.Atk, + Speed)
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Pursuit
Brick Break

Electivire@Choice Scarf
Adamant(- Sp.Atk, + Attack)
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
- Thunderpunch
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Near
05-24-2007, 05:13 PM
Read my thread with the threat list.

Tyranitar:
Standard. Stone Edge there.

Garchomp:
Swords Dance

I'd go, with Starmie:
Psychic
Beam
Surf
Rope

Meh. Bolt over Psychic is possible, though.

Bronz@leftovers
Impish
252 HP 136 Defense 126Attack

Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis

Weavile:
-Scissor
+Pursuit/AAce

Wildman94
05-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Read my thread with the threat list.

Tyranitar:
Standard. Stone Edge there.

Garchomp:
Swords Dance

I'd go, with Starmie:
Psychic
Beam
Surf
Rope

Meh. Bolt over Psychic is possible, though.

Bronz@leftovers
Impish
252 HP 136 Defense 126Attack

Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis

Weavile:
-Scissor
+Pursuit/AAce

On Starmie: I wanna keep Bolt, but for now will keep it undecided.
On Bronzong: Then what ability??? Because I think I am leaving Bronzong easily vunerable to Flamethrower if I use that Bronzong with Levitate. Mabye Levitate with more EVs on Sp.Def??? And btw, speaking of, you made an error on the EVs. So I fixed it.
On Weavile: I think I will go with Pursuit, considering the only time I would need Aerial Ace (vs. a fighting type), I'd proly rather switch out Weavile into Starmie.

I agree with Tyranitar and Garchomp though, except I am not sure if I can rely on Stone Edge's accuracy.....

And also, if I wanna have a Special Sweeping electric type as my last poke, what should it be, out of Zapdos, Raikou, or Electivire(I would prolly go mixed with this....)?

Xing*
05-25-2007, 07:03 AM
..... without any knowledge on countering stuff....... and without a lot of knowledge on anything else

Tyranitar@Life Orb
Adamant(- Sp. Atk, + Attack)
252 Atk/128 Speed/128 HP
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Crunch

Garchomp@Focus Sash
Hasty(Don't feel like EV Training another one, so don't b**ch around about this...)(- Defense, + Speed)
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Sp. Def
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Swords Dance

Starmie@Choice Specs
Timid(- Attack, + Speed)
252 Spd/252 Sp. Atk/4 HP
Thunderbolt/Psychic/Grass Knot
Surf
Ice Beam
Psychic/Grass Knot/Thundetbolt

Bronzong@Lefties
Impish(- Sp.Atk, + Defense)
126 Atk/128 Def/252 HP
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Hypnosis
Gyro Ball

Weavile@Choice Band
Jolly(- Sp.Atk, + Speed)
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Pursuit
Brick Break

Will post last one later.....

Wait a minute, that's the Tyranitar I traded you!:p
Tyranitar looks fine. EXcept if it is the one I traded you, these are its EVs: 252 ATK; 44 HP; 44 DEF; 168 SPD.

I don't like Garchomp with Sword Dance, and Hasty Nature, use Fire Blast.

I rather use this Starmie:

Starmie @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SP.ATK; 252 SPD; 4 HP
- Surf
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

IMO Grass Knot isn't needed, it's good against Rock, Ground, and Water, which Surf and Thunderbolt covers.

On Bronzong, I would rather use a Relaxed Nature one for Gyro Ball's sake.

I prefer Aerial Ace over Pursuit on Weavile and Adamant Nature.

Wildman94
05-25-2007, 08:15 AM
Wait a minute, that's the Tyranitar I traded you!:p
Tyranitar looks fine. EXcept if it is the one I traded you, these are its EVs: 252 ATK; 44 HP; 44 DEF; 168 SPD.

I don't like Garchomp with Sword Dance, and Hasty Nature, use Fire Blast.

I rather use this Starmie:

Starmie @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SP.ATK; 252 SPD; 4 HP
- Surf
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

IMO Grass Knot isn't needed, it's good against Rock, Ground, and Water, which Surf and Thunderbolt covers.

On Bronzong, I would rather use a Relaxed Nature one for Gyro Ball's sake.

I prefer Aerial Ace over Pursuit on Weavile and Adamant Nature.

kk. I will change Tyranitar's EVs to match that.

I'd prefer to keep Swords Dance on Chomp so I could get higher Attack, since I have a +Speed nature.....

I agree on Starmie, considering Thunderbolt also hits Flying Types..

How the hell is Relaxed better than Impish on my Bronzong if I am using no Special Attacks -_-??????

I wanna kep Weavile the way it is for now.....

and btw, look at my question that I asked Near and please answer!!!!

Xing*
05-25-2007, 08:22 AM
kk. I will change Tyranitar's EVs to match that.

I'd prefer to keep Swords Dance on Chomp so I could get higher Attack, since I have a +Speed nature.....

I agree on Starmie, considering Thunderbolt also hits Flying Types..

How the hell is Relaxed better than Impish on my Bronzong if I am using no Special Attacks -_-??????

I wanna kep Weavile the way it is for now.....

and btw, look at my question that I asked Near and please answer!!!!

Relaxed Nature boosts Gyro Ball's power. Now Pokemon with craptacular SPD can actually do something with that SPD.

Bronzong's ability - Leviatate[filler]

Electivire[filler]

Electivire @ Life Orb / Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 ATK; 252 SPD; 4 HP
- Thunderbolt / Thunderpunch
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

This moveset covers 13 of 17 types.

Near
05-25-2007, 10:25 AM
On Starmie: I wanna keep Bolt, but for now will keep it undecided.
On Bronzong: Then what ability??? Because I think I am leaving Bronzong easily vunerable to Flamethrower if I use that Bronzong with Levitate. Mabye Levitate with more EVs on Sp.Def??? And btw, speaking of, you made an error on the EVs. So I fixed it.
On Weavile: I think I will go with Pursuit, considering the only time I would need Aerial Ace (vs. a fighting type), I'd proly rather switch out Weavile into Starmie.

I agree with Tyranitar and Garchomp though, except I am not sure if I can rely on Stone Edge's accuracy.....

And also, if I wanna have a Special Sweeping electric type as my last poke, what should it be, out of Zapdos, Raikou, or Electivire(I would prolly go mixed with this....)?

Electivire@Life Orb/Expert Belt
252 HP 192 speed 60HP

Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake

Raikou@Leftovers
Timid
252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 4HP

Substitute
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Calm Mind

Zapdos@Leftovers
Modest
252Sp.Attack 252 Speed 4HP

Thunderbolt
Light Screen
Roost
Ancient Power

Frankly, they're both hard to use without Hidden Power.
Electivire won't work without an Electric lure like Gyarados.

Wildman94
05-25-2007, 05:22 PM
Funch: But doesn;t Gyro Ball's power only depend on your opponent's Speed??? And I will prolly go with that Electivire, except with Thunderpunch.

Xing*
05-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Funch: But doesn;t Gyro Ball's power only depend on your opponent's Speed??? And I will prolly go with that Electivire, except with Thunderpunch.

No, it depends on the difference between your Speed on your opponent's SPD.

Yeah, I would go with Thunderpunch.

Wildman94
05-25-2007, 05:45 PM
No, it depends on the difference between your Speed on your opponent's SPD.

Yeah, I would go with Thunderpunch.

kk. serebii says otherwise, but w/e. Bronzie is now Relaxed.,...

Xing*
05-25-2007, 05:47 PM
kk. serebii says otherwise, but w/e. Bronzie is now Relaxed.,...

Serebii say things to generic. They also say wrong things too.

Example: Earth Power can lower your opponent's SP.DEF, but Serebii says SP.ATK.

Wildman94
05-25-2007, 05:48 PM
Serebii say things to generic. They also say wrong things too.

Example: Earth Power can lower your opponent's SP.DEF, but Serebii says SP.ATK.

kkk. thanks for informing me!