My team... yeah idk if its good or not

[familyguy1491]

Need Help on Abomasnow and ProboPass

Empoleon
Ice Beam
Surf
Drill Peck(This is a maybe)
Rock Slide


Gachomp
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
Earthquake

Abomasnow
Blizzard
Hail
Focus Punch
Substitute

ProboPass
Lock On
Zap Cannon
Stone Edge
Toxic

Leafeon
?
?
Sludge Bomb
Leaf Blade

Lickilcky
Rollout
Power Whip
ThunderBolt
Rock Slide

[Eyesh]

Near is going to give you a LOT of crap for this.

To start off, choose Special or Physical on Each of your Pokemon, and work from there. Use Serebii as a guide.

[Near]

Empoleon:
Drill Peck/Whatever
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot

Gaburaisu - You killed him. Don't look at me.

Earthquake
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast

Abomasnow:
Blizzard
Focus Punch
Grass Knot
Leech Seed

Something like that.

Probopass:
Thunderwave
Thunderbolt
Stealth Rock
Magnet Rise/Toxic/Whatever

Leafeon:
X-Scissor
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Quick Attack

Flygon:
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
U Turn
Earthquake

Otherwise, there's:
Dragonite [still two x4 to ice]
Gyarados
Salamence [see dragonite]
Charizard
Moltres

[familyguy1491]

i just got 2 pokemon that i think you should rethink Near
First is Abosnow
blizzard and focus punch are so inaccurate(focus because of the flinching and blizzard just is inaccurate) that is why i chose grasswhistle/ substitute in order to make sure the chance is higher. And while blizzard is strong its not that good for it only has 5 PP. Which its true is enough if it was always accurate but its not.


2nd Pokemon is Leafeon
I chose the option of doing Sunny Day+Solar Beam+synthesis+Baton to do a lot of combos with it and other pokemon. You can probably guess what it is but if not this is how the combo goes:


Sunny Day is always first
than either synthesis or solar beam times how many times i want to do either one
than baton pass to my charizard that i guess i will use.

I dont know is that good? Or is it to old and I got get with the times and go for what you said.

Also why do you put fire blast in so much? Isn't Flamethrower better?

[Elly]

i just got 2 pokemon that i think you should rethink Near
First is Abosnow
blizzard and focus punch are so inaccurate(focus because of the flinching and blizzard just is inaccurate) that is why i chose grasswhistle/ substitute in order to make sure the chance is higher. And while blizzard is strong its not that good for it only has 5 PP. Which its true is enough if it was always accurate but its not.

Blizzard is 100% accurate in Hail, and Focus Punch is fine unless you are stupid.


2nd Pokemon is Leafeon
I chose the option of doing Sunny Day+Solar Beam+synthesis+Baton to do a lot of combos with it and other pokemon. You can probably guess what it is but if not this is how the combo goes:


Sunny Day is always first
than either synthesis or solar beam times how many times i want to do either one
than baton pass to my charizard that i guess i will use.

I dont know is that good? Or is it to old and I got get with the times and go for what you said.

Also why do you put fire blast in so much? Isn't Flamethrower better?

By the time you do all that, Leafeon is dead and Garchomp/Tyranitar/Heracross just set up and swept your team.

[familyguy1491]

ok how can you be smart with focus punch like give me an example how i can make sure it works always.

[Elly]

You switch Heracross into Tyranitar/Umbreon/Blissey, your opponent must now switch unless they want a Pokemon to get *****, so you Focus Punch while they switch, hitting the switch in without risking the flinch.

There is also SubPunch, but I'll let you figure that one out.

[WaterDragon]

ok how can you be smart with focus punch like give me an example how i can make sure it works always.

When the pokemon is a:
1. Stalling to get stronger type
2. Countering/Tank type

Not to use it:
1. A fast and strong pokemon
2. Just batoned pokemon
3. OHKO pokemon
4. ANY pokemon with decent EV and is strong against it.

[Dragon Rider16]

Also why do you put fire blast in so much? Isn't Flamethrower better?


In accuracy, yes, however, the power of Fire Blast is expected to be used as a 2 turn one hit knock out.

[familyguy1491]

well the point is is that the accuracy just plainly sucks IMO if you want to do a 2hko. though you are right saying that flamethrower usually doesn't cut it.

[Near]

well the point is is that the accuracy just plainly sucks IMO if you want to do a 2hko. though you are right saying that flamethrower usually doesn't cut it.

Blast has 85% chance to hit.
I take it that Megahorn sucks, too, then.

Also, as mentioned, Blast usually takes 1 less hit than flamethrower to ko.
15% chance is not so high for you to miss,
and even if you miss once, you're still equal to flamethrower - will take 3 hits then instead of 2.

Leafeon has 5 weakness.
I DOUBT she has the time to set up something as crappy as Sunnyday.
Solar Beam? She will do almost DOUBLE damage with physical attacks.
Not to mention, Solar beam will need set-up while Leaf Blade can do in that time more damage.

Even over time, in the 5 turns of Sunny Day,
you will get MORE from Leaf Blade [by about 50 or so damage]
due to the set up turn.

Lastly, in those 5 turns, Leaf Blade will, theoretically,
critical once [25% chance] and so it completely outdamages Solar Beam.

And that's not even counting the fact that it's physical,
so it starts off as x2 stronger.

[familyguy1491]

yeah you are right. any other help ful hints?