Gravekeepers

[c0m4t0s3]

help me make this deck more competitive. I hate monarchs, i would like to keep this as original and themed as possible, so please dont suggest monarchs.

Tribute Monsters --2

x2 Gravekeeper's Chief


Non Tribute--17
x3 Spys
x3 spear soldiers
x3 Assailants
x3 Commandant
x2 Mystic Tomato
x1 Sangan
x1 Spirit Reaper
x1 Morphing Jar


Spells--11
x3 Necrovalley
x2 Shrink // Enemy Controller
x1 heavy storm
x1 BoM
x1 Snatch Steal
x1 MST
x2 Smashing Ground


Traps--10

x3 Rite of Spirit
x2 Sakuretsu Armor
x2 Magic Drain
x2 Magicians Circle
x1 Mirror Force
x1 Seven Tools of the Bandit
x1 Ring of Destruction

Total Cards 41

Side Deck: 15
x2 DD Designator
x2 Cursed Seal of Forbidden Spell
x1 Mind Crush
x2 Threatening Roar
x2 Trap Dustshoot
x2 Deck Devastation Virus
x2 Pulling the Rug
x1 Seven Tools of the bandit
x1 Swords of Revealing Light

r/f 4 r/f if requested and link is provided

thanks

[NinjaT]

I'm getting tired, so I'll help some more tomorrow. Right now, I see this:

- Ha Des
- Vortex
- Gravekeepers Guard
- Brain Control
-Giant Trunade
-1 Terraforming

+1 [Monarch]/End of Anubis
+2 Smashing Ground
+1 Gravekeepers Assailant
+2 Mirage Dragon

I don't know why Ha Des is in this deck. Anubis would help contribute to the whole 'no grave for you' thing, but then you wouldn't have rite of spirit. Brain Control and Giant Trunade don't fit this deck (the former needs more tributes, the latter more comboes). GK guard sux, and I don't like 2 terraforming, though you should just move that terraforming to side deck.

Again, Smashing is balanced destruction. Unlike Vortex, it requires no discard, and since 2+ monsters rarely appear, vortex isn't needed. Assailant is one of the best ina GK deck. Finally, Mirage Dragon increases monsters in your monster-lacking deck while providing defense from traps.

I hear a gravekeeper will come out soon that supports gravekeepers by adding 'necrovalley' to the hand. Look for it ^_^

Someone, please check out my deck! http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=414116

[ph34rph4c70r]

Have you thought of a Cat of Ill Omen toolbox for your traps? She seems to be simply amasing in this x3. Tutor cards like her are very rare and she benifits greatly by necrovally being in play.

[A to the J]

+2 smash
+2 tomato
+2 dusts
+1 assailent

-1 judgement (u got drain, plus aint good at 1 I.M.O.)
-1 vortec
-1 mobius
-1 ha des (deck doesnt need tribs)
-1 warrior lady
-2 of anything else u want

those are my fixes and slightly resemble my gk deck yours is good though i give it a 8/10

[[Captain] Mokey]

i agree wit A to J try that an see what happens

[c0m4t0s3]

Ha Des was in here to help with flip monsters. but ive so far - GK Gaurd + Assailant and - 1 terraforming + 1 Smashing

-ha des + Thestalos

but A to J why no DDWL?

do you think shrink would work well in this deck/ what should i take out for it?

[A to the J]

shrink is actually a great idea... keeps monarchs in check. and ddwl just isnt that good .. i mean dont get me wrong its a great card but it might not help all the time i would rather just summon a gravekeeper ya kno

[KennyKhaos]

- 2 Terraforming( Gravekeeper's Commander is better)
+ 2 Gravekeeper's Commander(when it come out)
- Ha Des(not good IMO)
- Gravekeepers Guard( not good IMO)
+ 2 mystic tomato( serchs like every monster)
- 2 Wave Motion Cannon(not deck card if you really want to run it)
+ 2 smashing ground ( must i explain?)
- Nobleman of Crossout( not so good with all the spies teched in)
+ Gravekeepers Assailant( killz monarchs and reaper)
- Solemn Judgement( not good as a single IMO)
+ Deck Devastation Virus( you have alot of targets for it)
- 2 Magic Drain
+ ring of dustruction( must i explain)
+ Sakuretsu Armor ( same as above)


There you go buck-o, will you r/f my deck http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=414441?

[elmerben]

I'm getting tired, so I'll help some more tomorrow. Right now, I see this:

- Ha Des
- Vortex
- Gravekeepers Guard
- Brain Control
-Giant Trunade
-1 Terraforming

+1 [Monarch]/End of Anubis
+2 Smashing Ground
+1 Gravekeepers Assailant
+2 Mirage Dragon

I don't know why Ha Des is in this deck. Anubis would help contribute to the whole 'no grave for you' thing, but then you wouldn't have rite of spirit. Brain Control and Giant Trunade don't fit this deck (the former needs more tributes, the latter more comboes). GK guard sux, and I don't like 2 terraforming, though you should just move that terraforming to side deck.

Again, Smashing is balanced destruction. Unlike Vortex, it requires no discard, and since 2+ monsters rarely appear, vortex isn't needed. Assailant is one of the best ina GK deck. Finally, Mirage Dragon increases monsters in your monster-lacking deck while providing defense from traps.

I hear a gravekeeper will come out soon that supports gravekeepers by adding 'necrovalley' to the hand. Look for it ^_^

Someone, please check out my deck! http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=414116


I agree with this dde but u need 2 chiefs inthere they are awsome!! not affected by necrovalley nd lets u get a gravekeper back from ure graveyard...!:O you could also use a book of moon in here o keep sending bac your opponents monsters to thier hand with one of the gravekeepers effects " i 4get which one" try slotting inanother mobius and 1 zaborg instead of ha des aswell... that all lol:P hope it was some use.:D

[c0m4t0s3]

Did Some fixing so check it out now. All of your suggestions have helped out a ton keep them coming!

R/F for R/F

[ilikepwnpizza10]

PM ameen bahar (the self-proclaimed, but undisputed, best GK player ever) for help about this deck

[vinny01]

Yo wat about putting in gravekeeper chief?

[c0m4t0s3]

GK chief really isnt good. With necrovally out monarchs suicide into him and without necrovally he is a dead draw. Even though he has the ability to get out a GK From the GY, he is totally reliant on necrovally, where as all the other gravekeepers dont need necrovally to be of use.

and i will send a message to ameen bahar, thanks for telling me about him.

Additional Comment:

more suggestions PLZ!

they have all helped a ton

[the $tanfaN]

i dont understand much in gk decks but i guess you can use gk vassal with dark room of nightmares

[c0m4t0s3]

thanks for the suggestion


keep em comin!

[the $tanfaN]

why dont you use spear cretin? summon a monster of your own and eat your opponent's with bottomless trap hole.

[Junior]

I'm pretty bad at GKs.

But I'd say Moby over Thesty.

-1 Wave-Motion Cannon (2 would just slow your deck down)
+1 Pot of Avarice

-1 Spear Soldier
-1 Assailant
+2 Chiefs

-1 Trunade
+1 Heavy Storm (Better)

And that's all I can think of. Thanks for your r/fs.

[c0m4t0s3]

the only reason i dont want avarice is because its effect requires the Graveyard, and if i have necrovalley out then its a dead draw. and i was debating between trunade and heavy but i went with trunade because i can just play my necrovalley i got back instead of it being destroyed.

i agree with Moby being better than Thesty i just need to get another moby now :D

thanks for the fixes

Additional Comment:

anyone else?

Additional Comment:

hmm... not sure what to do with my monarchs

debating between keeping them as Moby and Thesty

or going 2 thestys for hand destruction
or 1 moby and 1 granny, for field versatility
or 2 grannys for just all around versatility

or totally ditching the monarchs for 2 cyber dragons to add speed and field presence.


plz help me with this.

[Kane Draco]

I'd say, choose 2 Mobius for your monarchs, and replace Mystic Tomatoes with 2x Cyber Dragon, as your Spies work well enough, as witnessed by myself in our previous duel. R/F the deck you dueled in my sig. ;)

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah i dueled someone else and realized again that necrovalley voids tomotoes effect. 2 mobys would be good too.

alright thanks for the tips

r/fed your deck

[Phoenix28]

you need some end of anubis in there

[King_Of_Kings]

Don't add watcher's. It's 1000/1000 and when he's on the field you can tribute him to ignore a discard effect activated by your opponent. And his card text says whereby.:D
-Confi
+1 GK Chief.


R/F my monarch.

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah that was a mistype, i meant the Commander when they come out.

Additional Comment:

changed a few things:

-Mystic Tomato
+BTH

- thestalos
+ Mobius

+2 Guards

I took out a tomato because i found i had them in my hand too many times while necrovalley was out. i added BTH for more removal of heavy hitting mosnsters. I found mobius to be better in more situations than thestalos. The guards work really well i like the extra bounce removal.

lmk what you think. it sill needs a little more work.

[Wake]

help me make this deck more competitive

Tribute Monsters --2

x2 Mobius The Frost Monarch // x2 Cyber Dragons

Non Tribute--14
x3 Spys
x3 spear soldiers
x3 Assailants
x2 Guard
x1 Spirit Reaper
x1 Sangan
x1 Mystic Tomato

Spells--14
x3 Necrovalley
x1 Terraforming
x2 Wave Motion Cannon // x2 Shrink
x1 Snatch Steal
x1 Confiscation
x1 Giant Trunade
x1 BoM
x1 Brain Control
x1 MST
x2 Smashing Ground

Traps--12

x3 Rite of Spirit
x2 Sakuretsu Armor
x2 Magic Drain
x1 Dust Tornado
x1 Bottomless Trap Hole
x1 Deck devastation Virus
x1 Mirror Force
x1 Ring of Destruction

Total Cards 42

I plan on adding in x2 Shrink when i get them, i think they will replace the wave motion cannons because even though they lure DT's and MST away from Necrovalley, i think it slows the deck down, and is a horrible topdeck, where as shrink would be a better topdeck.

idk lmk what you guys think

r/f 4 r/f if requested and link is provided

thanks

I have'nt had much exp with a Gravekeeper deck; but as soon as Gravekeeper's Commander comes out I think this deck will do very well. I don't like that there's only 14 monsters though; and Trunade in there with only 14 monsters? I don't like it. I do think shrink is good. It'll protect your spies from the Monarchs such as Mobius.

Also I think Field Barrier will help well when it's released. And with DDV, does'nt the monsters have to have an original atk of 2,000? I would also put a Call in there.

I hope I've helped.:)

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah i cant wait for Commander to come out, but with DDV the atk has to be 2000 not the original atk, i was thinkin of maybe adding another one but im not sure.

im lacking monsters, but i really dont know what else to add. Oh and trunade i have because if necrovalley is down, i can play that, then reset all of my s/t cards, without losing my necrovalley, like heavy storm would do, then i still have cleared my opponents backfield and have nothing to worry about for atk (except for mons) thanks for your help.

[Ghaleonh41]

Interesting that you're not running Magical Dimension or Magician's Circle in this Deck. . . Do you have these cards? If so, try running them if you haven't already. There's not much else I can say, but leave a spot or 2 open for the Spellcasters that search out Necrovalley in Force of the Breaker.

[c0m4t0s3]

actually i dont have those cards but thank you for the suggestion.

and i cant wait for force of breaker to come out so i can get the GK commander :D

[UberNoob3r_Iamnotray]

Heres a list after force of breaker

|20|
|3|Gravekeeper's Spy
|3|Gravekeeper's Assialant
|3|Gravekeeper's Spear Soilder
|2|Cyber Dragon
|2|Mobius the Frost Monarch
|2|Gravekeeper's Commander
|2|Mystic Tomato
|1|Spirirt Reaper
|1|Sangan
|1|Morphing Jar

|12|
|3|NecroValley
|3|Shrink
|3|Smashing Ground
|1|Heavy Storm
|1|Snatch Steal
|1|Book Of Moon

|8|
|3|Sakuretsu Armor
|2|Deck Devastation Virus
|1|Mirror Force
|1|Torrential Tribute
|1|Ring Of Destruction

Best Version IMO. needs a good side so you dont get owned vs monarch , since that is your worst match-up.

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah i was thinkin somethin along the lines of this for my side deck

x3 Threatening Roar
x2 Seven Tools of the Bandit
x2 Pulling the Rug

idk what else but somethin like that

[UberNoob3r_Iamnotray]

yeah i was thinkin somethin along the lines of this for my side deck

x3 Threatening Roar
x2 Seven Tools of the Bandit
x2 Pulling the Rug

idk what else but somethin like that

|2|Threatening Roar
|3|Pulling The Rug
|3|Banisher Of Raidence
|2|D.D Designator
|2|Royal Decree
|1|Confiscation
|1|Mind Crush
|1|Cyber Dragon

That should work i unno test it out

[gambit1977]

try ading a Magic Reflector or 2 to help Protect Necrovalley Thanks for Looking at my Samurai Deck

[c0m4t0s3]

added:

shrinks
Morphing Jar

r/f for r/f

[E-Mage]

Returning:

I would go with Grand Mole over Guard, even if it is only able to be searched through Sangan.

-Brain Control (You might not be able to use it to its full potential)
-2 Magic Drain (I prefer them in the side deck)

+Mystic Tomato (It gives the deck more speed)
+Deck Devastation Virus (I prefer 2 Virii over 1 in a deck with 6 potential targets)

That should leave your deck at 40, I hope I helped.

[Ghaleonh41]

I agree with E-Mage. Grand Mole, while weaker than Guard, is an offensive bounce card, so it would be a good idea to run him instead. Next thing, since this is a Spellcaster Deck, you could definitely benefit from using Magical Dimension and Magician's Circle. Magician's Circle allows you to swarm and that is nasty when you have Necrovalley on the field. So if you get those cards, definitely test them out. And as I said earlier, make sure to leave some room for Gravekeeper's Commander. He may help out better than Terraforming.

[horus master lv8]

I'd Take out:
x2 Magic Drain
x1 Dust Tornado
x1 Deck Devastion Virus

I'd add in:
1x Brain Control
1x Smashing Ground

run 3x CyDragon and 3x Mobius

For more just check out mine.
thanks for the r/f

[c0m4t0s3]

I really need to get 2 more Cydras

thanks for the help !

[rockmann]

dude, put in at least 20 monsters lol, okay,i think you should have 2 guards and play a cannonholder, because its kinda underated, that can win you the game, because most of the time the gravekeeper's have a great field presence, and come on put a chief in there, that helps with the swarm and field presence, use your head, and thx for the rate, i really would've like for you to change it, but w.e., thx anyways, good theme 7/10, dont cookie it up...

[fafnir97]

No GK Guards
No Terraformings
2 GK Commanders when you get them
Magician's Circle
Injection Fairy Lily

I have a GK deck built as well, but I'm not playing it currently, as I have other decks I like better.

[c0m4t0s3]

Thanks for the suggestions. i updated teh list for FOTB, 2 commanders and some other stuff. And i dont like chief so im not putting him in there.

[Zidan-X]

Sorry I'm horrible with GK decks, but... like fafnir I think some Guards would work nicely... 9/10

[c0m4t0s3]

thanks for the suggestion. I had 2 guards in but i found Neo SPacian Grand mole to be more of an offensive bounce card.

[#1AcE iN tHe HoLe]

I Hate Monarch.gk Not Even Gonna R/f It But Take Out Idk What To Say Blahhhhhhhhhh


Magicians Circle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[c0m4t0s3]

thank you that was very helpful.....

Additional Comment:

changed alot of stuff around

any comments?

[silentdrifter08]

looks pretty good, sry i cant be much of a help...

[c0m4t0s3]

np. What would you suggest for the GK Guard, Mole or MJar?

[Marc]

I'd personally go with Morphing Jar in GK. Only because it can provide a much needed refresher of the hand if you're swarming. Plus it can mess the opponent up to an extent.

The deck looks nice. Some suggestions for the side deck.

x1or2 Mobius the Frost Monarch
x1or2 Raiza the Storm Monarch
x1or2 Solemn Judgment

Thanks for the help on my deck. =D

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah i was goin with GK monarch/ cookie cutter, but i got sick of that so i went pure GK. i think Mjar is the better choice as crappy hands are this decks demise. Thanks for the side deck help, those look like some good choices ill have to try it out.

anyone else with suggesions?

[_jsl_]

- Morphing Jar
- B. Trap Hole
+ 2 Magician's Circle

[c0m4t0s3]

hm.... i think i might have to try that. I dont really want to get rid of my morphing jar though :(

thanks for the help.

anyone else

[jewunit69]

Not much to add, other than inserting commanders when they come, and I think you need to squeeze in the magician's circles...

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah im thinking about siding the Deck Devastation viruses, because even though they are good cards, they really only pwnzor gadgets and i think magicians circles will help me more than they will against any other decktype.

[jewunit69]

Yeah, DDVirus is less useful than Circles in your case... I have a GK deck also and I run Magical Dimensions (1 or 2)and i run a couple of different spellcasters... but just like you I can't wait for commander xDxD

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah commander is going to make this deck type so much more competitive than it already is :D

[King Atem]

-1 Rite of Spirit
+1 Torrential Tribute

[c0m4t0s3]

the only opposition to TT that i have is that it kind of kills my swarm by killing all my monsters. and 3 rites i think are a must. thanks though.

[BJocelot]

-1 shrink
+1 sangan

sangan is awesome in gravekeeper's i think. it can get you any of your monsters except commandant and chief.

[c0m4t0s3]

okay thanks, ill have to playtest that.

anyone else?

by the way, the first verse is my favorite bible verse.

Additional Comment:

anyone got any suggestions?

[moonshoes]

wow, this is a very nice looking gk deck. I think 1 Gk guard is a very good idea for this deck. It has great defense, and it can send a monster back to your opponents hand. This decktype hates big monsters, so that is a very good reason to run one. Oh, and I hate chief...a lot. run 1 AT MOST. I would take them out entirely for a guard and a jinzo, since jinzo allows you to swing freely. 2 cyber dragons would add some stability to this deck, since it tends to topdeck quickly.

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah. Chief, im not too fond of myself either. I was running monarchs for tributes but i didnt like them because of all the monarch decks out their so i went for straight up GK. I think ill try only 1 chief and 2 cydras, or maybe just 2 cydras.

with jinzo i think he might clash with teh amount of traps i have.

thanks for the fixes.

[moutjuh!]

18 Monsters
x2 Mobius the Frost Monarch
x3 GK Spy
x3 GK Assailant
x3 GK Commander
x3 Hydrogeddon
x2 Legendary Jujitsu Master -> use these instead of GK Guard
x1 Morphing Jar
x1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole

14 Spells
x3 Necrovalley
x2 Shrink
x3 Smashing Ground
x1 Book of Moon
x1 Snatch Steal
x1 Confiscation
x1 Heavy Storm
x1 Mystical Space Typhoon
x1 Pot of Avarice

10 Traps
x2 Dust Tornado
x2 Rite of Spirit
x3 Sakuretsu Armor
x1 Mirror Force
x1 Ring of Destruction
x1 Torrential Tribute

Try this; I haven't playtested the GK Commander yet, but I think that 2 of them are enough.
You don't need Cyber Dragon unless you want to run a Monarch-Hybrid. Then the line-up is like:

-3 Monarchs
-2 Cyber Dragon
-1 Brain Control
-1 Snatch Steal

Don't use Jinzo; he's crap. You can't bring him back from the graveyard. Use Dust Tornado's instead; they work very good. You can even max out both Shrink and Dust Tornado for maximum effect.

[Conan415]

its not cammander, it is commandant, and he is an earth, i have 3, sneak peak.

[c0m4t0s3]

anyone got anything.

[Blackheart3200]

help me make this deck more competitive

Tribute Monsters --2

x2 Gravekeeper's Chief

Non Tribute--16
x3 Spys
x3 spear soldiers
x3 Assailants
x3 Commander
x2 Mystic Tomato
x1 Spirit Reaper
x1 Morphing Jar

Spells--12
x3 Necrovalley
x2 Shrink
x1 Swords
x1 heavy storm
x1 BoM
x1 Brain Control
x1 MST
x2 Smashing Ground


Traps--12

x3 Rite of Spirit
x2 Sakuretsu Armor
x2 Magic Drain
x1 Bottomless Trap Hole
x2 Magicians Circle
x1 Mirror Force
x1 Ring of Destruction

Total Cards 42

Side Deck: 15
x2 DD Designator
x2 Cursed Seal of Forbidden Spell
x1 Mind Crush
x3 waboku
x2 Solemn Judgement
x2 Deck Devastation Virus
x3 Pulling the Rug


r/f 4 r/f if requested and link is provided

thanks



monsters look good tho i prefer 1 jinzo and 1 mobius in my gravekeepers...

magic look solid

problem i see are the traps...

i'm the kind of person that think that having a lot of traps is bad and potential top decks are bad. plus i like 40 cards so i would say

-2 magic drain
-1 bottemless
-1 saku armor
+1 deck devastation virus/solemn judgement/ smashing
+1 deck devastation virus/solemn/smashing

deck devastation virus is dangerous; I would run 1 if I were you.

[SKAK]

-brain
+shrink

[c0m4t0s3]

its not cammander, it is commandant, and he is an earth, i have 3, sneak peak.

plz dont spam my thread like this. no body honestly cares.

anyways

thanks for the fixes.

moutjuh: i dont like monarch hybrid stuff, so i dont think ill add the mobiuses or hydrogeddons. but i will try the jujistu masters.

Blackhear: i really like magic drain so i think ill try to keep it, and as far as DDV goes i think im either gonna run 2 and switch between them and magicians circles. thanks for the help.

Additional Comment:

im having a tough time deciding whether or not i want to play magicians Circles or Deck Devastation Viruses.

The Circles help with the swarming (and can get out chief)

but the DDV: ravages tribute monsters, and searchers, in hand and on the field.

any suggestions with this?

also i feel my spells might need a little tweaking. i think the monster lineup is good though

[jewunit69]

Hmm, don't run Jinzo, ever... with your Magician's Circles and Magic Drain AND Rite of Spirit, its a no-go. If you're that desperate for traps like sak armor or mirror rofrce put a mirage dragon.
Also, I don't think jujitsu goes well in there, if you want removal from the field (which I think isn't necessary with Assailant because you can switch pos. to a low ATK/DEF) then if you want removal put Guards instead of Jujitsu... Jujitsu they must Attack him, and guards are GK's and FLIP.
Also, I suggest:
-2(or 1) GK Chief
+2 Cydras
-1 Brain Control
+1 Smashing or Snatch Steal

[c0m4t0s3]

i dont have a jinzo in there.

I think Guard would be a better choice, seeing he is flip and jujistu isnt, i thought maybe jujistu because he killed monsters, instead of returning them.

i dont really like Cydras, so i dont know if ill add them ( maybe 1)

why snatch instead of brain?


what do you think about DDV vs Magicians Circle?

[jewunit69]

Well snatch lasts forever and if your using the monster as a tribute you don't pay life points...
And yeah cydras aren't a must, seeing as they dont get necrovalley benefits, although they are usually a free summon.. but seeing as you have alot of field prescence (with rite of spirits too) maybe cydras aren't the best option.

DDV=Defensive
Circle=Offensive

Circle brings more monsters during one battlephase, which generally they will be used to attack directly for big damage, it is definately a powerful card. Although DDV is LOSING a monster (tribute) to destroy <1500 ATK monsters, and vision of opponent's hand... I don't think this contributes as much to the offensive vibe of this deck, and (like you said) only really good against other GK decks or gadgets, etc.
I'd stick with circles.

-3 Assailant
+3 GK Curse

[BusterAsh316]

side the jinzo, and run the commandant in par with the field. as for the side, ddv should be there along with 2 pulling the rug.

[c0m4t0s3]

yeah magicians circles are sweet, they are just so goddamn hard to get.

buster: first off by saying 'the jinzo' you make it sound like there is a jinzo in my deck which there is not because that would be stupid with how many traps i have. secondly im not going to add a jinzo because of how many traps i have. and if you read my side deck there are already DDV and pulling the rug in there.

thanks for the help..

[BlackLusterSoldier20]

Men, i can believe it. Gravekeeper deck again. I already seen Gracekeeper deck for the past one week. that deck almost screw up my Gadget deck. just necrovalley that i can't use my overload fusion.

[c0m4t0s3]

thanks for the comment

anyone have any suggestions, comments, criticizm?

[jewunit69]

Hmm...
-1 GK Guard
-1 Brain Control

+1 Snatch Steal
+1 Seven Tools of the Bandit

Because GK Guard doesn't really shine, and wouldn't you rather a spy/spearsoldier/assailant/commandant... Also Brain Control takes precious LP!!! And if you are taking the monster solely to tribute him for a Chief, then Snatch will give your opponent NO LP and if you are taking contorl of the monster to use, well then snatch keeps him forever, and the monster probably will be dealing damage to lifepoints when you snatch him.

I would also side 2 Seven Tools of the Bandit to make your side deck of 13 -> 15.
They are necessary because after playing someone they're probably goign to side cursed seal forbidden spell against you, and if they use that on your necrovalley, you pretty much lose the duel. You will want the Tools to protect you from that, and also to protect you if they are running Decrees...
Another option is Solemn Judgements but I find they're costly. Half LP :O

[c0m4t0s3]

thanks your suggestions do make sense, but i feel im a little low on monsters.

deck updated.

Additional Comment:

fixes anyone?

Additional Comment:

anyone got any suggestions? plz....

[nickis1337]

econ > shrink econ can be used even when u dont have a monster

[c0m4t0s3]

hmm... i never thought of it that way.

ill have to try that out. i just need to get my hands on 2 econs now.

thanks for the fix

[Mariodood]

Hey since you're running low on monsters, you can try what I did. I put 2 Newdoria in my GK deck, they're searchable by tomato and can help get rid of the opponents big monsters.

[c0m4t0s3]

hmm... okay ill have to try that out.

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[nickis1337]

np can u check my hero deck in my sig no 1 else will look at it lol

[c0m4t0s3]

sure, but i dont know much about them.

anyone else got suggetions?

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fixes anyone?

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bump........

[kokujin ballin]

there's a quickplay magic that allows u 2 tribute one spellcaster on the field to special summon one from your hand, then destroy one monster on the field. Find it, and put it in your deck.

[c0m4t0s3]

isnt that magical dimension? thanks ill have to take a look at that.

[nickis1337]

magical dimension is bad dont play it

[c0m4t0s3]

i have way too many traps to run a jinzo. and yeah magical dimension isnt that great.

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.....b.u.m.p......

[chaosmage100]

3 Gravekeeper's Commandant would help you get necrovalley out alot faster

This is my build of Gravekeeper's
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=581379