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siQness
03-07-2007, 09:49 AM
Salamence (M) @ Lum Berry ** Sadament
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Parsley
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 104 Spd / 106 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** EggNog
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** HeartAche
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** CoughDrop
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Lax Nature (+Def, -SDef)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Volt
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Any advice would be helpful. My team has a difficult time against celebi and gengar. I'm thinking about dugtrio, but i don't know what to take out for it.

chaosmage
03-07-2007, 11:11 AM
Salamence:
Drop HP Rock for Flying, and give it either Rock Slide, Brick Break, or Fire Blast to hurt Skarm.

Venusaur:
Standard, but it works. No real fixes here.

Blissey:
If your using Ice beam, give it a Modest nature and drop some of you Hp EV's for SpAtk EV's. It's not like Blissey is lacking HP.

Milotic:
Drop some of it's Def for SpDef. Marvel scale will put you up to a good number anyway and Water is only weak to special. No other fixes.

Weezing:
As with Venusaur it's standard, but it will work just fine.

Zapdos:
If Celebi give you problems then drop either Thunder Wave or Substitute for Drill Peck, and pump a few EV's into attack. That should take care of the stupid thing.

Hope that helps.

Near
03-07-2007, 11:28 AM
Venusaur.. can counter Celebi easily.
Drop those useless attack and Speed EVs.

He can easily punish her with a Sludge bomb or force a switch,
and counter her Seed.

I don't have a way to calculate her Psychic damage, but from experience, he can fend her off.

Synthesis is meh.

siQness
03-07-2007, 12:48 PM
Near: Celebi kills my Venasaur in 2 psychics, and is usually faster than me.

Chaos mage: those fixes look pretty good. i'm gonna try drill peck on zapdos, but that makes my team more prone to swampert

Elly
03-07-2007, 01:04 PM
Venusaur.. can counter Celebi easily.
Drop those useless attack and Speed EVs.

He can easily punish her with a Sludge bomb or force a switch,
and counter her Seed.

I don't have a way to calculate her Psychic damage, but from experience, he can fend her off.

Synthesis is meh.



Sludge Bomb is neutral on Celery's base 100 Def. The only thing Saur can do is absorb Seed then run. This is assuming you don't run Max Hp/SDef, which would still probably not save you for long enough.

darkdragon81
03-07-2007, 05:28 PM
if ur having problems with celebi, change weezing to skarmory and dd mence to cb mence

Venny
03-07-2007, 07:41 PM
Drop weezing for dugtrio if you want to include him. Milotic should be capable of physical walling if you give her a +Def nature, and salamence already can block fighting/bug attacks.

Make it an adament dugtrio, to ensure that you hit celebi as hard as possible.

Elly
03-07-2007, 07:43 PM
Or he could just give Mence HP Bug.

siQness
03-07-2007, 07:48 PM
Drop weezing for dugtrio if you want to include him. Milotic should be capable of physical walling if you give her a +Def nature, and salamence already can block fighting/bug attacks.

Make it an adament dugtrio, to ensure that you hit celebi as hard as possible.

Yea I was thinking about dropping weezing for dugtrio, but then any physical sweeper would put a dent in my team. I'm thinking about just dropping the salamence for it

Elly
03-07-2007, 07:49 PM
Or he could just give Mence HP Bug.

=/

Just drop Saur, since he isn't doing a whole lot for you.

reapsoul964
03-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Salamence (M) @ Lum Berry ** Sadament
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

NEEDS some speed. I usually max speed and attack... but 394 HP is hard to pass up sometimes... otherwise, whatever. This is really... standard... and HP: Rock is weird, cuz you've got Rock Slide there if you need it... I prefer Elemence over DDMence, but this works all right. 6/10 cuz a slow salamence is a dead salamence.

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Parsley
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 104 Spd / 106 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis

Ok. Don't know how to help here.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** EggNog
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

*skipping*

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** HeartAche
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf

Less HP, more SAtk. 6/10... for not using a Bold nature. Sorry >_< I don't mean to be, well, mean.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** CoughDrop
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Lax Nature (+Def, -SDef)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

*skipping* oh wait... please... +Def, -SAtk. You don't have any special attacking moves... and always go +Def, -Spd over +Def, -SDef, unless the pokemon has utterly no special defense.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Volt
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

300 speed is all you need. max out special attack, and put the rest into HP. HP: Ice is always a fun choice as well, just choose what suits you best. 8/10

Any advice would be helpful. My team has a difficult time against celebi and gengar. I'm thinking about dugtrio, but i don't know what to take out for it.

The individual pokemon ratings don't really count as the rating for the team. My rating would be 6 or 7.

Gengar is incredibly easy for me to beat... with a 176 speed Metagross. You've just gotta send in the right pokemon, pretty much. You don't have a fast sweeper though, so I can understand. Maybe get a fast pokemon with Shadow Ball or Psychic-that'll take care of Gengar.

Celebi-everyone has trouble against that stupid wannabe pokemon. Sludge Bomb, my friend. Sludge Bomb.

If you wanna put in Dugtrio, go on ahead and take out Weezing or Blissey. Please(I hate those two, hated em both when I tried em, and their weaknesses are devastating, they can hurt the team more than help it depending on who you're facing...). Heh.