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WildAce
02-28-2007, 02:41 PM
Hey all, been away for a while due to personal matters (car wreck), and had some down time to think about an UBER team.

Anyways, here it is:

Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

My starter + Special Sweeper. Completely pwns Kyogre and Groudon Starters. Can take atleast 1 hit from an Ice Beam (granted Calm Mind was used atleast once), and can then dish out major pain.

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover

My Lady Lati. Dragon Claw + HP Fire = Zero Resistances! Calm Mind + Recover (+ Soul Dew) = Special WALL.

Kyogre @ Salac Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 196 HP / 200 Spd / 112 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Endure
- Ice Beam
- Surf

My special variant of Kyogre. NO THUNDER! Instead, Endure + Salac = 399 Speed. (Take that Deoxys-F.) Anyways, after 1-3 Calm Minds, it is unstoppable!!!!!!...(barring Extremespeed.)

Groudon @ Salac Berry
Trait: Drought
EVs: 112 Atk / 200 Spd / 196 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Swords Dance

My "unique" variant of Groudon. Though Drought conflicts with Latios' Thunder, it boosts Latias' Hidden Power. It's kinda hard to bring in, but if it can pull off just 1 Swords Dance then Endure (barring Extremespeed), GG.

Deoxys-F @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Hyper Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute

Another special variant of Deoxys-F. Liechi Berry over Choice Band combined with Substitute gives me the same power + Freedom of motion. You may have noticed HYPER BEAM. Ordinarily I wouldn't use it, but after the Liechi Boost, Hyper Beam can OHKO a Standard Groudon and Kyogre (and probably just about anything that is not resistant to Normal Attacks).

Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 96 Spd / 252 SAtk / 160 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Ice Beam
- Recover

I tried out Taunt Mewtwo, didn't like it, so switched over to HP Dark mewtwo. Pretty self-explanotory. I decided to give it Sp. DEF EV's because HP EV's aren't going to help me by enough to save me from Physical attacks anyway...so 256 Sp. DEF. Ice Beam + HP Dark = massive UBER PWNage (except for maybe Kyogre and Ho-Oh).

It's not really THAT standard, but I think it will get the job done.
Waddayathink?

Additional Comment:

Aww, come on...PLEASE!!!!
-BUMP-

Mr.Missingno
02-28-2007, 04:04 PM
Latios-take out thunder for thunderbolt.almost never misses.

latias-hidden power is an ehh move.maybe replace with a flying attack

groundon-like i said,hidden power is ehhh.replace with flamethrower

deoxys-replace hiddenpower with a psychic attack.same for mew2.

hope this helps!

WildAce
02-28-2007, 04:18 PM
Latios-take out thunder for thunderbolt.almost never misses.

latias-hidden power is an ehh move.maybe replace with a flying attack

groundon-like i said,hidden power is ehhh.replace with flamethrower

deoxys-replace hiddenpower with a psychic attack.same for mew2.

hope this helps!


WHAT THE HELL?!?

Thunder can OHKO standard Kyogre (and is necessary since this team has trouble dealing with it).
Hidden Power ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember this is on Netbattle, not IN-GAME.
Adamant Groudon w/ Flamethrower? Uhhh, no. This guy can OHKO almost anything after one Swords Dance. No need to use fire attacks.
Hidden Power again kicks major @$$. Psychic SUX in Uber gameplay.

darkdragon81
02-28-2007, 05:20 PM
the only thing i see is hyper beam is not really a good idea because you are using a liechi berry on deoxys. it leaves it susceptable the next turn, and will die to almost any attack

WildAce
02-28-2007, 06:03 PM
Well the thing is this:
Deoxys-F can't even take a single hit.
Shadow Ball can OHKO most any Psychic PKMN (except maybe Lugia) and is stronger on Psychics than Hyper Beam is (especially after the Liechi boost).

However, SB can not OHKO Rayquaze, Kyogre, Groudon, and Ho-Oh...but HYPER BEAM CAN!!!!!!! And that's the whole point of it. Sub down to get the Liechi boost, and either Shadow Ball or Hyper Beam for a OHKO. If it dies next turn, who cares, it would have died anyway if it couldn't OHKO.

So the way I see it is:
Either do massive damage and then die
OR
OHKO them, and then get KOed next turn.
I'll choose the latter.

Venny
02-28-2007, 09:14 PM
Well the thing is this:
Deoxys-F can't even take a single hit.
Shadow Ball can OHKO most any Psychic PKMN (except maybe Lugia) and is stronger on Psychics than Hyper Beam is (especially after the Liechi boost).

However, SB can not OHKO Rayquaze, Kyogre, Groudon, and Ho-Oh...but HYPER BEAM CAN!!!!!!! And that's the whole point of it. Sub down to get the Liechi boost, and either Shadow Ball or Hyper Beam for a OHKO. If it dies next turn, who cares, it would have died anyway if it couldn't OHKO.

So the way I see it is:
Either do massive damage and then die
OR
OHKO them, and then get KOed next turn.
I'll choose the latter.

I suppose hyper beam is acceptable in this situation. If the opponent trys to get in a calm mind on your recharge turn, you can just KO them on the next turn, so they would be forced to KO you.

WildAce
03-01-2007, 07:05 PM
I suppose hyper beam is acceptable in this situation. If the opponent trys to get in a calm mind on your recharge turn, you can just KO them on the next turn, so they would be forced to KO you.

Bingo, you got it.
With this set-up, Hyper Beam is indeed Usable (and is preferable to Double-Edge because the Recoil would have KOed me anyways and it does less damage).

Additional Comment:

So what, is this a PERFECT team? I don't see any fixes so it must be.
-BUMP- for the last time.

chaosmage
03-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Maybe lose Groudon for Metagross or Jirachi? They some nice resistances and their immunitey to Toxic means they can wall out Lugia who might give this team a bit of a problem. Also, they don't conflict with Kyogre.

WildAce
03-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Maybe lose Groudon for Metagross or Jirachi? They some nice resistances and their immunitey to Toxic means they can wall out Lugia who might give this team a bit of a problem. Also, they don't conflict with Kyogre.

I think Toxic or Whirlwind Lugia may indeed give this team some problems (since all my guys rely on some sort of power up in order to sweep). Though, my Deoxys can deal about 55% damage to Lugia even without it's Liechi Boost.

I definitely think that Groudon is the weak link in this team, just because it can't really switch into anything.

Jirachi is too damn fragile to survive even a Thunderbolt from a CM SD Latios.
Metagross may work, but once again, Thunderbolt or Kyogre's CM Surf = KO.

I was thinking about a Lugia, but can't decide on the EV Spread:

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 216 HP / 16 Def / 252 SAtk / 24 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover
- Thunder Wave

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover
- Thunder Wave

Anyways, let me know. Thanks.


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