Should Refs from other Pojo forums count as MTG Refs here?

[Secret Squirrel]

Ok, we've decided that we want to enforce a variation of the ref rule here (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=21600). Next question is should we allow refs from our Yugioh trade list, DBZ list, VS list, and DM list to count towards the ref rule?

Vote now!

Edit: You all might find this to be interesting reading when preparing your arguments.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=32176

[Jlngbsb14]

Ok... I can understand the whole "No refs from other forums" thing... But Pojo is Pojo, and I believe that all of Pojo should basically have one big good/bad list... Where the refs for one guy count as refs for all the forums.... Basically what I'm sayin is that refs for one Pojo forum should count for refs for another Pojo forum, but no refs can be counted that aren't and weren't obtained by other Pojo members.

I mean, you make a name in the MTG forum and it works in the YGO forum... Why can't refs do the same?

[m4rine]

yes i agree - 'Refs' should be for Pojo's whole board - a good trader is a good trader, whether they are trading YGO, MTG or anything.

[NarutoChamp]

I agree with m4rine. Why not count refs as a whole on the whole board? It seems fair enough.

[Gowyn]

Making one ref board for the entire forum may encourage more trading in the smaller forums. In the YGO, trades happen almost non-stop, because there are a lot of people there who have built up a ref base. In the MTG forum, there are like ten people with refs...

On the other hand, this may also encourage more ripping. People with a lot of refs from the other sections of the board could potentially come over to this forum and rip someone off for a lot of money, as some MTG cards are valued in the hundreds of dollars. While this is unlikely, its still possible.

However, I voted yes, because I feel that that way I won't have to send first to people on this board who have 1 ref when I've got several in the YGO forum, and thus lessen the possibility of being ripped.

[x0x shadowspell x0x]

If the ratios are designated, I see no problem.
Username ~ 5:Mtg 3:YGO 0:VS 1:DM

[Lich123]

Honestly I doubt it would do much good. If they are in one forum odds are they wont have many cards from the other games. Also a combined good trader//bad trader list would be riddiculuous. As it is the Yu-Gi-Oh list is long enough, if the list were combined from all forums it would be very easy to overlook a bad trader, never mind being downright inconveniant. If you are trading with someone from another forum I see no reason why they cannot simply send you a link to their good list//refs page. I think combining would just be a waste of time and more inconveiniant. Because when it comes right down to it, its really how much you trust the person you are trading with. If they can gain your trust, trade, if you are doubtful, don't.

[Jlngbsb14]

Well I didn't mean literally make one big ref list... I simply meant that if you have, say, like me, 23 refs in the YGO forum, then pick up MTG(as I did this past Saturday), and start trading in the MTG forum, then whats the point of starting completely over? I mean, you've proven your worth(isn't that all refs are?)....

And the whole getting refs in YGO to come rip people in MTG thing... Well, yes, I agree this is a possiblity. But isn't it also a possibility for someone to stack up some refs in the YGO forum and then rip people in the YGO forum? Its the same concept. Thats why the rule is so strictly enforced in the YGO forum... Because there are so many there, it is greatly watched by all the mods because rippers can come in and swipe and run at any moment... Not only the mods, but others, also. I try my best(even tho I am nothing on the forum, not a mod, reflist guy, nothing) to help out ExMinion and Tranorix in whatever way I can, even though I am just another trader.

[Secret Squirrel]

The way I handle this on the DM (Duel Masters) list is I just list the refs they have from other forums, but they are there just as a reference. Ex:

Pojo: 3 (DM), 2 (Yugi)

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is about sending first for a few trades. If you have a lot of refs in other Pojo forums, and you're sending first to someone reliable, neither of you have anything to worry about.... soon you'll be asking people to be sending first.

I don't think they should count, especially in such a small forum like this. Remember, no one is forcing you to do a trade with a suspicious person.

I guess I do feel a little sorry for the people with like 50 Yugioh refs and then force them to send first here. But still, a majority of the users on Pojo are, believe it or not, NOT RIPPERS. It isn't that hard to ask people to send simultaneously, especially if you are reliable.

The other problem is somewhat minor, but still a problem. People can leave multiple refs for the same person for the DBZ refs (and maybe the DM... don't remember too well). Could be problematic.

I have said my peace and will enforce what you all want to... whether I agree with it or not.

[Brockiflower]

People should be able to say that while their trading they will only count Mtg refs if they want to.

[Dream]

I think they should matter if both people have 0 or equal refs but if I have more MTG refs then im not going to want to send to someone who has no MTG refs. So if you use YGO or whatever as a tiebreaker thats fine but MTG refs should take priority in the MTG forum. Not to mention I have had people ask me in the VS forum to give them a ref for YugayOh forums too so they could pad their numbers.

[tyranitar masterus]

Making one ref board for the entire forum may encourage more trading in the smaller forums. In the YGO, trades happen almost non-stop, because there are a lot of people there who have built up a ref base. In the MTG forum, there are like ten people with refs...

On the other hand, this may also encourage more ripping. People with a lot of refs from the other sections of the board could potentially come over to this forum and rip someone off for a lot of money, as some MTG cards are valued in the hundreds of dollars. While this is unlikely, its still possible.

However, I voted yes, because I feel that that way I won't have to send first to people on this board who have 1 ref when I've got several in the YGO forum, and thus lessen the possibility of being ripped.

I wholeheartedly agree, because people, who are veterans, like me, built up their ref base on Pokemon and YGO! If they switch, their refs shouold be able to go with them where ever they go, as long as it's on pojo.

For those of you who don't know, I was on pojo eons ago, while they were still on the old server. Same name, 2000+ posts, veteran, well-known. Nowadays, I am too busy to have the high count of posts, let alone run trading posts on 4 different sites. But I try.

SO IMO, yes, refs should be caounted from other pojo forums, that way people with no refs in this particualr part of the forums doesn't get ripped off by a newbie with 0-1 refs. Let the people with the true trading experience have their refs from their other games. Prevent forest fires......err.......ripping, just because someone who has tons of refs on the other part of this board doesn't have refs here.