Harry Potter WILL NOT die

[PhoenixTail234]

Harry Potter will not die. And here's why:

First of all, the books are told from Harry's point of view, therefore he died the books will just end. Ending: Harry Potter saw a falsh of green light.

Second: Why in the WORLD, would JKR work this hard and this long just to have her main character, who she's spent the last ten or more years developing and has been her whole world (other then her family) just to die in the end?

Third: Do you have any, ANY idea, how many millions of people would be outraged if she killed him off? Take Sherlock Holmes for instance, people were so angry at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for killing Sherlock off that he had rewrite it to where he didn't die.

Fourth: I know I'm not alone here. Some of us have spent the last few years wrapped up in the Harry Potter universe. We would be devistated if that universe came to an end.


And last but not least: I don't want him to die :(

Anyone else have anything else to say on this particular subject: Please say so.

Disclaimer: I'm really not trying to target anyone, i'm just stating my opinion, so feel free to counter attack :D

[WoodenCoyote]

Actually, the books are not told from his point of view. They're about him, yes, but in the third person.
That's why it says "Harry went to the store" not "I went to the store"

[W.Lord]

yes as i see it in this generation there where many good movies/books out but i definately no that the lotr and harry potter series will be watched till the end of time

[Overlord Zatenks]

I shall refer to a previous statement I made in another topic.

The thing is, the prophecy states that one of them must die at the hands of the other. JK Rowling is quite the author, and I do not think that she needs to kill off her lead characters in order to extrapolate emotion from her readers. That would upset a lot of people. I am confident that Harry will live, because if he does not live, then Voldemort will live. And we all know that such a thing cannot happen, as it would result in everyone's destruction. And I doubt that she would write seven books only to have Harry killed off so that way Voldemort wins and everybody dies at the end.

That would be a terrible and unfitting ending, and I think that JK knows this. The way she has been writing these books, she has Harry going through a tough time as he grows up. Harry Potter is not about good versus evil in my opinion, it is a story about coming of age. It is a story of how Harry Potter grows up in the face of adversity. I believe that after a hard fought battle at Hogwarts, Harry will come out on top in the end.That is my stance on the matter.

[PhoenixTail234]

I couldn't agree more overlord

but still, wooden, it's from his point of view. The books always express what's going through Harry's mind, not anyother character. For example, when the demetors are on the train in PoA it only states what harry is feeling.

[WoodenCoyote]

Again, you misuse the meaning of "point of view" in literature. But I'll let it rest.

All I can say is: never rule it out. JK still has two books left to finish and she could end up surprising us all in more ways than just letting Harry snuff it.

[PhoenixTail234]

then what do you call a book that's told from one characters mind set?

[WoodenCoyote]

When a book is written from the point of view of a character, that's first person. They are speaking directly to the reader.

Harry Potter is written in third person - his story is being told to the reader by a narrator. In this case, the story focuses entirely on him and only covers events that occur when he is present.

[Busterslash35]

By reading your statement Zatenks, it sounds like HP is a book version of FLCL.. lol Or at least that's what I first thought after reading your post. But I think that it could go either way, I mean, JK could surprise us with some major plot twist in Harry dying. I guess we'll never know until the books come out. So be patient people. =)

[Village Dag]

Harry Potter will not die. And here's why:

First of all, the books are told from Harry's point of view, therefore he died the books will just end. Ending: Harry Potter saw a falsh of green light.

Second: Why in the WORLD, would JKR work this hard and this long just to have her main character, who she's spent the last ten or more years developing and has been her whole world (other then her family) just to die in the end?

Third: Do you have any, ANY idea, how many millions of people would be outraged if she killed him off? Take Sherlock Holmes for instance, people were so angry at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for killing Sherlock off that he had rewrite it to where he didn't die.

Fourth: I know I'm not alone here. Some of us have spent the last few years wrapped up in the Harry Potter universe. We would be devistated if that universe came to an end.


And last but not least: I don't want him to die :(

Anyone else have anything else to say on this particular subject: Please say so.

Disclaimer: I'm really not trying to target anyone, i'm just stating my opinion, so feel free to counter attack :D

1. I think it's been cleared up that he dosen't tell the story.
2. Do you want an awful after series? If not, killing him off is the best way.
3. How about when they killed Kenny off South Park? Many were outraged at that, and MS&TP didn't care.
4. It's a universe already?
5. Your opinion. I'll leave it at that.

[Busterslash35]

With number three, Kenny comes back every episode so it really shouldn't matter, should it? You make a good point with number two, though.

[Village Dag]

With number three, Kenny comes back every episode so it really shouldn't matter, should it?

Uh, I meant from series six onwards. The creators wanted him off the series forever since it became repeative finding fresh ways to die.

[PhoenixTail234]

i never said he told the story. All i said was that it's told from the perspective of what's happening to him. and you can't compare south park to harry potter... and I stated that it was only my opinion already, so thanks

[Busterslash35]

Ah, well then nevermind that part of my post then.

[RCG_]

WoodenCoyote, the book may be written in the third person, but he is right in saying that these books are written from Harry's point of view. The questions raised are ALWAYS raised by Harry from his mind...the narrator doesn't raise any point of view that isn't Harry's (except for the very beginning of the first book when Harry was a baby.) Anything Harry sees or does is from his perspective. If smething happens when Harry is not around, it must be told to him or around him - otherwise it never happened. Any event in these books must happen or be told to Harry for it to exist. Then, when they are witnessed or told - his mind is the one that analyzes every single part and comes to the conclusion. It's much different than a story written just from the third person.

The point of view argument is very important in certain debates (like the R/Hr/H triangle.) so I make sure to defend it.

I think it's absurd to assume Harry will die. Thought I'd throw that in there. hehe.

[Lost Digi Girl]

I'm only going to comment on a few things. Note-I am not a published author yet, but planning on it, so I write a lot, and read books to help. But this is just my opinion.

First is about the whole 'point of view' It's third person, but, as a book on writing I read described it, it's like the camera is on his shoulder. No where else. The book describes what is seen/heard/thought from that position only. But it is still technically third person.

Also, if a writer is that connected to a character, they may not want to kill them. I'm like that with some of my characters in my stories. I canceled a DnD campaign I was working on because I didn't want to risk them dying. After so much time writing and thinking about him, it'd be strange killing him.

And as for a 'after series' I suppose it would really depend on how she ends it, who she continues it with, and if she really wants to do it. Some books, I might want to continue on, others I know will be done once they are done. On that one, you can't really think about until the book is written and you can look back and make a reasonable story to go after it.

Overall, I don't see a point in trying to predict what is going to happen. There isn't a real glory if you get it right. It just seems that it overanalyzes things. But for me, part of it is the fact that I would rather focus on my own characters. Sorry if I seem rude or anything.

[Ellimist211]

Okay, the statement that the main character has to die for the series not to be awful is purely ridiculous. Granted, "And he lived happily ever after" isn't exactly original, but killing him off isn't the best way to end a series either.

Ever read the Animorphs series?

For those who didn't, I'll post a SPOILER

Everybody but Cassie dies in book 54.

/SPOILER

I acctually grew to resent K.A. Applegate for a time after that little escapade. But that's just my opinion; killing off the main character(s) is the worst way to end any series, regardless the circumstance.

[Busterslash35]

I think the way the books are written, third person but only from Harry's POV, is called limited omniscense or something, where the reader sees only what the main character sees. Somebody who actually pays attention in Language Arts correct me if I'm wrong. =/

Also, Ellimist, I don't recall
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everybody but Cassie dying.. We know for sure Rachel is dead, but didn't the series end with the group attacking the Blade Ship? So there's no definite ending, at least from what I remember.. It's been a while since I've read them so don't blame me if I'm wrong..
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[RCG_]

Did anyone see final fantasy, the movie? Yeah probably not - no one did because it was awful and do you know why? Because everyone died! No one wants to see that and after a decade of writing for one character I an't bring myself to imagine her actually killing Harry off. She cried when Sirius died and he was only a 3 year old character.

[Village Dag]

[QUOTE=RCG_]Did anyone see final fantasy, the movie? Yeah probably not - no one did because it was awful and do you know why? Because everyone died!QUOTE]

Uh, Romeo and Juliet is quite popular, and ALMOST everyone dies in that. Besides, there's other things that dragged that movie down.

Alright, she should have a mixed ending instead. Who dosen't surrport that?

[WoodenCoyote]

Did anyone see final fantasy, the movie? Yeah probably not - no one did because it was awful and do you know why? Because everyone died!
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Hey, death is interesting. That movie blew because the plot was weak.

[big_jimmy_s]

ok i hate to be a kill joy but i think it is entirely possible for harry to die.
the very first introduction of harry potter, in philosiphers stone, was not written in the third person with regards to harry. so it is not impossible for the last chapter of the last book could also be written in the same way.
Also the first ever chapter was titled "the boy who lived," which concentrated on the ramifications of harrys survival.whos to say the last chapter dosent concern harrys death and the ramifications of that.
these are just a couple of observations i have made, and just for the record i dont want harry to die any more than you do, but when rereading the first chapter i thought of these points. :(

[shadowbahamut]

Harry Potter will not die. And here's why:

[QUOTE]First of all, the books are told from Harry's point of view, therefore he died the books will just end. Ending: Harry Potter saw a falsh of green light.
Ur wrong it's in the third person.

Second: Why in the WORLD, would JKR work this hard and this long just to have her main character, who she's spent the last ten or more years developing and has been her whole world (other then her family) just to die in the end?

Why not?maybe all she wants is money (or)to prove the bad guys always wins.

Third: Do you have any, ANY idea, how many millions of people would be outraged if she killed him off? Take Sherlock Holmes for instance, people were so angry at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for killing Sherlock off that he had rewrite it to where he didn't die.

Guess what people burn her books but does she care?No

Fourth: I know I'm not alone here. Some of us have spent the last few years wrapped up in the Harry Potter universe. We would be devistated if that universe came to an end.

I love hP books too but i wouldn't be devastated it was taken away.

[PhoenixTail234]

I think we've covered that i'm wrong about the point of view thing, thanks.

Well if you love the books so much, you don't seem to support the author very much. All she wants is money? The Bad guy prevade? Do you even read the books?

Guess what? more people read her books then burn them.

P.S. I'm a she

[RCG_]

oh good lord, i cant believe people actually defend the possibility of Harry dying.

[WoodenCoyote]

No-one wants to see Harry buy the farm, it would be very sad. But this is JK's series and her characters and she can do whatever she damn well pleases with them. He could live, he could die. He could be wearing high-heels and living on the moon by the end, for all we know.

I'm not in support of Harry dying, but I understand that it could very well happen. We'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

[shadowbahamut]

I think we've covered that i'm wrong about the point of view thing, thanks.

Well if you love the books so much, you don't seem to support the author very much. All she wants is money? The Bad guy prevade? Do you even read the books?

Guess what? more people read her books then burn them.

P.S. I'm a she

Why the hell should i support the author?All i care about is reading the books.yes i read the books.i was just trying to make a point where people burn her books but does she care?no.So if she killed off harry why should she care?

[halo158]

She wouldn't kill off harry.

SPOILER:
and in the animorphs, they RAM the blade ship. Everyone on both ships dies, Cassie lives cause she didn't go

/SPOILER

[PhoenixTail234]

In no way am I defending the POSSIBILITY of him dying, because that's always a possibility and I understand that. All I’m saying is that, however unpredictable JK is, I believe it's very unlikely that she will take that rout. But it's just my opinion.