View Full Version : Random OCG deck - Rate Critically
Shion
02-03-2007, 03:26 AM
Monsters: 18
Tribute: 3
[] Konton no Kuromajutsushi (Dark Magician of Choas)
[][] Meiōryū Vandalgion
Non-Tribute: 14
[][][] Elemental Hero Airman
[][] Destiny Hero Doomguy
[] Destiny Hero Discguy
[] Destiny Hero Defendguy
[] Critter (Sangan)
[] Madō Senshi Breaker (Breaker the Magical Warrior)
[] Dandelion
[] Night no Assassin (Night Assailant)
[] Saint Magician (Magician of Faith)
[] Yomigaeru (Treeborn Frog)
[] Tamashī o Kezuru Shiryō (Spirit Reaper)
Magic: 14
[][][] Enemy Controller
[][][] Destiny Draw
[][] Fūin no Ōgonhitsu
[] Orokana Maisō (Foolish Burial)
[] Ōarashi (Heavy Storm)
[] Hayasugita Maisō (Premature Burial)
[] Hikari no Gofū Ken (Swords of Revealing Light)
[] Tenshi no Hodokoshi (Graceful Charity)
[] Scape Goat
[] Ōshū (Confiscation)
Trap: 7
[][][] Tenbatsu (Divine Wrath)
[] Kami no Senkoku (Solemn Judgement)
[] Magic Drain
[] Seinaru Barrier —Mirror Force—
[] Hakairin (Ring of Destruction)
[] Shi no Deck Hakai Virus (Crush Card Virus)
[Edit] Before someone brings Up Meifu no Shisha Goes. No I didn't forget him, He's not in here on purpose.
[EDIT2] Version 3.0
Akatsuki
02-03-2007, 04:24 AM
Why would you need Thunder Break? And why won't you need Goes? And I think you should put Spirit Reaper in.
Shion
02-03-2007, 07:35 AM
I like Thunder Break, Chainable removal that no one expects, its tech.
Everyone needs Goes, I simply won't use him here. You are right about the reaper though. I'm just not sure what to take out.
The Laughing Man
02-03-2007, 07:52 AM
Ok, if you want a critical rate with reasons, here you go:
This deck is terrible. The title Random doesn't even come close enough to explaining it. This deck does maybe 1 or 2 things right, and everything else wrong. Here we go...
Ok, monsters. Your monster line is awful. Gadgets in the current meta = stupid. They get run over by every decktype being currently played. 2 Vandragon with 3 counter traps = most ridiculous idea anyone has ever had. DMoC is usually good, but you don't really have the support for it. You're running no revival cards, so dump and revive is out. You have no DD cards, so remove and return is out. You have yomigaeru and dandelion, but they aren't enough. Snipestalker is good in the TCG, terrible in the OCG. Sure, waste your card, i probably have 3 ways in my hand of gaining at least +1 if not something like +3 or more (assuming you even roll properly). Finally, flips (especially Mask of Darkness with your poor trap line) = meh. Too slow. Other than that, it's fine... (/sarcasm)
Next, magic. Ok, 3 controller, 3 fuuin, no problem. Cyclone buy no Tempest? Fail. Single copy of Earth Crusher. Fail. Single copy of Shield Crush. Fail. Single copy of Ectoplamsa. WTF are you thinking? Swords, goats, and Confiscation = personal preference, so no problem there.
Ok, last is traps. DDVD with 2 Targets? Fail. 3 Counters without some sort of counter angel support. Fail. Raigeki Break? ABSOLUTE FAILURE.
The one card that could have given this deck potential for a lucksack victory was Goes, and you said you intentionally didn't include it. Yeah, I'm going to run the relay in the Olympics next month, so I'm going to smash my knee with an iron pipe before I go.
Basically, all this deck shows is that you have no idea what the current meta in the OCG is like, and poor deck-building skills. If this were the TCG, this would still be a poor deck (assuming the OCG exclusive cards you're running were released there).
So, what I'd recommend to you is to take some time to read over this forum and look for some decks which are currently dominating the OCG (A good example of the DHero CC is in my sig. I think the purple link is also pretty good, but probably a little slow for the meta, but it's not meant to be the most competitive deck ever). After you do that, go back to basics, choose a focused theme, and build from there.
If you need help building your deck for the current meta, by all means write up a prospective decklist, and pm it to me. I'll take a look over it, tell you it's weak points and how to rectify them, and then give it a post.
This was not meant as a personal attack, but rather as critical a rate as I could possibly give. If you'd like to rip my decks a new one, by all means do so, the links are in the sig.
Shion
02-03-2007, 08:30 PM
well, you certainly ripped me a new one eh?
okay, so my 15 minute deck build with no testing sucks. I only take offense to your assumption I'm a horrible deck builder/player. Don't make assumptions like that about me again please.
I'm well aware of the OCG metagame. So now that we got all that out of the way how bout giving some helpful suggestions. I'm making some of the more basic edits now.
Akatsuki
02-04-2007, 02:53 AM
Monsters: 19
Tribute: 3
[] Konton no Kuromajutsushi (Dark Magician of Choas)
[][] Meiōryū Vandalgion You don't need this. Too little counters.
Non-Tribute: 16
[][] Green Gadget
[][] Red Gadget
[][] Yellow Gadget
[][] Snipestalker (Snipe Hunter) I hate to say this, but this really is bad in the OCG. This is because there is so much other removal.
[] Critter (Sangan)
[] Madō Senshi Breaker (Breaker the Magical Warrior)
[] Dandelion
[] Night no Assassin (Night Assailant)
[] Yami no Kamen (Mask of Darkness)
[] Saint Magician (Magician of Faith)
[] Yomigaeru (Treeborn Frog)
[] Tamashī o Kezuru Shiryō (Spirit Reaper)
Magic: 14
[][][] Enemy Controller
[][] Fūin no Ōgonhitsu
[] Ōarashi (Heavy Storm)
[] Cyclone (Mytical Space Typhoon)
[] Hikari no Gofū Ken (Swords of Revealing Light)
[] Shield Crush Why don't you just run Noblemen of Crossout?
[] Jikudaki (Smashing ground)
[] Tenshi no Hodokoshi (Graceful Charity)
[] Scape Goat
[] Ectoplasmer Really, this will kill Treeborn Frog. Not good in here.
[] Ōshū (Confiscation)
Trap: 7
[][][] Tenbatsu (Divine Wrath) Really, this and Snipestalker will eat through your hand too much. Drop all of them.
[] Kami no Senkoku (Solemn Judgement)
[] Seinaru Barrier —Mirror Force—
[] Hakairin (Ring of Destruction)Ring of Destruction is bad in the OCG. This is because of Goes.
[] Shi no Deck Hakai Virus (Crush Card Virus)
[Edit] Before someone brings Up Meifu no Shisha Goes. No I didn't forget him, He's not in here on purpose. I don't know what to put in, to be honest. If you want something similar to gadgets, put in Airman. You could do with Des Calibur Knight in here too. You will need Noblemen of Crossout. You will need Shrink in here, if you run Gadgets. Seriously, your reasoning of not running Goes is not very good. You should really run him. Marshmellon is a good OCG card to run. You should either run Sakuretsu Armor (Reactive Armor), or run Widespread Ruin in here. Otherwise, you are lacking too much removal. Don't run Divine Wrath. It's not good. You might be better off running some Flipping the Mat. That stops Breaker, Monarchs, and Airman.
Shion
02-04-2007, 04:37 AM
Yes, Snipehunter's are going. Shield crush over Nobleman is because i was running 3 common flip effect monsters. Plus shield crush is more versitile. Ectoplasmer was a last minute throw in, I didn't even consider Yomigaeru, so that ones my bad. I didn't really wan't to but yes, I suppose I will use airman, because is simply to good not to run /sigh.
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