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D stands for Daisuke
12-28-2006, 03:11 PM
Whats up guys, I figured since the format is over I'd post up (what I'd say is) my greatest creation throughout my dueling career. Theres not much more to say about this deck, but that its my signature deck, and I'm desperately trying to find a way to revive this deck.


MAIN DECK
Monsters- 19
D-Hero Dogmaguy
Messenger of Hades- Gors
Messenger of Hades- Gors
D-Hero Dashguy
D-Hero Dashguy
D-Hero Dashguy
E-Hero Airman
E-Hero Airman
E-Hero Airman
D-Hero Diamondguy
D-Hero Diamondguy
D-Hero Doomguy
D-Hero Doomguy
Initiate Troops
Initiate Troops
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Defendguy

Magics- 15
Angel's Gift
Apostle of Genocide
Cyclone
Destiny Draw
Destiny Draw
Destiny Draw
Early Burial
Earth Crusher
Earth Crusher
Jar of Avarice
Lightning Vortex
Reinforcements
Reinforcements
Sealing Swords of Light
Tempest

Traps- 6
Cry of the Living Dead
D-Counter
D-Counter
Deck Destruction Virus of Death
Destruction Ring
Holy Barrier- Mirror Force


SIDE DECK
8
Dark Hero Zombire
Dark Hero Zombire
Death Wombat
Death Wombat
Death Wombat
Mask of Darkness
D.D. Crow
D.D. Crow
2
Scapegoat
Soul Release
5
Deck Destruction Virus of Magic
Deck Destruction Virus of Magic
Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado

Against- Wins/Losses
OCG Dark Gors Deck- 15/2
TCG Undead Deck- 8/1
OCG Emperor Deck- 3/0
OCG Horus Franken Deck- 2/1
OCG E-Heroes Deck- 8/4
OCG Necroface Deck- 3/1
OCG Baboon Beastdown Deck- 9/2

R.I.P. Perfect D.

Well so that was that run, here is my new build. Please help me out with some input here. Much appreciated guys. Thanks in advance for your replys.


19
D-Hero Dogmaguy
Messenger of Hades- Gors
D-Hero Dashguy
D-Hero Dashguy
E-Hero Airman
D-Hero Diamondguy
D-Hero Diamondguy
KILLER TOMATO
KILLER TOMATO
D-Hero Doomguy
D-Hero Doomguy
Initiate Troops
Initiate Troops
Critter
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Diabolicguy
D-Hero Discguy
Soul Banisher

17
APOSTLE OF GENOCIDE
CYCLONE
Destiny Draw
Destiny Draw
Destiny Draw
Early Burial
Earth Crusher
Earth Crusher
Jar of Avarice
Lightning Vortex
Reinforcements
Reinforcements
Scapegoat
Sealed Golden Chest
Sealing Swords of Light
TEMPEST
Theft

6
Ceasefire
Cry of the Living Dead
Deck Destruction Virus of Death
Destruction Ring
Holy Barrier- Mirror Force
Magic Cylinders

Twilight
12-29-2006, 02:15 AM
Great looking deck man!
Hmm I've decked out a few times as well with my deck, it wouldn't be as fast as yours (-Airman etc) but I would use Tomatoes. Magical Stone Excav? Diamondguycould hit it and get you Avarice back? Or Discard Dashguy/Diabolicguy for it.
Looks great dude, I'm glad you've been having so much success with it!
Mind taking a look at the deck in my sig?

Thanks ^_^

D stands for Daisuke
12-29-2006, 12:47 PM
Thats a really good idea (Magic Stone Excavation)! I think Tomatoes could possibly speed up the deck out process a little more than I'd like, and besides, I've got the signals ;) . Though I was thinking about Initiate Troops. I noticed I have a little trouble with stallers like Soul Banisher and Marshmallon, what do you think?

I wish I could take a look at your sig deck, but I'm guessing thats in a vets section? Could you post it elsewhere I really wanna see it.

Twilight
12-29-2006, 12:55 PM
I'll PM you it ^_^

Yeah, the troops can get both of them with ease. A teched Fissure might also help since they're pretty low in attack points.

D stands for Daisuke
12-29-2006, 01:21 PM
So obviously with the decking out situation what would you say is the "safest" deck count to go with on the high end? OH! and I replied to your PM

Twilight
12-29-2006, 01:24 PM
I would say you could afford to go a little higher, like maybe 45 since Airman and Diabolic thin and Diamond could possibley send another to the grave for the next turn. Yeah, I replied, thanks for the ideas man ^_^

D stands for Daisuke
12-29-2006, 01:58 PM
No ploblemo. Yea, thats what I was thinkin. I'll playtest 45 today, and if it works well, I'll edit the deck permanently. Thanks for the help Twilight.

D stands for Daisuke
03-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Updated for new format!

Could a mod please move this to the proper section? Sank yo!

Gaurdian-Garasu
03-11-2007, 01:29 PM
I don't know a lot about the Japan Meta, but what about D-Hero - Disc Guy?

I'm also trying to make a D-Hero deck for this format, but I don't think it will work here in the USA cause every build I have made keeps losing.

D stands for Daisuke
03-11-2007, 03:05 PM
As soon as I get him (Discguy), I'll try him out, but I honestly don't think he'll be as big as all of the hype. Now are you trying make a TCG D-Hero deck? If so, I highly recommend you speak to Twilight about that. Hes quite knowledgable about how D-Heroes work best in the TCG. If in OCG, I'm all ears. feel free to post up the deck here if you'd like.

Gaurdian-Garasu
03-12-2007, 04:04 AM
It's a TCG D-Hero deck.

Sameshima
03-12-2007, 01:41 PM
It's a TCG D-Hero deck.

Because Goes was released in the TCG, when?

Cyber Squirel
03-12-2007, 04:38 PM
I thought Gors was restricted to 1 =\

Sameshima
03-12-2007, 05:03 PM
A. Look at the date of the decks original post.

B. Stop looking at the first deck.

D stands for Daisuke
03-12-2007, 09:00 PM
Haha. Thanks for my reply in my absence Sameshima. Either way, does anyone have anything? no? c'mon....

InfamousJ
03-12-2007, 11:16 PM
Maybe side in some Dark Jeloids? Easily Searchable, and fantastic Dashguy food once it's done it's job.

D stands for Daisuke
03-13-2007, 12:13 AM
I think my big problem with using Jeloids is the fact that they really don't fit in with the D-Hero theme. If you look at my last build, I'm sure you'll see that I did my best to stick to D-Heroes as much as possible. I'd say that even the monsters that aren't D-Heroes don't really look out of place in this deck (maybe except the Initiate Troops). What I'm trying to do here is create a similar feel to the deck (but keep it competitive as possible). D-Heroes, D-Heroes, D-Heroes. I'm panicing here. I've been working on the perfect D-Hero build since they came out. I found it, then it was stripped... would you say that I'm being to picky here? Do you happen to have any other suggestions now that you may have a tad bit more insight to what I'm looking for?

Much appreciated input, thanks a lot. Is there anything else?

InfamousJ
03-13-2007, 12:58 PM
Being as I have very little experience with E-Heroes or D-Heroes, I wouldn't know what to suggest to keep it a purely D-Hero theme outside of what you already have. Nyudoria sort of looks like he could fit a D-Hero theme, and he's another one that's easily searchable.

Another thing I was half thinking of for some added protection was Clock Tower Prison, because even without Dreadguy it is good protection. Slow, prone to m/t removal protection, but good protection nonetheless.

Sameshima
03-13-2007, 01:23 PM
Dread > Dogma
Clock Tower > Everything

Changes need to be made.

D stands for Daisuke
03-15-2007, 10:38 PM
Care to specify?

And I will have you know that my Dogmaguy deck did 10x better than my Clocktower deck. Have you playtested both decks?

Sameshima
03-15-2007, 10:46 PM
Then you built your Clock Tower D-Hero deck poorly. Dread + Clock is almost infinitely superior to any Dogma build.

Dogma it self isn't that good.

And yes, i have playtested both.

D stands for Daisuke
03-16-2007, 01:37 AM
Thats a rather bold statement. To go and judge/insult my deck building preferences and without any proof or real constructive criticism. I could easily go and say the same about your Dogmaguy build, but I really don't care to jump to conclusions without putting any thought into my statements. I forgive you for offending me. I understand that you are younger than I am, and that theres no point in getting upset with such a small careless statement. Please don't bother to give any input here again unless its helpful, constructive, or contributes to my thread here in a positive way.

blackpaladin87
03-16-2007, 02:46 AM
Then you built your Clock Tower D-Hero deck poorly. Dread + Clock is almost infinitely superior to any Dogma build.

Dogma it self isn't that good.

And yes, i have playtested both.
A bit of a big assumption to make, perhaps?

I like the deck, Daisuke, but having no experience with E- or D-heroes, there's not much I can say.

Sameshima
03-16-2007, 02:55 AM
Anyone can build a deck poorly, and most likely everyone is guilty of it at one time or another, it's not as if it makes the deck builder a poor player.

So no, it wasn't an insult. My point still stands, Clock Tower and Dread make for a much better D-Hero win condition then Dogma could ever hope to achieve. Dogma is not worth it's three tributes, while Dread is just an added Bonus to an already amazing Field card.

Clock + Dread can apply more pressure then Dogma as well. If Clock stays, then your opponent has to find new ways to get around your lifepoints, and if it dies, you will just Dread-Sack them.

If Clock dies before it accumulates it's counters, then they wasted M/t Removal, which is less and less now that Breaker is gone, so you can just rip them up with Sakuretsu Armor.

I am also not telling the deck maker to change his deck, I'm merely pointing out the better option.

Twilight
03-16-2007, 03:21 AM
IMO Dreadmaster is the way to go. He has so much support going for him and he works great with all the Special Summoning the D-HEROES have going for them - Fear Monger, Dasher, Tenacious etc. Not to mention CTP is a fantastic field and Eternal Dread makes it even better.

It looks to be a good deck, but Dreadmaster works better with the D-HEROES than Dogma does (again IMO)

D stands for Daisuke
03-16-2007, 10:15 AM
And both of you guys could be very right on the subject, but maybe just for this format considering the lack of useable m/t removal, but there is a reason why my deck did so well last format, and I urge you guys to see that, rather than closing your minds to the possibility. If anything, maybe I'll just make a different Dreadguy deck, and you guys can fix that one, but as far as I have seen, Dogmaguy is MUCH more efficient, and while I am still very much in need of fixes or some constructive input with THIS deck, it would be great if I could get some. Thanks for the input guys

There is a reason why Dogmaguy has been teched in Destiny Beat decks in OCG tourneys, and Dreadguy hasn't you know.

Sameshima
03-16-2007, 12:50 PM
Your logic is failing.

It's completely based off of small scale tournaments, and no hard facts. How is Dogma more efficient? It's horrible Field Management, and your opponent will just be laughing as he destroys it with removal next turn.

If you wasted that much field Control for Dogma, then you probably don't have much to protect you if Dogma does die, so the minor damage Dogma managed to inflict becomes more of a cost for them to be able to attack openly.

Clock and Dread are neither of these things. Clock Tower on its own is on it's way to being broken, especially with Field Barrier. It is it's own deck, so there is no debate up for Clock.

Dread however only optimizes on what resources have already been lost, while Dogma forces you to actually rid of those resources your self, for a big 3400 ATK target.

Opponent destroys clock, they waste removal, and you rip them open with a backfield. Opponent destroys backfield, you apply pressure with Clock. Clock survives with four counters, they are screwed either way.

Clock + Dread is a pressure mechanism.

D stands for Daisuke
03-16-2007, 03:46 PM
Well I'd like you to tell me where Dreadguy has showed up at ALL outside of casual play, but unless I'm mistaken, he hasn't.

Its one thing for you to give me a simple opinion, but its another when I'm telling you that I'm getting a little offended and would like you to refrain from posting unless its got something to offer, and in this case and your mannerisms its not doing anything but aggrevating me. I appreciate you letting me in on Clock+Dread being a pressure mechanism, but frankly, its not good enough reasoning for you to go and tell me I've got no logic or telling me that with 6 years of dueling(as strange or stupid as it sounds) that I have a poor build of anything without seeing for yourself. Thanks again for stopping by. ;)

Sameshima
03-16-2007, 04:12 PM
Dread is better then Dogma, now what you want to use is up to you, i could care less, i was commenting on the fact that you actually think Dogma is better then Dread.

Miso-G's and Frontiers are bad examples for you to use, as the decks used are usually not that good, and very few are, hence very few can be used as a solid reasoning as to why one card is better then another.

So far you are the only one who agrees Dogma is better then Dread, i would say the odds of elimination are a better example then Small Scale Tournaments, infamous for using underused tactics.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, just bad when using it to prove a point.

And i said if your Dogma deck was working better then your Clock deck, then yes, your Clock deck was most likely a poor build. You take it as an insult, and ignored my comments that went with it, mainly the part about it not being an insult.

I have given fact after fact as to why Dread is better then Dogma, and you have given nothing. Why can you not admit Dread is better, say you wish to use Dogma anyway, and move on? Just because one option is better, it doesn't mean you have to go with that option.

D stands for Daisuke
03-16-2007, 04:54 PM
I respect your opinion, why can't you respect mine rather than dealing in absolution. You avoided my most recent question. Just tell me where and when, thats all. I'm telling you that while your intentions might not lie in an offensive place, you are very much just getting on my nerves, and I'm a nice guy.

Early game, Dogma is deadly. Especially last format where Airman were seen in threes. While most competitive decks ran him as a deck thinner (not to say that I didn't in certain situations), you'd be surprised to see how easy it was to have 3 monsters out and a Dogmaguy in the second turn. Not to mention where D-Ring could practically finish off the opponent in one blow. With Diabolicguy being able to duplicate himself up to twice in a duel, it really isn't that bad getting him to the field, and even after, to duplicate himself for a tad bit more field presence. I'd personally love to show you if you lived in the SoCal area so we could stop this pointless bickering.

Dreadguy=reactive
Dogmaguy=proactive

Onto.... other things...? I JUST GOT BACK FROM PICKING UP MY 3X BLOO-Ds!! ANY CONGRATS?? no?? okay...

Sameshima
03-16-2007, 04:56 PM
No competitive decks ran Dogma.

D stands for Daisuke
03-16-2007, 05:35 PM
sigh... leave me alone... you bug... you're a kid and probably a tru****nd (that says trust fund btw... i don't know why its censored) baby... you're completely close-minded, and don't bother do budge or open any windows of possibility. don't take the bitterness of your own life out on me.

would you like a decklist? if i give you one, would you leave me alone?

Sameshima
03-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Dread > Dogma, as i said, you can use whatever you want, that is not my problem so being closed minded is kind of unrealistic considering i am not telling you what to use, i am telling you what is better.

If you want to keep living in that little bubble of yours, be my guest, keep pretending that if a deck was used at a Frontier or Miso-G, it must be competitive.

And at that blatant insult, "Trust Fund Baby", which is far from fact, it's funny since this isn't the first time you have just outright insulted someone for telling you are wrong in something. Gondora more recently, i believe for questioning your Japanese linguistics.

You should learn how to cope with being wrong.

D stands for Daisuke
03-17-2007, 12:17 AM
Dude...Do you really have a problem comprehending "you bug" or "leave me alone"? Where or how can you say that I'm wrong? For what? Stating an opinion? You're no god, how can you justify your "knowledge" of the world, let alone a card game against someone elses? Dude, you've got to get a life. I've said I respected your opinion, and all you do is come back again and again just to tell me that you have to be right, and you tell me I have to cope with being wrong? Wow. You've got obsession issues. Let it go. Do you have no friends or social skills at all? You obviously lack common courtesy.

I won't even bother to continue this petty bickering here with you about these cards, because I know you'll come back again just to annoy me. You obviously won't budge, but I no longer care to take the time to discuss anything with the likes of you and YOUR stubborness.

Concerning Gondora, as soon as the matter was addressed, I had no problem apologizing for my error. I've got no problem admitting to my mistakes. Go back and read my last post to him a couple more times before accusing me of being extremely stubborn. I've had the patience to reply to you, and tell you that I appreciate your input, giving you my gratitude for your concern here, and to tell you nicely that you're aggrevating me, but dude, you just don't learn here. Go away. I've told you in other threads even though we've got our different opinions, I still respect you as a duelist here at pojo's, but you suck man. As a person and... well... yeah... Take a clue man, get a life, get some social skills, get some manners, I don't care, just as long as its far far away from me or my attention.

Sameshima
03-17-2007, 12:25 AM
I don't have to be a god to see why Dogma is bad and Dread isn't, neither do the people in your own thread who agreed with it.

Let's see all the blatant insults.

I suck as a person, i have no friends or Social Skills, i have no life, is there anything else you would like to add to make your self look like more of a child? Let alone not being able to admit you are wrong.

Also, this thread is in the wrong section.

D stands for Daisuke
03-17-2007, 12:32 AM
Yeah.... I've already posted and asked a mod to replace that (once again.... go and read...).

I'm not the one persisting on posting in someone elses thread when they clearly don't want me there. I'm not the pesty fly here. I'm telling you to go away. At this point in time, this has turned into an ugly discussion, and thats because you won't go away. I don't barge in on your threads and do this. I don't care if I don't get anymore replies here. Just as long as I don't have to see your name as the last one who posted. For the last time, go away. Geez...

Really, I'd like you to stop getting on my nerves here now. You're being childish coming back over and over again when I keep on asking you to go away.

blackpaladin87
03-17-2007, 11:51 AM
Y'know what, Sameshima, please leave the thread.

You're acting very stubborn, condescending, and you have no moral high ground pointing out his insults when you're just as guilty of slinging your own.

Sameshima
03-17-2007, 11:54 AM
Do you even realize how long ago the argument was, and how forgotten it already is?

Leave the thread? I left it 9 hours ago.

I'm acting no more stubborn then he is, and i never blatantly insulted him like he did to me, hence, the argument will never go anywhere, and it shouldn't and won't continue.

That is unless you start it up again just so you could feel like you had a say in all this. Which you don't.

blackpaladin87
03-17-2007, 02:34 PM
Sameshima: I'm going to make this post here since I still feel like you are acting in an unreasonable manner. Then I will leave because I don't want to risk this escalating in a flame war between me and someone else. Don't bother responding, because then it will be just like last time where you "left the thread" then pop up 3 minutes after I post to get in the last word.

For starters, he called the deck "the greatest creation throughout my dueling career" not "the bestest D-Hero deck evar".

Do you even realize how long ago the argument was, and how forgotten it already is?

Leave the thread? I left it 9 hours ago.
You claim that the thread was done and forgotten, yet the last post by you was before I went to sleep last night. I'm sorry, but unless you're the guy from Memento (a great movie), it's definitely not forgotten. Done? Well, so you said. I leave your further posting here as evidence to the contrary.


That is unless you start it up again just so you could feel like you had a say in all this. Which you don't.
Oh you sure got me there. So now I can only participate in a discussion if my opinion matters! Which mine clearly doesn't!

Honestly, you have no place in trying to pin me and trying to tell me my own motives. I know mine. You don't.

This highlights the problem with this argument:
I respect your opinion, why can't you respect mine rather than dealing in absolution.
Honestly, the fact that you are still here after he asked you to leave shows a lack of respect for Daisuke as well. All this because you refuse to let a small issue go. I'm sure your life will be much more fulfilling now that you've converted D stands for Daisuke into your "Dreadguy > Dogmaguy absolutely" camp.

TwilightDude gets it right with 3 letters: IMO. Opinion is not fact. Dreadmaster is better in the current meta, in the majority of situations. He is not better in all situations, and he will never be better in all situations. Like Daisuke said, stop dealing in absolutes.

What I find funny in bringing up the Gondora issue is that Gondora was gracious, explanatory, and understanding, the way Daisuke was initially acting in this post. Guess that's not enough for everybody.

Let's see all the blatant insults.

I suck as a person, i have no friends or Social Skills, i have no life, is there anything else you would like to add to make your self look like more of a child? Let alone not being able to admit you are wrong.

"make your self look like more of a child" - immature
"If you want to keep living in that little bubble of yours" - cut off from reality; sheltered (ironically the same as trust-fund baby)
"You should learn how to cope with being wrong." - sore loser
"keep pretending that if a deck was used at a Frontier or Miso-G, it must be competitive" - delusional (on that note, decks used at Frontier or Miso-G must be somewhat competitive, although not necessarily top-tier)

Just 'cause they aren't as blatant doesn't make them less of insults.

People like you are why I'm glad I quit competitive play.

Me: "Hah, good time for Hades." *wins*
Opp: "Obviously Zaborg is a better tactical use of your tribute spot. It's advantage man, and it's undeniably better than your stupid Hades"
Me: "Look, Zaborg just doesn't work for me. Tourney winners don't HAVE to use Zaborg."
Opp: "Are you daft? Have you even tried Zaborg, it's so much better than Hades. All the latest SJC winners use it!"
Me: "Look, I tried the stupid Monarch and it didn't do as much for me. Might just be my opinion, or a bad series of luck, or my opponent. Hades wins the games for me."
Opp: "Well then obviously, you and everyone you play against just suck."
Me: *packs up deck and leaves*
Opp: "Where are you going? You're in semifinals!"
Me: "Somewhere where I can get respect when my deck does well, rather than be called a lucksack or poor deckbuilder."

I've been tl;dr already, I've got a party to hit. Like I said, don't bother responding to me. I won't see it.

Daisuke: I liked the deck (and best of luck with using the Blood-Ds, but this is a thread I'm ignoring from here on out. If you post a new D-Hero deck I'll be sure to take a look.

Sameshima
03-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Oh you sure got me there. So now I can only participate in a discussion if my opinion matters! Which mine clearly doesn't!

You do not need to have an opinion on this matter, which does not concern you, and i don't think a mod would approve of you basically trying to get your word in edge wise over an argument that should have never started, and that ended a while ago, any more then one would approve of any of the posts in this thread as of yet.


Honestly, the fact that you are still here after he asked you to leave shows a lack of respect for Daisuke as well. All this because you refuse to let a small issue go. I'm sure your life will be much more fulfilling now that you've converted D stands for Daisuke into your "Dreadguy > Dogmaguy absolutely" camp.

I never tried to convert him in to doing anything, he never had a strong debate, and his reasoning as to why Dogma was better then Dread, was lacking. If he cannot bring his A Game to the argument, then he shouldn't have fought it.

I never told him what to do with the current deck, in fact i believe i said many times "I am not telling you to change the deck, i am telling you which is better".

There is a difference between facts, and choices. He can make the choice to use a card he wants, because he wants to, but his stubborn stance that Dogma was actually superior to Dread in any way, was unappealing.

The fact that he got so utterly defensive, and insulted me based on nothing he knew (Calling me a Trust Fund Baby), is a pathetic childish way to try and win a debate.

He failed in getting his point across, so instead he flamed me until i either complied, or got bored and left. I got bored of him and left.


TwilightDude gets it right with 3 letters: IMO. Opinion is not fact. Dreadmaster is better in the current meta, in the majority of situations. He is not better in all situations, and he will never be better in all situations. Like Daisuke said, stop dealing in absolutes.

Dogma is bad period. He is not good in any Meta, as he is not a good card at all. Clock is a good card, Clock is on the verge of being Top Tier as it's own deck-type.

Dreadsack is the most consistent way to use the D-Heroes outside of the usual Diamond Turbo, or any of the other abusive ways to use them. Dogma is especially bad in a Format run 80% through heavy removal, as Dogma will not survive long enough to make a difference on the game, except nuking your own field by having to just summon it.

You summon Dogma, your opponent Chains Ring and merits him a "LOL" just for watching you use such bad field management.

Until he can come up with a better base for his argument other then Small scale tournaments like Miso-G's and Frontiers as examples as to what is good, and what isn't, then he is not worth the time i have been spending here.


"make your self look like more of a child" - immature
"If you want to keep living in that little bubble of yours" - cut off from reality; sheltered (ironically the same as trust-fund baby)
"You should learn how to cope with being wrong." - sore loser
"keep pretending that if a deck was used at a Frontier or Miso-G, it must be competitive" - delusional (on that note, decks used at Frontier or Miso-G must be somewhat competitive, although not necessarily top-tier)

Now let me list all of his insults and let's compare.

- "You Bug"
- Trust Fund Baby
- "You Suck man"
- "Get a life"

I especially note the one in which he calls me an insect.

Blake`
03-17-2007, 03:26 PM
Yeah.... I've already posted and asked a mod to replace that (once again.... go and read...).I'll check this in a sec and move it if it hasn't been.

I'm not the one persisting on posting in someone elses thread when they clearly don't want me there. I'm not the pesty fly here. I'm telling you to go away. At this point in time, this has turned into an ugly discussion, and thats because you won't go away. I don't barge in on your threads and do this. I don't care if I don't get anymore replies here. Just as long as I don't have to see your name as the last one who posted. For the last time, go away. Geez...You posted your deck on a message board, you have to expect to have others post on your thread. He presented his side of the debate quite well without insult to you or the deck really. He presented his opinion of why another option would be better. You disliked it and began insulting him of all things. Decks are meant for discussions on playability and how decks work not just to tell the thread starter it looks good. I suggest if you don't want just anyone on a message board posting on a deck that you not post it here as anyone is free to post on anothers deck as they please so long as they are not spamming and flaming. Sameshima was not doing either, he was just presenting an opinion.

Really, I'd like you to stop getting on my nerves here now. You're being childish coming back over and over again when I keep on asking you to go away.you cannot post a deck and expect no debate to come out of it, in fact a debate over decks is what should be strived for for the improvement of yourself and others. I suggest you all calm down, take a deap breath and not be so hasty to take a discussion and opinion over a card as insults. You can do whatever you want with your deck and people can give opinions and pointers.

BlackPaladin87: try not to report things that are just a simple disagreement and rather than jump in yourself perhaps try to resolve it. Sameshima gave good logic to support his opinion while D stands for Daisuke got upset that someone had a conflicting opinion and started throwing insults.

You guys need to realize that threads you make are still on a message board are meant for discussion from anyone viewing it so long as it doesnt turn into flames/spam.

D stands for Daisuke
03-18-2007, 08:49 AM
As much as I'd hate to go along with this again, I've said at the top of this page (2), that they could be very much right, I need help here with THIS deck, thanked them for their opinions, and said as far as I've seen. I'm not here to debate. I've already made an established point that I prefer to play a certain way, and for those who would like to understand that, and contribute to this thread are welcome to. Like I said before, I never wanted to argue or debate. I simply was looking for some positive fixes on this deck and some good input. Not what I'm using is wrong, trash this. Jeebus crimony. I clearly stated that I might make another thread in the future concerning that playstyle if I felt the need to do so, but for some reason Sameshima felt the need to tell me I was wrong up until, he started to change his intentions. I believe in one of the earlier posts it said something like "changes need to be made". I wasn't asking to be right in all ways shape or forms, just a tad bit of understanding, and in my book, anyone in their own right mind shouldn't have to argue for such a simple thing.

*Sorry if you're having trouble comprehending my grammar, just woke up*