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J Man Cool
12-10-2006, 12:29 AM
It's my favorite mainly due to it's semi-uu nature.

The fact that I've won a Smogon Tour with it before shows that it's a tough cookie to crack.

Articuno ** Wow
- Blizzard
- Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Rest

With the monstrous 348 special attack, Articuno is a great lead, guarenteed to hit practically anything hard that isn't water. While double STAB isn't wise on a usual basis, the fact that it's only there as a Grass (and hopefully Gengar!) killer and Physical tank gives it no reason to walk around with mimic, hyper beam, or even double edge on here.

Venusaur ** Howdy
- Body Slam
- Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder
- Swords Dance

A rather decent sweeper once Exeggutor becomes somewhat injured. Razor Leaf's ch rate makes it a dandy attack, especially for the random Tobybros left in the RBY standard metagame.

Raichu ** Ho-chu
- Body Slam
- Surf
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Before I realized how lame Wrap was, Tentacruel had this position, and only worked to somewhat avail. With Raichu, I can actually absorb some electric attacks, and more paralysis support can't hurt.

Hypno ** A sexy chansey
- Counter
- Psychic
- Rest
- Thunder Wave

Counter Hypno is rather fun, I must say. Psychic Snorlax on the switch, Counter the Body Slam, and finished him off with another Psychic. He's a very supurb special sponge, and the fact that he isn't Chansey is just cooler. Eggy can't beat Hypno (without the use of Explosion) if Hypno is paralyzed.

Slowbro ** OMG no way
- Amnesia
- Rest
- Surf
- Thunder Wave

Lately, I have been using Toby for his original purpose (bless Wintermute), but I basically love his physical-sponging ability, with added Psychic resistance and Thunder Wave. It's rather difficult for the opposing team to beat through both Arti and this, especially since most physical sweepers in RBY (Tauros, Rhydon, persian, Snorlax, Dodrio) have mediocre special stats.

Tauros ** RAWR!
- Blizzard
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Hyper Beam

Something every team should consider. He's a great benefactor to sweeping.


This is more of a "I'm going to try to post here again" topic than a necessary desired team rate. Many people will note that I have a Chansey problem, due to the sponging abilities that tub of lard creates, but with proper prediction, Tauros can come in against a 60% health and fire away with Body Slam/Hyper Beam.

I love this team.

SpringChocobo
12-10-2006, 09:16 AM
The team looks pretty good to me, but the Articuno and Tauros are confusing. Why Blizzard and Ice Beam for Articuno? Double STAB isn't a good idea PERIOD, and because of Articuno's Special, Ice Beam alone could do the job. For Tauros, why would Blizzard be necessary if a). you already have an uber ice type and b) Tauros has a mediocre at best Special? He should be the speedy physical sweeper. Earthquake can take Rhydon and Golem out.

I know there must be some hidden strategy that I am unaware of...

MagicBarrier
12-10-2006, 09:51 AM
lol.

He explained why he has double STAB on Articuno. Blizzard on Tauros is for Rhydon and Golem (possibly Eggy? I dunno, I'm not that good at RBY).



I'm pretty sure I've seen this team on the Smogon forums before.

J Man Cool
12-10-2006, 10:13 AM
Most competitive battlers consider the fact that since Articuno's 348 special has only ice type-attacks to benefit, most like to have Blizzard and Ice Beam to compensate for the lack of PP. Basically, what else would you really attack with?

Another aspect is to use both attacks for different purposes. For the sure-fire KO or for the freeze platform, one will use Ice Beam; for the purpose of the strongest Special Attack in the game from a non-Über (btw, none of the legendary birds are considered Über in any of the Pokemon generation metagames), we use Blizzard.


As for Tauros, while the 238 special isn't deemed exactly awesome, it serves as a couple great uses:

1) It does significant damage to Golem and Rhydon. These bad boys, while certainly damaged by Earthquake, have massive defenses accompanied by meager specials. Pretty much, there is the comparison of a 100-base attack on 298 attack to a 358 Golem /338 Rhydon defense or a 120-base attack off a 238 Special to 208 Golem/ 188 Rhydon. Plus, it's good against the random Sandslash in the area.

2) It has a chace for freeze, which is always nifty.

3) The only other viable move for him would be Thunder for Cloyster, and personally, 70% accuracy isn't many's cup of tea in rby.

SpringChocobo
12-10-2006, 10:15 AM
lol.

He explained why he has double STAB on Articuno. Blizzard on Tauros is for Rhydon and Golem (possibly Eggy? I dunno, I'm not that good at RBY).



I'm pretty sure I've seen this team on the Smogon forums before.

lol...I already explained my point.

Of course, I'm only experienced with R/S, EV's and such. RBY confuses me so I try to avoid it.

70% accuracy for Blizzard isn't a "cup of tea" either. But whatever floats your boat. I'm moderatley inexperienced, so don't take my constructional criticism very seriously :P

J Man Cool
12-10-2006, 07:27 PM
obviously it must confuse you....lol

Blizzard's accuracy in rby is 90%, not 70%

SpringChocobo
12-11-2006, 03:44 PM
Wow...and I read the info on Smogon before I even posted that. Must have been looking at later games. o_0

clown master
12-15-2006, 01:27 PM
JMC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

CM Misses his old friends. =(

Other than the Chansey weakness you stated in your first post, there really isn't anything I see that should be changed.

Doctor Unne
03-16-2007, 10:55 AM
What if Articuno had Mimic and ended up with Amnesia or Recover? I'm not sure if Substitute is banned in this context, but it's great against switch-outs and a Reflected Articuno Sub will often take 2 or more rounds to break.

Have you considered Reflect on Raichu? You'd still have 2 paralyzers.

It's very refreshing to see someone using Hypno instead of Alakazam. And cleverly using Counter where many will be expecting Reflect. Hypno can Counter attacks that would KO Alakazam.

Mr.Missingno
04-22-2007, 03:10 PM
obviously it must confuse you....lol

Blizzard's accuracy in rby is 90%, not 70%

wow :eek: no wonder blizzard never really misses in my game.

Doctor Unne
04-23-2007, 03:00 PM
Do you really need to do all that Resting? Submission on Hypno or Slowbro or Double Edge/Hyper Beam on Articuno could help with Chansey. Earthquake is halfway decent against Rhydon/Golem/Onix (not that anyone but me ever uses the last one...I hate OHKO bans); I'd go with Thunder on Tauros (is it incapable of learning 'bolt?). But then, not many people share my taste in tea.

Cloggerdude
05-15-2007, 09:09 AM
Wow, this team sucks.

Use a cool pokemon like Sandslash.

Doctor Unne
05-15-2007, 11:46 AM
Tchyeah, cuz everyone knows coolness is what wins battles.

Not that Sandslash isn't good though.

GalacticDonut
05-24-2007, 09:51 AM
Tchyeah, cuz everyone knows coolness is what wins battles.

Not that Sandslash isn't good though.

Raticate = Coolness
I miss the battle simulator:

ThaMasta's ALAKAZAM used psychic!
KingKoffing's RATICATE's special fell!
KingKoffing's RATICATE at 1% health.
========
KingKoffing's RATICATE used hyper beam!
Critical hit!
alakazam fainted!
ThaMasta's ALAKAZAM at 0% health.

Mist_Shinobi
06-04-2007, 06:57 PM
Instead of Raichu, try Jolteon or Zapdos. Although Raichu can deal with ground types better, these other two have much better stats.

Doctor Unne
06-14-2007, 09:33 PM
Instead of Raichu, try Jolteon or Zapdos. Although Raichu can deal with ground types better, these other two have much better stats.

Raichu is also significantly better than Jolteon at physical attacks (unless you want Pin Missile), and it lacks Zapdos' Ice/Rock weaknesses. Zapdos also lacks Electric resistance.

Ieatemokids43
07-13-2007, 09:01 PM
Counter on Hypno? That's a good idea. I am going through Blue version at the moment so I may give that a shot. I don't really need Hypnosis, obviously.