View Full Version : Pokemon MMORPG - You know you want one!
Marik
05-28-2004, 08:36 PM
No, there has been no word from Nintendo that there ever going to make one, but it would make for the sweetest, more kick arse MMORPG going! If the Nintendo President has gotten a brain like he says he has then maybe he will give the N5 some sorta Online capability for the sole fact of a Pokemon MMORPG.
I'd pay $12 a month for that, and just think about how unfathomable and awesome it would be. I created this post to see what everyone would want to see in a Pokemon MMORPG. Here's what I'd wanna see.
- All Pokemon available for capture EXCEPT the Legendary ones/Singular ones (as this would be rather unfair).
- Real Pokemon League (actual tournament between players).
- All the areas from the games (Kanto, Johto, Hoen, The Orange Islands, and any other Regions they ever decide to throw in there).
- More then 8 gyms per region (16+ per region would rule).
- Less emphasis on becoming a Pokemon Master and more emphasis on what the player wants to be (Pokemon Trainer, Pokemon Breeder, Pokemon Coordinator, Item Creator/Seller, among many other possibilities. Maybe even opening up your own Gym?).
- Keyboard Interaction! Headsets are great and all, but talking to people in real time like that just wouldnt seem like Pokemon.
- Clan/Group creation (basically you can create your own group with whatever purpose and be able to create your groups symbol using simplistic vector drawings).
- Larger area's/walking distance! I wanna feel like I've been walking for days when I've only be traveling for about 5-20 minutes.
- Pokemon Training. I dont mean fighting other Pokemon, I mean doing things with your Pokemon to increase a stat(s) of thiers or to increase the accuracy/power of one of thier attacks.
- Customizable Characters (I think characters should start off with Basic clothing from a set which they can choose from and then have to buy new clothing. As for other things, people should be able to choose from many different hairstyles and hair colors as well as eye colors and facial hair for the guys. Also, actual customization of your characters frame (body shape) would be sweet too) with the ability to buy clothes as you make money and the ability to chance hairstyles/hair colors.
- Shining Pokemon and Oddity Colors Pokemon (just something that would be ever so cool).
- Better Pokemon Breeding (so you could actually breed them yourself, also getting rid of some of the silly things, like Nidoqueens not being able to breed with Nidokings).
- 3 Accounts (basically, when you sign up you get 3 accounts to play around with, just incase you want to try something different from your other character(s)).
- Character Profiles (this would keep track of your characters Win/Loss/Draw records as well as other things like that, but would also have room for lots of other information you could put in yourself, kinda like an MSN Profile).
- Double-Character Animations (you know that MMORPG's come hand in hand with online romances, wether they be just In Character or if they extend to OOC. Either way, couples should be able to hold hands, hug, and all that General rated stuff).
- Larger array of Starter Pokemon (face it, not everyone in the Pokemon world starts off with a Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Totodile, Chickorita, Cindaquil, Treecko, Torchic, or Mudkip. That and it would make it alot more original and alot more fun to play around in).
Well, thats all I got for now. Lets hear your input! Who knows, maybe Nintendo will stumble across this and go "That is an amazing idea!" Unlikely, but we can always hope.
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Charninja
05-28-2004, 11:57 PM
Obviuously, the more things you can do in an MMORPG, the better.
One f the BIG things I would LOVE to see is the ability for people to create their own gym, but only after winning regularly scheduled contests and tournaments. They would HAVE to follow strict guidelines as to what types of pokemon and what their levels could be. Gym leaders are supposedto be tough, but they need to lose inorder for their to be any fun. A create a gym feature would be sweet as well, since we all know that the more challenging gym leaders also tend to have nice little puzzles that need to be solved. Somebody could check every once in a while to make sure it isn't insanely difficult and appropriate.
Now in an expansion set, there should be the ability to create your own evil league, or at least make it an option. I would LOVE to be able to finally join team rocket after all of this time.
I also think that the gym leaders, the elites, and the other major important people should all actually be real people. Heck, if we could get morimoto to play every once in a while, sheer pwnage would ensue.
Seeker
05-29-2004, 02:05 AM
Just my two cents.
> One f the BIG things I would LOVE to see is the ability for people to create
> their own gym, but only after winning regularly scheduled contests and
> tournaments.
Perhaps in order to qualify for running a gym your required to have 8 badges and pass a specific test like the elite as they are now where you pick your pokemon and then to win 5 battles with only what you carry?
> They would HAVE to follow strict guidelines as to what types of pokemon
> and what their levels could be. Gym leaders are supposedto be tough, but
> they need to lose inorder for their to be any fun.
Perhaps when applying for a gym you have to give a specific type of pokemon e.g. dark which is the only one your allowed to use or your license is taken away? As for the level maybe a grading scale for gyms where depending on where you are on the scale your only allowed to use pokemon up to level x e.g. a F class Ranking can only use Pokemon up to level 10 while an A class can use pokemon up to level 60 and each level has its own test to qualify for?
> A create a gym feature would be sweet as well, since we all know that the
> more challenging gym leaders also tend to have nice little puzzles that
> need to be solved. Somebody could check every once in a while to make
> sure it isn't insanely difficult and appropriate.
Expanding on my earlier comments perhaps a gym store where you buy gym traps and what's available depends on your license?
> Now in an expansion set, there should be the ability to create your own
> evil league, or at least make it an option. I would LOVE to be able to finally
> join team rocket after all of this time.
Interesting thought?
> I also think that the gym leaders, the elites, and the other major important
> people should all actually be real people. Heck, if we could get morimoto to
> play every once in a while, sheer pwnage would ensue.
I can see gym leaders working if its split between real and computer generated ones so that the first people buying it have someone to play against. The elites perhaps could be split into an upper league and traveller with the upper league being the same as the current elite 4 while the travellers are the top X amount of players based on points earned as a registered league competitor? I mean you register for the Indigo league in Kanto and then earn so many points a gym leader or elite and your position in a regularly scheduled tournament like the one Ash was in? I don't think major important people would really work though since they wouldn't alway's be around and if they got bored they might permanently leave.
Still I like the ideas of having all non-legendary/single pokemon catchable and all the regions visitable and a customizeable character.
Marik
05-29-2004, 02:30 AM
Yeah, you'd just do what they did with Star Wars Galaxies. Pay staff members to play the game as important well known people, and let celebrities play as newly created people that are semi-famous/famous in the MMORPG (just like how Wierd Al has his own character in Star Wars Galaxies).
And on the part of Becomming a Gym Leader, I think it should be a journy kinda thing as well. Gym Leaders would have to have pokemon of varying levels so that he/she will be able to compete with other trainers of all levels, ranging from Novice to Pro. This would also ensure that there wouldnt be Gyms popping up all over the place.
I think Pokedollers should be a key role in alot in the game. Not only for buying Pokeballs, Healing Items, and other stuff like that, but also grooming items, clothing (for yourself or even your Pokemon), professional breeding, buying your own gym/store, among many other things.
Pokemon has ALOT of potential as an MMORPG. The levels of depth that could be added to the game would keep players playing it for months, if not years, before any form of update or expansion would be needed. If the area's were bigger (which they probably would be) it would take alot longer to get to each place and to go through each Region, but it would still be fun, especially if you can find a Party.
Thats something else I need to suggest. Partying. People should be able to form Parties. Wanna travel with a group of friends, but dont wanna get left behind while they treck ahead? No problem, form up a Party. As long as half or more of the party is active you wont need to worry about getting left behind. On the downside if over half the party decides to "Set Up Camp" then whomever's left will either have to quit the party or be restricted to a good sized area around the camp site. This could cause problems with some people but it would also be very cool to actually travel with other people like this.
Im also a heavy supporter of creating your own Gang/Team/Group/Clan/Etc. A logo creator would be painfully simple to create so you could give your group a feel all its own. Or, if you dont wanna join/create a user-made group, you could always try to join one of the "Big Three", Team Rocket, Team Magma, or Team Aqua. Hey, who knows, your "Team" may escalate up to the ranks of the "Big Three" and your team would become big time players as well.
I should make Banners and Avatars for everyone to stick on all thier Forum Avatars and Signatures, little things that say "I Support a Pokemon MMORPG" or something along those lines. Maybe eventually some staff from Nintendo will see all the supporters of people wanting to see a Pokemon MMORPG and actually start the long process of making one.
Marik
05-29-2004, 10:40 PM
Anyone else? I wanna hear everyone's input and suggestions (as long as thier productive and nothing along the lines of "MMORPG's suck" or "Pokemon sucks").
Dr. Blaine
05-30-2004, 11:08 AM
(just like how Wierd Al has his own character in Star Wars Galaxies).
Really? what charachter is he? or is that unknown?
Anyways, I'm not sure if anyone knows this, but I thik i've mentioned that it would be cool to have a pokemon online game before this thread... Not as a thread of its own, of corse. But i have some ideas of my own that I think would be cool for Pokemon cubed (as I refur to it as, with a small three after the word Pokemon)
1. I think there should be voice recognicion, and microphones, so that you can combat by saying commands as opposed to taking turns battleing. I find the way they battle on the tv show to be a lot more interesting than the way the GB game does it. they ought to not use the turn based method for more intence and iteresting battles.
2. althogh I agree that you should be able to custimze your charachter, there should be rules about how your charachter can look, making shure everyone looks decent!
3. They should include certian charachters from the GB game and tv show, and either have them be computer controled or hire someone to play as them, such as the professors (like oak) (have you ever noticed that they all curiously are named after trees?), Bill, and mabey Ash & friends, the team rocket members (like Jessie and james) and the gym leaders we know like brock, giovanni, erika, and blaine.
4. We shouldn't be alowed to capture one of a kind pokemon like moltres, zapdos, Articuno, and the legendary dogs. And if they do allow people to, they should have consiquences such as what happens in pokemon 2(000)
Oh, wait, yah, lastly, it ought to be available for Mac too...That way I can play! :D
That's all I have to say for now. What do you think?
FISSURE
05-30-2004, 04:36 PM
Yes a pokemon MMORPG would truly be awesome.
MonkeyMasterTao9
05-30-2004, 04:47 PM
Great idea, Marik! You can make me a signature for I Support MMORG, ya know.
I think it would be cool to journey on the computer, meeting REAL people. We could also trade quickly. They should let us go into like an evil organization. I really want to go into Team Aqua!
Maybe they should let one account be a party account, so a group of 4 could travel like Misty/May, Brock, Ash, Max/Tracey.
They should give like 5 accounts!
They should give us like a better battle tactic, like the show. (someone already said some of the stuff i said)
Great idea! I call dibs. lol
Charninja
05-30-2004, 04:49 PM
Main problem with creating a pokemon MMORPG is the fact that it will be a cold day in hell before nintendo creates something for the PC (or even the mac). It would almost HAVE to be played on the gamecube, or whatever console nintendo has at the time. And we all know the problems nintendo has with online play...
Another major problem (as someone mentioned) is that it would be very difficult for people to actually play all of the major characters. IT is not outside the realm of posibility that this thing could get so far out of hand that it would take nearly as many people playing those characters as their would have to be people actually playing the game. And of course, if you have your eyes set on a specific gym leader and he doesn't happen to be on for some reason (who knows? there could be a family emergency, surgery, or be held up in traffic), then you would have to wait until they came. And of course, lines would be a humongous problem. I wouldn't be surprised if several HUNDRED people tried to battle for a badge in just one day. No way in heck could anybody wait that long.
Things that could be done to fix that problem, of course, is to simplify the process as much as possible. Actual battling is done by the computer, except under certain conditions (the player actually wants to battle, or it's a qualifying match, or something of the like). It wouldn't be too hard to make a simple program to just battle on it's own, I mean, heck, they do it all the time. Only difference is, they could use actualy battle tactics and strategies provided by the player. If a leader is typically pretty agressive in his battling, the computer could just make it so that the pokemon almost always attack, and the same could be done for more defensive minded trainers. Actual skill level could be "dumbed down" according to the number of badges the challenger currently has. Obviously, the more badges, the harder the battle.
The actual person could just do things like organize what pokemon will be used for the day, any specific strategies to use or try out. Also make announcements and so forth, and of course, talk to other players. Should he notice that one trainer is doing exceptionally well, he could talk to them, and also point out weaknesses to another player about their team.
And of course, if it happens to be a slow day, he could just do everything manually.
Oh, and another thing, every badge should be personalized for the gym leader. Really personalized. Not just some collored pixels like what could be done for banners and what not. I mean they actually talk to the art department about what they want their badge to look like, and up it comes when they approve it.
I would also like to see a way to personalize how one throws out pokeballs as well, adding various twirls, hand gestures, etc, so that every person has their own way of calling a pokemon out, or catching one.
Pokeballistic
06-01-2004, 01:38 AM
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THE HELL DOES NINTENDO NOT RELEASE THEIR POKEMON GAMES FOR THE PC? :mad: . It would be profitable for them and fun for us. I mean can you imagine what a metronome would look like in full 3D. :)
Charninja
06-01-2004, 09:53 AM
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THE HELL DOES NINTENDO NOT RELEASE THEIR POKEMON GAMES FOR THE PC? :mad: . It would be profitable for them and fun for us. I mean can you imagine what a metronome would look like in full 3D. :)
Quite frankly... They just don't want to. I could be wrong, but, for the most part at least, PCs are nowhere NEAR as big as consoles are in Japan. Here PCs and consoles are about equal.
Also, of course, there are more than a few successful console MMORPGs out there. Phantasy star online, FFXI (out for both the PC and the PS2), and a few others.
If they ever gave a Pokemon MMORPG any thought, they could easily make one for their next console.
NOT_CRAZY
06-01-2004, 10:24 AM
sorry for me asking but what is a MMORPG
Charninja
06-01-2004, 10:47 AM
MMORPG = Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.
You have several thousand people playing a roleplaying game (usually high fantasy, with elves and orcs and dragons and so forth), at the same time. They may interact with each other, and such behavior is typically rewarded in the sense of being able to take down significantly tougher enemies, and therefore get even more experience and treasure.
The main problem with a Pokemon RPG is that... ther really isn't any POINT to grouping, not that I can see. With VERY few exceptions, all battles are one trainer versus another, and pokemon don't typically attack in swarms. Certainly not in the videogames. Clanning and belonging to teams and so forth certainly does make sense, but actually having PARTIES of people does not. Not unless every person brings something to the table.
Granted, that may not be too hard to do. All that would have to be done is integrate a "basic necessities" rule. Every player can only trek and journey and be "awake" for X amount of time, depending on age, experience, and several other factors. They would need to eat, they would need sleeping bags and so forth.
Trainers could bring pokemon to the fore, as in be able to use them outside of battle to solve puzzles (using vinewhip to flip far away switches, ember to light torches and melt ice, water gun to put things on fire out, among any number of other things).
Breeders could become absolutely NECESSARY to parties, because they would prepare food, for BOTH pokemon and other party members. You could still buy food from stores and so forth, but it would be expensive, take up space in your inventory, and would have nowhere near as big a rejuventing effect on pokemon as "homemade" chow would. Also, they could make pokemon look pretty, lol. Almost necessary for coordinators and breeders to party together.
Coordinators could be the cash cows. By winning (or at least oing relatively well) they could bring in several times more money than trainers OR breeders in battle, and therefor make getting stuff in general so much more easy. Also, they could prove vital in getting necessary items form NPCs because of their (almost always) more convivial nature. They are typically jut NICER, and NPCs that are gruff and even mean to other types of players would have their hearts melted by kind, sweet coordinator.
That's the job system. Now here's what I was thinking: we also institute a class system as well. Every game has trainer "classes: (swimmers, hikers, cooltrainers, that sort of thing). Each trainer class would bring other things out as well.
Cooltrainers would gernerally be better at pokemon battles. Not to much different from say... warriors and so forth from other MMORPGS.
Hikers would have significantly better stamina and could easily go a good deal longer than other trainers could.
Bug catchers... collect and sell bugs. They bring in money.
Swimmers would not need a pokemon that knows surf in order to to traverse water. At least in some areas, especially in doors and getting items.
There are probably quite a few other things out there, but these are just some examples.
NOT_CRAZY
06-01-2004, 11:38 AM
Wow. Sounds awesome :cool:
Dr. Blaine
06-01-2004, 03:03 PM
I, for one, do not think that a "class" system would be a good idea. Even on the tv show, not that many people actually join parties...and it might be very difficult to do so on a MMORPG. It would put those who can't or don't want to join a party at a great dissadvantage
[QUOTE=Charninja]Breeders could become absolutely NECESSARY to parties, because they would prepare food, for BOTH pokemon and other party members. You could still buy food from stores and so forth, but it would be expensive, take up space in your inventory, and would have nowhere near as big a rejuventing effect on pokemon as "homemade" chow would.[/QUOTE=Charninja]
Biggest flaw i see with this is that in pokemon, being able to cook has absolutely nothing to do with being a pokemon breeder. example: Bruno- when we see him in the tv show, it never says or indicates in anyway tha bruno is or ever was a pokemon breeder. yet what is he able to do? Cook
[QUOTE=Charninja]Coordinators could be the cash cows.[/QUOTE=Charninja]
what is a coordinator, anyways?
[QUOTE=Charninja]Bug catchers... collect and sell bugs. They bring in money. [/QUOTE=Charninja]
I see two flaws with that-1.I don't see any way you actually make money off capturing bug pokemon. who's going to buy them?
2.I don't see why anyone would want to have such a boring job.
[QUOTE=Charninja]That's the job system. Now here's what I was thinking: we also institute a class system as well. Every game has trainer "classes: (swimmers, hikers, cooltrainers, that sort of thing). Each trainer class would bring other things out as well.[/QUOTE=Charninja]
Swimmers, hikers, cooltrainers, and all those other sorts of things are not, i repeat, not classes in the pokemon RPGs. they only indicate what type of pokemon the trainer has and their personality. not their job.
Charninja
06-01-2004, 03:20 PM
Hey, Blaine, eveything is just an idea here. Besides, Breeders do tend to have their own recipes, as I understand it. Cooking may not be important to many other games or even the show, but it does lend a sense of realism... sort of. Also, you could of course have skills other than your class. You just wouldn't be able to specialize nearly as much. You could still cook and so forth, but you wouldn't be nearly as good as an actual Breeder, and the effects it would have on Pokemon would show.
For bug catchers... I admit... bad example. I was just thinking that there are people who do collect bugs, and do make a bit of money for it. Remember Animal Crossing? The same could be done with Fishermen.
Coordinators are from the TV show. May is tring to become one. Remember in Ruby and Saphire? Coordinators are people that enter and win contests instead of battling, at least for the most part. Any body could enter (and win) a contest, it's just that coordinators and breeders go hand in hand, considering what they try to do. Also, coordintors, due to their chosen path, would necessarily be more charasmatic and persuasive.
Again, everything was just an idea. No need to blow up at me.
Pokeballistic
06-01-2004, 06:48 PM
Guys i have to say you have awesome ideas :) I have a suggestion about the legendries. Do they realy have to be one of a kind. I mean there are 4 areas in pokemon uptill now and in each area 3 of each legendry would be there. It may sound unfair.. but they could make obtaining them very difficult. For example to get a articunos in Kanto you would have to climb a very tall mountain while avoiding snowstorms and avalanches.In Orange islands you would have to go underwater and into a hidden icy cave while your stamina drops slowly and if you faint you have to start all over again. Therefore only very few wil get them. Now this may still seem unfair but.. After all legendries have been caught, new ones will pop up. So ultimately everyone can get every legendry pokemon. But in this case nintendo should balance things out otherwise after a couple of months it will only be legendry VS. legendry. Therefore a high level blastoise would be able to defeat an overpowered moltres. Just a suggestion Guys.
Charninja
06-01-2004, 09:01 PM
Guys i have to say you have awesome ideas :) I have a suggestion about the legendries. Do they realy have to be one of a kind. I mean there are 4 areas in pokemon uptill now and in each area 3 of each legendry would be there. It may sound unfair.. but they could make obtaining them very difficult. For example to get a articunos in Kanto you would have to climb a very tall mountain while avoiding snowstorms and avalanches.In Orange islands you would have to go underwater and into a hidden icy cave while your stamina drops slowly and if you faint you have to start all over again. Therefore only very few wil get them. Now this may still seem unfair but.. After all legendries have been caught, new ones will pop up. So ultimately everyone can get every legendry pokemon. But in this case nintendo should balance things out otherwise after a couple of months it will only be legendry VS. legendry. Therefore a high level blastoise would be able to defeat an overpowered moltres. Just a suggestion Guys.
Slightly better idea.
The legendaries could act as bosses. They COULD be captured, but could never be used in a "sanctioned" battle. Only against other trainers that decided they were allowed to.
Alternatively, they could still be bosses, but make them impossible to catch. I doubt there would be any masterballs for this game, since that would just be WAY to cheap. Or, you could always limit it the number of masterballs you get to one, and ban ID keys or whatever if a player ends up with more than one, or has more tha none pokemon that were captured by a masterball and were not traded to him.
Seeker
06-01-2004, 09:03 PM
I think its Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
Dr. Blaine
06-02-2004, 10:22 AM
Hey, Blaine, eveything is just an idea here.
Remember Animal Crossing?
No need to blow up at me.
1.i know. I was just trying to state what I found as flaws in your ideas. Sorry if i offended you. :o
2.Actually, no. I've heard of it, but i've never played it and i doubt i could know less about it than i already do.
3.Sorry, i did't mean to sound like i was angry. :(
Busterslash35
06-02-2004, 10:45 AM
To Seeker: I guess you missed the Page 2 button, didn't you?
Anyway, one thing I am kinda concerned about is Pkmn Center speed. Would it be instant like in the game, or would it take a day or two to keep the realism?
On the legendary issue, I'm thinking they could use the random encounter thing like with the 3 Beasts in G/S/C. Whenever you're in a region connected to that particular legendary, it MIGHT appear randomly. Say you're having a thunderstorm(if any at all, but they really should include weather) then a Zapdos might pop up randomly, if in a field of grass by a powerplant or such, a Raikou. Or in any field of grass by a lake or body of water, a Suicune might randomly appear, and at the icy peak of a mountain, an Articuno. They would take damage as normal but after encounters, they regain bit of their HP so as to not make it easier catching for another trainer. (Like if Trainer A happened to run into Suicune while he was in a bad state HP-wise, he might damage him down to 1 via False Swipe or other. Then Suicune would run. Then Trainer B happens to run into the 1 HP Suicune much later and catch him, no sweat.) They would only be released into the wild for certain events and if no one caught it, it would be taken out of the wild until they release it for another event. Like legendary season. Or something.
Pokeballistic
06-02-2004, 12:15 PM
Hmmm... Guys do you think there is a way to request nintendo about making this game.I mean if they have a suggestion box for future games we could give them our idea for the next Pokemon game.There is a 50% chance they will ignore it but the least we could do is to get them to think about it. I recently found out that some guy was trying to write a book based on the story of a game called Chrono Trigger. And to get permission to publish it he was making people sign a petition so he could tell the makers of the game that how many people want it. We could also try something like this. Even though this may be very far out.. still if we succeed, we will have UNLIMITED FUNNN!! :)
Undrave
06-02-2004, 06:22 PM
I dunno if Nintendo would listen to our precise demand, but they woul listen to the fact we are interested in Pokémon online play.
I think a VERY LARGE(as in it takes time to get somewhere without a bike or other means of transportation) Pokémon world like the one on TV would make for the best MMORPG. Having choice of career could be interesting, you could use Pokémons outside of battle for various tasks and with various career you might not hae to wander around like a trainer. You could make stuff, grow berries or plants and blend Pokéblocks and natural potions and stuff and have your own shop. I don't think it woul be a good idea to have a party system that would be too strict, but people could just travel together if they wanted to.
I think the focus should be more on the journey and the meeting of battle, just like the TV show, than just winning an being the best... but there has to be contests and real Pokémon league.
As for being a Gym Leader thing... maybe you could start out as a gym trainer, weeding out the competition for the Gym Leader and like gaining experience or something. I liked the proposed idea of having the computer run the battles, but a real person interact with other players outside of battle.
Secret bases would be all over the place XD.
More than one startng town per-region (I mean the show got HUNDREDS of cities that never appear in the games ) with various choice for starter... maybe a town could only have 1 starter, or some could have relatively unloved Pokémon as starter... for exemple I'd love to try to begin a game with a Jigglypuff or a Rattata, just for the challange.
Forms of training beside battle would be cool too... having NPC teach moves to your Pokémon instead of just TMs and HMs would be interesting.
Using FLY would put you in control of your Pokémon in the air ^^ just like SURF on water.
Oh and as for the 'class' of trainer for the game... they could be used as basic looks for characters.
I like the idea of 'Legendary season', having the Legendary move around and sometime just not being there, to limit their availability. Maybe give rewards for taking a picture of it!
Oooh...idea for a new class...photographer :p
I bet Nintendo WANTS to do one but they got so much idea they have no idea where to start :p
They could have the card game inside the game, so some player could concentrate on playing in card leagues and not being trainers at all!
Dr. Blaine
06-02-2004, 07:15 PM
Well, if they don't know where to start, they could check places like this! We've got plenty of ideas as where to start. they could do opinion polls- find out what people want and give it to them
Undrave
06-02-2004, 07:34 PM
I meant that the sum of work for such game would be ENORMOUS to meet the demand of the fans.
Marik
06-02-2004, 09:24 PM
I didnt mean for it to be for PC or Mac! I was insinuating that Nintendo might take the initiative and make one of thier platforms more Online compatible, that way they could not only keep it within Nintendo, but also boost the sales of thier system. Im glad to see everyone is really diggin the idea and is offering thier own! ^_^
I'm currently in the process of making Banners and Buttons for the "I Support Pokemon MMORPG!" cause, maybe I'll even make an MSN Groups community for people to obsess over it and get other people to join in with the discussions and stuff.
Charninja
06-02-2004, 09:34 PM
New idea that I just came up with:
Personality profiles. At the creation of each account you have to answer a questionaire, about 20 to 25 questions to determine your personality, which wil become part of your profile and may not be changed without a nearly exhorbitant cost in cash. Several hundred-thousand pokedollars to begin with, and a few more thousand every time afterwards.
What it would do is give you certain bonuses for dealing with certain pokemon of compatable personalities, types, and strategies. Typically hot blooded people would be best with fire types. Cool or cold hearted people would do best with ice types. Serious people would be best for psychic, ground, or rock types, that sort of thing. It could also influence the way NPCs interract with them, though everything would have to be balanced so that no one personality has the easiest time. Several different results would also be required.
I'm actually kinda thinking of what they had for dragon warrior something or other, the one for the gameboy color that was a remake of an older one.
Oh yeah... nearly all of them are remakes. I'm sure you guys can figure it out.
Marik
06-02-2004, 10:02 PM
We'll here's the banners so far. Support the cause!
(NOTE: Please, save the pictures and upload to your own place)
http://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/Marik736/7f25d418.jpg
http://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/Marik736/f86fbccb.jpg
Pokeballistic
06-02-2004, 11:08 PM
Undrave you said that that Nintendo would listen if we said we were interested in Pokemon Online play.Then why dont we find a way to tell them. Remember, suggestion box (if they have one that is).Oh, Marik, nice Banners. Guys what about Pokemon sports cometitions? I mean like the P-1 Grand Prix from the show.Here is how it will work. As soon as you choose your pokemon you will gain control of it. Then you have to give punches & kicks to the opponent all the while your pokemeter fills. When it does then you can do a special attack like Hitmonlee's muti kick. Another competition could be pokemon aero race. In this you will choose a flying pokemon that you can sit on like Charizard or Aerodactyl. When the race begins you will gain control of your pokemon. By tapping a button you will be able to flap the wings (acceleration). By holding it down you can glide and you will control its direction with the Joystick. You can also ram other opponents to delay them. An aerometer will fill as long you ram soebody. And when it completly fills up you can do a special speed enhancing move,like the rush attack.
Charninja
06-02-2004, 11:20 PM
I tired googling for a site that allowed you to make nline petitions, but all that came up was a bunch of PETA crap. Dangit! When can we live in a world where we can have our tasty steaks AND our Pokemone MMORPGs!?
Pokeballistic
06-03-2004, 12:41 AM
ALERT! ALERT! Guys I have just found a site that allows you to make online petitions.The site is..www.gopetition.com
Marik
06-03-2004, 02:48 AM
http://www.gopetition.com/online/4506.html
Go sign! Then E-Mail to everyone in the world and get them to sign! We will have our precious MMORPG before the year is out! MWAHAHA! *cough* Sorry, got carried away there.
Pokeballistic
06-03-2004, 07:22 AM
Yahooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guys I Think By The End Of This Year We Will Definately Have Our Pokemon Mmorpg :d
Undrave
06-03-2004, 09:20 AM
Erhm... maybe we can hope to have it in the preproduction stage.
The thing is Nintendo doesn't really have a suggestion box, as far as I know ^^;
Sport competition is a great idea... they could start with just a few and add more as thing go on... ooh... like that race in the Ponyta/Rapidash episode!
Oooh... can you say 'Pokémon Racing Pro Circuit' just like F1 or NASCAR with various 'tracks' either on land (of various type), sea or in the air, tracks in the various region! Would be another possible job! You could first take part in stand alone race and then enter some form of league with people from your time zone and go up in the standing and stuff... and people could watch the race and even bet on it. Same for P-1.
Dr. Blaine
06-03-2004, 11:08 AM
How about not just races, but other kinds of sports too? like pokemon basketball, pokemon football, pokemon wrestling.....
They could make a whole new series-the Pokémon: Sports game linup!
by the way, Can I say on the petition that I want the online pokemon game avalable for mac, too? please? :o
Undrave
06-03-2004, 11:21 AM
I think all those Pokémon sports would be kinda crazy and just overdoing it, maybe invent a sport like a Poké-Ball :p That would be more Pokémony than just making some kind of Tiny Toon Sport game with Pokémons. I think the game shouldn't have a clear goal (like The World in .hack ) and it should focus on creating a whole universe where you can do lots and lots of various thing and take various path in your virtual life.
Aaah the Pokémon universe got like unlimited posibility... just the interaction betweem player character would be like the Sims Online XD You'll need a home with parents too to start from! Imagine the rows and rows of houses with just a mother in it like Ash :p
Charninja
06-03-2004, 12:12 PM
Hey, if they are all as hot as Ash's mom, I sure as heck won't be complaining ;) :D
Undrave
06-03-2004, 12:22 PM
:rolleyes: Ah Charninja hahahaha...
I bet you'd have your character live near the beach, just to get his mom in a bikini XD
Oooh... surfing... the game should have surfing! It shows up in the serie after all... surfing contest!
Can you say bug catching contest at the national park(s), the Safari Zone, maybe a fishing contest! A full array of fishing gear... maybe even the Misty Lures :p the ultimate rare lures a good fisherman would want!
Pokeballistic
06-04-2004, 12:05 AM
Speaking of the Sims, should'nt gym designing be in a Sim style. I mean you add walls,traps,aesthetics (Like those torches from Sabrina's gym).Then have your Gym leader look around and rate everything.I think there should be 3 types of sub-modes in Gym Trainer mode.Build Mode (already explained),Gym Mode (this will be in 3D and you will fight battles with trainers that come in as well as comment on them),finally Badge mode (In this you have to create your own badges using either defult customization or create your own unique badge in MS Paint and upload them into your game). One more thing if celebrity trainers like ash,gary,may are in the game then at what point of their training will they be in.If ash is in the game then i think a few weeks of game time later Brock (Pewter Leader) and Misty(Cerrulean Leader) wont be available instead you will have to fight the substitutes. Whats your opinion?
HaroldJ
06-04-2004, 06:16 AM
On the issue of why Nintendo doesn't exactly listen to suggestions is because of one thing. (I read this on the official Pokemon website.) Copyright issues and so forth. If they get their idea from somebody such as Undrave, then he needs to be paid for his idea. If he doesn't, then they are, in a way, stealing money from other people, and that's just not good.
Stupid legal issues...
Anyway, why not make an actual elite four? It can be set up like this:
0 A massive tournament can be set up.
0 Those with (ah, heck with it) 16 badges are qualified to enter.
0 There can be a cap of about 1024 people.
0 If that person doesn't show after a certain number of minutes, they are disqualified.
0 Since there is no real champion, the top four trainers are announced to be the elite four of that particular region.
Maybe they can get some cool looking outfit or accessory to wear when they walk around, just for showoff purposes.
Pokeballistic
06-04-2004, 07:11 AM
WOW! That would be cool. It would be annual and after 1 year of game time, it would be challanged again with the present elite four as the boss. But then another thing if you are a member of the elite four would'nt you have to travel in a group. And grouping is something IMO is not a popular idea
HaroldJ
06-04-2004, 07:51 AM
The only problem is that if there was an elite four, then none of the four are allowed to be in the same guild/party/group. If they implemented the 2 vs. 2 matches, two newbies facing two elite players would be really unfair.
Here's an interesting issue:
Would battles take place in real time? For instance, if a wild Pokemon were to be wandering around, could they make it where the first trainer to engage it battles it?
The details of it could be shown anywhere from the trainer getting out a pokeball to watching the pokemon attack each other (like in Pokemon Stadium). Heck, if two trainers were battling, they could draw a crowd and let them watch.
Another idea:
If a tournament were to be set up, I wonder if they could make "televisions" where you could watch the matches. So if you couldn't join, you could go to a city square, and watch tournament matches on a large screen television (note that it would probably be very crowded in those spaces, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players tried to sell stuff during that).
Undrave
06-04-2004, 08:36 AM
The only problem is that if there was an elite four, then none of the four are allowed to be in the same guild/party/group. If they implemented the 2 vs. 2 matches, two newbies facing two elite players would be really unfair.
Here's an interesting issue:
Would battles take place in real time? For instance, if a wild Pokemon were to be wandering around, could they make it where the first trainer to engage it battles it?
The details of it could be shown anywhere from the trainer getting out a pokeball to watching the pokemon attack each other (like in Pokemon Stadium). Heck, if two trainers were battling, they could draw a crowd and let them watch.
Another idea:
If a tournament were to be set up, I wonder if they could make "televisions" where you could watch the matches. So if you couldn't join, you could go to a city square, and watch tournament matches on a large screen television (note that it would probably be very crowded in those spaces, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players tried to sell stuff during that).
Personally my idea about matches is that you see the wild Pokémon wonder around doing stuff to make them look like real creature and you haveto 'bump' into them to engage to a battle, then it shift to a turn based style interface but with a time limit (It think they got that in FF games ) and from the 'outside' it looks like the two Pokémons (or more) in battle are just staring each other down but there could be an icon stating it's a battle. Other players could get closer and see the battle unfold.
I like the TV idea... you could buy a TV for your base or watch it at home. I think there should be a league tournament like..every month(either real time or game time) to make so not everybody enter at the same time. I also like the huge tournament idea for the Elite Four... maybe have it so only those who have won at least 1 tournament can participate... maybe you have to defeat one of the current Elite Four to become one and take their place... or maybe both. Huge gathering would be cool, I mean you go in a stadium and watch top notch battling and you could buy merchandise and souvenir or even sell them. I also like the cool costume idea for the elite 4, like Lance's dragon tamer costume :p. As far as I unerstand the Elite Four only gather for the league challenge, most of the time they're on their own.
I was thinking that maybe the region you start in could depend on where you live in the real world... for exemple if your asian you start in Kanto, American you can start anywhere in Hoenn etc... just so you really have to travel to get to the other places.
I also had another idea for a job: Police Officer! You could enter the police and help fight the criminal organisations beside Officer Jenny! Wouldn't that be neat? Maybe the police could be like the Crimsom Knight of The World in .hack//SIGN XD .
Aaah the posibility...
Maybe we should jsut stop talking about it, or they won't use ANY of our ideas for copyright issue.
Personally(in the HIGHLY unlikely event they would use one of my idea) I'd settle for just a part in the credits, a free copy of the game (don't even need to give me the console) and some free month of play...and MAYBE let me choose my starter XD No need for money.
Charninja
06-04-2004, 09:22 AM
Keep me in hookers and booze, and they can use whatever ideas of mine they want.
*might, possibly, be kidding*
Undrave
06-04-2004, 10:07 AM
Hookers and booze cost money, it would be simplier to just pay you and have you use the money to your own twisted desire.
I don't like the combination of hooker and booze... simply because the booze make you forget what happened.
Dr. Blaine
06-04-2004, 12:13 PM
However they choose to set up battleing, they should absolutly not use a turn based system.
Pokeballistic
06-04-2004, 12:49 PM
I was thinking that maybe the region you start in could depend on where you live in the real world... for exemple if your asian you start in Kanto, American you can start anywhere in Hoenn etc... just so you really have to travel to get to the other places. Undrave you said that that we would start from a region acording to the palce we are realy from. So soppose someone is from indonesia(Its In Oceana:Reigion between australia to asian coasts). They would start in Orange islands. It has no starter pokemon. Can you think of some?? Just a thought
Charninja
06-04-2004, 01:45 PM
However they choose to set up battleing, they should absolutly not use a turn based system.
Actually, I was thinking something along the lines of SUper Smash Bros. in terms of combat gameplay.
A = some normal attack, like scratch, tackle, or peck. It would not have too muchpower, butit would be really quick.
B = A slightly more powerful version of the A attack, only slower, like slash, slam, or Drill Peck.
Then, just like in Super Smash Bros., you could register various attacks to combinations of the control stick, the B button, and the A button. Ranged attacks like flamethrower, watergun, and gust could be directed by holding the B or A button, but the pokemon would be stuck in place for as long as it is attacking. Moves like dig and fly would give the user a VERY short time of invincibility, at least against most attacks attacks, but you would still have to get the timing right in order to attack. Moves like dive, waterfall, surf, and whirlpool could ONLY be used in aquatic areas, like pools, lakes, and beaches, as well as the ocean of course.
Another nifty thing to do would be to have various kinds of fields, especially for gym battles. Certain things would pop up, like air, water, or lava jets, or the floor could be covered in ice, or there could just be LOTS of rocks and trees that hinder accuracy and speed.
Marik
06-04-2004, 05:43 PM
On the issue of why Nintendo doesn't exactly listen to suggestions is because of one thing. (I read this on the official Pokemon website.) Copyright issues and so forth. If they get their idea from somebody such as Undrave, then he needs to be paid for his idea. If he doesn't, then they are, in a way, stealing money from other people, and that's just not good.
Stupid legal issues...
Actually, being somewhat knowledgeful of the legal system (at least as it concerns copywriting and such) there is a way around this. As long as everyone says that thier suggestions are of Open Content. There is, however, a catch-20 that comes with saying that the content you have listed is Open Content. See, Open Content means that your freely giving up your idea's to be used by anyone, anywhere, at any time. In other words, sure, we can get around the legal issue by saying all the stuff were suggesting is Open Content, but that means other MMORPG companies can take the idea's and use them for themselves.
There is another way around it as well. As long as you put somewhere in your post that you are freely giving these idea's to Nintendo to use as they like, without any payment or recognition being required, and that you are making this decision on a concious level and that you clearly understand that you will recieve no payment or recognition, then you can send the idea's into Nintendo (but dont be expecting them to give you anything if you turn around and all of a sudden want recognition for some idea you contributed).
I'm pretty sure there's other ways to get around the Intellectual Proporty thing. Give me some time and I'll think up some more.
Pokeballistic
06-05-2004, 02:59 AM
Hey Guys, I want to let you in on a simple secret of mine. I am from India and here presently Pokemon:The Jhoto Journes is going on(We would have had season 4 or 5 by now but thanks to the numerous repeats by Cartoon Network,it got delayed).By the way Pokemon was introduced here in 2002. So what season is goning on in the U.S. and Japan right now.
Undrave
06-06-2004, 03:22 PM
Undrave you said that that we would start from a region acording to the palce we are realy from. So soppose someone is from indonesia(Its In Oceana:Reigion between australia to asian coasts). They would start in Orange islands. It has no starter pokemon. Can you think of some?? Just a thought
We don't know that it has no starter Pokémon... but I dunno... maybe have the Orange Island being a mix of the three like Charmander, Chikorita and Mudkip... beside I think there should be more than one set of starter per region, depending on how hard you want the game to be... for exemple it would be harder to start with say a Ratata than one of the classic starter.
I wouldn't mind getting no payment... by maybe a credit in a 'special thanks to' part of the end game credits. As long as I can brag to my friends :p
And I like the Super smash Bros. idea... altough it would be more 3D... but I think it should still change perspective from the normal overworld to a field of battle with limits. The various field would be cool. You could modify tem during battle... like smash boulders, cut trees or dig trench on the ground and stuff.
Marik
06-11-2004, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't mind getting no payment... by maybe a credit in a 'special thanks to' part of the end game credits. As long as I can brag to my friends :p
Nintendo loves thier fans, and Im sure that they'd at least put down something along the lines of (in the Credits):
"Special Thanks to the I Support Pokemon Online group for thier wonderful idea's and insight"
That alone would just make me oh so happy and would seriously brighten up my day.
And to the dude that lives in Asia, I have no idea where Japan is currently, but where somewhere along the lines in the Hoen region for Episodes.
Charninja
06-12-2004, 06:07 PM
Hey Guys, I want to let you in on a simple secret of mine. I am from India and here presently Pokemon:The Jhoto Journes is going on(We would have had season 4 or 5 by now but thanks to the numerous repeats by Cartoon Network,it got delayed).By the way Pokemon was introduced here in 2002. So what season is goning on in the U.S. and Japan right now.
We Americans JUST finshed Ash's second duel with Brawly a few weeks ago, and have a bit more fluff. I think in Japan, they are a good ways further, I know Ash just beat Norman (or at least I assume, considering the name of the eepisode), and there was a bit more fluf there as well. Just know that Ash gets a Torkoal, evolves Tailow and Treeko, and Misty DOES come back for about three episodes.
I don't recall her having an opinion on May though...
Pokeballistic
06-15-2004, 09:12 AM
Hey guys, After about 1 week's abscence i'm back. Anyway i was on Serebii.net and saw the new Pokemon Gonbe being showcased. It is considered as the 1st of the 4th generation of Pokemon. It might be off topic but after 386 pokemon!! What else can they come up with? Any ideas :)
Undrave
06-15-2004, 05:52 PM
Well I'm still waiting for a beaver Pokémon XD
Undrave
06-15-2004, 06:00 PM
EDIT: oops...
jolteonjak
06-23-2004, 12:34 PM
MMORPG = Massive Multi-player Online Role Playing Game
Everquest is the most popular example of this. (Think of a game like D&D on the Internet)
I tend to agree that a Pokemon MMORPG would be frickin' great! I would buy it if I didn't have to start with a token Fire, Grass, Water type (though Cyndaquil was my favorite starter of the three games...well can't say that until I try Treeko out I guess).
Charninja
06-23-2004, 12:39 PM
Well I'm still waiting for a beaver Pokémon XD
You sick little man! XD
Personally, I want somethin with a hammer, so it can smash pikachu.
Undrave
06-23-2004, 03:24 PM
I mean the real animal, animal symbol of Canada...
Beside look who's talkin' Charninja XD
I was thinking... I think those who want to catch Legendary Pokémons should have to really focus on the task to an almost obsessive level, like the guy who wanted to catch Suicune ya know? You'D need to find clues, research ruins and legend and deduct the behavior of the legendary and find out WHEN they appear... that'd be cool! Not only it would make for a nice quest but it would limit the number of Legendaries going around. And they would be forbidden for official tournament.
Neouser
06-23-2004, 03:53 PM
My opinion on Legendaries:
I think that you shouldn't be able to catch legendaries. But you can see legendaries. Their appearance is totally random (and really rare). All you get is the knoledge that you saw it, and maybe a photo.
Undrave
06-23-2004, 04:03 PM
You could always sell the picture for money then...
Pokeballistic
06-23-2004, 09:31 PM
I think that you shouldn't be able to catch legendaries. But you can see legendaries. Their appearance is totally random (and really rare). All you get is the knoledge that you saw it, and maybe a photo.
No, I think your wrong. The thing to with legendries is to make them hard to catch as i said long ago. They should also be toned down a little. Meaning they should not be invincible. Look at it this way.. You catch a Suicune and start to beat the heck out of everybody. Then one trainer challenges you and he has a very high levelled Raichu and it manages to beat the crap out of Suicune. How? Well, as we all know water types are weak against electric types plus the Raichu's level was higher. So, legendries are best of their type but does that make them invincible. No.
Dr. Blaine
06-24-2004, 03:54 PM
I think that you should be able to catch legendarys, but their should be consiquences, such as what happened in Pokemon 2(000) where the enviornment got messed up upon the capture of moltres and zapdos
Pokeballistic
06-24-2004, 06:18 PM
Guys, I just checked the petition. It only has 9 signatures!!. How come? Could it be that this MMORPG will remain a pipe dream and not many people are interested.
Seeker
06-24-2004, 09:40 PM
There's a petittion? sorry must have missed that post I haven't been checking in regularly lately.
wobmaster
06-30-2004, 08:06 AM
I signed it and now there are 10
a pokemon MMORPG would be really great, and all the suggestons are awesome. I'd add my own, but theyve all been stated
Marik
07-15-2004, 05:23 PM
New Suggestion! Yay!
- Training Methods: Basically, you can choose to train each of your pokemon in different manors (both in battles and just normal training). You could train in a kind manor yet train hard and be good to your Pokemon, the result being your Pokemon levels up a little slower but with the next level thier stats will be GREATLY higher (think Pikachu). Another way to train your Pokemon would be to mistreat them, act badly to them, overwork them, make them train and fight until thier long past exhausted. This would produce "Team Rocket" like Pokemont that grow in level fast and evolve quickly, but the end effect will be that thier weaker stat wise and are more likely to switch Personalities.
Charninja
07-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Good idea, but from past experience (Black and White), Making such a program that would accurately mirror your efforts would be rather difficult. Maybe if there was a "smack" button and "pet" button, or something along those lines. The frequency of smacking and petting, as well as their ratio to each other, might be able to help determine that sort of stuff, and if some sort of voice recognition technology were to be implamented, it would certainly make things a lot easier. The problem with that is that the program would probably have to accept quite a few words not typically considered appropriate...
Marik
07-16-2004, 12:05 PM
Good idea, but from past experience (Black and White), Making such a program that would accurately mirror your efforts would be rather difficult. Maybe if there was a "smack" button and "pet" button, or something along those lines. The frequency of smacking and petting, as well as their ratio to each other, might be able to help determine that sort of stuff, and if some sort of voice recognition technology were to be implamented, it would certainly make things a lot easier. The problem with that is that the program would probably have to accept quite a few words not typically considered appropriate...
Well I wasnt going for a Black & White approach to the whole thing. As with my idea for "Character to Character" interactions, there would also be "Character to Pokemon" interactions and vice versa. You would be able to do things like this...
Special Commands: Basically, there would be just various battle commands you can use in Battle, some let you yell them before attacks. For instance...
- Come on! You can do it! (Good command that shows you support your Pokemon)
- Get up you weakling! (Bad commant, strives your Pokemon to have a more violent and agressive nature)
And so on and so forth. Also, when you call your Pokemon back into its ball, something as simple as not praising the pokemon, telling it bad things, or not telling it anything at all will have an impact on how its grows. When training it against non-Pokemon things, you can push it hard and overwork it and do other bad things to effect your Pokemon's stat growth, and of coarse this would branch into the games Training System with everything else.
Its quite plyable, ya just need to have an open mind about it and know how to go about it.
Dr. Blaine
07-16-2004, 12:21 PM
Voice recognicion would be a Must-have.
I'm thinking the best way to do it would be where you order your pokemon to do their moves, and the battles would be more show based than game based, where it's not in turns. you have to think fast (I think I said this already)
btw, where is the petition form? I want to sign it.
wobmaster
07-17-2004, 04:36 PM
www.gopetition.comits under "games"
they need to have battling where you control the pokemon like, you can dodge and assign attacks to keys, and you dont just choose attacks. I' ve always wanted to have a hand eye coordinatoin pokemon game
Buster Blader 126
07-19-2004, 09:59 AM
This is a great idea! I'd love to play a Pokemon MMORPG!
So far, there's 12 signatures on the petition, inculding mine. :D
& to the thread starter: perhaps u could put the banners & petition links on your 1st post, so that people can see them immediately.
Leelue
07-20-2004, 12:43 PM
13 sig. me. i only read the first 2 pages and this one, so if i repeat an idea, sorry.
OMG! this is a better idea than the wheel. still drooling. OMG! this is AMAZING!
someone said it shoul be big. i think thats good, but it has to be BBBBBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIIiIIGGGGGGGGGGG! like it really would take you 3 hours of play to get rom city to city. but not in the start. like when you first get a poke, its 5 mins to the first town. but from the 20th gym to the elite 4, it should take like 5 HOURS of play. thats good. cities should be immence.
there should be an allowance to make a gym. but it has to be really hard. or you can challenge leaders for thier gym, using that type and level of pokemon. drool. if the challenger loses, he loses a LOT of cash, and cant challenge for a while. badgedesign is a nice idea too. you shouldd be able to "latch' onto someone, like when u sign in, and specific person is playing, POOF, your there. cool for making posses and junk. personal teleporters, to teleport u to some person in a place u have been before would be cool.
when u lose a battle, in a safe place, i.e. not team aquas base, you should hae the option of having like 15 minites to walk arounf without any pokemon, at that time, you should white out.
most pokemon should be able to be spotted, without walking around for 20 minites, always being interrupted by useless pokemon.
some mean pokemon should be able to attack YOU. you could have a health meter, allowing you to jump off high cliffs, and take like 85% health.
pokemon that can walk around out of thier balls. only problem is, wild pokemon could attack your pokemon without you looking,
wait,OMG!, you should be able to get like a group of 10 people and find a vacant area, and actually FRIKIN BUILD A TOWN! a small one though, like a gym, a center, a mart, (with stuff u buy), a contest building (maybe), a park (regular or pokemon park) and a few houses. (water and electricity provided) pool your cash and there u go. and maybe create training courses.
there should be like 20 gyms in a country, 25 cities per country (not counting created ones), and u only have to get like 17 required gyms (one for each type, 18 if they make the LIGHT type), and 1 chosen gym. thats cool too.
OMGOMGOMG! there should be other stats, like strength, running speed, reflexes, courage, accuracy (as a real stat, not only limited to attack), smarts, social abilities, stubborness, stamina, agility and others!
there should be 4-7 countries, each with htere own attle/contest league and stuff.
100 tms and 5 hms (strength, surf, cut, waterfall, and dive). flash, fly and rock smash should be common tms.
there should be pokemon contests like racing other pokes. each attack could do something to other racers.
you should be able to only breed some pokes within evo lines, including nido M and nido F. mr mime and jynx would mix, miltank and tauros (all male tauros). and some pokemon could cross breed, like an arcanine and ninetails could produce a growlithe with 1 extra tail and a vengeful steak. like there could be 4 breed classes, evo line only, slight mutation, major mutation, and cross breeding. evo only is rare (5%), like nidoking/queen. minor mutation is like the growpix i said earlier (20%), and major mutation is like a medicham and hariyama turning a psychic/fight breed, thats slightly heavy, wears short hair, and stuff like that (5%). cross breeding is like regular breeding between pokes not from the same line (70%). these breeding techniqus could create like 650 different pokemon. only fully evoled pokemon can mate (no teen hanky panky). a ninecanine (adult growpix)+ arcanine would result in a 25 percent chance of producing a growpix, and a 75 percent chance of getting a growlithe.
legends should be HARD to get and not for use in official battles.
the idea of buying clothes is one of the best ideas here.
pokemon cards and pokemon card tournaments. you should go to someone to get pokemon cards for each one of your pokemon that you have in your party, once a day, and each individual pokemon should only be allowed one card for itself. and it would e amazing to carry a Game boy SP, and have your own files on it.
SO many ideas.
this forum is too much, this IS total PWNAGE! this forum has too many possibilities.
they dont have a hippo pokemon, ostrich pokemon, or an ant pokemon.
Undrave
07-20-2004, 04:49 PM
Yeah it'd be so totally completly (and a bunch of other LY) AWESOME!
Marik
07-20-2004, 07:13 PM
Yeah, the rediculous amount of depth they could put into the game, even with only the 3 regions and the Orange Islands, would keep players playing it for YEARS! I just think Nintendo needs to open its eyes, take a look at how much MMORPG's rake in a month, and realise that just slapping the name Pokemon on it could make it sell about ten times better, not to mention any system they put it on would litterally be sent flying up the popularity chain in the Console Wars (as I doubt Nintendo would ever put something on Computer). Lets take a look at the depth that could be added, shall we?
- Pokemon Collecting
- Pokemon Observation
- Pokemon Photography
- Pokemon Ecosystems
- Non-Wild Pokemon/Trainer Battle Training
- Buying/Collective Clothing (its addictive!)
- Pokemon Leagues in each Region and Regular Tournaments in Certain Places on a Weekly Basis
- Different Character Types (Trainer, Breeder, Coordinater, Scientist, Photographer, etc)
- Character appearance depth
- Sidequests/Journies
- Pokemon Breeding
- Raising Pokemon to thier Best
- Interacting with not only Pokemon, but other Players
- Creating Teams/Gangs/Clans/etc
- Collecting Collectors Items (like in the later Pokemon games, only on a much greater degree)
And the list goes on and on and on, thiers enough in the game that players will litterally need to create new accounts/alternate characters in order to do most of it, and odds are they STILL wont be able to do it all. It'd be more addictive then any other video game out there and would have the most play and reply value ever seen in a video game! Nintendo would be insane not to see the potential in linking hundreds of thousands of Pokemon players and fans together. You want connectivity Nintendo? THERE it is!
Leelue
07-20-2004, 10:41 PM
pokemon ecosystm? is that like the ecogym card, but you put pokemon in there and its like a day care service?
Undrave
07-21-2004, 07:32 AM
No... an ecosystem, it's how you call the relationship betweem various species in an environement, like food chain, symbiosis and stuff like that.
Anyway... the potential is so there! It's CRAZY! It would take some years to program but I think it would be worth it. Thei dea of Pokémon TCG IN the game is great, you could even do a whole game just going around and participating in card tournaments and searching for elusive boosters and rare singles! You could win rare cards in tournament too along with money. The characters who have card could have something to diferientate them.
Also It's been mention but to add to your list:
-Pokémon Race
-Insect capture Contest
-Safari Zone
-Pokéblock Vendor
-Berry Grower
-Pokémon Fishing Contest
-Pokémon Sport
-Pokémon Sumo
-Evil Pokémon Poacher
-Police Officer
-Ruin Explorer
The depth of the Pokémon universe is so CRAZY oO!
Marik
07-22-2004, 10:55 PM
-Pokémon Race
-Insect capture Contest
-Safari Zone
-Pokéblock Vendor
-Berry Grower
-Pokémon Fishing Contest
-Pokémon Sport
-Pokémon Sumo
-Evil Pokémon Poacher
-Police Officer
-Ruin Explorer
The depth of the Pokémon universe is so CRAZY oO!
All very good ideas that I completely forgot about, so thank you for bringing them up. Nintendo would be INSANE to not make a game like this. Make a Harddrive and HighSpeed adapter for "Revolution" and package it with the game. Thats like, $100 for the game/adapter/2 Free Months (no Credit Card required), then after the 2 free months an additional $14 a month (with discounts or whatever if you buy multiple months ahead of time).
It just boggles the mind when you multiplie the numbers to see how much Nintendo would be generating from the game ALONE! That would be another thing Nintendo would have to set thier ways into, alternate payment methods to Credit Cards, like buying "Pay-Cards" at gaming stores ranging from 1 month to 3 months to 6 months to the ever-so expensive 1 year card. Either way, Nintendo would generate a disturbing amount of money with this game.
Pokeballistic
07-23-2004, 12:59 AM
does anyone know of a good pokemon fansite which may have more than 1000 members? If we just told them we would have 1000 signatures in 1 second :) I think most of us should try to go to various fansites and convince people to sign it. If you want this game SPREAD THE WORD!!
Leelue
07-23-2004, 02:29 PM
has anyone here NOT signed the petition. if so, its on one of the first pages.
NO! no pay! at least for us... we have the ideas and the petition, so if nintendo makes this game, all of us should play UNLIMITED and for FREE!
heres a list of basic components the game could have from what i read about on this page, and stuff im pulling from thin air, since i am quick replying to the last post.
*pokemon breeding in depth w/possible mini mutations I.E. growpix
*pokemon competiotions- fishing, racing, wrestling (hitmonchan vs golduck), sports. can you imagine a team of pokes playing baseball or basketball?
*pokemon ecosystem, cool idea to add to the pokenav
*clothing
*pokemon TCG
*persona stats (agility, smartness, courage, fatigue, stamina)
*Huge amount of badges
*light type? hm?
*health meter
*pokemon center real time
*gigantic countries (60 hours to do everything possible in one out of 4 countries, 250 hours to do everything possible)
*pokemon photos
*a pokemon gold/sapphire/yellow etc in the game, to add to even more fun. another game, pokemon black, would be fun to play too.
*time to walk around without pokemon.
*badge design
*gym creation/challenging
*gang creation
*all legendary pokemon included
*being a gym leader/elite four person
*you should have pokemon that use the MOVE fly, and pokemon that can fly you around for like 5 minites or so, until they get tired
*pokemon out of their balls
*time zones
the problem is evil orgs. with 30,000 people playing, wouldn't it be hard for thier to be an evil organization, unless, of course, there are places that are character specific, like home or the base of team rocket, that differ depending on who is in there. like at your house, here could be maybe 5 houses per country, thus 5 gym levels per country (like the ghost gym for some might be gym 15, and for others, gym 4) and when you go to the one you started in, you should be able to pick wheather you go to your house or visit a friend who "gave you his key", in other words, gives you access to his home.
hey, the idea for a different battle system is cool, but for 2 on 2 matches, its impossible. i was thinking more along the lines of war of the monsters. a big 3d area, w obsticles. you play turns, but differently. like, the first pokemon has like 10 seconds to make a move, before the opponents turn starts. when your opponents begins without an attack made by you, your attak can still be made. your opponents turn begins when your atack is made, your opponent is free to attack. moves like furry swips would be combo oriented. moves like swift would aim automatically, and hydro pump would be auto aim.
more ideas, no time to elaborate right now.
whoo, my fingers are sweaty.
ill look for a pokemon fansite now.
Marik
07-23-2004, 03:54 PM
has anyone here NOT signed the petition. if so, its on one of the first pages.
NO! no pay! at least for us... we have the ideas and the petition, so if nintendo makes this game, all of us should play UNLIMITED and for FREE!
heres a list of basic components the game could have from what i read about on this page, and stuff im pulling from thin air, since i am quick replying to the last post.
*pokemon breeding in depth w/possible mini mutations I.E. growpix
*pokemon competiotions- fishing, racing, wrestling (hitmonchan vs golduck), sports. can you imagine a team of pokes playing baseball or basketball?
*pokemon ecosystem, cool idea to add to the pokenav
*clothing
*pokemon TCG
*persona stats (agility, smartness, courage, fatigue, stamina)
*Huge amount of badges
*light type? hm?
*health meter
*pokemon center real time
*gigantic countries (60 hours to do everything possible in one out of 4 countries, 250 hours to do everything possible)
*pokemon photos
*a pokemon gold/sapphire/yellow etc in the game, to add to even more fun. another game, pokemon black, would be fun to play too.
*time to walk around without pokemon.
*badge design
*gym creation/challenging
*gang creation
*all legendary pokemon included
*being a gym leader/elite four person
*you should have pokemon that use the MOVE fly, and pokemon that can fly you around for like 5 minites or so, until they get tired
*pokemon out of their balls
*time zones
I agree that Legendary Pokemon should be included, but I DONT agree that they should be catchable, let alone beatable. It'd kind of destroy the shows imagine if every single trainer in the game could catch them and would make them less of an awe-inspiring sight to see.
the problem is evil orgs. with 30,000 people playing, wouldn't it be hard for thier to be an evil organization, unless, of course, there are places that are character specific, like home or the base of team rocket, that differ depending on who is in there. like at your house, here could be maybe 5 houses per country, thus 5 gym levels per country (like the ghost gym for some might be gym 15, and for others, gym 4) and when you go to the one you started in, you should be able to pick wheather you go to your house or visit a friend who "gave you his key", in other words, gives you access to his home.
Well there would be people hired to play the more important rules in the organizations, as with just about any other MMORPG. In other words, people from the company would be paid not only to moderate the game, but also to play as different characters (so yes, you could see Giovanni, Jessie, James, Meowth, Ash, Misty, Brock, May, etc).
hey, the idea for a different battle system is cool, but for 2 on 2 matches, its impossible. i was thinking more along the lines of war of the monsters. a big 3d area, w obsticles. you play turns, but differently. like, the first pokemon has like 10 seconds to make a move, before the opponents turn starts. when your opponents begins without an attack made by you, your attak can still be made. your opponents turn begins when your atack is made, your opponent is free to attack. moves like furry swips would be combo oriented. moves like swift would aim automatically, and hydro pump would be auto aim.
more ideas, no time to elaborate right now.
whoo, my fingers are sweaty.
ill look for a pokemon fansite now.
I say leave the battle system as a Turn Based one and just throw in the following battle types:
- 3-on-3
- 3-on-2 (Unfair Play)
- 3-on-1 (Unfair Play)
- 2-on-1 (Unfair Play)
That and, to make the MMORPG more in tune with the show, let Pokemon have a total of 6 moves instead of 4 (since we all know Pikachu in the show has Thundershock, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Iron Tail, Quick Attack, and Agility).
Another thing I want to see is THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE STARTER POKEMON FROM THE GAMES! Like, I want people to be able to choose from a HUGE list of Pokemon to start off with (depending on the area and region they want to start in), but I wanna see Bulbasaurs, Charmanders, Squirtles, etc all catchable. Sure make them alot more rare then normal so its harder to come across them, just making them like that would be a blessing (as I hate having to Trade to get certain Pokemon).
Also...
REMOVE TRADE EVOLUTIONS! I hate Trade Evolutions with a passion and I think they should be removed, since they dont evolve that way in the show anyways. Sure they could give them some other funky way to evolve, just NOT THROUGH TRADING! Trading should be for people who are having trouble catching Pokemon and for Breeders who are constantly breeding Pokemon to thier max potential.
Leelue
07-25-2004, 10:57 AM
everything in our reply is good. but i havent seen pikachu use agility and thundershock in a while. i know he has-thunder, thundershock, iron tail, quick attack- but thats all i know.
Yes trade evos suck.
i still like the idea of controlling your pokemon in a one on one format, so you can get real close to your opponent and use explosion, or dodge thier tackle with a well placed jump. of course, the old mechanism is tried and true, o keeping it would not be bad.
3-1 is unfair to the extreme, unless you have 3 lv 15 pokes vs one lv 27.
also 2 on 2 should not be limited to twins and other people like that, but unlike colloseum(?spell?) not all trainers should 2 on 2 with you.
Marik
07-25-2004, 01:39 PM
everything in our reply is good. but i havent seen pikachu use agility and thundershock in a while. i know he has-thunder, thundershock, iron tail, quick attack- but thats all i know.
Pikachu's used it, plus I've seen him use Thundershock as well. Alot of the Pokemon in that series seem to have more then 4 moves, so I think 6 would make it more akin to the show and also provide for more heated battles.
Yes trade evos suck.
Oh yeah, completely useless and all it does is anger and frustrate people.
i still like the idea of controlling your pokemon in a one on one format, so you can get real close to your opponent and use explosion, or dodge thier tackle with a well placed jump. of course, the old mechanism is tried and true, o keeping it would not be bad.
3-1 is unfair to the extreme, unless you have 3 lv 15 pokes vs one lv 27.
1) Pokemon should NOT be able to be controlled. Your taking it away from RPG and taking it to an Action RPG. It'll take away not only the feel of the series but also the feel of the shows as well. The shows systems of battle are only moderately different from the games (imagine the FFVII system of battle for the shows almost, only alot different at the same time).
2) 3-on-1 is either SUPPOSED to be one of two things: A challange a Trainer issues cause he wants to test out his Pokemon, or just that, Unfair Play. You think Teams like Rocket, Magma, and Aqua are gonna want to play fair?
also 2 on 2 should not be limited to twins and other people like that, but unlike colloseum(?spell?) not all trainers should 2 on 2 with you.
It should be a pick and choose thing. You can invite people nearby to go 2-on-2 with you or you could just use 2 of yours. Would also make for more unique gyms that require to to either field 2 or to find a partner.
Leelue
07-25-2004, 09:28 PM
ok, but do u think they should come up with a pokemon game that is like a "war of the monsters" type setup? that would be cool.
DrkCloud
07-26-2004, 07:24 AM
Well since that may never happen and even if it could it'd be in a few years, why doesn't someone from Pojo make an Online RPG on the Forums? I've seen them done, Works Great too. I'm not too into pokemon anymore but I think it have alot of potential. There would be a Rolling System or something. You wouldn't even have to be Pokemon it could be Yugioh or something
Undrave
07-26-2004, 08:35 AM
Well since that may never happen and even if it could it'd be in a few years, why doesn't someone from Pojo make an Online RPG on the Forums? I've seen them done, Works Great too. I'm not too into pokemon anymore but I think it have alot of potential. There would be a Rolling System or something. You wouldn't even have to be Pokemon it could be Yugioh or something
No... just NO... Text RPG that uses stats SUCK... it's best to make it into a sort of collaborative fic and even there you need people you can trust... so no.
In any case, 2 VS 1 isn't as bad as 3 VS 1, I mean Ash often have to take on both Jessie and James with 1 Pokémon. Also Pokémon should be able to evolve in the middle of a battle, just like in the show! That'd be cool. the idea of having to go through a Gym battle with a partner is cool too. That would add a nicel evel of communication... I think there should be LOTS of incencitive to find friends in this game... you shouldn't be able to go through everything alone, but wouldn't be too hindered when you are without your friend ya know. A lot of MMORPG don't have any real reason to find friends or ally, most of the time you just end up stealing a kill and making someone angry. Tehre should also be very realistic weather with a weather system and a weather forecast on TV and radio! Maybe give names to the Routes instead of numbers... I always have trouble remember where is wich route.
And the return of the Pokégear! So you can phone your friends even if they aren't in the same part of the world as you.
Leelue
07-26-2004, 04:30 PM
AHA! NAVAGEAR! YES! the merge of pokenav and pokegear.
also, weather on the news would be good, or in your NAVAGEAR(produce echo here), you could have a 3 day forcast, the time, relevant news (needed for the massive world we will have) the map(with sattalite footage), the pokedex, the phone, the radio (with worldwide stations, countrywide stations, reginal stations), and badges. also, when you change routes, you should NOT lose your radio tune, like in gold/silver. routes should be given names, but with numbers, like "leeblue 126".
still no fansite. too bad polls are impossible on pojos board, i would make one here.
ooh, maybe a biweekly pokemon magazene, telling us how contests went, puzzles, pokeprofiles (like one day its sneasel, it tells us its types, its behavoir patterns, and stuff) and other things you cant find in the NAVAGEAR.
should a game ("pokemon black/white", "pokemon stadium: the elite") be included with like a pokeboy device too, that you could buy in different colors and stuff?
clown master
07-26-2004, 06:24 PM
OR, they could do as they do in the show, and have more than one of each legendary(ie. in the johto saga, more than one lugia)
Undrave
07-26-2004, 06:34 PM
Not all legendaries in the sow existed as multiples... I mean te three dogs were created by Ho-oh (who I understand is unique) and where unique themself.
And Groudon and Kyogre were unique, and probably so is Rayquaza.
Leelue
07-27-2004, 07:32 PM
i like the idea if legends being rare to see, and 1 in a 100 to battle. if you catch it, you have to agree to use it with your opponent, and against most computer/sanctioned battles, they wont be allowed.
i like the idea if legends being rare to see, and 1 in a 100 to battle. if you catch it, you have to agree to use it with your opponent, and against most computer/sanctioned battles, they wont be allowed.
Once again Im gonna have to say that giving the ability for ANYBODY to capture a Legendary Pokemon, no matter the consequences, is rather unfair and breaks the spirit of the anime. They should be able to be battled (on a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY Rare chance, but should be MUCH too powerful to capture, even with a MasterBall (PokeBalls would pretty much just shatter with the force of attempting to capture thier energies).
One of a kind Pokemon should be left not only one of a kind, but also left unavailable for capture.
(BTW, this is Marik, just a new account along with the new nickname)
Mushroom Pie
07-29-2004, 01:30 PM
Okay, here are my ideas:
When the game first opens, there would be four regions or countries or whatever: Kanto, Johto, Orange Islands, and Hoenn. Each country would have fifty cities, and possibly more as expansion paks are created. Each city would have about ten starters, most of which would be weak Pokemon that can be caught in the area. You can choose to start from any country and city you like. Each country would have 20 gyms, a number that could also grow as new expansion paks are released. The Elite Four and all Gym Leaders would be NPCs. You could challenge a gym leader for a gym badge, or you could become an "underling" of the leader. Each leader could have up to ten underlings, and must except a request to become an underling as long as they have room for more. As an underling, it's your job to weaken any challenger that comes into the gym before they face the gym leader. If you successfully defeat a set number of trainers, you may face your boss, the gym leader. If you succesfully defeat him by the rules of his gym, then you become the new leader. An NPC leader will fade into nothing, and a PC leader will be demoted to a normal trainer, though they will be recognized for once running a gym. A gym leader can at any time quit and choose a successor to run their gym as well. But, gym leading is expensive. While you will inherit the gym from the previous leader, you will also inherit its debts. You have to pay for badges, maintenance workers on traps and such, water bills, electric bills, etc. If you fall too far into debt, the gym will show it. It will slowly fall further and further into disrepair, and eventually will become unsafe to be in. At this point, the gym is abandoned and all the people working there will be demoted to normal trainers, but the leaders will be recognized for having once owned a gym. With enough money, though, some one could rebuild the gym to their liking and become a leader. As for level restrictions, the leader himself has none, but cronies can only use Pok'emon who's level are %70 of their leader's strongest Pok'emon's level. Newbies might have trouble with this further down the road, but then they will be encouraged to fight at NPC controlled gyms and battle amongst themselves to get strong enough for the tougher gyms. Once per month in real time, there would be a Pok'emon league tournemant in each country. any one with 8 badges from that country can enter. The winner of the tournement goes on to face the Elite Four of their country, who would have a mini tournement somewhere to decide the order in which they would battle the league champ. Then, later on, about only three times a year, there would be a tournement between every trainer who succesfully defeated the Elite Four. If a League champ failed to beat the Elite Four, then the head of that Elite Four would take there place. If this happened twice, then the top 2 of that Elite Four would take their place, etc. The winner of that tournement would be dubbed the greatest trainer in the world.They would then assume a role similar to that of Red in Silver and Gold. He would be open to challenges at any time, and must constantly defend his title. However, good luck finding him. This is how you become a member of your Elite Four: You have to currently be running a gym in the country of which you want to become a member of the Elite Four (did that make sense?). You must also have twenty badges from that country. You have to win the Pok'emon League tournament, and you have to defeat the Elite Four. After that, the weakest member of the Elite Four (based on win:loss ratios) is kicked out, and you become the weakest member. The member that was kicked out becomes the leader of the gym you previously owned. Now, about secret bases: There are thousands everywhere. If one becomes claimed, let's say one that was under a rock, that rock becomes nothing more than a normal rock to every one except the owner of the base. He and his party are the only ones that can go in and out of it. When you find an unoccupied secret base, you can choose to claim it. If you do, then it becomes just like the ones in Ruby and Sapphire. However, with money, you can do some neat things with them. Some of them, for instance, could be changed into houses with enough cash. Others could become unofficial gyms, where people could test their skill against you. If you succesfully defeat 100 challengers, then the gym becomes a real one. As for Pokegear, I'm thinking that the cell phone should work sort of like Linkshells in FFXI, only you could talk privately. The radio stations could be a mix of Pokemon talk shows and actual music. trainers could also have classes like Cooltrainer. I like that idea. Maybe when a Bug Catcher buys a Poke Ball, it gets upgraded to a ball that catches Bug pokemon easier or something. The type of trainer that'd be the most fun would be Psychic. As you hone your psychic abilities, you can start issuing "penalties" to your opponent for losing (think Penalty Games from Yu-Gi-Oh!, only not quite so deadly). For instance, one penalty you could issue is to shrink your opponent to the size of an ant for a full day real time. In his shrunken form, he couldn't buy things or get help from a pokemon center, and unless his pokemon are extremely happy with him and he's got a lot of badges, they won't obey him. Not to mention how long it would take to get from town to town, especially with hungry Sparrow on the lookout for food. That's right, you can get EATEN. Now, you can either try and get the pokemon to throw you back up, or wait and come out the hard way. If that happens, you'll walk around with brown splotches and a green cloud around you until you bathe. You can also get eaten by bigger stuff when in your normal form, but yeah. That shrinking thing would be one of the most powerful penalties a Psychic could issue. Ok, all of the above is just for your honest Joe Pokemon trainers. But, you could also become part of an evil organization, an officer of the law, a breeder, a coordinater, or a coorperate giant! Breeders are the only people that can breed your pokemon. Some of them may run Day Care centers, others may just travel around. Of course, they could probably get a good fee from you to breed your pokemon. I like the system that other guy came up with for breeding, so I'm not gonna go into it. Now, for evil orginizations. You have a couple options here. You could start your own, join Team Magma, Team Aqua, or try to round up a bit of Team Rocket, since they disbanded in G/S. Being a member of Magma or Aqua is the easiest, though still highly difficult, way of getting your paws on a Groudon or Kyogre (that's right, you can get legendaries. I 'll explain that later). However, you have to claw your way up to the top of the team to be the owner of the pokemon. As for Team Rocket, you can sometimes NPC ex-Rocket members that might give you some tips on where some of their old bases are and stuff. If you can find the bases and rebuild them, then you're in buisness! But, obviously more than one person would become interested in rebuilding the Rocket empire. Can we say Pokemon crime wars? People who own different chunks of Team Rocket could either partner up, or battle each other. Who knows, maybe Team Rocket will fall under the rule of one person once more some day. Finally, setting up your own organization. Some secret bases could be renovated into a bad guy base, and its secret entrance will throw off the cops! You can name your team, give them a logo, anything you want. Just don't mess with the big time guys until you've mastered the ropes. As criminals, you can do lots of stuff, and by lots, I mean anything that won't bump the game up to an M rating. These people could conquer the world! but that's where officers step in! At first, they'll all be NPCs that are Jenny, but as more people become cops, the Jennys will fade away until there's only a few. Cops, however, are limited to only two pokemon and a pistol (maybe only for intimidation purposes?), and the pokemon that they can use are limited to police certified ones, like Growlith and Arcanine. The more criminals you stop, the more hideouts you discover, all increase your rank. You can jump from stopping litterers to going after the leader of Team Magma. Coordinators, let's talk about them. Coordinators can't catch pokemon. They either have to pay to have two pokemon bred and keep the baby, or be given one by winning an event or a friend giving them one. They can't battle with their pokemon, but they can train them to level them up and evolve them. Coordinators are the kind of people that participate in pokemon sports and contests and whatnot. Other people can too, but coordinators are made to do it. That's about all I feel like saying on that subject, so moving on. I said you could become coorperate giants, and you can, but unless you're in it just to make money, you'll probably want to couple it with something else. You can either buy an office building in a city, or fashion one out of a secret base. Basically, it's one big R&D department that can make items for sale or use! This is the only way to get artificial pokemon like Porygon and that weather thing from R/S. This is also one of the only ways you can capture ancient pokemon, but while it's easier, it's much more expensive than the way I'll touch on later. You can also use your R&D team to find stuff out about legendaries, but you'd be better off to find it yourself. Let's talk about legendaries. As some one said before, you must be obsessive to get your grimy claws on a legendary. There are certain occasions when they are vulnerable, such as mating season. But, where do they mate? When? That's for you to find out. However, each person may only capture one of each legendary, and some can't be caught, but can be seen. Neither Mew or Celebi can be caught, and maybe a few others. However, Celebi is vital to complete your collection.You have to get it to use its time traveling powers to help you catch Unkown and ancient Pokemon. But why collect Unkown? Because they're cool! If you capture an entire alphabet set of Unkown, you'll get something. Maybe a Master Ball, maybe one of the orbs that awaken Kyogre or Groudon (which will be the biggest pains in the asses to get, btw), I dunno. But it would be something worth your trouble for capturing them all. Afterwards, the 26 Unkown disperse. Legendary pokemon would be legal for tournaments, but they wouldn't just dominate anything that went against them. They would be incredibly good, yes, but by no means unbeatable. Mewtwo's an especially tricky one to get, and is most easily gotten by being a member of the Elite Four or high on the food chain of an evil organization. First, you'd have to find a Mew and somehow get ahold of some of its DNA. Then, you'll have to shell out some serious dough to fund a cloning machine, and then you'll have to battle and control your new Mewtwo. It will take a long time to make Mewtwo obey and like you afterwards.
Okay, I think I've bored you enough. See you later!
EDIT: Geez! This should count as two posts or something! o_o
Leelue
08-01-2004, 06:02 PM
owwwwwwwww....... my corneas!
i like all but a few of your ideas.
1-shrinking=no-no
2-legends not for tourneys.
3-coordinators should be able to catch pokes and battle, but onot be a gym leader or something. cooridinators should become judges or something.
4- "IF" (big if) legends were catchable, they have to be 1 in a thousand (literally) and they could respawn (?) yearly. lugia and ho-oh should be able to mate. however, the one in a 10,000,000 pokemon (literally) would be rayquaza. it would be UBUR powerful and kill everything. its intellagence bio stat would be maxed out, so it knows exactly how to fight. it would run away if it got too weak, and heal itself. the chance of catching it should be one in 150. however, seeing a pokemon would be so rare, its just not cool, but it would be fair.
Mushroom Pie
08-02-2004, 08:17 PM
Yeah I got a little too creative with the shrinking stuff. But yeah, that's how I had in mind for Legendaries. I still think legendaries should be tourney leagal, just dumbed down, but w/e.
Undrave
08-03-2004, 07:28 AM
Yeah I got a little too creative with the shrinking stuff. But yeah, that's how I had in mind for Legendaries. I still think legendaries should be tourney leagal, just dumbed down, but w/e.
I think it should depend on wich legendary, for exemple Lugia is moreo f a 'RARE' Pokémon than a legendary, same for Articuno and Zapdos, but Moltres, Ho-oh, the dogs, Latios, Latias, etc are more like unique Pokémon.
Rare Pokémon should be catchable, hard but still catachable, and tourney legal. They should be hard to find in the first place. But legends shouldn't be catchable! Neither should Mewtwo... altough maybe you could BEFRIEND Mewtwo or other legendaries, don't know what effect it would have on gameplay but could be cool.
wobmaster
08-03-2004, 08:07 AM
i think you should not be able to fairl ycatch the ledgendaries.there wuld be a 1 in 100000 chance of seeing them, and then you could get a snapshot of them.
unless you were a big bad guy with a "super duper ledgendairy catcher 5000" or something...
Leelue
08-03-2004, 02:03 PM
Super amazing legend catcher 5000 (salc5) now i made it a word like scuba.
befriend is good. it would take a lot of weeks to do though, and if you were in trouble in a battle, there could be a 1/20 chance hell come in and kill them for you.
Pokeballistic
08-04-2004, 03:47 AM
Okay so most of you want that legendries should be:
1.Uncatchable
2.Rare
3.Barely get a gilmpse of
4.If catchable then not being able to use them in battles
Here is the best idea:
DONT PUT LEGENDRIES IN THE GAME!! According to what you say, legendries are only good for bragging rights.
wobmaster
08-04-2004, 06:52 AM
no; ledgendairies should be in the game, just unable to be caught... you would be walking and the y would fly over head like in episode 1 with Ho-oh
Undrave
08-04-2004, 04:47 PM
I think seeing a Legendary would give you a boost or bonus or something! That'd be cool, and if you take a picture of it... KACHING$$$$ and you get bragging rights XD.
Leelue
08-05-2004, 12:13 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$coming out the you know where! especially if you get one of the legendary dogs. cause they should only be around for a second. or like you could go up on a cliff, in the desert, looking over the horizon, and since you have been tracking raiku for a while, you know where it will be. and just then, a yellow streak, you whip out your navagear(echo please) with you photomaker400 installed, and *click* a perfect zoomed in pic of raiku. that would make my week. or maybe entai and suicune are figghting. suicune is losing, so you snd in your salamence to help put down entai. suicune likes you now. and sometimes when your alone, it'll come by for a minute, before shooting away to who knows where. thats a good way , imho.
Mushroom Pie
08-06-2004, 02:15 PM
Yeah, that sounds good. The only problem is, what's the point of having Team Magma and Aqua if neither Kyogre or Groudon can be captured? I do think Mewtwo should be capable of being captured, however. You would first have to get a lot of money, (and I mean a LOT), find Mew (good luck), befriend it, get DNA from it, and use your money to build a cloning machine, and clone Mewtwo. You'd have to befriend it before you could catch it, though. And maybe there could be some weird system with Kyogre and Groudon, where maybe the more you stop Team Aqua, the more powerful Kyogre makes your water Pok'emon, and the more you stop Magma, the more powerful Groudon makes your fire Pok'emon.
wobmaster
08-06-2004, 07:14 PM
unless you were a big bad guy with a "super duper ledgendairy catcher 5000" or something...
if you were on team A/M the funding could let you get that and you could "catch" them
Pokeballistic
09-06-2004, 10:55 PM
The thread is back. Comon give all the ideas you have and for heavens sake sign the petition
wearetitens
09-06-2004, 11:26 PM
Just my two cents.
> One f the BIG things I would LOVE to see is the ability for people to create
> their own gym, but only after winning regularly scheduled contests and
> tournaments.
Perhaps in order to qualify for running a gym your required to have 8 badges and pass a specific test like the elite as they are now where you pick your pokemon and then to win 5 battles with only what you carry?
> They would HAVE to follow strict guidelines as to what types of pokemon
> and what their levels could be. Gym leaders are supposedto be tough, but
> they need to lose inorder for their to be any fun.
Perhaps when applying for a gym you have to give a specific type of pokemon e.g. dark which is the only one your allowed to use or your license is taken away? As for the level maybe a grading scale for gyms where depending on where you are on the scale your only allowed to use pokemon up to level x e.g. a F class Ranking can only use Pokemon up to level 10 while an A class can use pokemon up to level 60 and each level has its own test to qualify for?
> A create a gym feature would be sweet as well, since we all know that the
> more challenging gym leaders also tend to have nice little puzzles that
> need to be solved. Somebody could check every once in a while to make
> sure it isn't insanely difficult and appropriate.
Expanding on my earlier comments perhaps a gym store where you buy gym traps and what's available depends on your license?
> Now in an expansion set, there should be the ability to create your own
> evil league, or at least make it an option. I would LOVE to be able to finally
> join team rocket after all of this time.
Interesting thought?
> I also think that the gym leaders, the elites, and the other major important
> people should all actually be real people. Heck, if we could get morimoto to
> play every once in a while, sheer pwnage would ensue.
I can see gym leaders working if its split between real and computer generated ones so that the first people buying it have someone to play against. The elites perhaps could be split into an upper league and traveller with the upper league being the same as the current elite 4 while the travellers are the top X amount of players based on points earned as a registered league competitor? I mean you register for the Indigo league in Kanto and then earn so many points a gym leader or elite and your position in a regularly scheduled tournament like the one Ash was in? I don't think major important people would really work though since they wouldn't alway's be around and if they got bored they might permanently leave.
Still I like the ideas of having all non-legendary/single pokemon catchable and all the regions visitable and a customizeable character.
thta would rock sadly it is very unlikely, i sighned your petition.
Drift
09-12-2004, 10:06 AM
I've toiled this idea myself, *sigh* I want to lead a change in pokemon, not with just an MMORPG but with a few other things. Since this topic is out, i'll go ahead and throw out some of my other ideas.
The choice to pick your area
Pending your area, you may get a random prefessor, or pending area A choice in a prefessor, but others can actually start off without a professor at all, catching wild pokemon, or stumbleing onto one.
Spexific tournaments and events
Citys from other games be fully open to everyone.
Yearly, or half yearly based * a schedule would be worked out* For Pokemon league national events * like Jhoto league*
Dark Malik
09-12-2004, 10:37 AM
The thread is back. Comon give all the ideas you have and for heavens sake sign the petition
What petition? *too lazy to read through the entire thread* You do realize online petitions never work right?
Charninja
09-12-2004, 12:22 PM
Pokemon should be able to die.
Characters should be able to die
Some pokemon, and non-player characters, should be evil. They should attack without provocation, and they should be able to use "fierce" attacks that not only scar you or your pokemon, but permanently reduce your health points. You may still gain HP through leveling up, but if a "fierce" attack is also a critical hit, or if a "fierce" attack hits too many times in too short a period, you or your pokemon wil die, and not be able to be revived by simply going to a Pokemon Center or using a Revive. When you die, that's it. Your character account is deleted, though what records or awards you may have won are still "there." They just aren't considered yours. You may only have one character at a time as well, and if you "die" and start a new character, you automatically lose all of your pokemon, badges, money, etc., and start off with a phobia of the pokemon that killed you, which means that when you battle a pokemon of the same species as your killer, you may not run, or give cmmands, whether or not it was the same pokemon. Your own pokemon may be granted a bit of intelligence so that they may battle on their own, but it would be a difficult fight indeed. The only way to cure your phobia would be to have your pokemon defeat several of those pokemon, and make you realize that they are not so powerful as you realized.
When a pokemon is killed, it is gone. Forever. You may still capture a pokemon of the same species, but that is all. Any items you may have given it are lost. Going in battle against a pokemon of the same species as the one that killed your pokemon will force you with only two options, depending on your personality profile as determined by your previous actions and the quiz you took at the beginning of the game. You may either only run, or only fight with full intensity (no "you can do it!" or "I believe n you" crap).
Too make it so that "dying" isn't a common occurance, only evil organizations may order their pokemon to use "feirce" attacks, and only pokemon known for violence or sheer power may *intentionally* use them in the wild, such as Sneasel, Beedrill, and legendaries. If there is an exceptionally high level difference between to contenders, probably 25 levels plus, there is also a random chance that a "feirce" attack will occur by accident.
wobmaster
09-12-2004, 12:52 PM
What petition? *too lazy to read through the entire thread* You do realize online petitions never work right?
http://www.gopetition.com/online/4506.html. for all you that are too lazy to go back
Dark Malik
09-12-2004, 12:56 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/online/4506.html. for all you that are too lazy to go back
Oh okay. Well that petition is pointless. Companies don't care about petitions online. Real-life petitions are much more effective
wobmaster
09-12-2004, 01:23 PM
Oh okay. Well that petition is pointless. Companies don't care about petitions online. Real-life petitions are much more effective
just sign it anyway...
Dark Malik
09-12-2004, 01:27 PM
just sign it anyway...
Okay. But even though I sign it, it's going to have the same effect it would've had if I had not signed it
wobmaster
09-12-2004, 02:17 PM
maybe a pokemon fan board will find this and they will post there and get 1000 more signs... never know, it might get noticed
Dark Malik
09-12-2004, 02:22 PM
maybe a pokemon fan board will find this and they will post there and get 1000 more signs... never know, it might get noticed
Well there's always hope that could happen
Dr. Blaine
09-13-2004, 08:43 PM
Pokemon should be able to die.
Characters should be able to die[/I]
i compleatly disagree with the idea of pokemon dying. It would go against the less-violent sence of pokemon. younger kids are (I think) a huge % of the current pokemon fans, and by killing pokemon and players, you would alienate those players. and would you really want to have your player die and loose all your stats and pokemon?
Charninja
09-13-2004, 10:07 PM
i compleatly disagree with the idea of pokemon dying. It would go against the less-violent sence of pokemon. younger kids are (I think) a huge % of the current pokemon fans, and by killing pokemon and players, you would alienate those players. and would you really want to have your player die and loose all your stats and pokemon?
It is GENERALLY agreed that kiddies uner 13 shouldn't be allowed to play MMORPG games anyway, due to all the psychos and pervs that are all too frequent (I used to play Diablo 2, and I know I certainly wouldn't want my kids playing with guys who have c hoadeater69 as their account name...). Just make it rated T and everything SHOULD be fine. I know it certainly WOULD be a big departure from the series and the show... but it would still be a cool one.
And as far how annoying it would be, it'd purpoosely be extremely rare. Like I said, only evil organizations would even have acess to that power, and we could always make the chances of it happening exceptionally rare. Make it so that only a few specific moves, like the OHKOs and maybe one or two other moves even HAVE the chance of doing a fierce attack. And we could also make it so that as accurracy increases, the chance of doing a fierce attack decreases. Make it so that a pokemon can only have one OHKO (or any "fierce" attack for that matter), and it just might work.
akiragale_532
09-15-2004, 09:29 PM
I want a Pokemon MMORPG it would be fun
Pokeballistic
09-16-2004, 04:05 AM
What are you waiting for akiragale_532 go sign the petition and tell your friends about it too.
Hey, here's an idea: The Digimon world accessible through the Pokemon Center Computers. If that happens Poke and Digi fans will come together
Charninja
09-16-2004, 07:43 AM
What are you waiting for akiragale_532 go sign the petition and tell your friends about it too.
Hey, here's an idea: The Digimon world accessible through the Pokemon Center Computers. If that happens Poke and Digi fans will come together
Two completely different companies that wouldn't work together if the world literally depended upon it. Get your fix from fanfiction.
Fireprince
09-16-2004, 08:41 AM
Two completely different companies that wouldn't work together if the world literally depended upon it. Get your fix from fanfiction.
Yah it's like Sar Trek & Star wars, or Coke & Pepsi...
Dr. Blaine
09-16-2004, 07:24 PM
I still don't like the idea of pokemon dying with the slightly possible exception of from old age. but even then it dosen't make me happy.
Fireprince
09-17-2004, 10:19 AM
I still don't like the idea of pokemon dying with the slightly possible exception of from old age. but even then it dosen't make me happy.
Lots of anime are old, but are as popular as ever(Evangelion, Astro Boy)at least in japan. Everyone else(especially Americans) have a different view on popular stuff. Stuff like Pokemon wasn't made just to die of old age, even if it was ment mainly for kids... but ppl automatically marked it as a fad.
SkilledDark22
09-17-2004, 10:47 PM
when it comes to this rpg, the only thing i would care about would have to be joining team rocket seeing as i used to steal pokemon back in the days of the red and blue versions of the game mwa ha ha ha
Leelue
02-18-2005, 11:53 AM
Oh man, i finnaly got to an internet connection (at the library) its been 8 months since. just checking how this thread was doing. did anybody get word from nintendo, etc? probably not, but whatever. oh, and how many signings do we have of the petition we had going?
Chaos Swordsman
02-19-2005, 05:14 PM
why did you reivive this 8 month old topic?
WildWill
02-20-2005, 11:49 AM
OK How many times do we HAVE TO TELL YOU?
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT REVIVING OLD TOPICS. STOP REPORTING THEM.
And change your signature, the maximum allowed size is 468x60 pixels and 20kb
Yours is too tall and too long. Resize it ASAP or it'll be removed.
Fireprince
02-20-2005, 10:34 PM
why did you reivive this 8 month old topic?
Didn't he say why he did? He couldn't respond to it back then. It'd be wrong to not let him continue to talk about something that he fell behind on just because it's old news to us...
Anyway, back on topic, eh? :p
Chaos Swordsman
02-21-2005, 10:09 AM
OK How many times do we HAVE TO TELL YOU?
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT REVIVING OLD TOPICS. STOP REPORTING THEM.
And change your signature, the maximum allowed size is 468x60 pixels and 20kb
Yours is too tall and too long. Resize it ASAP or it'll be removed.
sorry for reporting it (I don't think I did :confused: ).I changed my sig.
Anyways back on topic did you find new about MMORPG
Undrave
02-21-2005, 11:50 AM
Let's resume discussion on this then.
I think Larousse City (from Destiny Deoxys) and the Battle Frontier (from Emerald) would be AWESOME place to visit! ^^ whatdo you think?
The game should also have huge wilderness area, like you could travel all the way to the northpole or something.
Super Shadow
02-23-2005, 11:27 AM
Dude,Secret Bases could be our gyms!! After you fill out a certain amount on your trainers card, you have a gym. But it gets better! You could also travel everywhere else a Pokemon game's been based on! (haven't seen johto in a while) Remeber that old man in Vermillion City and his machop? Well after you get your gym, where he was constructing could become a shop that sells gym traps and badges!!
Pokemaniac Jo Jo Gun
02-27-2005, 03:25 PM
Snazzy, secret bases, our own gyms......I like it! But heres something we should focus on:tickets. (No, not the kind cops put on your windshield outside of Krispy Kremes, I mean ferry tickets.) C'mon, y'all know that having to go to some concert in Georgia or somwhere just to get a Deoxys is outragous(Some of us live out in the backwoods, don't wanna call any names *cough* "me!" *cough*)so it'd be awesome if you could get tickets from gamefreak(no, not the one with the abra avitar, the one in the motel). Like for instace, if you show 2 spinda with matching spots to the lady at lilycove motel, she'd say: "Oh, those Spinda tickle my heart just like the sea breeze!
Pokemaniac Jo Jo Gun
02-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Snazzy, secret bases, our own gyms......I like it! But heres something we should focus on:tickets. (No, not the kind cops put on your windshield outside of Krispy Kremes, I mean ferry tickets.) C'mon, y'all know that having to go to some concert in Georgia or somwhere just to get a Deoxys is outragous(Some of us live out in the backwoods, don't wanna call any names *cough* "me!" *cough*)so it'd be awesome if you could get tickets from gamefreak(no, not the one with the abra avitar, the one in the motel). Like for instace, if you show 2 spinda with matching spots to the lady at lilycove motel, she'd say: "Oh, those Spinda tickle my heart just like the sea breeze! Let me thank you!" Obtained mystery ticket! :D
Pokeballistic
02-28-2005, 09:32 AM
The question still remainsthat will nintendo make such a game and whether it will be for all formats or not
I think the last thing on their minds is an online game since they are too busy making Diamond and Pearl
Tal II
02-28-2005, 10:21 AM
An MMORPG would be pretty cool, but I doubt it'll be made...Pokemon just seems to be a 1-player thing not including battling/trading.
Dr. Blaine
03-02-2005, 09:32 AM
Lots of anime are old, but are as popular as ever(Evangelion, Astro Boy)at least in japan. Everyone else(especially Americans) have a different view on popular stuff. Stuff like Pokemon wasn't made just to die of old age, even if it was ment mainly for kids... but ppl automatically marked it as a fad.
What on earth are you talking about? I was talking about how I didn't like the idea of pokemon on the games dying from old age, like the type you capture and train and such. Did you think I was talking about pokemon as a whole?
Charninja
03-08-2006, 04:54 PM
Well, I assume the policy about old threads hasn't changed since Will posted, so here goes with some new ideas now that the Revolution's controller has been released.
1. Aimed attacks, for moves like Hydro Pump, Flame Thrower, Hyperbeam, and the like. A new level of precision where both your own reflexes and the stats of the 'mon are of equal importance to keep your sights on target.
2. Even more customization options for clothes, badges, personal gyms, secret bases, and whatever else can be customized.
3. Fishing for Magikarp and Goldeen just got a lot more fun.
4. Turn the move Fly into a real mode of transportation, like surf, or dive complete with special pokemon that can only be found in the skies. A Pilot Wings engine should be most acceptable.
5. Catch pokemon with a flick of the wrist instead of a menu choice. The same factors in the old games still apply, but now, you actually need to be a decent shot if you want to expand your collection.
6. Voice chat with a microphone nunchuk accessory. Probably mentioned before, but now it's a lot more viable. Voice chat, and the ability to call out pokemon and attacks adds a new level of realism.
7. Contests just got more fun. Why use a few moves when your contestant can break dance?
8. Text messaging for friends or rivals, and even basic translation funcionality for foriegn players so that EVERYBODY can get in on the action.
9. Trick out bike riding to new levels of pimpitude. Not unlike Flying or Diving, but the lack in overall manueverability (what with not being able to go up or down and what have you) would be more than made up with a trick feature. Do the right trick at the right time, and an NPC could give you items or access to events or even areas because they are so impressed. Alternatively, let everybody watch and rate your performance, and if you do pretty well, you can win even better stuff.
10. Actually be able to pet or strike your pokemon, a 'la Black and White.
Don't be shy, people. I know there's more out there, if we only try to come up with it.
Dr. Blaine
03-08-2006, 05:06 PM
1. Aimed attacks, for moves like Hydro Pump, Flame Thrower, Hyperbeam, and the like. A new level of precision where both your own reflexes and the stats of the 'mon are of equal importance to keep your sights on target.
Are you thinking something along the lines of actually controling the pokemon you battle with?
If they wanted to make it more like the show and less of a turn based game, they could set it up where once you enter battle, the control shifts from your characther into the actual pokemon. Different buttons (or button combos) could be assigned to perform different attacks (in a Tony Hawk style selection system). One button could be assigned to recall the Pokemon in battle. I don't know how you'd do two-pokemon battles. The stats would naturally affect how effective the pokemon are, with things like speed affecting how fast you can move the pokemon.
To account for pokemon that don't care about their trainers, the system could be set up where if your pokemon doesn't have respect for you, it's likely to go a different direction or fight your controls.
I'm sure I'll expand this more later, but this is just a start of an idea.
Senju
03-08-2006, 05:27 PM
If they wanted to make it more like the show and less of a turn based game, they could set it up where once you enter battle, the control shifts from your characther into the actual pokemon. Different buttons (or button combos) could be assigned to perform different attacks
I think if a Pokemon game was made for the Revolution, it would keep a turn based fighting system. If it was a player-controlled system, then Pokemon would probably play too much like a fighting game. I do think the player should have more control over his pokemon though. I think there should be a dodging system where you can dodge the enemy's attacks by moving the controller.
I think having TOO much control over your pokemon is a bad idea. You supposed to play the role of the pokemon trainer who barks orders for his pokemon. The pokemon may not want to obey you. And even if YOU are a master with the controller, your pokemon's strength should be determined by how well you raised them, and not too much as how well you can use a controller.
Plus, many RPG fans, especially Pokemon fans, are not very good at fast-paced action games. They like RPG's because they are slower and you don't constantly "die." Making the battles very action-orientated will most likely frustrate the Pokemon and RPG fans.
Charninja
03-09-2006, 03:00 PM
I think if a Pokemon game was made for the Revolution, it would keep a turn based fighting system. If it was a player-controlled system, then Pokemon would probably play too much like a fighting game. I do think the player should have more control over his pokemon though. I think there should be a dodging system where you can dodge the enemy's attacks by moving the controller.
I think having TOO much control over your pokemon is a bad idea. You supposed to play the role of the pokemon trainer who barks orders for his pokemon. The pokemon may not want to obey you. And even if YOU are a master with the controller, your pokemon's strength should be determined by how well you raised them, and not too much as how well you can use a controller.
Plus, many RPG fans, especially Pokemon fans, are not very good at fast-paced action games. They like RPG's because they are slower and you don't constantly "die." Making the battles very action-orientated will most likely frustrate the Pokemon and RPG fans.
Well, they could always make it an option. The players can choose whether they want full control or a more turn based system. Then, both trainers have to agree which system will be used for their battle.
Also, I've done so more thinking on the class system. Most of the stuff I mentioned back at the beginning of this thread still applies, but I really think it would be fun. I mean, World of Warcraft is doing REALLY well with the job system, the crafters, the enchanters, the leatherworkers, the miners, etc.
As a recap:
Cooltrainers would focus most on battle. The more battles they win, and the better win-loss record they have, add certain special bonuses. Attacks are more likely to poison, paralyze, burn, freeze, or whatever, or even otherwise normal attacks cause the opponent to flinch because of sheer force of will. The problem is, they need lots of charisma (a trainer only trait) and keeping it up with nice clothes and accessories can get expensive. And since those things cost money, they have to win, which in turn helps their record. A good cooltrainer is a very powerful opponent, but a bad one is downright pathetic.
Hikers have a lot more stamina and can travel a lot farther a lot faster for a lot longer. They also get more berries for pokeblocs and food as their record improves, and instead of having a random battle, can actually use their knowledge of nature to not only know what pokemon they are going up against in the wild, but also get to choose which pokemon they want to go in with before it starts, or get a free chance to run away. However, their pokemon really don't like eating nothing but granola for days at a time, which is the only kind of food the hiker can make, and while it is effective, it can cause problems for long treks. Also, while they do get plenty of berries, unless they are exceptionally rare, they don't get much money at all. They are, after all, berries. Because of they don't often have much money to wager for a battle, they don't often make much for winning. This difficulty can be overcome with a good record, but it's still difficult.
Blackbelts don't need pokemon to use Strength or Rock Smash, and they can train fighting type pokemon outside of battle, as well as slightly increase their chance for a critical hit. However, all other types have a disadvantage when being used by a blackbelt, especially psychic types for obvious reasons. However, as always, so long they are treated properly, any pokemon can be used effectively.
Swimmers, as I mentioned way back when, don't need a pokemon to traverse bodies of water, and can even swim up waterfalls once their record becomes good enough. However, they need to either use a pokemon to dive, or invest very heavily in scuba gear. Obviously, they gain an even larger bonus for water type pokemon when battling in an aquatic arena, but their disadvantages when using fire types, as well as going against electric or plant types increase even more than mere type weakness. They can also find and sell shells for small sums of money, but like the hiker, don't usually get much from battling.
Bug-catchers and Fishermen/women gain bonuses when using bug or water type pokemon, obviously. Also, their chances for catching those types in a battle are increased greatly. Additionally, they can sell normal bugs or fish that are caught automatically whenever they are in a forest, field, pier, stream, or ocean, or even sell bug or water type pokemon themselves for significantly more cash. However, the disadvantages against flying, fire, and poison types (for bug-catchers) and plant and electric types (for fishermen/women) become even bigger, and, as always, rarely have much cash to spare.
Journeytrainers are exactly the kind of trainer Ash and the videogame characters are. They battle well, need pokemon to do pretty much everything except walk, talk, or use the bike, and do well with all pokemon types equally well. The only disadvantage they have is that they can't go on job-specific quests like the others can, and the only real advantage is that they start with the most money and can make the most through battling of all the other types of trainers IF they are good enough.
Psychics don't do punishment games like what was originally proposed, but do have such a massive bonus when using them that they are a real threat to contend with. They also don't need pokemon to move or destroy obstacles, activate switches on screen, and even prevent random battles when their win-loss record is high enough or their pokemon are at least 10 levels stronger than whatever is around. That ability is purely on command though, and can be cancelled at any time. Also, they and Journeytrainers are the only two jobs to truly be able to use psychics to their full potential. Other jobs certainly can capture and use them, but they are generally difficult to control until their trust has been earned. Psychics don't have that problem.
Pokenerds choose two types at the beginning of the game, and, for an obscene amount of money, can change what those types are by going to a school. Those two types of pokemon are the only types they may use at all, but the massive bonuses to criticals and natural likability, as well as a lessening of type weaknesses and increasing of elemental strengths do rather make up for this. Also, they start with nearly as much money as Journeytrainers, and can teach ANY TM or HM to their pokemon, no matter what.
Scientists don't have nearly the stamina or speed of other trainers, but start with the most money, and get a significant boost when using poison and electric type pokemon. Also, in return for giving up time that could be used for training and questing, they can work at a lab for a pretty decent amount of money. However, the time spent is real time. They get paid several thousand pokedollars an hour if their record is good enough, but they pretty much have to stop playing for the rest of the day in order to collect a paycheck. Annoying and slow, but potions, pokeballs, and other special items are also cheaper, and where it would only take a scientist a few days of lost play time to buy some super item, it could take other jobs weeks of real time.
Come on people, I'm sure you've all got ideas too.
Senju
03-09-2006, 04:38 PM
Those are some cool classes Charninja!
Every MMORPG needs a "bad guy" class. Like rogues and thieves. I think there should be a Poke-thief class too, like Team Rocket, Team Magma, and Team Aqua members. You should be able to join one of the teams. I don't think being able to steal a trainer's pokemon is fair because I'd hate to train a pokemon for a long time only to have it stolen from me. I think they should be able to steal items and cash from NPC's and even other trainers. They should be able to break into buildings and disarm traps in player quests. And you can choose which clothes to wear, don't wear your team uniform in a city or Officer Jenny (the evil admin) will get you!!!:p Maybee you can even have a bounty on your head if you do too many bad things and get caught.
Dr. Blaine
03-09-2006, 07:43 PM
I'm not sure that people should be stuck with one class the entire game if they don't want to. Perhaps anyone could change their class for a fee (they'd keep the stats they'd earned as a different class, they just wouldn't get the bonuses), it's just that Nerds (being the steriotypical nerds they are) would be able to change their class for less than any of the other classes (because, being the steriotypical nerd, they study harder, know more, and thus are able spend less time and money since they spend less time learning to be a new class).
Another possibility is that everyone gets two classes - a primary class and a secondary class (except for those who choose a nerd for their primary class). They get the primary bonuses of the first class, and the secondary bonus of the secondary class. A nerd with a third class gets some of the bonuses of that class, but not as many as they get from the secondary class. For those who don't want to choose multiple classes, the bonus of their first class would be greater than those who do choose two classes (you can either pick diversity or power). Other possible things that can go with this include bonuses for certian class combinations (Nerd/Scientist, cooltrainer/journytrainer, ect) and possibly class combinations that don't work as well for those who don't use them right.
Perhaps some classes would only be accesable after you've done something (it wouldn't be very difficult, it would just be something). Perhaps becoming a scientist would only be accessable after you've talked to a scientist and done a couple small tasks for them, at which point you get a chance to apprentice to them, thus becoming a scientist.
Another possibility is that a rouge/villan class would be earned after you've joined Team Rocket/Aqua/Magma or something like that. At that point, you would be able to steal pokemon from other trainers, but there would be limitations.
*You can't steal pokemon that are rare. Only uncommon and common pokemon could be stolen.
*You can't steal pokemon that have been with a trainer after a pre-determined amount of time (the pokemon are more loyal to their trainers and will fight harder).
*You can't steal pokemon above a certian level.
*You can't steal a pokemon if its the only one a person is carrying/only pokemon a person has that is capable of fighting.
*You can't steal pokemon that were gained through special methods.
There would be more limitations, and systems to keep people from preying on the weak/new players, but even so, those who really want to steal pokemon and let out their evil side could do so. These pokemon could then be turned in for money, or kept for yourself. However, if someone who is ranked above you finds out about this stolen pokemon, and wants it, you better give it up or there will be problems. Another limitation to being a villan is that you can't carry or own as many pokemon (3 or 4 as oppoed to 6 for carrying, possibly a total of 10 at most in a storage box) and you would be regularily required to turn in powerful pokemon other than your 1 or 2 main fighters and possibly 3 reservs to the boss so that they can use them in their evil plans. Thus, the major disadvantage of being an evil member is that you can't build up a collection of pokemon, and you regularily loose at least half your team in order to keep the villan class from becoming too lucrative.
I'm also thinking about one or two more classes that could be added in, both from the TV show (mostly). They're not as detailed as Charninja's classes (I don't think) but I'm putting them out there anyways -
Pokemon photographer/Pokemon sketcher
You remeber Pokemon SNAP? Of course you do. All us pokemon fans remember Pokemon Snap. Well, as a pokemon photographer/pokemon sketcher, your main focus would be doing the kinds of stuff you do in pokemon snap or the kind of stuff Tracy Sketchit does. Only you wouldn't be limited to a track. They'd be two variations of the same class, only a photographer uses a camera while a sketcher uses pen/pencil and paper. A photo would be easier to take and would be faster, while a drawing would be worth more. The more photos/drawings you've taken of a high enough quality, the more you can earn for them. These in turn could be used to buy better equiptment. They wouldn't be as good at training, and couldn't earn as much money from it, and might be limited in the pokemon they can carry. However, they could be employed by scientists (possibly even player charachter scientists) to capture specific pokemon on paper/photo for their work. There might also be magazines that look for specific photos (National Pokegraphic, anyone?).
Pokemon Breeder/contester (whatever they call it).
Essentially, your main focus is pokemon contests (Like May). You focus on teaching skills that win you more contests, and are better at making berries. I've got less detail I've thought up on this class.
Charninja
03-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Pokemon Breeder/contester (whatever they call it).
Essentially, your main focus is pokemon contests (Like May). You focus on teaching skills that win you more contests, and are better at making berries. I've got less detail I've thought up on this class.
They're called coordinators.
Also, here's kinda how I think it should be broken down. There are three classes: Trainers, Breeders, and Coordinators. Trainers are best at battling and winning minigames. Breeders are best at, well, breeding, as well as crafting items. Coordinators are best at competing in contests and are generally better able to convince people to give them items or what have you.
Then, there are the jobs. Those are the cooltrainers, photographers, and what have you. All jobs can be played by all classes, but there are obvious advantages to picking the "right" job for your class. Cooltrainers and journeytrainers are obviously best as... trainers. Hikers and scientists are better breeders. Pokenerds make great coordinators, but cooltrainers can do pretty well with that too.
As for the thief job, well, they can obviously steal pokemon, and I think Blaine came up most of what I would have put in. Only things I'd add is that they have a natural affinity for dark, poison, and normal types, and when battling, can automatically go into two-on-one mode when their record is high enough, and even three-on-one mode if their rank in their organization is pretty high up there. They also get the most money from battling, but lose the most as well. Also, when using multiple pokemon, a thief can only command one pokemon, and the other two act according to their personality and move set, so it's possible for horrible accidents (from the thief's point of view at least) to occur. Also, they pay more for potions from black market dealers that have a small chance of doing nothing, or even damaging the mon. They COULD steal perfectly good potions from shops, but unless they have a really good record, it's all too possible for them to get caught, lose all their money, and get their pokemon confiscated. Then, they need to send a request to the organization to send a new pokemon over, and there's a 33:33:33:1 chance that what they get is pathetic, decent, good, or awesome. The ratio gets better as your record improves.
Dr. Blaine
03-10-2006, 12:56 AM
They're called coordinators.
Also, here's kinda how I think it should be broken down. There are three classes: Trainers, Breeders, and Coordinators, and Thieves. Trainers are best at battling and winning minigames. Breeders are best at, well, breeding, as well as crafting items. Coordinators are best at competing in contests and are generally better able to convince people to give them items or what have you.
Then, there are the jobs. Those are the cooltrainers, photographers, and what have you. All jobs can be played by all classes, but there are obvious advantages to picking the "right" job for your class. Cooltrainers and journeytrainers are obviously best as... trainers. Hikers and scientists are better breeders. Pokenerds make great coordinators, but cooltrainers can do pretty well with that too.
Three classes? I count Four.
Yeah, Coordinator, that's what I was talking about.
This systems of classes and jobs seems different from what you were talking about before. Not to mention that it doesn't seem to work with the idea of a Nerd changing their class, as you've got 'Nerd' listed as a job here. It's a lot easier for someone to change their job than to change their class/career.
I'm also not seeing how Breeder fits in as a class rather than a job. Perhaps the classes could be Trainer, Coordinator, Scientist, and Theif/Villain (I like the sound of Villan more than the sound of Theif). Trainer would encompas those who focus on training of one sort or another, Coordinator would focus on those who try to improve their pokemon's looks/contest abilities, Scientists would focus on learning more about pokemon as a whole, and Villain would be everyone who does evil deeds. There could even be a fifth class for those who dont' know what they want to be - the General/Miscilanious/Standard Class. They don't excel at anything, but they're not weak at anything either.
Charninja
03-10-2006, 07:39 AM
Hehe... it was another long post... kinda got mixed up a bit through it, sorry.
As to what I believe seperates a job from a class:
Jobs determine what pokemon you are best at using, as well as give you certain skills the other jobs don't have.
Classes determine your goals. While breeders and coordinators can battle, and trainers and breeders can enter contests, and breeders and coordinators can breed their pokemon (like in the game boy games), each class has different ways of gaining recognition or improving their record. Trainers win battles, coordinators win or at least do relatively well at contests, and breeders breed the best pokemon they possibly can. While trainers can improve their record the easiest of the three, coordinators and breeders gain access to higher level abilities a lot faster.
This being the case, there is no real way to really win the game. Even if you get every single badge, win every single contest, beat all of the elite fours and champions of every region, you are now nothing more than a giant friggin' target. Everybody will always try to beat the best. That's what pokemon is all about.
Dr. Blaine
03-10-2006, 08:44 AM
I'm still just seeing Breeder and Coordinator as being too close together as a class. I'm just behind the idea of having some combined class that covers both the breeder and coordinator and putting in a scientist class.
Hollow Golem
03-10-2006, 09:38 AM
Wow you guys thought this out. Bravo. I'd get it.
Charninja
03-10-2006, 01:32 PM
Jobs are what the all the other trainers you see in the games are. Fisherman Tim, Scientist Bobby, Cooltrainer Jill, stuff like that. That's why I think scientists should be a job and not a class.
The reason I don't think breeders and coordinators should be combined is that... well, most coordinators know diddly squat about breeding. Breeders make pokemon pretty and literally pimp them out. Coordinators train the pokemon themselves, teach them the moves and tricks and tactics to win the judges and/or audience over. That's where I believe the difference lies.
Leelue
03-10-2006, 11:52 PM
Whao, wasn't this thread dead?
I still call rights to this game, so i can get it for free.
I only read the top post on this page....
Breeder could get IV bonuses, like a breeeder should, and a coordinator could have, say a luck boost in contests, aas well as slightly above avarage other stats (think mario in super smash brothers melee)
Wow, i need to go back and read all this.
should we get that petition started again?
Slowbro
03-14-2006, 03:07 PM
This may be the longest living thread EVER! Anyway, I don't think that anything will ever happen unless this thread gets out to the main page or something. There are ONLY 95 signatures on the petition, and that's not really saying much. We need advertising!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: The average signatures on each petition, on that site, is about 107--we're below the average. Get the heck up, average!!
-Slowbro
Undrave
03-14-2006, 05:27 PM
I think Thief or Villain should be a job, rather than a class. All class could do villainous act and steal stuff but then you could get recruited in one of the 'PokéMafia' and get the 'villain' job.
Villains could gain bonus from doing bad things but the more of a bad rep you get the more in trouble you are once caught. You could end up spending lots of game time locked away in jail for exemple. Also when you steal a Poké there's should be a chance for the other player to get it back. Basically you can't log out (if you do you loose the stolen Pokémon) until after you reached a certain spot you previously set as your hideout and stay undetected there for a certain amount of time, until then the Pokémon is classed as 'stolen'. If the other player or someone else catch up to you while you have a Pokémon said to be 'stolen' they get to battle you and if you loose you get kicked out of the area (blasting off again! hehehehe) and you drop the stolen Pokémon! Or something to that effect.
Mushroom Pie
03-15-2006, 05:55 PM
Wow, I just read my old post on this thread, from back in '04. I was pretty stupid back then, wasn't I (and please, no comments about how it hasn't changed. T_T)?
Anyway, I think that now that the Rev is gonna be pushing the wi-fi thing so much, this game just became a lot more probable.
Battles seem to be something that we're having a tough time agreeing with. Here's how I think it should be done:
When a battle starts, you can choose a number of camera angles: a side view, an overhead view, a view that closely follows your active Pokemon, or an RE4-type view, where the camera is resting on your character's shoulder.
You would give commands by either using voice-recognition or a point-and-click menu. Your Pokemon, who would use it's AI for dodging and the like, would use the selected attack as soon as it had an opportune moment to do so. If the Pokemon is too strong to listen to you, it might ignore you, or wait to carry out the command until it's good and ready.
Your Pokemon could remember certain things, as well; for instance, if you keep using a particular Pokemon in a gym and keep losing, the Pokemon will become more and more tense during the fight, maybe circling the oponent slowly, scowling and growling while doing so, as opposed to pouncing right in. Or, if your Pokemon has consistantly beaten a particular opponent in the past, it may act arrogant and unattentive, confident that it can win. If it's a first-time encounter with a Pokemon with an extremely inferior level, maybe your Pokemon could comically blow the enemy away, underestimating its own strength.
How's this as an idea for an opening video?
A generic trainer is walking through a field of waist-high grass, a Pikachu perched happily on his shoulder. The camera has a few establishing shots of the field, the Pokemon, and the trainer. Suddenly, the trainer stops; something's rustling in the bushes. Both he and his Pikachu tense up, and continue to stare at the spot. There's a moment of tense silence, then, the grass shakes as a Rattata leaps into the air and comes flying down at the pair. The Pikachu leaps from the trainer's shoulders, firing a bolt of lightning at the Rattata, stunning it and throwing it to the ground. The Pikachu lands near it and headbutts it high into the air. Cut to the trainer, who winds up and launches a Pokeball, slamming into the Rattata high in the sky and catching it. The Pokeball falls back to Earth, until it completely fills the screen. It then pulls back a little, revealing a black background behind it. The words "Pokemon Online" fade onto the screen, and after another moment, the start menu.
You know what would be an interesting course of actions for the legendaries? Have Nintendo officially announce that they're not present in the game. Then, have some strange areas that apparently lead nowhere; an undersea cavern in which you pass out from lack of air before completely traversing; a volcano with a well-hidden labyrinth of tunnels, but whoever's lucky enough to find them would be extremely hard-pressed to get through them before the volcano erupts; A powerful wind on the seas when flying in a certain direction long enough, assumedly a trick used to keep players from going further than they're supposed to; A tunnel that is pitch black, and when Flash is used, is apparently a dead-end corridor. However, unbeknownst to most, if you try and go throughout WITHOUT Flash, you'll find yourself instead in a complex tunnel system. At the end of these, obviously, would be a Legendary. Maybe my examples aren't the best, but the point is that it should be downright REDICULOUSLY hard to find and traverse these places, to the point where many players would be fed up with trying to check it out even if they did manage to find them. Like, I want a good two years passing before anyone figures out the trick to getting to a legendary.
Even then, maybe they wouldn't be catchable. Maybe they would give you a "blessing" that vastly powers up any Pokemon you own of the same type. Or, maybe you could bring a Ditto along and teach it how to transform into that Pokemon permanently.
Sephiroth5567
03-16-2006, 05:27 AM
I'd buy it! If I ever get a laptop.
Undrave
03-16-2006, 10:22 AM
I'd buy it! If I ever get a laptop.
I doubt it would be on the computer.
I'd like it to be on the DS since it has Wi-Fi capability and handheld is Pokémon's home turf.
You should be able to tell your Pokémon when to dodge, telling it to wait until the last moment so the opponent Pokémon doesn't just redirect the attack or to open opportunity. You could risk letting the Pokémon try to dodge by itself (they could have Pokémon learn special dodging move like air dodge!) or say 'wait' 'wait' 'DODGE!' into the microphone ^^
Dr. Blaine
03-16-2006, 05:06 PM
I doubt it would be on the computer.
I'd like it to be on the DS since it has Wi-Fi capability and handheld is Pokémon's home turf.
You should be able to tell your Pokémon when to dodge, telling it to wait until the last moment so the opponent Pokémon doesn't just redirect the attack or to open opportunity. You could risk letting the Pokémon try to dodge by itself (they could have Pokémon learn special dodging move like air dodge!) or say 'wait' 'wait' 'DODGE!' into the microphone ^^
I was thinking it would be more of a Revolution game.
Perhaps they could throw in a Mario RPG style dodge/superattack system. If you know the right time to press the appropriate button, you can cause your pokemon to hit your opponent and cause them to get hit instead of your own pokemon. And on the flip side of that, there'd be the possibility to hit other pokemon with superattacks if you hit, say, the 'A' button at the right time.
Charninja
03-17-2006, 11:08 AM
I was thinking it would be more of a Revolution game.
Perhaps they could throw in a Mario RPG style dodge/superattack system. If you know the right time to press the appropriate button, you can cause your pokemon to hit your opponent and cause them to get hit instead of your own pokemon. And on the flip side of that, there'd be the possibility to hit other pokemon with superattacks if you hit, say, the 'A' button at the right time.
That... might work. However, it would definitely have to be adjusted for level. Something like only pokemon of level ten or higher could do it, and all a success means is that the odds of dodging or lessening the damage increased by about 10%, unless there's a massive level difference which would result in outright perfect dodging (or critical hits) every time.
Dr. Blaine
03-17-2006, 11:32 AM
Well, stats are going to have an effect on when you have to use the effect, as are status effects. And I'm not saying that you'd be nessicarily able to do it every time, but it might make the critical hit and dodging less random and make people work to get such bonuses.
Undrave
03-17-2006, 11:59 AM
True...
I think though that the levels should be more subtle than one big overall level. To make it closer to the Anime a Pokémon could master dodging skills and yet attack at the level of a LV10, basically making it so you can customize your Pokémon to your liking and that a overall higher level and type advantage doesn't assure you victory. Every Pokémon, with enough training, should have the potential to be a champion, just so that you don't always see people running about with a Blaziken and Gardevoir for exemple... (I dunno what's the most 'Standard' theme right now) and you could keep your Pokémon unevolved and still be competitive (I like my Aron the way it is!).
Maybe there could be certain Pokémons that don't WANT to evolve, those Pokémon could gain certain bonuses to compensate.
Dr. Blaine
03-17-2006, 05:52 PM
That, and they could introduce things like 'Evolvinon', the mysterious disorder that pokemon is born with that prevents the pokemon from evolving (they lack the right genes).
I think I could have fun with unevolved pokemon if they set it up that way...
Dr. Blaine sent out a Lv. 75 Weedle!
"iSting, rollout attack!"
Leelue
03-17-2006, 09:51 PM
That, and they could introduce things like 'Evolvinon', the mysterious disorder that pokemon is born with that prevents the pokemon from evolving (they lack the right genes).
I think I could have fun with unevolved pokemon if they set it up that way...
Dr. Blaine sent out a Lv. 75 Weedle!
"iSting, rollout attack!"
OMFG THATS SO UBER HAWT WITH MAGICARP!
I could see that with pokemon that change type upon evolution, like shroomish or staryu, so you can use the moveset and some of the stats without using the types.
For the previous post, that idea is so beasty, it actually was one of mine long ago. there could be like 10 different stats (evasion, poison chance resistance, critical hit ratio, um, Underdog [which would give you a big bonus when fighting much better pokemon] (like Ashes Pikachu would have it because he somehow killed that dragonite) Loyalty (If its your last pokemon, it gets stat boosts so it can try to survive)) that you can upgrade and are randomly chosen for you to spend EXP points on (this would however, keep you from leveling up totally, for strategies sake). And even better, the less EV's the pokemon has, the more you can upgrade these stats and the more random stats they let you upgrade.
Could you imagine being a pokemon chemist, making your own potions mixing the, o say, 24 chemicals in the game (and find more from the HUNDREDS of plants and pokemon secretions in the game) and full heals or splicing berries together?
awhoooooo.
Ooooh, ubersexymundo
You could have have your actuall love for the pokemon as well.
If The game finds it obvious you care for certain pokemon more than others (switching it out of battle so it does not die, it has the most haircuts out of all your pokemon, giving it cookies instead of potions, never sending it to the daycare, not making it do contests if its nature does not want it to, and such) then it could have the above explained stats have more effect (especially underdog and loyalty)
Plus you could have the personalities actually do something to itself. Like bashfull would make it harder to mate.
And MORE GENES!
*pkrs should be genetic
*Color inheritence for people who want to sell eggs (Imagine a Jet Black Golduck)
*Natures
*Fathers should be able to have kids of their own species
*More genes if the baby turns out to be male/female, same species
*Affinity for certain types of attacks, Both for contest attacks and battle attacks (like a psyduck could get a 5% boost for using beauty moves in battle)
*Stamina
*Appearence Mutations/New Attack mutations
Imagine actually EVOLVING pokemon. Like into NEW pokemon.
Each pokemon could have stats for itself
Strength
Weight
Color
Speed
Stamina
and if you bred like a Black golduck with a Black golduck, and both were especially heavy and slow, and did this selective breeding to the rest of the offspring, following certain mutations (Like an increase in the base Sp ATK)
and certain atacks for the pokemon could also change (bubblebeam on this golduck seems especially strong, and it always lowers a little speed... hmmm...) then eventually you will end up with a Big fat Black Duck, with its very own unique attack.
THis would take moths though, maybe a year.
Programming all this will be hell though.
I'll do it
no joke
Ultimate_Evil
04-03-2006, 04:21 PM
what is a mmorpg. tell me please because it sound interesting.
Undrave
04-05-2006, 09:13 AM
what is a mmorpg. tell me please because it sound interesting.
mmorpg means Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Like World of Warcraft or Dungeons and Dragons Online or City of Heroes/Villains, etc.
Chiba
04-11-2006, 07:02 AM
MMORPG means Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.....................................anyway I like it, Pokemon MMORPG that sounds fun just thinking about it making your own character and making your own pokemon journey to be the greatest pokemon master an without anyone telling you to do awsome.....................................I will support you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!(sorry I been hyperactive coz I'm new here and this is the first bulletin message board :p) and ohh yeah I just found a pokemon online game and here is the site T_T i can't play coz i dont read liberty language
http://www.liberty-online.new.fr/
Charninja
04-29-2006, 09:19 PM
Pokemon is destined for the Wii. If Gamefreak and the other Nintendo big-wigs aren't on to that simple fact, I'm calling in a hit from godzilla.
Undrave
04-30-2006, 10:36 AM
Yeah exploring the world of Pokemon online would be just awesome.
I dunno about Godzilla... it's a bit too destructive :p maybe send in something more appropriate like Team Rocket in one of their robots hehehe.
Or maybe a ninja Charmander ;)
Charninja
04-30-2006, 09:51 PM
Yeah exploring the world of Pokemon online would be just awesome.
I dunno about Godzilla... it's a bit too destructive :p maybe send in something more appropriate like Team Rocket in one of their robots hehehe.
Or maybe a ninja Charmander ;)
Team Rocket? Man, I want those people SCARED.
Ninja Charmander might work though...
Undrave
05-01-2006, 06:07 AM
A pissed of MewTwo maybe?
camenor
05-02-2006, 08:24 AM
I don't know if this has been posted yet as I have only read the first 6 pages so far, but:
I found an article in IGN with some of the best Pomen Online ideas I've seen.:D if you like them, put a link in the petition. (Has it been sent yet?:confused: )
http://cube.ign.com/articles/544/544508p1.html
Dr. Blaine
05-03-2006, 11:31 AM
Its got some good ideas, but I'm not too fond of the idea where you have to wait to get to another region, you get zapped back to your home every time you log off, and that its possible to loose your pokemon if you just don't use it.
More realistic? Maybe (except for the zapping back home part). But hey, this is a pokemon videogame. It's not supposed to be realistic. It's supposed to be fun. And where's the fun in loosing pokemon because you don't use them enough?
ultima kamehameha
05-03-2006, 06:21 PM
losing your pokemon for not using them too much. that would suck. the whole idea of a mmorpg pokemon would be awesome for the wii, and making me want it more if that was to happen
Undrave
05-04-2006, 09:53 AM
I'd like it if the game was more than just 'level up and beat noob at PVP' like every other MMO out there. I'd like a good sense of exploration and entertaining new experiences ya know? Maybe some outlet for creativity would be fun?
ultima kamehameha
05-11-2006, 07:57 PM
well depends on the developers, and how good they're with online games.
Undrave
05-12-2006, 01:19 PM
Another thing I thought of : they shouldn't allow trading your very first Pokémon. That way you won't see people starting accounts just to trade their starter to their main account. That would just suck and lead to CC teams.
And you should be reward for sticking to a team, like your Pokémons get more confident if you use them often and carry them with you than when you keep them in their box all the time.
BACK FAT STABBER
06-03-2006, 03:51 PM
hmm im having just a thought,but it would be a great idea to put a challenge in catching pokemon,when you prepare to throw the poke ball,you would have to aim for the pokemon for example,you'd have a power lvl when you throw and you cant take your time or else the pokemon would run,so you would have to take your time catching it yet do it fast at the same time lets just say you are catching a nidorino and it has 59/59 health and ofcourse,its impossible to catch anything with max hp (unless you have a master ball....)so anywho,you have your pokemon,you would command it to atk the nidorino and by the time the pokemon stops,the nidorino would have about 9/59 hp,then it would be your chance to catch it,its pretty wounded so it cant move as well and fast as it used to,so you aim,power limit it,and then throw the chance of the happening of catching it depends on your throw.accuracy and power is the key,too powerful of a throw and your ball ends up catching a psyduck in the bushes LOL or too weak of a throw would just not reach the pokemons distance.....tell me what you think about this guys just a thought:D
Charninja
06-16-2006, 02:38 AM
hmm im having just a thought,but it would be a great idea to put a challenge in catching pokemon,when you prepare to throw the poke ball,you would have to aim for the pokemon for example,you'd have a power lvl when you throw and you cant take your time or else the pokemon would run,so you would have to take your time catching it yet do it fast at the same time lets just say you are catching a nidorino and it has 59/59 health and ofcourse,its impossible to catch anything with max hp (unless you have a master ball....)so anywho,you have your pokemon,you would command it to atk the nidorino and by the time the pokemon stops,the nidorino would have about 9/59 hp,then it would be your chance to catch it,its pretty wounded so it cant move as well and fast as it used to,so you aim,power limit it,and then throw the chance of the happening of catching it depends on your throw.accuracy and power is the key,too powerful of a throw and your ball ends up catching a psyduck in the bushes LOL or too weak of a throw would just not reach the pokemons distance.....tell me what you think about this guys just a thought:D
Well, if Im reading this correctly (big IF, that) then that idea has been proposed a time or two already. Now that the Wii is in the offing in a few months, such a mechanic is immenently possible.
So nice to see someone finally has something say, at least. I thought this thread (heck, this forum) had died for a bit back there.
Leelue
06-20-2006, 09:14 PM
yo, further up the page (or on the last one if this is the first on a new page) can someone or better yet, a few pwoplw look at my ideas?
like EVOLVING pokemon
Dr. Blaine
06-22-2006, 02:03 PM
its impossible to catch anything with max hp (unless you have a master ball....)
I'm not so sure on that. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to catch some low level low power pokemon like Magicarp at max hp with an Ultra ball or possibly even a great ball.
Charninja
07-03-2006, 07:13 AM
I'm not so sure on that. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to catch some low level low power pokemon like Magicarp at max hp with an Ultra ball or possibly even a great ball.
I think I remember doing that way on back just for kicks. It certainly doesnt work on anything over level 4 or whatever, but it is possible. As you say, an ultra ball or a lucky great ball is necessary, of course.
And god... has NO ONE come up with any new ideas? I mean, for now at least I am tapped out, but surely there must be a few people out there with something new to suggest?
jacka314
07-12-2006, 08:28 PM
I reckon a good idea would be for it to be ALOT harder to advance in levels. I mean about 6 hours to gain a pokemons level. and also i remember someone mentioning that you can have 3 profiles for kicks, maybe if you go good on one of your profiles, then the other 2 can get better starting pokemon, like if you have just started, you get pretty weak starting pokemon, such as a pidgey, sentret, ratatta, marill (or azurill), magikarp, goldeen, meowth etc... then when other profiles are more advanced, your other starting profiles get better starting pokemon like a staryu, charmander, squirtle, bulbasaur (and all other versions strting pokemon), magmar, voltorb, pikachu, eevee etc...
and also, wen you put pokemon in to a pc, they just sit there doing nothing, maybe in this one you can buy equipment for them to play with while they are deposited, thus making them like you more.
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have u guys heard of pol, the pokemon online game, its not really up and running yet. they have got a beta game where you just walk and chat (no pokemon yet) and that should be good when it comes out in 2007.
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heres the link http://pokemonol.net/
Dr. Blaine
07-12-2006, 10:39 PM
But is it official? And Mac compatable?
Don't get me wrong, I'll look at it when it goes live, but is this site something that Nintendo might shut down?
legolug
07-25-2006, 02:08 PM
Is there a thread reguarding this really cool idea on the Nintendo website?
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