Viz uses dub names for GX Manga

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

Crap!! In my issue 48 of Shônen JUMP NA, the characters of the GX Manga were revealed to be called by their dub names.

I wonder if it was because UDE has been advertising those stupid names so much.

[marhawkman]

Probably so. :p

[Maestro]

I'm still surprised the first manga doesn't use the dub names

[Asuka Tenjoin]

Crap!! In my issue 48 of Shônen JUMP NA, the characters of the GX Manga were revealed to be called by their dub names.

I wonder if it was because UDE has been advertising those stupid names so much.

...I hate to say I expected this. Get your game on, Professor Winsleydale and your dreadful Dino Decoder Ring. :(

[G3-0R-G3]

Thank you for failing us all VIZ.

Your are dead in the eyes of the Yu-Gi-Oh! fanbase.

[Jimmy Kudo]

Well, if they keep the original personalities, I may still read this...thing...argh!

It's time's like this we thank the Tatsu No Kiba team for their hard work.

[Acid_Kid]

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[ultima kamehameha]

Crap!! In my issue 48 of Shônen JUMP NA, the characters of the GX Manga were revealed to be called by their dub names.

I wonder if it was because UDE has been advertising those stupid names so much.
so what will you do? buy the manga, and make yourself suffer, or stop buying it when the yugioh dm ends?

[Belmot]

Thank you for failing us all VIZ.

Your are dead in the eyes of the Yu-Gi-Oh! fanbase.


Personally, VIZ was already dead in my eyes after they changed the Names of Gin and Vodka into Kaspar and Melchior in the Conan Manga.

NOT EVEN FUNI DID THAT IN THEIR [CENSORED] DUB ! :mad:

(Not that it would personsally effect me, since the both manga are uncensored und unchanged in my country. It only makes me sad for all the US Fans...)

[Exiled]

...I hate to say I expected this. Get your game on, Professor Winsleydale and your dreadful Dino Decoder Ring. :(
Cheadle the III!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pissed as you are

But something tells me the reason why they did this

People who like the dub and read the manga will be confused.

"Why the hell is his name Manjyome. I thought it was Chazz. How the hell do you pronounce Manjyome anyways? 5 O's? 2 U's?

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

I've already lost my respect for Viz.

Ryū-kun is gonna freak.......:(

[Horoko]

Well, won't explaining the whole "we've firmly established the manga is set in Japan" thing they've been doing for so long be extra fun... That also means they'll be giving their "own" names to characters not even in the anime. (So, we can expect some weird crap as Asuka has exampled.)

So, let's all "Get our Game On" with the "sweet" new "Yugi GX" manga from Viz. (What happened Viz? You used to be so cool and for the fans. Now it's all, as someone so bluntly put it somewhere else, "What can I do for you Mr. TV?")

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

Well, won't explaining the whole "we've firmly established the manga is set in Japan" thing they've been doing for so long be extra fun... That also means they'll be giving their "own" names to characters not even in the anime. (So, we can expect some weird crap as Asuka has exampled.)

So, let's all "Get our Game On" with the "sweet" new "Yugi GX" manga from Viz. (What happened Viz? You used to be so cool and for the fans. Now it's all, as someone so bluntly put it somewhere else, "What can I do for you Mr. TV?")

They sold out to ShôPro, that's what.

[Insert foul names here]

[Asuka Tenjoin]

Cheadle the III!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pissed as you are

But something tells me the reason why they did this

People who like the dub and read the manga will be confused.

"Why the hell is his name Manjyome. I thought it was Chazz. How the hell do you pronounce Manjyome anyways? 5 O's? 2 U's?

Which is curious, because theoretically these same people haven't had their fragile xenophobic dub-trained minds blown by the dreadful complexities of Honda, Otogi, and Jounouchi, or even Mahad and Mana. Manjoume is no more difficult to pronounce than Jounouchi is. No one recoiled in disgust and revulsion at Seto Kaiba. The argument simply does not stand up; Yugi Mutoh and Seto Kaiba are as popular as they should have been with no tinkering required. If Yancy Shortson didn't have to d-d-d-d-duel, Jaden Yuki shouldn't be allowed to get his game on.

[Horoko]

They sold out to ShôPro, that's what.

[Insert foul names here]
Yeah...ever since they've become one, they've been doing a number on their manga properties.
If Yancy Shortson didn't have to d-d-d-d-duel, Jaden Yuki shouldn't be allowed to get his game on.
Truer words haven't been spoken.

[JLewko]

Damn. It. All. In America.

[Acid_Kid]

I wonder how Viz became a company of Dee Dee Dees like 4Kids......

[Zalde]

Damn. It. All. In America.

Way to kill the mood.

YBM: What's VIZ's Email? I wanna give them a piece of my mind!

[JLewko]

Way to kill the mood.

YBM: What's VIZ's Email? I wanna give them a piece of my mind!
Well, the first 3 words were serious...

[BEWDMaster]

dubber ruined the menag lopng ago even if they kepted the orignal names they still edited and dubed it so yea its a mess i wont stop buying them but i am not shocked eather i like a lot of stuff in the sj magazines

[KaiserRyo777]

dubber ruined the menag lopng ago even if they kepted the orignal names they still edited and dubed it so yea its a mess i wont stop buying them but i am not shocked eather i like a lot of stuff in the sj magazines

Stop wasting your time here and get help, your sig is not even an insult anymore

On topic

As long as the Cyber D.'s and Kourimaru appear in the manga Im good.....

[`Phenom]

I stopped buying Shonen Jump a long time ago. They should keep the manga true to its original source. I hated when they went and changed names to suit the 4Kids dub names for One Piece and Shaman King, after already using the original names.
Ill only buy it for Promos....

[TrueMariksPower]

I really hoped they would have kept it original and as close to the true manag as possible. I guess they are once again making the smart bueisness descision to osticise the medium serious fanbase and open up to the huge children with parents willing to shell out for cards and shirts and other merchandise.

Alas I feel that too many things are sacrificed in the name of increased profits. Once they make th emanga readiliy know to the kiddies through advirtisements I am sure th edough will roll in.
"Remeber kids, if you are reading it counts as school work. THus GX manga=better grades. Yugioh GX: Kid Tested Mother approved."

[G3-0R-G3]

Stop wasting your time here and get help, your sig is not even an insult anymore

On topic

As long as the Cyber D.'s and Kourimaru appear in the manga Im good.....
Just who do you think you are?

Because you are surely not as important as you may think, running around here and randomly insulting users who have been here far longer then yourself.

[Exiled]

I stopped buying Shonen Jump a long time ago. They should keep the manga true to its original source. I hated when they went and changed names to suit the 4Kids dub names for One Piece and Shaman King, after already using the original names.
Ill only buy it for Promos....
Yeah, but I buy it since technically I love the Yuyu Hakusho Manga and can't get it anywhere else.


Meh

[`Phenom]

Yeah, but I buy it since technically I love the Yuyu Hakusho Manga and can't get it anywhere else.


Meh
That was the only reason I continued to buy it until I decided to drop it for good. Why dont you just buy the volumes?

[Ryusaki]

Ryū-kun is gonna freak.......

Damn right. I mean, why? What's the point? Did anybody complain about the Japanese names Viz use in pretty much every single other manga? In fact, did anyone complain that their earlier manga had more swearing? I bet no one did. Nobody complained.

What makes GX worthy of this change? Because kids know the dub names? Kids managed to get used to original names in the old manga! What happened to being 'faithful'?

In the words of Eric Cartman: "I...am...so...pissed...off!"

[Snodin]

Okay, so Judai will be Jaden and Manjyome will be Chazz.

It can't possibly ruin the blissful plots though.

[Elly]

Okay, so Judai will be Jaden and Manjyome will be Chazz.

It can't possibly ruin the blissful plots though.

Want to bet?

[`Phenom]

Damn right. I mean, why? What's the point? Did anybody complain about the Japanese names Viz use in pretty much every single other manga? In fact, did anyone complain that their earlier manga had more swearing? I bet no one did. Nobody complained.

What makes GX worthy of this change? Because kids know the dub names? Kids managed to get used to original names in the old manga! What happened to being 'faithful'?

In the words of Eric Cartman: "I...am...so...pissed...off!"
Exactly. I thought they would stay true to the source when I first started purchasing. They then proceeded to disappoint me greatly.

[G3-0R-G3]

Okay, so Judai will be Jaden and Manjyome will be Chazz.

It can't possibly ruin the blissful plots though.
Names won't be the only thing changed.

We'll be getting our game on and Chazzin' it up as well.

[`Phenom]

Names won't be the only thing changed.

We'll be getting our game on and Chazzin' it up as well.
And I was actually considering buying Jump again just to read this. I have been completely turned off now. =(

[Green Koolaid]

So what, they are not worried about the people who read and watch in the original Japanese form. All they want is to make money from the army of kids who are only familiar with the dub. And I dont care, as long as it keeps the property in the light so that I can read and watch in my own language. Its not like anyone is reading it for the story(anyone over 10 at least). There just names!!!!!!!!

[Ryusaki]

There just names!!!!!!!!

Maybe in another instance* the names could be changed and the rest stay the same, but not for GX. The names are so random, so obscure and the dub has so many catchphrases that I really doubt that this will be a direct translation.

*Oh wait, there would be no other instance because Viz keep the original names. Except for this.

[JLewko]

Stop wasting your time here and get help, your sig is not even an insult anymore

On topic

As long as the Cyber D.'s and Kourimaru appear in the manga Im good.....
Why the hell would Kourimaru appear in the manga? It hasn't even showed us all of its characters yet, and we're still in Judai-backstory-land (not too bad of a place, I must say). Why would a wasted villain from a messed-up (by the CaC winners) arc be in the manga?

Never mind. He got banned again, lol.

[Snodin]

Names won't be the only thing changed.

We'll be getting our game on and Chazzin' it up as well.


Do you even read the GX manga??? Manjyome doesn't even do his original cheer... he doesn't even have the Ojamas! Why would they make them say "Chazz it up?" when there really is NO link to the anime other than most of the original cast being there.

Hell, Daito and Pharoah aren't even there. Don't expect the 7 Assassins to show up either.

[Lelouch]

Do you even read the GX manga??? Manjyome doesn't even do his original cheer... he doesn't even have the Ojamas! Why would they make them say "Chazz it up?" when there really is NO link to the anime other than most of the original cast being there.

Hell, Daito and Pharoah aren't even there. Don't expect the 7 Assassins to show up either.
If 4Kids is truly behind the scenes influencing it you can be sure the manga WILL end up a lot like the anime, because they will add in the unecessary "cool stuff yo dude" that the anime has. Expect more stuff like "laterz" and "chill man".

[Exiled]

That was the only reason I continued to buy it until I decided to drop it for good. Why dont you just buy the volumes?
It comes out slow (very slow) here. The latest volume I saw was at the end of the first match against the Doctor and his brainwashed participants

I better stop buying SJ. I have over 20 editions and my closet space is piling up

[`Phenom]

Do you even read the GX manga??? Manjyome doesn't even do his original cheer... he doesn't even have the Ojamas! Why would they make them say "Chazz it up?" when there really is NO link to the anime other than most of the original cast being there.

Hell, Daito and Pharoah aren't even there. Don't expect the 7 Assassins to show up either.
Believe me, they will find a way.....=(

[Eyesh]

We'll be getting our game on and Chazzin' it up as well.
Right now, I'm just imagining Horoko's sig on Janime. After all, "I don't need to get my game on because it's already got!! Boo-yah!!"

I hope this is a fluke. I WON'T believe this until I see hard evidence. It's just so... crappy. And after they brought Rishid in too...

[Asuka Tenjoin]

Do you even read the GX manga??? Manjyome doesn't even do his original cheer... he doesn't even have the Ojamas! Why would they make them say "Chazz it up?" when there really is NO link to the anime other than most of the original cast being there.

Hell, Daito and Pharoah aren't even there. Don't expect the 7 Assassins to show up either.

The same reason they would call him Chazz when they didn't have to; to maintain continuity with the poor choices made by 4Kids. If they didn't intend to maintain the habits and embarrassing traits of the dub, they probably wouldn't feel it necessary to keep their names. Games will be gotten, Chazzes will point in an upwards direction, and Bastions will Great Scott.

And the last chance for some vestige of pure GX outside of Japan will be extinguished as Alexis argues with "Buffy" over who will be the next chill "Academy Idol." :(

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

I'm so angry right now, I can't stand it. Oh well, at least we get a free Victory Dragon next month, and more Gin Tama (Gonna have to reread the first chapter).

EDIT: Mister Tewart, if your reading, please influence Viz here, and get us the original names.

[Familiar Stranger]

Crap!! In my issue 48 of Shônen JUMP NA, the characters of the GX Manga were revealed to be called by their dub names.

I wonder if it was because UDE has been advertising those stupid names so much.
As with the original Yu-Gi-Oh!, UDE has nothing to do with the character names, in any medium.

Shueisha, the publisher of Shonen Jump Magazine, is a half-owner of VIZ Media. The other half-owner is Shueisha's parent company, Shogakukan.

The original Yu-Gi-Oh! manga was targeted at the 15- to 18-year old high school market, which audience was reflected in the ages of all of the central characters which whom the readership was expected to identity. The target audience was decided long before the Magic & Wizards card game was introduced. Takahashi originally envisioned it as the equivalent of Magic: The Gathering, again reflecting that target audience.

The spinoff Duel Monsters video game/OCG franchise was developed to compete with Pokémon and its success made it problematic, as the target audience for that game was significantly younger. That's why the exported Yu-Gi-Oh! anime is so much less "adult" than the domestic Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters anime.

In any case, Shueisha decided to market the translated manga to the same target audience as the original manga, but that proved more and more difficult over time as parents became aware of the difference in the content of translated manga versus the exported anime.

Meanwhile, following the end of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! manga and Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters anime, Shueisha decided to lower the age of the target audience for the Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monster GX anime to match that of the exported Yu-Gi-Oh! anime.

Whereas the anime followed the manga in the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series, the manga follows the anime in the GX series. Accordingly, the target audience for the GX manga is correspondingly lower and the translations has been simplified to the same degree.

[Horoko]

As with the original Yu-Gi-Oh!, UDE has nothing to do with the character names, in any medium.
I think he meant that it was because of 4Kids/UDE/Konami/[Insert Company Here] using the names so frequently on their products that they probably decided to use those because more of the public would "recongnize" them better.

They've done similar with Beyblade, Detective Conan, and Gash Bell. (Well, Gash Bell was their property-owned dub to begin with...and they already gave the 10-finger special on that one already.)

[Asuka Tenjoin]

I think he meant that it was because of 4Kids/UDE/Konami/[Insert Company Here] using the names so frequently on their products that they probably decided to use those because more of the public would "recongnize" them better.

They've done similar with Beyblade, Detective Conan, and Gash Bell. (Well, Gash Bell was their property-owned dub to begin with...and they already gave the 10-finger special on that one already.)

Isn't that the excuse they used for continuing to name Osiris after the name of a corporate employee with an ego problem?

[Horoko]

Your guess is as good as mine. (This wouldn't be the first time they've done something illogical. Go, Vegerot!)

[Zalde]

Seriously, someone needs to go kick VIZ where it hurts; the nose.

I don't want "Hey Jaden, I totally got punk'd in that duel! Lol!"

[Johnny Five]

The characters could be Tom, "Richard" (the D-name counts as a swear word here I see) and Harry for all I care. I just hope that the translation isn't as sloppy as Battle City (but then again....)

[Ryusaki]

That's some pretty interesting stuff, Stranger. I didn't realise that it was because of the dub that GX is so toned down from the original anime. I guess we now explain why GX monsters explode harmlessly when they die.

I guess the moral of the story is, if you like Yu-Gi-Oh anime/manga and can't speak Japanese, you'll get screwed over in the end.

I just hope that the translation isn't as sloppy as Battle City (but then again....)The translation won't be sloppy. It just won't be a translation. It'll be a rad-lation, a cool-ation, a slang-ation and perhaps even a bling-ation.

I see now why they didn't do R. Has anyone looked at R's thought balloons lately? The text flows out of them like nobody's business. Editing it would be a nightmare. I mean, Millennium World gets pretty bad at this come Yugi V Bakura (I have no idea how their editors will handle it) but R is something else. There'd be white paint and text boxes covering every page.

[ultima kamehameha]

dispite the little fiasco. when does the gx manga come out?

[JLewko]

Right now, I'm just imagining Horoko's sig on Janime. After all, "I don't need to get my game on because it's already got!! Boo-yah!!"

I hope this is a fluke. I WON'T believe this until I see hard evidence. It's just so... crappy. And after they brought Rishid in too...
What'd they do to Rishid? Does it involve vol. 18 or something?

[DarknessFubuki43]

Just who do you think you are?

Because you are surely not as important as you may think, running around here and randomly insulting users who have been here far longer then yourself.

And who the **** do you think you are to put down my good friend kaiser just because he wasnt here for a long duration of time?

[JLewko]

And who the **** do you think you are to put down my good friend kaiser just because he wasnt here for a long duration of time?
Um...he was here a LOT longer than Kaiser was. And he's actually a respected member.

[DarknessFubuki43]

I dont give a **** If that dude wants to say something to Kaiser then let him say it himself than some kissass defending him

[JLewko]

I dont give a **** If that dude wants to say something to Kaiser then let him say it himself than some kissass defending him
Funny...you call me a kissass, yet you're the one getting all pissed off because your friend was flamed...

[DarknessFubuki43]

Ok thats something But I wasnt talking about you I was talking about G3-0R-G3

[Eyesh]

What'd they do to Rishid? Does it involve vol. 18 or something?
Unlike MARIK, Rishid kept his JAPANESE name. No Odion, but Rishid.

If they could only keep it like that for the GX Manga... So do we have any links to evidence yet??

[JLewko]

Unlike MARIK, Rishid kept his JAPANESE name. No Odion, but Rishid.

If they could only keep it like that for the GX Manga... So do we have any links to evidence yet??
Oh, thought you meant they did something bad to him in the English version. Good thing they didn't; his "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!" when negating Scapgoat cemented him as the awesomest scripture-faced Egyptian guy ever.

[Ryusaki]

If they could only keep it like that for the GX Manga... So do we have any links to evidence yet??

Yes, I'd be very grateful if someone could get up a scan so that I could have a look for myself and see the context.

[Familiar Stranger]

Isn't that the excuse they used for continuing to name Osiris after the name of a corporate employee with an ego problem? It wasn't a "corporate employee" of 4Kids Entertainment, it was the 4Kids executive producer of the English version of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime.

And there was no "ego problem" involved because, as I tried to explain, all of the decisions as to what to name the English versions of both the characters and the cards are dictated by Japanese executives at Konami Digital Entertainment (KDE).

Those executives decided to honor Roger Slifer, the man most responsible for making the English version of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime a reality, by naming the most powerful monster in the manga/anime after him.

They also decided to name monsters in honor of his two executive co-producers, Larry Goldfine and Michelle Dunn: Great Mammoth of Goldfine (seen briefly Episode 79, used by Bonz against Bakura) and Rose Specter of Dunn (seen only in video games).

Additional Comment:
If 4Kids is truly behind the scenes influencing it you can be sure the manga WILL end up a lot like the anime, because they will add in the unecessary "cool stuff yo dude" that the anime has. Expect more stuff like "laterz" and "chill man". 4Kids has nothing to do with this.

Neither does UDE.

Neither does Konami.

Shueisha/VIZ is solely responsible for the content of Shonen Jump Magazine and the manga translations.

You see this in the wide discrepency between the translations of the card names in the manga and the English versions of the cards names used in the 4Kids dub or the translations of the names of as-yet unreleased OCG cards used in the video games.

It's an entirely different crew of translators, serving different executive staffs...

[Eyesh]

Oh, thought you meant they did something bad to him in the English version. Good thing they didn't; his "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!" when negating Scapgoat cemented him as the awesomest scripture-faced Egyptian guy ever.
Yeah, I have the Sneak Peek manga with that, and it was pretty much pure awesomeness.

Scans might not be necessary, if we can find a link.

EDIT: Crap. Kudos to Mugen of Janime. (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1831/shonenjumpscangxsi7.jpg)

[KuroKarasu]

Ugh...Viz using dub names...I have lost all faith in them!

Wait, I had faith in them?

[JLewko]

EDIT: Crap. Kudos to Mugen of Janime. (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1831/shonenjumpscangxsi7.jpg)
NOOOOOOO!

Or, for you Chinese dub bootleg watchers: DO NOT WANT

Man...another piece of YGO corrupted. I wonder what'll happen to R, if we ever get it in SJ?...

[Lonely Wolf]

I dont give a **** If that dude wants to say something to Kaiser then let him say it himself than some kissass defending him
That's a flame warning for you.

[Vicman]

Honestly, I am not troubled by the dub names for GX.

GX, as a standalone manga, could not function. GX is entirely dependent on the anime for plot structure; the manga is just supplementary material for GX fans.

The original YGO manga could stand on its own feet; that's part of the reason why VIZ chose to use original names for the original manga. VIZ could successfully market the manga to American teenagers.

On the other hand, VIZ felt like it could not market the GX manga, which was aimed in Japan to a slightly younger audience anyway, to very many hardcore/older anime/manga fans, hence the naming changes.

There's a chance VIZ could still pump out an accurate manga version, though; VIZ more or less has Case Closed as accurate, ALTHOUGH the name changes, IMO, proved to be a HUGE blunder to the series. I bought one volume... but for my sister (who is indifferent to the name changes), not me!

I'm okay with editing at the magazine level, but not at the GN level for MOST series (exceptions include Medabots, Beyblade, and the like). In other words, I won't buy a Zatch Bell GN.

I would like VIZ' GX adaptation if the staff:
A. Keeps characters' personalities true to the original manga version
B. Does not change names of manga-only characters

EDIT: I found some e-mail addresses of VIZ Shonen Jump staff here: http://www.shonenjump.com/bottomlinks/howadvertise/images/shonenjump-mediakit.pdf

If you wish to contact the members, please keep your e-mails polite and civil!

Also, contact your bookstores and tell them that you are not buying certain series due to edits.

[marhawkman]

It wasn't a "corporate employee" of 4Kids Entertainment, it was the 4Kids executive producer of the English version of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime.

And there was no "ego problem" involved because, as I tried to explain, all of the decisions as to what to name the English versions of both the characters and the cards are dictated by Japanese executives at Konami Digital Entertainment (KDE).

Those executives decided to honor Roger Slifer, the man most responsible for making the English version of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime a reality, by naming the most powerful monster in the manga/anime after him.

They also decided to name monsters in honor of his two executive co-producers, Larry Goldfine and Michelle Dunn: Great Mammoth of Goldfine (seen briefly Episode 79, used by Bonz against Bakura) and Rose Specter of Dunn (seen only in video games).You forgot Drdek again. :p

[Vicman]

The number one goal of all of the companies involved is to make money. If VIZ and the others believe that editing the manga to be consistent to the anime will rake in more dollars for all parties, VIZ will take such actions!

[Siefer]

The number one goal of all of the companies involved is to make money. If VIZ and the others believe that editing the manga to be consistent to the anime will rake in more dollars for all parties, VIZ will take such actions!

This is a common misconception. The #1 goal of firms is to increase their value, this may include, but isn't limited to, generating revenue.

The #1 goal of CEOs in charge of said firms however, is to make as much money for themselves as humanly possible before they are fired/leave on their own accord. Obviously, this may reflect in certain business policies considering the power/influence a CEO has (i.e. Apple's huge profit margins and Steve Jobs being one of the richest CEOs in the country isn't a coincidence).

As for the people crying about the name/localization (I wouldn't really call stuff like that translations in the traditional sense) process being used by VIZ, the cold reality is that dubbed/altered anime (but not so much manga) sell, and "faithful" variants do not. There are also the points brought up by FS. If you really want to make a difference in their policies on titles like this (it's easier to change a distributor's mind via internet complaints on a smaller-scale title), let your money do the talking and do not support the product. This more than anything else, will affect the firms.

Of course, it's kind of a moot point since it will probably meet their sales expectations regardless of what the minority do anyway...unless a large-scale mobilization condemning the changes is organized, but then you'll probably be in a direct confrontation with various interest groups (including "soccer moms") that hold far more political/economical clout than most of you at the moment, and that typically doesn't end nice.

~Siefer

[Vicman]

I was talking about them firm-wise anyway :)

This is a common misconception. The #1 goal of firms is to increase their value, this may include, but isn't limited to, generating revenue.

The #1 goal of CEOs in charge of said firms however, is to make as much money for themselves as humanly possible before they are fired/leave on their own accord. Obviously, this may reflect in certain business policies considering the power/influence a CEO has (i.e. Apple's huge profit margins and Steve Jobs being one of the richest CEOs in the country isn't a coincidence).

[Ryusaki]

Well, one thing about that scan gives me confidence: it says 'Duel King' instead of 'King of Games'. This gives me some hope.

But still, GX will be the only manga that is in Shonen Jump magazine with dub names.

[Familiar Stranger]

You forgot Drdek again. :p The actual English card name for the unreleased Volume.1 Japanese OCG card Des Foot is The Drdek. :D

And, yes, it apparently honors Matthew Drdek, a screenwriter for Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie and currently a producer on Yu-Gi-Oh! GX.

Drdek is also involved with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which may explain the degree to which urban slanguage is peppered throughout the 4Kids dub...

[marhawkman]

Hehe... So that's why.....

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

Honestly, I am not troubled by the dub names for GX.

GX, as a standalone manga, could not function. GX is entirely dependent on the anime for plot structure; the manga is just supplementary material for GX fans.

The original YGO manga could stand on its own feet; that's part of the reason why VIZ chose to use original names for the original manga. VIZ could successfully market the manga to American teenagers.

On the other hand, VIZ felt like it could not market the GX manga, which was aimed in Japan to a slightly younger audience anyway, to very many hardcore/older anime/manga fans, hence the naming changes.

There's a chance VIZ could still pump out an accurate manga version, though; VIZ more or less has Case Closed as accurate, ALTHOUGH the name changes, IMO, proved to be a HUGE blunder to the series. I bought one volume... but for my sister (who is indifferent to the name changes), not me!

I'm okay with editing at the magazine level, but not at the GN level for MOST series (exceptions include Medabots, Beyblade, and the like). In other words, I won't buy a Zatch Bell GN.

I would like VIZ' GX adaptation if the staff:
A. Keeps characters' personalities true to the original manga version
B. Does not change names of manga-only characters

EDIT: I found some e-mail addresses of VIZ Shonen Jump staff here: http://www.shonenjump.com/bottomlinks/howadvertise/images/shonenjump-mediakit.pdf

If you wish to contact the members, please keep your e-mails polite and civil!

Also, contact your bookstores and tell them that you are not buying certain series due to edits.

I am not too sure about that. I'm pretty sure-considering Kaz-sensei works on the comic--that the series is for the very same age group as Kaz's comic. After all, it's Shônen, and I do remember something about Jūdai's name meaning 'teenager'. To say the Manga is to 'push the Animé' is rather insulting. It's author has created a much stronger vision of the GX name then the Animé has.

[Warakia]

Hehe... So that's why.....
So an eyeball with a chicken foot is to blame?

The Drdek...you are going down, Justi-Break powered or not!

[Vicman]

Just because the same author makes a given series doesn't mean that the author is aiming the series at the same audience; Roald Dahl wrote books for a variety of audiences.

Also, Takahashi absolutely understands that the manga is supposed to be an extension of the anime, and therefore cannot be radically different from the TV anime.

I am not too sure about that. I'm pretty sure-considering Kaz-sensei works on the comic--that the series is for the very same age group as Kaz's comic. After all, it's Shônen, and I do remember something about Jūdai's name meaning 'teenager'. To say the Manga is to 'push the Animé' is rather insulting. It's author has created a much stronger vision of the GX name then the Animé has.

[Sexerific Mugen]

I've gotten over it, with ease. Same with Zoro on One Piece. I just read the dub names as the Japanese names.

[Ryusaki]

I've gotten over it, with ease. Same with Zoro on One Piece.

With one 1-letter change, One Piece had it easy XD

[DarknessFubuki43]

Ay forget it already. Viz is like 4kids' brother you should of seen it coming.

If you want to take your anger out on something take it out on the rancid bum speaking gibberish on the corner with your baseball bat

[Eyesh]

Ay forget it already. Viz is like 4kids' brother you should of seen it coming.
Viz seems like my friend right now: he COULD'VE been a genius, but he was hit on the head by his older brother one time too many. True story btw.

I'll probably still buy the Graphic Novel though. Who know what suprises will be in there... :D

[JLewko]

So an eyeball with a chicken foot is to blame?

The Drdek...you are going down, Justi-Break powered or not!
I personally have my beliefs...that this is all a conspiracy and The Drdek is merely being used as a Scapegoat. My studies have linked this to the Great Tragedy of Gale Dogra...I think the REAL culprit here is Barox. Damn you, enraged panda-imp thing!

[Etna iCe]

I've gotten over it, with ease. Same with Zoro on One Piece. I just read the dub names as the Japanese names.

with Zoro "Zolo" and Malik "Marik" It's not really a huge change anyway. I thought L and R had the same sound in Japanese anyway.

[Ryusaki]

Yes, I think it was the fact that they changed the spelling mid-manga that annoyed One Piece fans. It's still nothing compared to this crap that GX manga's gonna get though.

[Zalde]

Mid-manga? That's dumb.

But not as ****ty as this, though.

[jaws_is_ra]

why are you all up set they used a lot of dub names in the old ones so tye shouldu se dub names in this one it just so pleole that do not know the japan names know what cards is what also there is nothing you can do to stop them they will do what htye want and no one can stop them

[Vicman]

why are you all up set they used a lot of dub names in the old ones so tye shouldu se dub names in this one it just so pleole that do not know the japan names know what cards is what also there is nothing you can do to stop them they will do what htye want and no one can stop them

I hate having to slog through poor spelling and grammar. jaws_is_ra, please don't do that again!

[Ryusaki]

He has a speling problem Vicman.

But Jaws, your logic is flawed. They don't 'owe' it to dubbies to give the characters dub names, they're supposed to be giving us a faithful translation. And I'm sure dubbies would be able to work out who's who, it even says the characters names at the beginning fo the chapters for God's sake.

[Eyesh]

And I'm sure dubbies would be able to work out who's who, it even says the characters names at the beginning fo the chapters for God's sake.
Yeah, in the opening of the original YGO, they had each person acconmpanied by a *, which said "So-and-so in the anime". After that, they just put it in the opening blurbs of people.

They could easily do that with the GX crew.

[Vicman]

Yeah, in the opening of the original YGO, they had each person acconmpanied by a *, which said "So-and-so in the anime". After that, they just put it in the opening blurbs of people.

They could easily do that with the GX crew.

They'd rather do the reverse, "so and so in the Japanese version," because the editors feel like GX will not attract enough hardcore anime fans.

[jaws_is_ra]

many be they did not get the rights to do it with the japan names this time

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

many be they did not get the rights to do it with the japan names this time

Bull. You don't need the rights to have a character's name. It's just Viz having no backbone, or rather the editor having no backbone.

Hey Ryūsaki-kun, I just got my The Prince of Tennis Volume 16: Super Combo the other day and I noticed that there was a 'b******' that slipped through uncensored so it might not actually be Yamazaki (who does translate tPoT) who is making all thesebad errors, but Jason Thompson (who is the editor, right?) that ios screwing up. Have we been blaming the wrong man??

[Ryusaki]

Hey Ryūsaki-kun, I just got my The Prince of Tennis Volume 16: Super Combo the other day and I noticed that there was a 'b******' that slipped through uncensored so it might not actually be Yamazaki (who does translate tPoT) who is making all thesebad errors, but Jason Thompson (who is the editor, right?) that ios screwing up. Have we been blaming the wrong man??

You're right. Yamazaki just does the translation and English adaption, mistakes in the final print are pretty much the fault of the editor. Sorry Joe. Hmmm. I'm pretty sure the Viz Boxes O' Doom are the fault of Touch-up Art and Lettering though.

A b****** slipped through? Impressive. But we should be glad really. They only reason Duelist gets 'crap's is because it's not in Shonen Jump. Maybe somebody could confirm this, but I haven't seen anything close to a swear word in Shonen Jump magazine for a looooong time.

[jwizzle5786]

The only good thing about this is we wont get crap from the anime because this is coming from japan, unless the writer decides to follow that story, this is what is getting me threw this bad news.

[dub_hater]

i'm not happy with this but no viz ninja are gonna break into your house steal eighty bucks and drop ten gx manga volumes there.

secret service ninjas are reserved for ude.

[Yūgi's Black Magician]

i'm not happy with this but no viz ninja are gonna break into your house steal eighty bucks and drop ten gx manga volumes there.

secret service ninjas are reserved for ude.

$8.65 (USD) times ten equals $86.50 (USD), to be exact...


Ryū-kun, a few monthes back YūYū Hakūshô slipped in a 'b******' and it's in the magizine too. Also, YGO gets to keep a few referances to hell.

[slingblade]

The last time I saw a swear which was d i c k was in Naruto (beginning)....and that was in SJ...and I was surprised.....