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torchamp
10-11-2006, 12:48 PM
when diamond comes out in th u.s. i'll be using this team. Howevr i need help wit the moves, please make sure you know the physical and special differences for each attack and its relation to the pokemon's stats.

Yonowaaru: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa477.png

adamant, ev's in hp and special defense
ability-pressure
-fire punch (for bug weakness)
-earthquake
-thunder punch/ice punch (which one do you think?)
-curse

tank up and hit hard

elikible: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa466.png

adamant, ev's in defense and ?
ability-electric engine
-thunder punch
-earthquake
-brick break
-dunno

brick break for rock and ground, thunderpunch or eq everything else

dosaidon: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa464.png

adamant, ev's in special defense and ?
ability-hardrock
-thunder fang
-luster canon
-arm hammer/eq
-stone edge

Dorapion: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa452.png

adamant, ev's in special defense and speed
ability-snipe
-crunch
-cross poison
-brick break
-scissor cross

Kaburaisu: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa445.png

adamant, ev's in sp. att and sp. def
ability-sand veil
-iron head
-dragon drive
-flamethrower
-posion stab/eq

Ramuparudo: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa409.png

adamant, ev's in defense and sp. attack
ability-unconventional
-t-bolt
-surf
-eq
-crunch

need a lot of help with him

Near
10-11-2006, 01:13 PM
Actually, Bug is far from effective against Ghost, it is actually ineffective.
I would:
Confuse Ray
Pain Split/Substitute
Will-O-Wisp
Mean Look

Or if you want that Sweeper:
Earthquake
Shadow Punch [Againt Ghosts]
Brick Break [Against Darks]
Quick Revenge/Whatever

Or Focus Puncher?
Focus Punch
Substitute
Confuse Ray
Shadow Punch/whatever

Elekible:
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Brick Break/Cross Chop
Fire Punch

Dosaidon - [Excuse me? A special attack with his 209 max SP.Attack?]
Quick Revenge/Poison Stab/Swords Dance/Shadow Claw
Stone Edge
Megahorn
Earthquake

Dorapion:
Cross Poison
Crunch/Blade Test
Earthquake/Swords Dance
Scizor Cross/Confuse Ray [If you didn't pick Blade Test for some reason]

Kaburaisu [Stupid wannabe Flygon]
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance/Poison Stab
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Ramuparudo - Sorry but yours is very.. bad.
His Sp.Attack blows, and his Attack his beyond a military base roof.
Double Headbutt
Double-Edge
Earthquake
Snow Slide/Reminiscant Headbutt/Whatever.

I have recommended Earthquake way too much,
but it's just extremely good.
100% accuracy, 100% power.
For Dosaidon/Kaburaisu, not questions, keep it.
For anything lacking STAB - you may skip it.

Questions?

Additional Comment:

Since I'm bored I'll add to this:
Yona is actually a Ghost, and Curse will work differently for him.

Brick Break is not effective against Ground.

Luster Cannon is Special, not Physical.

Dragon Drive < Dragon Claw.
20 more power, 25 less accuracy.
It's like why people use Flamethrower over Fire Blast.

You mixed many Special + Physical moves on Pokemons that are bad at special.

torchamp
10-11-2006, 02:47 PM
Actually, Bug is far from effective against Ghost, it is actually ineffective.
I would:
Confuse Ray
Pain Split/Substitute
Will-O-Wisp
Mean Look

Or if you want that Sweeper:
Earthquake
Shadow Punch [Againt Ghosts]
Brick Break [Against Darks]
Quick Revenge/Whatever

Or Focus Puncher?
Focus Punch
Substitute
Confuse Ray
Shadow Punch/whatever

Elekible:
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Brick Break/Cross Chop
Fire Punch

Dosaidon - [Excuse me? A special attack with his 209 max SP.Attack?]
Quick Revenge/Poison Stab/Swords Dance/Shadow Claw
Stone Edge
Megahorn
Earthquake

Dorapion:
Cross Poison
Crunch/Blade Test
Earthquake/Swords Dance
Scizor Cross/Confuse Ray [If you didn't pick Blade Test for some reason]

Kaburaisu [Stupid wannabe Flygon]
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance/Poison Stab
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Ramuparudo - Sorry but yours is very.. bad.
His Sp.Attack blows, and his Attack his beyond a military base roof.
Double Headbutt
Double-Edge
Earthquake
Snow Slide/Reminiscant Headbutt/Whatever.

I have recommended Earthquake way too much,
but it's just extremely good.
100% accuracy, 100% power.
For Dosaidon/Kaburaisu, not questions, keep it.
For anything lacking STAB - you may skip it.

Questions?

Additional Comment:

Since I'm bored I'll add to this:
Yona is actually a Ghost, and Curse will work differently for him.

Brick Break is not effective against Ground.

Luster Cannon is Special, not Physical.

Dragon Drive < Dragon Claw.
20 more power, 25 less accuracy.
It's like why people use Flamethrower over Fire Blast.

You mixed many Special + Physical moves on Pokemons that are bad at special.

dur, i can't believe i forgot about the different effect for ghosts, brain fart. The ramp. set was bad cause i just though of it off the top of my head. I'll test bothe dragon drive and claw and see which ends up working better. I've had fire blast save my ass quite a few times but flamethrower poved more effective in the long run so maybe the same thing'll happen here

Near
10-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Whatever, for Ramp it's quite obvious because his atatck is like, x2 his Sp.Attack, so if you aren't sure then just pick the strongest physical moves you find.

Do apply some/most/all of these changes, they are quite useful.

torchamp
10-15-2006, 10:42 AM
Whatever, for Ramp it's quite obvious because his atatck is like, x2 his Sp.Attack, so if you aren't sure then just pick the strongest physical moves you find.

Do apply some/most/all of these changes, they are quite useful.

thanks,for the fixes. What would you rate this team right now out of 10? have you gone on wi-fi, and if so how tough is the competition? What would you say the average level is (i know that eventually almost everyone will be lv.100 either from training or from sharking rare candies).

Additional Comment:
I decided to switch out ramparaudo for porygon z or jibacoil, i'm leaning towards porygon z since i alreday have an electric on my team and i don't want a third ground weakness (i know he can use electrolevitate but i'm afraid he'll be to slow to pull it off)

Yonowaaru: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/spri...a/dpmfa477.png

adamant, ev's in hp and special defense
ability-pressure
-pain split
-earthquake
-brick break
-shadow punch

elikible: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/spri...a/dpmfa466.png

adamant, ev's in defense and attack
ability-electric engine
-thunder punch
-earthquake
-brick break
-fire punch

dosaidon: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/spri...a/dpmfa464.png

adamant, ev's in special defense and attack
ability-hardrock
-thunder fang
-mega horn
-eq
-poison stab

Dorapion: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/spri...a/dpmfa452.png

adamant, ev's in special defense and speed
ability-snipe
-blade test
-cross poison
-eq
-scissor cross

Kaburaisu: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/spri...a/dpmfa445.png

adamant, ev's in sp. att and sp. def
ability-sand veil
-stone edge
-dragon drive/dragon claw (need to play test)
-eq
-posion stab

help me decide between

porygon z: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa474.png

modest, ev's in sp. att. and hp (it needs to survive)
ability-download
-tri-attack
-signal beam
-psychic
-shadow ball

or

jibacoil: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa462.png

modest, ev's in sp. att and hp
abiltiy-sturdy
-electrolevitate
-thunderbolt
-luster canon
-substitute (to give it time to electrolevitate?)

Near
10-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Ice Punch. You already have Thunderpunch & Thunderfang, but no Ice move.

PorygonZ:
Tri Attack
Scheme
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball/Recover


Dosaidon:
-Thunder Fang
+Stone Edge [STAB]

Kaburaisu is fine, however if you can get only one Stone Edge it's better off on Dosaidon.

Jibacoil -
Thunderbolt and Luster are must.
However I don't think Electro is needed.
I would perfer a
Mirror Coat
Thunderbolt
Luster
Thunderwave/Whatever

torchamp
10-16-2006, 01:30 PM
Ice Punch. You already have Thunderpunch & Thunderfang, but no Ice move.

PorygonZ:
Tri Attack
Scheme
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball/Recover


Dosaidon:
-Thunder Fang
+Stone Edge [STAB]

Kaburaisu is fine, however if you can get only one Stone Edge it's better off on Dosaidon.

Jibacoil -
Thunderbolt and Luster are must.
However I don't think Electro is needed.
I would perfer a
Mirror Coat
Thunderbolt
Luster
Thunderwave/Whatever

i'm thinking of replacin shadow ball withe psychic, i feel i need it in there somewhere, it has to cover its fighting weakness will this set be ok:
-tri attack
-ice beam
-phsychic
-scheme

so do you think i should go with jibacoil or porygon z, i want one on my team, i'm leaning towards z.

Near
10-16-2006, 07:14 PM
PorygonZ is better.
It's quite a waste not to use Recover, but it's your choice overally.

I went for Shadow Ball [altough I recommend more Recover] due to ghosts.

Psychic's okay, if you want to get rid of his weakness, I guess it's better.

Recover
Psychic
Tri Attack
Scheme/Ice Beam [if you don't want a Schemer]

torchamp
10-16-2006, 08:07 PM
PorygonZ is better.
It's quite a waste not to use Recover, but it's your choice overally.

I went for Shadow Ball [altough I recommend more Recover] due to ghosts.

Psychic's okay, if you want to get rid of his weakness, I guess it's better.

Recover
Psychic
Tri Attack
Scheme/Ice Beam [if you don't want a Schemer]

alright, i'm not found of scheme on z, he probably won't survive long enough to make it work, plus download will up one of my stats anyway. i'll go with...

porygon z
modest, ev's in hp and sp. att.
ability-download
-tri attack
-ice beam
-psychic
-recover