Look out Shinou, it's BSD's team!

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Prepare to be amazed. I've always liked to use underused Pokemon, but at the same time the ones I like. That's what I'm going for here.

But first, some things I'd like to point out. EVs', natures and hold items are my weak spot. I won't add them but if you'd help me with them, it'd be better.

Most of them have the same types, but let's look past that. It's been a long time since I've made a team, so I'm a little rusty.

But this is mainly for movesets, so let's get going!

Leafeon [470] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f5/470Leafeon.png)
Ability: Leaf Guard
- X-scissor
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Curse
Speaks for itself.

Ambipom [424] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/86/424Ambipom.png)
Ability: Technician
- Baton Pass
- Agility
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
Pwnage for Gastrodon.

Froslass [478] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a2/478Froslass.png)
Ability: Snow Cloak
- Hail
- Confuse Ray / Shadow Ball
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
Another annoyer.

Mamoswine [473] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d0/473Mamoswine.png)
Ability: Snow Cloak
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Captivate / Curse
High Attack, might as well use it. Since his Sp. Defense sucks, Entice will lower the enemy's Sp. Attack.

Misdreavus [200] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/be/200Misdreavus.png)
Ability: Levitate
- Mean Look
- Perish Song
- Confuse Ray
- Shadow Ball
Standard Misdreavus.

Gastrodon [423] (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1d/423Gastrodon-West.png)
Ability: Water Lure
- Surf
- Recover
- Mirror Coat
- Sludge Bomb
This will own thanks to Ambipom. Unsure with last move. I'd like to note that this is the East one (blue).

[Near]

Since it takes time to find them, I'll post their numbers.
Mimi - 428, Yuki - 478. Leafia 470, Manmu 473.
Toritodon - 423.

I see that you went for the Curse Leafia.
I perfer Swords simply because she has quite a good speed.

Mimi - I would pass her and pick another baton passer, I really don't like ones that don't pass attack, unless it's for some specific slow Pokemon on your team.
Maybe you can at least give her Double Team or something.. But I would personally skip her.

Yuki- [for a change, a word I actually know in Japanese]
I was thinking about Destiny Bond..
Or a Spiker.. whatever.
I would pick Ice Beam purely for power, Eeerie wind is quite weak and the chances to raise all stats are probably 10%, and Shadow Ball is nothing special, it's weaker to Ice Beam..
It's power VS Sp.Def chance..

Manmu -
As you said, superb Attack, then why Ancient Power?
Also I don't like Hail twice.. quite a waste here, too.
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Curse/Rock Climb
[I really don't like Entice because it's a luck move of some sort..]

Misdreavus - [You don't like her evolution.. huh..]

Confuse Ray
Will-o-Wisp/Curse?
Mean Look
Pain Split

Either this or yours is perfectly fine, too.

Toritodon -
Mirror Coat
Surf
Sludge Bomb
Recover

Or you can go for physical

Curse [If you don't pass on Speed]
Earthquake
Recover
Waterfall/Body Slam

Yeah some of those are weird..
I have been recommending Curse maybe too much lately..
Not sure what works and what not.

Natures -
Leafia - Adamant [+Attack -Sp.Attack. Quite an obvious choice.]
Mimi - Probably a defensive nature that drops Sp.Attack.
Yuki - A nature that drops attack for Sp.Def/Def.
[Bold and Calm I beleive]
Manmu - Adamant
Misdreavus - Again, -Attack +Either defenses, or Modest if you want for some reason.
Pick Shadow Ball.
Toritodon - Modest for special, Adamant for physical.

[Note - In game, it will be a pain to find that specific nature, so just choose any attack raising move instead of only Adamant, etc.]

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Mimi - I would pass her and pick another baton passer, I really don't like ones that don't pass attack, unless it's for some specific slow Pokemon on your team.
Maybe you can at least give her Double Team or something.. But I would personally skip her.
Who would you reccomend? Although I might not change her, since I want to have her on my team.

Yuki- [for a change, a word I actually know in Japanese]
I was thinking about Destiny Bond..
Or a Spiker.. whatever.
I would pick Ice Beam purely for power, Eeerie wind is quite weak and the chances to raise all stats are probably 10%, and Shadow Ball is nothing special, it's weaker to Ice Beam..
It's power VS Sp.Def chance..
I don't really like Destiny Bond, for some reason. But I'll go with Ice Beam.

Manmu -
As you said, superb Attack, then why Ancient Power?
Also I don't like Hail twice.. quite a waste here, too.
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Curse/Rock Climb
[I really don't like Entice because it's a luck move of some sort..]
I'll check Stone Edge and Rock Climb out.

Misdreavus - [You don't like her evolution.. huh..]

Confuse Ray
Will-o-Wisp/Curse?
Mean Look
Pain Split

Either this or yours is perfectly fine, too.
I'll stay with mine. And yes, I don't like her evo.

Toritodon -
Mirror Coat
Surf
Sludge Bomb
Recover

Or you can go for physical

Curse [If you don't pass on Speed]
Earthquake
Recover
Waterfall/Body Slam
I'll use the first one.

Thanks for the help. Will definitely use most of the fixes.

[Near]

Well, if you want a Baton Passer from the 4th gen [so we can also assume you can catch him in the game]
It will take me some time to look at those who can learn Baton Pass, so one second.

http://www.ryuunomai.com/pokemondp-movesets.txt
Buyosel
Eteboosu
Fuwaraido
Mime.Jr


Additional Comment:
Buyosel sucks.

Etebosu is very good, Agillity + Scheme
Subtitute

Fuwaraido - Eerie wind if it works..
Calm Mind.
Substitute

Mime.Jr
Substitute
Calm Mind

So Calm Mind VS Scehme + Agility.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Family Chart:

Papi
Mami
Chompy
Alexis
Amarilis
Lilianys
Amalia

Felix
Titi Lisie
Sandy
Cristy
Jasmine
Nani
Klari

Ruben
Titi Ana
Pito
Javi
Nivi

Chris
Titi Carmen
Moises
Stephanie
Salecia
Suraya
Bella
Migairo
Justin
Marielis
Tatiana
Seth

[Near]

Swords Dance for SP.Attack.

Sp Def + Sp. Attack or Sp.Attack x2.

Will work wonder with Toritodon.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Will work wonder with Toritodon.

I know. As much as I like Mimiropuu, I'll switch her out for Etebossu (not a big fan of Mime Jr. and Mr. Mime).

[Near]

Etebossu [Bold/Calm/Impish/whatever]
Substitute
Agility
Scheme
Baton Pass

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Alright, thanks for the help.

Added pics to first post. =D

[Near]

You might either do that, or pick a +Speed -Attack Nature
because that would make his speed very good. [Max - 361]
So he won't be KOed before you manage to Pass on the stats.

Something like, Sub, Agility, Agility, Scheme and pass on.
[Yeah you'll have to Sub a bit more 'cause they'll break, but whatever.
Or Agility, Scheme Scheme?

Leafia's defense = 359 and her speed = 289.. so make your choice based on that..

Additional Comment:
Also, if you aren't sure about Sludge, then try either -
Mud Bomb - May lower accuracy, and with STAB = around 90 power.
[Lame accuracy, though]
Or even Earthquake, even though your Nature will raise Sp.Attack [maybe even drop attack] it's still a base power 150.

I chose Sludge because it has 100% accuracy, is the best special move I saw, can put a status condition and has 90 power.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Nah, I'll stick with Sludge Bomb.

Anyway, this is my Pearl team so be on the lookout for my Diamond one. :p

[Near]

Haha, not like they are many teams to rate out there, though it seems it's becoming more popular [Already 4 teams]
I usually don't post teams but I might post my planned team later.

Additional Comment:
I noticed that Glion can learn Baton pass & Aglity as eggs moves [should we assume they are from the same Pokemon?]
And can also learn Swords Dance naturaly, so in case you want a physical Baton Passer instead.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Might consider him for my Diamond team. But I'll stick with Etebossu for this one.

[Near]

I seriously hate Entice, but if you use it, [you will experience later how un-useful it can be]
then make sure Manmu is a female, most people use Males from my experience.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

I seriously hate Entice, but if you use it, [you will experience later how un-useful it can be]
then make sure Manmu is a female, most people use Males from my experience.

Even if it sucks, I wanna try it out.

[[2%]]

Shouldn't you use Muumaaji instead of Misdreavus?

[Near]

Shouldn't you use Muumaaji instead of Misdreavus?
Had you read the thread, you wouldv'e saw that he prefer Misdreavus.

[[2%]]

Had you read the thread, you wouldv'e saw that he prefer Misdreavus.

Where did it say that? :confused: I must have missed it because I read the thread.

[Near]

Misdreavus - [You don't like her evolution.. huh..]


Who would you reccomend? Although I might not change her, since I want to have her on my team.


I don't really like Destiny Bond, for some reason. But I'll go with Ice Beam.


I'll check Stone Edge and Rock Climb out.


I'll stay with mine. And yes, I don't like her evo.

I'll use the first one.

Thanks for the help. Will definitely use most of the fixes.
When I say 'Read the thread' I mean every line, NOT the first post.

[[2%]]

Oh alright then.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Yup, I don't like her one bit. Maybe I'll change my mind if I like her Sugimori art.

[[2%]]

Yeah, Sugimori's good.

[torchamp]

When I say 'Read the thread' I mean every line, NOT the first post.

TC, i don't recommend entice either, it's really situatinal, and that mov slot could be used for other things.

breaker, i made some changes to my team in my thread, can you r/f

[Chaos_is_Over]

pictures please!

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

pictures please!
Pictures of what?

Additional Comment:
I feel like making another team, this time for Diamond. I'll either post it here when I'm done or make a new thread.

I guess you guys could suggest some pogeys or something.

[Near]

Create a new thread.

Suggestions:
Kabaraisu [The new Flygon] - He's really amazing.
Incredible speed and attack, kinda good defense, rest solid.
People seem to really fear him
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw

Dotaitos - He's quite good.
Leech Seed/Wood Hammer/Earthquake/Curse

Glacia - To counterpart your Leafia.
I guess you could do Ice Beam/Mirror Coat/Hidden Power [Grass/Fire]/Shadow Ball
If you can't get a good HP, you can go for Wish.

Donkarasu - Substitute/Drill Peck/Blade Test/Thunderwave
Weird.
Drill Peck
Blade Test
Featherest
Thunderwave

Calm Mind
Dark Pulse
Hidden Power {Flying/Grass}
Psychic

Or instead of HP you could try Sub.

PorygonZ -
Scheme/Agility/Thunderwave
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Recover

Weird. I don't put Thunderbolt until I see that it's needed for Skarmy.
Otherwise, Beam/Bolt/Scheme/Recover{ or thunderwave}

Overblast's a lot better for this one..

Dokurogu:
Cross Chop
Bulk Up
Taunt
Poison Stab

Cross Chop
Stone Edge
Poison Stab
Swords Dance

Whatever you can mix with all those moves.

Those are the D/P Pokemons I can think of.

Although, I recommend you a special fire type instead of Donkarasu.
x4 to Ice on two Pokemons and x2 on one is a pain.

Goukazaru:
Calm Mind
Flamethrower
Hidden Power [Fighting]/Focus Bomb
Taunt/Grass Rope [Or Hidden Power {Grass/Ice if you didn't pick HP before}

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

I'm kinda blocked right now and can't come up with anything. I'll look into your movesets tomorrow, but for now I've picked a few Pokemon I might use:

[002] Ivysaur
[091] Cloyster
[196] Espeon
[222] Corsola
[229] Houndoom
[241] Miltank
[242] Blissey
[405] Rentoraa
[445] Kaburaisu
[450] Kabarudon
[454] Dokurogu
[471] Glacia
[492] Sheimi

Yes, I would like to use Ivysaur, not Venasaur. And I never use legendary Pokemon, but I'll make an exception for Sheimi since it's so cute.

[Near]

Sheimi:
Leech Seed
Seed Flare
Aromatherapy
Grasswhistle/Toxic/Psychic/Synthesis/Whatever

Glacia:
Mirror Coat
Shadow Ball
Ice Beam
Roar/Wish

Dokurogu:
Cross Chop
Taunt
Bulk Up/Swords Dance
Scizor Cross/Poison Stab/Stone Edge

Kabarudon:
Curse
Slack Off
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Kaburaisu:
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Fire Blast/Dragon Claw

Rentora:
Thunderwave
Spark
Crunch
Ice Fang

Blissey:
Aromatherapy/Ice Beam [Put Ice Beam over therapy only if you already got a Therapist, and even then it's debatable]
Thunderwave
Seismic toss
Softboiled

OR [tech]
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Thunderwave
Soft Boiled

Miltank:
Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Body Slam/Return
Earthquake/Thunderwave

Houndoom:
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower
Scheme
Sludge Bomb/Roar/Will-o-Wisp

Corsola:
Recover/Aqua Ring
Surf
Ancient Power
Calm Mind/Mirror Coat

Espeon:
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball/Baton Pass
Morning Sun/Wish

Cloyster:
Spikes
Explosion/Rapid Spin
Poison Spikes [Assuming you can combo both.. otherwise I guess you could drop the regular one]
Ice Beam

Ivysaur:
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb
Energy Ball

Ivysaur 2:
Curse/Swords Dance/Whatever
Leaf Storm
Razor Leaf/Bullet Seed
Leech Seed

I didn't recommend Hidden Power anywhere because I guess it's not for Netbattle.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Damn, Breaker. Thanks a bunch.

I'm pretty sure Miltank and Cloyster will be on the new team.

[Blue Sea Dragoon]

Updated with erm... the new names. <_<

[Near]

Does Sand drops Synthesis to 25%?
I'm pretty sure it does. May want to consider Ace for heracross.

Mamoswine, I hate Entice.
Now here is something I truly missed.
-Ice Fang
+Ice Pebble
-Entice
+Snow Slide [he has 80 speed.. meh]
Or curse/roar.

Froslass:
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Thunderbolt
Ice beam

Confuse Ray is good, too, but I prefer a sweeper and Bond.
Kinda Gengar-ish, only Gengar's better..

Gastrogon:
May want to remove Coat considering he's a sweeper.
Ice Beam instead. Sludge < Beam, too..