Ludicolo Help

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

I don't usually make teams and what-not...so I need some help.

I want to make a Ludicolo Annoyer for a team, but I am not very adept at making teams like this. This is what I was thinking...any help would be great without sarcasm...

Ludicolo @ ???(don't have a hold but was think of Leftovers)
Rain Dish
Calm/Bold(I have a bold nature already)
252 Hp 126 Def 126 Sp. Def 6 Spd
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Protect
- Ice Beam

I was thinking about giving him a STAB technique but don't know if that is wise. Just need some help...thanks to all who contribute.

[-Demosthenes-]

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Rain Dish
Bold(I have a bold nature already) Bold is good for Ludicolo
252 Hp 126 Def 126 Sp. Def 6 Spd
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Protect/Toxic
- Surf


Fixes in Bold.

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Thanks, I was thinking Toxic, but when they switch out(and they will) it becomes reg. Poison...alot of people don't recommend it. Surf is a great one...thanks...dunno why I didn't think of it. Seriously...maybe it's because I don't look at the HM's when I create...lol

Thanks, much appreciated.

[Near]

I would go stay with that bold and go for
Toxic
Leech Seed
Rain Dance
Surf/Protect [rather Surf, because it is important for him to also have an attack, and with Rain Dance + STAB it can do some hard damage]

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Hmm, I am convinced...I'll get rid of Ice Beam and go with Surf...when I think about it...it IS kind of obvious.

Any other tips would be appreciated as well...

Any EV help? Or am I good for now?

[-Demosthenes-]

Hmm, I am convinced...I'll get rid of Ice Beam and go with Surf...when I think about it...it IS kind of obvious.

Any other tips would be appreciated as well...

Any EV help? Or am I good for now?

Your EVs look fine, except I'm not sure about the 6 for speed...maybe give those to Special Attack?

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Hmm, I'll consider it...thanks

[-Demosthenes-]

My reasoning is that Ludicolo in't very fast to begin with, and it does have a special move so wouldn't it make sense to plug those last 6 EVs into Sp. Attack?
Not that 6 EVs will really make a difference, but still...

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Too true my friend. Too true.

I will take advantage of your help and see what happens. Thanks alot...still looking for more help if people feel the need...I can always use a completely diff. Ludicolo.

Also, look for more Threads by me soon hopefully. I have tons of pokemon I wish to experiment with, and most not as far as Ludicolo was when I posted.

[Near]

Those 6 EVs will barely change anything, so put them in whatever you want, it doesn't matter. [Defense/Sp.Def/Sp.Attack, doesn't matter]

[-Demosthenes-]

Too true my friend. Too true.

I will take advantage of your help and see what happens. Thanks alot...still looking for more help if people feel the need...I can always use a completely diff. Ludicolo.

Also, look for more Threads by me soon hopefully. I have tons of pokemon I wish to experiment with, and most not so far as Ludicolo was when I posted.

Here's another Ludicolo moveset, if you're interested:
Bold@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP, 96 Sp.Def, 96 Def, 66 Speed
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf/Hydro Pump
HP Grass (if you can) or Leech Seed

The basic special sweeper set for Ludicolo

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Hmm, That seems alright...I am assuming that we use Swift Swim instead of Rain Dish for his Power...and why Leech Seed if I can't get HP Grass(I most likely won't try)...why not another sweeping move? Just curious...

I DO like the set though...I will write that down.

[Near]

Another thing you can try is Giga Drain instead of HP Grass, or maybe even try this:
Ludicolo@Leftovers
Leech Seed
Rain Dance
Giga Drain
Surf

Some weird HP absorber yet not an annoyer.. more like, sweeping?

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

Hmm, maybe, but it's still annoying especially if you have Rain Dish...you heal from Giga, Rain Dish, Leftovers, and Seeding...annoying as hell.

he he he...I think I have a new best friend. :D

[-Demosthenes-]

Hmm, maybe, but it's still annoying especially if you have Rain Dish...you heal from Giga, Rain Dish, Leftovers, and Seeding...annoying as hell.

he he he...I think I have a new best friend. :D

Yeah...Ludicolo is a pain to see pop up in the Battle Tower. Especially if its the rain dish set. Very annoying.